Crystal S., Haleigh's mother #6

[cajun]

ON that video that you base her time of arrival on, did she tell what time she arrived to the media?

I am basing when she got there by when the press arrived. The first Amber alert went out during Caylee's memorial which started at 10. No way the press was there before 10. The press was live on the air waiting for the arrival of Crystal which would have been later than 10. In fact it was like half way through the memorial when the AA went out. That is when the press would have found out about it. How long does it take to drive from Jacksonville to Satsuma?

 

[cajun]

Where are you getting that Ron said he owned anything on Rita Lane? You have a link because I don't remember seeing it? TIA

Bump for whisperer

 

[Busylady]

How do you know who scheduled the appointment. This was with a specialist it is very possible that it was scheduled when Crystal and RC were together. She choose to live a hundred miles away that isnt the childrens fault. If she can't meet her obligations with her children because she lives a 100 miles away then she needs to move closer IMO. Are we also gonna blame RC for the other appointments Crystal missed because she didnt want to get out of bed?

It isn't bad enough that RC's family has aided him all of his life but now we have RC blaming Crystal in a court of law for her not making the Dr's Appt which he or mommy scheduled for that same day as the court date. She lives 100 miles away....and you don't see the game.

 

[Whisperer]

Busy, this is getting down right ludicrous. The office worker also typed in male for Haleigh. This happens. It was not important at that moment on the report for the LE whether she works or not. The fact that you don't want to acknowledge is that she is on the report.

All this spinning is making me dizzy. If that is your goal, you are achieving it.

 

[VolLady]

It isn't bad enough that RC's family has aided him all of his life but now we have RC blaming Crystal in a court of law for her not making the Dr's Appt which he or mommy scheduled for that same day as the court date. She lives 100 miles away....and you don't see the game.

I don't think the appointment that morning was a big deal to the judge. I think it was the 12 missed appointments when she lived with the children and admitted to the judge that sometimes she didn't feel like getting out of bed that he used when he made his decision.

 

[Whisperer]

I am basing when she got there by when the press arrived. The first Amber alert went out during Caylee's memorial which started at 10. No way the press was there before 10. The press was live on the air waiting for the arrival of Crystal which would have been later than 10. In fact it was like half way through the memorial when the AA went out. That is when the press would have found out about it. How long does it take to drive from Jacksonville to Satsuma?

OMG...this is how you are basing Crystal's TOA?

I have officially entered the logic-free zone.

 

[nomoresorrow]

Problem is the "grounded in reality" story does not match Crystals own words in her interview nor Maries video about that morning.

I'll review that video Busy but in the meantime, as Misty has been generously given "room for error" in her timeline inconsistancies, I'll afford the same to Crystal and Marie. Certainly if there was anything to hide as some keep suggesting here, during the hours after learning of HaLeigh's disappearance and their arrival in Satsuma, making a statement on National television isn't really consistent with attempting to hide something . . . JMO

 

[Busylady]

There is no spinning at all by me. There is nothing that indicates Crystal was in Satsuma by 10 am. I agree it is getting ludicrous in more ways then one.

Busy, this is getting down right ludicrous. The office worker also typed in male for Haleigh. This happens. It was not important at that moment on the report for the LE whether she works or not. The fact that you don't want to acknowledge is that she is on the report.

All this spinning is making me dizzy. If that is your goal, you are achieving it.

 

[cajun]

Here is when the Amber Alert first went out. No way the press was in Satsuma before this time..

[FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL]CANS Alert Issued for 5 Year Old Florida Girl
[FONT=VERDANA,ARIAL]Posted: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 10:22 PM CT

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Which would be 11 ET and that was about half way through Caylee's Memorial. So there is no way the press was in Satuma before that time.

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[Whisperer]

Volady..we must be looking at different court papers. I am reading the court papers of 12-27-05. What are you reading?

 

[cajun]

OMG...this is how you are basing Crystal's TOA?

I have officially entered the logic-free zone.

It's truly very simple. THe local press was live in Satsuma and they were waiting on the arrival of Crystal. The rest is truly simple to figure out.

 

[cajun]

Volady..we must be looking at different court papers. I am reading the court papers of 12-27-05. What are you reading?

I am still waiting on where you saw Ron owned anything on ... Rita Lane? You posted it as fact, I would like to see the fact.

 

[atherella]

Volady..we must be looking at different court papers. I am reading the court papers of 12-27-05. What are you reading?

There are two sets of court papers online.

ETA - plus the 2nd set filed by Crystal's attorney. I am not including that.

Let me clarify - there is the transcript, and the Report of the Magistrate. Plus the Motion for Rehearing by Crystal's attorney which includes his Objection to the findings of the Magistrate.

 

[Busylady]

The thing that bothers me about the arrival in Satsuma is the different versions from Crystal and Marie. First Crystal said she thought it was a prank and people ran with that, then she stated she knew it wasnt a prank because she heard LE in the background. The story of calling Johnny to go check it out, the didnt call Johnny to go check it out, the waiting an hour to even call her mom and tell her. I just can't fathom not getting in the car right away and driving up to where my daughter was last known to be before she went missing. It doesnt take 5 hours to make arrangements in an emergency.

I'll review that video Busy but in the meantime, as Misty has been generously given "room for error" in her timeline inconsistancies, I'll afford the same to Crystal and Marie. Certainly if there was anything to hide as some keep suggesting here, during the hours after learning of HaLeigh's disappearance and their arrival in Satsuma, making a statement on National television isn't really consistent with attempting to hide something . . . JMO

 

[Flossie JMO]

IMO if Crystal cared about attending the court hearing she would of made sure she notified the court of her address change between October 2005 and November 2005. It wasn't RC's responsibility to figure out who Crystal was living with from month to month.

JMO, I don't think she cared. I imagine MG found out and freaked, and made her attend, was this the one with her jumping into the proceedings?

Sadly I think with time Ronald has come to the painful realization that he can't rely on the bio Mom when it comes to their children, for support, doctor appointments, etc. I would venture a guess that over the last couple years he has made sure to schedule all medical appointments for when their children were with him. JMO

 

[nomoresorrow]

How do you know who scheduled the appointment. This was with a specialist it is very possible that it was scheduled when Crystal and RC were together. She choose to live a hundred miles away that isnt the childrens fault. If she can't meet her obligations with her children because she lives a 100 miles away then she needs to move closer IMO. Are we also gonna blame RC for the other appointments Crystal missed because she didnt want to get out of bed?

Busy, you don't know any more than I do who scheduled an appointment or if one was even scheduled for that morning - I EXPRESSED MY OPINION on the issue, that's all. I made that clear. Your entitled to your opinion AND I'm entitled to mine. Why is it that those of you who are convinced that Crystal is guilty of HaLeigh's disappearance can spout off your opinions left and right and yet when anyone states an opinion on Ronald, Misty . . . we're demanded to provide facts and "just the facts."
JMO

 

[Whisperer]

It is getting a little too late for me to sit here and argue an entire court document and it would be fruitless anyway.

FACT: Crystal was interviewed by LE before 9:40 as report took 6 hrs to write up. You can look at the report and believe your own eyes and see her name on it or choose not to believe your eyes. While you are there, read the narrative where it states Misty told LE that both children were sleeping with her in the same bed.

Incident reports are not done by 3rd party and are based on the officer's eyes and what the witness observed. RC wouldn't talk (surprise?) so Misty gave the information for the narrative.

 

[Whisperer]

The fact of and RC stating it is on the court record. I bet Busy can fill you in.

 

[mysticrose]

It could be possible for any local press to be there, as they would have known about Haleigh before the Amber Alert even went into affect.
As for the police report and Crystal it could have been filled out shortly after LE got there and started talking to Ron, TN, Misty etc...TN or Ron could have given that info to LE about Crystal since she is Haleigh's mother , LE probally asked for it so they would have some info on file about her to notify her and other reason's I'm sure..

 

[Flossie JMO]

It's truly very simple. THe local press was live in Satsuma and they were waiting on the arrival of Crystal. The rest is truly simple to figure out.

The online article that is still available says they arrived mid-morning, however, iirc, it was closer to noon.