Crystal S., Haleigh's mother #6

[MADJGNLAW]

There should be more than ample evidence to support an emergency order of protection filing on behalf of Jr. Hopefully, this is being done already. No one doing their job properly could fail to see that the environment at GGM Sykes is volatile and unsafe for a four year old.

As sad as it is, Jr. will not have any protection from the State of Florida "IMO". They did an investigation and still left this child with Ron. I am not picking sides because I don't know what all goes on behind closed doors, but if I had to pick sides I would pick the door that does not open up to violence and drugs. I pray that Crystal has her act together, I know some complain she is not working and that may be her right to do so having her mother and family help her out. We don't know when or why not she worked and we don't know if her and Ron had a different agreement on the Child Support matter either. He could of been taking it as cash to get more food stamps and Medicaid eligibility. We just don't know.

What we do know is that Haleigh is still missing and Jr. is living in a dangerous environment and the Law already gave up on both "IMO".

It is going to take something bad to happen to Jr. before DFS steeps back in and then it will probably be to late. I pray I am wrong!

Look at the mother/father that fractured her son's head and then DFS gave the son back now a year later he is dead. It is heartbreaking knowing that there is nothing anyone can do to save these precious children.:furious:

 

[Flossie JMO]

Have you ever been in Crystal's home to determine what the environment is with Chad and the other children? I have asked repeatedly without anyone being able to give an answer to the sleeping arrangements at her house for Haleigh and Rj plus what the relationship was like between Chad and the children. We don't know.

It is not a disgrace, imo, for a judge to have given custody to Ronald when she has not been willing to find or keep a job to support her children all these years. She has not been an example of the perfect parent, imo. She took Rj on national television against the wishes of LE and his father to put him through all that trauma without consulting a therapist or anyone else, imo.

We have seen many things from her side of the custody war which included horrendous lies and deceit, imo. A judge would certainly have to look at those things before granting her custody, imo.

I think that, and several things would come up imo, driving with her child after seizures, the last time we know of that LE was on their property crack was found, her partner/step brother's drug bust, there are so many other things that I can't believe a judge would award her custody, even if she did want it. JMO

 

[Tom'sGirl]

Again, another thread will be closed if posts can't be respectful.

 

[Whisperer]

Have you ever been in Crystal's home to determine what the environment is with Chad and the other children? I have asked repeatedly without anyone being able to give an answer to the sleeping arrangements at her house for Haleigh and Rj plus what the relationship was like between Chad and the children. We don't know.

It is not a disgrace, imo, for a judge to have given custody to Ronald when she has not been willing to find or keep a job to support her children all these years. She has not been an example of the perfect parent, imo. She took Rj on national television against the wishes of LE and his father to put him through all that trauma without consulting a therapist or anyone else, imo.

We have seen many things from her side of the custody war which included horrendous lies and deceit, imo. A judge would certainly have to look at those things before granting her custody, imo.

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Any sleeping arrangements Crystal has, has got to be an improvement over what he has had, considering he was with his sister and she got stolen (?)

Why does Crystal have to work? She has four children to care for now. And a man who can provide for them.

If I were to say that Misty should be working, I guess you would say she doesn't have to because she has JR to watch....Well, we know how that turned out. Perhaps work for her would be better for JR.. She is now married to a husband who doesn't work...um..this is that same person who has been deemed to be a good provider?

Crystal did what she thought at the time on TV was the best decision at THAT moment. If you would like to compare that decision with RC marrying a minor and going to NY to get a big payoff on the "The Today Show" to CS putting JR on camera, you would lose. RC has shown much worse as far as poor judgment ...the main one resulting in the lose of their little girl.

 

[Whisperer]

Excuse me....but what trauma did Jr incur being on the camera with Crystal?

You want to compare that with a different home every few months, a strict disciplinarian with a short fuse? He and Haleigh were left night and day 24/7 with 16 yrs olds with a poor history of being an abused child herself. And now we have seen how the man handles stress, of course most of us have known all along, he is a walking time bomb.

There is no comparison between Crystal and Jr with GR on TV with what RC has exposed that poor child to over the years.

 

[debs]

Have you ever been in Crystal's home to determine what the environment is with Chad and the other children? I have asked repeatedly without anyone being able to give an answer to the sleeping arrangements at her house for Haleigh and Rj plus what the relationship was like between Chad and the children. We don't know.

Their home is not raising red flags by DCF or the public. If there were a problem with the relationship between Chad and Crystal, I am sure you'd be the first one posting about it. There have been no hints of discord in their life. During the investigation into abuse allegations, not only the home of the accused is investigated. The home of the acuser is, as well. Those allegations were brought forward by Crystal and her attorney, with signed affidavits by OTHER PEOPLE. I feel comfortable thinking that DCF found no cause for alarm at Crystal's home.

It is not a disgrace, imo, for a judge to have given custody to Ronald when she has not been willing to find or keep a job to support her children all these years. She has not been an example of the perfect parent, imo. She took Rj on national television against the wishes of LE and his father to put him through all that trauma without consulting a therapist or anyone else, imo.

Looking at the present, I have seen nothing that states that Crystal has fallen behind on her child support payments. If the courts are satisfied that she has kept current, that is good enough for me. My aunt never worked a day in her life, raised 8 children, and was never in any way considered less for having done so. I think no less of Crystal for staying home and caring for the family she has. It's a tough job, unpaid (current research states that a stay-at-home-mom would be making over 100K in the marketplace using all the skills she has to in order to keep a household running.)

We have seen many things from her side of the custody war which included horrendous lies and deceit, imo. A judge would certainly have to look at those things before granting her custody, imo.

There was no custody "war"....there was an investigation into allegations of abuse. She was right to have sought that investigation and everyone should be pleased to discover that DCF resolved the case. Is this a matter that should continue to be addressed here when DCF has actually resolved it?

However, given the events that happened two nights ago, I would have serious concerns as a mother in returning my child to an obviously heightened emotional and volatile environment. Arrests, charges, family discord, etc etc etc....people talk. It is natural. My hope is that the adults (and one teenager) in that household manage to keep things civil.

 

[Flossie JMO]

Wouldn't it be traumatic to relive the night his sister went missing (not to mention being in front of the cameras) and being forced to tell the story repeatedly to everyone (especially if he had been coached by Crystal)?! Both sides agreed he was afraid after the event. To have him go through it time after time...is not acceptable, imo. The people who are trained to work with children under those circumstances did this in a very professional and cautious manner, IMO. He should not be pushed or forced into making statements on national television, imo.

ITA and in addition basically he was shown on tv with them saying he saw who kidnapped HaLeigh. While I believe it was family, it may not be, and even if it was, who knew what lengths they would go to in order to hide their crime. She put his life in danger imo.

 

[Whisperer]

I'd much rather see JR being asked about his sister on TV (seems to bother you) than being exposed to the living style he is forced to live on a daily basis.

If AS did not stop RC, what would have happened? Looking at photos of RC, his temper is obvious or else he just enjoys scraping up his right arm and fist.

Crystal needs to have Jr for his own safety. If you don't believe she can provide it, don't you think he needs to be out of the place he is? I have a feeling I am going to regret that question, but I can always hope that I will like the response....I'm a masochist, no doubt about it.

 

[debs]

I'd much rather see JR being asked about his sister on TV (seems to bother you) than being exposed to the living style he is forced to live on a daily basis.

If AS did not stop RC, what would have happened? Looking at photos of RC, his temper is obvious or else he just enjoys scraping up his right arm and fist.

Crystal needs to have Jr for his own safety. If you don't believe she can provide it, don't you think he needs to be out of the place he is? I have a feeling I am going to regret that question, but I can always hope that I will like the response.

Before I saw the Craig R. interview (in which I saw no coaching, just asking questions and getting responses), there was the AS interview where she discussed Jr's talking about seeing the man in black. I guess it was okay for her to say it though, since Jr wasn't right there. Wait. That can't be right, since it was the discussion of the events which put him in danger, right? I get confused. So it was okay for GGMS to discuss, but wrong for Jr himself to discuss, even sitting on his mom's lap....the bigger complaint being that Crystal exposed him to..... uh, pancake makeup on Craig R. I guess. If Jr's life was in danger by discussing what he'd already told other people (like GGMS reported before this interview that seems to sit poorly with some) then I would point out that continuing to discuss that he was a potential witness puts him in just as much danger.....so why keep bringing it up?

Sadly, all we have to go on is a "time will tell" plan to work with here.

 

[cajun]

What's traumatic is for him to be without his mother and living under the conditions of a violent household and a young girl who appears to not make good life decisions either.

No, what would be traumatic is to take him from the only parent he's been with 90% of the time since he was born.

 

[Whisperer]

debs, I have seen how those "Time will tell" plans work....this isn't good, is it?

 

[debs]

debs, I have seen how those "Time will tell" plans work....this isn't good, is it?

No, my little smokin' baby friend.....it doesn't seem like it is.

 

[Whisperer]

No, what would be traumatic is to take him from the only parent he's been with 90% of the time since he was born.

Jr has spent 90% of his life w/o his mother and you think that the 90% was high quality?

According to your reasoning, you wouldn't want to take him from all the insecurities of moving from trailer to trailer every few months....must have been an adventure for JR. He lives with a man with a violent temper who prides himself on being a strict disciplinarian. His father has shown poor self control in all areas of his life. The father who has no problem resolution skills, who handles problems with his fists. Why should he leave such a place where teen girl who has enough problems to be in a place herself for safety/recovery for her own problems is the one chosen to raise and care the child? This same teen lost his sister when she was left in her charge. She also shows poor judgment and possible very serious drug behavior and life style.

Your reasoning is ...he should stay here because that is where he has been 90% of his life?

He should not be with his mother because the amount of time with is father is greater than with his mother?

....not a valid arugument!

 

[Tom'sGirl]

I have a question, is there an active Custody case going on right now?

 

[raeann]

No, what would be traumatic is to take him from the only parent he's been with 90% of the time since he was born.

Ok...this one does deal with Crystal, and although the math has been reviewed numerous times I will sum it up quickly once again.

6 weeks in the summer with Crystal
4 days a month with Crystal = 12 x 4 = 48 days = 7 weeks
1 week at Christmas

Total comes to 14 weeks plus other agreed upon time comes to about 28% of the year with Crystal leaving him with his father about 72% of the time which is nowhere NEAR 90%.
Ask any parent whether they think that when their kid gets 72% on a test that it is equal to getting 90%--I'm pretty sure they would say no way---cause at my kids school a 90% is a solid B and a 72% is a D- !!!!!!

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I have a question, is there an active Custody case going on right now?

No. No active custody case that I am aware of at all. Ronald has custody.

 

[Whisperer]

No active custody case going on, Tom's Girl....just wishful thinking and posting for it happening.

Guess we are showing our anxiety about jr and making arguments for him to be returned to Crystal, especially after the newest incident.

 

[mysticrose]

I have a question, is there an active Custody case going on right now?

To my knowledge no there is not. When the DCF investigation was done and all lawyers stepped down I believe that was also the end of any custody issues. They did though change up the visitation agreement during this time and I believe it gave more time to Crystal. I think there is a link I'll go find it.

 

[mysticrose]

No. No active custody case that I am aware of at all. Ronald has custody.

Ron and Crystal have joint custody with Ron being the "custodial parent."

 

[Tom'sGirl]

Another question, have we not had discussion on two other threads about little JR's appearance on TV and the Man in Black topic?