Crystal S., Haleigh's mother #8

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  • #541
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Well who knows? The resounding answer to me is" Crystal supposedly took a lie detectors test, not confirmed by LE by the way, just according to her, and it was sent off. :waitasec:Okay. It was sent off to washington :waitasec: Does this mean everyone who took a lie detectors test was also sent "off to Washington"? If not, why not? Why was her test only sent to Washington? Why is there no public acknowledgement of any of the test results of Crystal Sheffields polygraph tests? Why? :waitasec: Why hasn't other family members been given a lie detectors test? :waitasec: I'm looking toward LE for these answers.

The only bus driven was the Misty Lie detector bus and it was driven into the dirt. Why? :waitasec: Why haven't we heard of Crystals results? :waitasec: Did her lover take a test just like Ron's lover was given a lie detector test? :waitasec: Why don't we know? :waitasec: Why nine months into the investigation it's okay to rip Misty apart about a supposed deceptive lie detectors test, since everyone is supposedly seeking truth, why did truth just end with Misty? :waitasec: Surely truth is truth, right? :waitasec:

If I'm following you :waitasec: maybe because LE neither considers her poly results "totally unbelievable" nor would characterize Crystal's responses as "farcical?" :waitasec:

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  • #542
They would want Crystal's DNA because she is Haleigh's biological mother. Mitochondrial to establlish a baseline comparison for whatever evidence was/is found, correct?

I think the only reason CS isn't sure of her polygraph results is because she doesn't trust the polygraph process 100%; no one does, nor should they. And the media can't be trusted not to twist and spin, so she just answered the question as best she could without saying something that would come back at her later. If the machine works as well as we are all lead to believe and she told the truth, then she has nothing to worry about as far as being a suspect.

Something was going on, Crystal had her first seizure 2 days before Haleigh went missing. MC would have been with WBG and the girls. We don't know where the kids were or where Ron was, or if he was working that weekend - I assume he didn't work weekends and he stayed with his children and a Granny had them for a while too.

"Hey girl, you should see what your ex's new child GF is doing this weekend! He is going to flip out!"

"I can't believe it, he let her move right back in, like nothing happened."

I am not implying a lost love opportunity, but rather that the character of the babysitter was called into play. For whatever she is or has done, CS is not a Nay Nay or the other one or Amber and MC is not someone I would want watching my dogs, much less kids.

I wonder why CS never reported that RC was living in open concubinage with a minor while having custody of the children? This type of accusation with LE and DCF would bring lots of trouble for Ron. And a charge of sexual abuse of a minor might just put the kids back in her care and control. She didn't mention it to anyone. Why? MC was 16 when she moved in with Ron.

I suppose they played the "she don't live here, she lives down the street with her brother, she just babysits until I get home" thing with her. If she ever inquired.
 
  • #543
Somehow I'm not picturing Ron--who at one time at least insisted on a separate meeting place to exchange care of their children--throwing open the doors or openly discussing his life. Crystal lived in another town, and he could have let her know in no uncertain terms (and as I've no trouble imagining) that who he saw was none of her business. I doubt he volunteered up his gf's age either. This way he kept the upper hand and stayed in control... just the way he liked it. JMO

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  • #544
Marie was not giving a LDT, she took a VSA test and I don't know who gave it to her. I doubt PCSO uses that program or they would have given them to Ron, Crystal and Misty if that is what they used.
 
  • #545
They would want Crystal's DNA because she is Haleigh's biological mother. Mitochondrial to establlish a baseline comparison for whatever evidence was/is found, correct?

I think the only reason CS isn't sure of her polygraph results is because she doesn't trust the polygraph process 100%; no one does, nor should they. And the media can't be trusted not to twist and spin, so she just answered the question as best she could without saying something that would come back at her later. If the machine works as well as we are all lead to believe and she told the truth, then she has nothing to worry about as far as being a suspect.

Something was going on, Crystal had her first seizure 2 days before Haleigh went missing. MC would have been with WBG and the girls. We don't know where the kids were or where Ron was, or if he was working that weekend - I assume he didn't work weekends and he stayed with his children and a Granny had them for a while too.

"Hey girl, you should see what your ex's new child GF is doing this weekend! He is going to flip out!"

"I can't believe it, he let her move right back in, like nothing happened."

I am not implying a lost love opportunity, but rather that the character of the babysitter was called into play. For whatever she is or has done, CS is not a Nay Nay or the other one or Amber and MC is not someone I would want watching my dogs, much less kids.

I wonder why CS never reported that RC was living in open concubinage with a minor while having custody of the children? This type of accusation with LE and DCF would bring lots of trouble for Ron. And a charge of sexual abuse of a minor might just put the kids back in her care and control. She didn't mention it to anyone. Why? MC was 16 when she moved in with Ron.

I suppose they played the "she don't live here, she lives down the street with her brother, she just babysits until I get home" thing with her. If she ever inquired.

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DotsEyes you bring up a lot of good points. The first is Crystals response to her LTD and its results. I am not too sure if Crystal is unsure of the reliability of the test or her answers given during the test. The truth surrounding all the tests given by LE and or the FBI have not been revealed as of yet have they? The only tests we have is that of Misty's that was given by an independent and coordinated by TM.
The media is truly unreliable to present only the facts and not the embellished rumors and sensationalized lies that cloud or all together hide the facts and mislead the public. Is it not their job to investigate and present the facts to enable the public to actually be of assistance in bringing home HaLeigh or is it to just sell a paper or get a hit on their website?
I agree again with your conclusion that something was going on with Crystal 2 days prior to HaLeighs abduction. With no history of seizures in the past and the recurrences within such a short time frame and the circumstances surrounding the onset and the following episodes do beg for understanding the coincidence of this sudden condition. It has been revealed that it was caused by stress and Crystal had been advised to avoid stress. The issue of her past due child support and the timing of the pending court date in conjunction with the seizure is understandable, but, I find that the additional fact that HaLeigh was abducted soon there after gives me pause and I have to consider if Crystals stress was an accumulation of 3 years of not paying and realizing that very day she was going to be facing jail time( Was Crystal's seizure prior to receiving the court order to appear) or if it was something else that caused Crystal to stress and trigger a seizure for the first time. In my opinion the timing of each seizure is of importance to understanding the triggers that cause these stress induced seizures.
Crystal is not Nay Nay or an Amber Brooks but she is a mother of three children and with that comes responsibilities, such as protecting, providing and total involvement in your children's lives. IMO the obvious lack of this responsibility on Crystal's part is why the public has criticized her. The argument that she was not allowed or prohibited from being the children's mother holds not weight when the public considers the fact that this mother was not aware of HaLeighs school schedule and circumstances surrounding her children. I would argue that she does know these small facts and chose to play ignorant of any knowledge surrounding HaLeigh's first year in school. Crystal has stated she called Ron and wanted the children early on a school day and Ron advised her he could not allow it because HaLeigh had missed to much school already. Crystal claimed she was not aware of Haleighs absences after HaLeigh was abducted or when HaLeigh gets out of school and or off the bus, but, we have been made aware that it had been discussed prior to HaLeighs abduction with Ron about these particular facts and find it unbelievable that Ron did not state when Haleigh got out of school and got off the bus in that particular conversation.
Your last point of Crystal not reporting the relationship between Ron and Misty is possibly not the truth. It has been revealed that DCF was involved in the Cummings home (since Misty and Ron started seeing each other in Sept 08). By October Ron had been advised by DCF to move into a 3 bedroom to allow the children their own rooms. IMO DCF was made aware of the relationship and possible Misty's involvement is why DCF was called to investigate the Cumming's home in the first place. IMO the truth reveals the facts and until we can get the truth the facts will remain elusive. Not bashing Crystal, just want the truth.
 
  • #546
Are you suggesting that CS had seizures because she was planning on stealing Haleigh and this stress brought it on? If not, that is the impression I am left with.

Has anyone ever discussed RC's meds? Maybe Haleigh had them in her system due to negligence of RC and Misty? That scenario hits closer to home than Crystal's seizures two days before Haleigh went missing.

Hey, if you had to deal with RC, you may have stress also...I know I would.
 
  • #547
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DotsEyes you bring up a lot of good points. The first is Crystals response to her LTD and its results. I am not too sure if Crystal is unsure of the reliability of the test or her answers given during the test. The truth surrounding all the tests given by LE and or the FBI have not been revealed as of yet have they? The only tests we have is that of Misty's that was given by an independent and coordinated by TM.

Crystal's only response is that she took a LDT, she guesses she did okay, and the test was sent off to Washington. She has said nothing else about them.


The media is truly unreliable to present only the facts and not the embellished rumors and sensationalized lies that cloud or all together hide the facts and mislead the public. Is it not their job to investigate and present the facts to enable the public to actually be of assistance in bringing home HaLeigh or is it to just sell a paper or get a hit on their website?

I would submit that the media involved in this case cared very little about facts and often got them wrong and never bothered to correct the misinformation when it was made obvious they were wrong. I would further submit that it IS their job to investigate what they are presenting. This case has been a demonstration of how NOT to report on a missing person. From beginning until now.

I agree again with your conclusion that something was going on with Crystal 2 days prior to HaLeighs abduction. With no history of seizures in the past and the recurrences within such a short time frame and the circumstances surrounding the onset and the following episodes do beg for understanding the coincidence of this sudden condition.
It has been revealed that it was caused by stress and Crystal had been advised to avoid stress.

I do not recall that a source for the seizures has been determined, or revealed to the public. But it is common sense that a person with a seizure disorder of unknown etymology avoids stress and stressful situations. Her daughter being missing is an obviously unavoidable stressor and therefore could be considered a mitigating factor in the re-occurrence of the seizures.

The issue of her past due child support and the timing of the pending court date in conjunction with the seizure is understandable, but, I find that the additional fact that HaLeigh was abducted soon there after gives me pause and I have to consider if Crystals stress was an accumulation of 3 years of not paying and realizing that very day she was going to be facing jail time( Was Crystal's seizure prior to receiving the court order to appear) or if it was something else that caused Crystal to stress and trigger a seizure for the first time. In my opinion the timing of each seizure is of importance to understanding the triggers that cause these stress induced seizures.

Past due child support, accumulating like a spectre in the window of reality would be an obvious source of stress, and given Crystal's passive personality, an inevitable train ready to hit her on the tracks. Being served with papers, and having no means to pay a lump sum to the court for past due amounts would cause anyone's stress factor to jack into the stratosphere. I imagine that this passiveness, and the lack of paying over the years, fed into Crystal not attempting to interfere too much with the children, because she knew Ronald could at any time throw this at her and it would have been avoided at all opportunity.

Crystal is not Nay Nay or an Amber Brooks but she is a mother of three children and with that comes responsibilities, such as protecting, providing and total involvement in your children's lives. IMO the obvious lack of this responsibility on Crystal's part is why the public has criticized her.

You are right; she is neither of these other young women, and an unfair comparision, to boot. I believe Crystal understands the responsibilities of being a mother; she ignored the responsibility of child support in the monetary factor. There is no excuse, and Crystal makes none for herself. She didn't pay it and she knew it was going to bite her in the butt. I don't think, in all her ruminations and worries about how she was going to pay the funds she owed, did she imagine one of her children would disappear into the night never to be seen again. The public would rightly criticize her for her failure in the monetary sense, but we have seen NOTHING which would allow for censure in the way she loves her children. They are separate in my mind, but I can see where others will choose the totality of the responsibility of "mother" to include monetary support. I concede it is a point I can only counter by the claim of the father to be making plenty of money to have supported his children, given that he never lived alone until November of last year, and was living with the help of his mother/grandmother until then, and the children were at least both accounted for until their father chose to move in a teenaged babysitter/lover.

The argument that she was not allowed or prohibited from being the children's mother holds not weight when the public considers the fact that this mother was not aware of HaLeighs school schedule and circumstances surrounding her children. I would argue that she does know these small facts and chose to play ignorant of any knowledge surrounding HaLeigh's first year in school.

It has been presented many times that Ronald would not cooperate with Crystal regarding the children. He had the money she owed him as leverage to keep her cowed down from asserting her parental rights. No matter what one thinks of the other parent's actions, it is no reason for a parental alienation. And that is what Crystal had, except for those weekends she was allowed. Crystal doesn't need to play ignorant when she is in FACT ignorant of the child's school schedule. She admits that she is ignorant. She doesn't fake it. When asked why she doesn't know, she doesn't blame Ron; she says "I don't know." Where could she go with that answer anyway? Say "Ron alienated me and wouldnt' tell me" would just incite the very condemnation you mentioned above. Taking it on herself to say "I don't know." at least gives it to her to examine herself and say "I should have known. I could have done more. I should have." I'm sure this eats her up daily. But I don't hold it against her. With no parental alienation, there are children all over whose parents don't know when they go to, or get out of, school. Who don't know where the bus stop is. Who don't know when they get picked up by the bus, or dropped off. It doesn't make them criminally negligent in the knowledge of their children. I believe there is enough mitigating circumstance to believe that Ronald kept this information from her.

Crystal has stated she called Ron and wanted the children early on a school day and Ron advised her he could not allow it because HaLeigh had missed to much school already. Crystal claimed she was not aware of Haleighs absences after HaLeigh was abducted or when HaLeigh gets out of school and or off the bus, but, we have been made aware that it had been discussed prior to HaLeighs abduction with Ron about these particular facts and find it unbelievable that Ron did not state when Haleigh got out of school and got off the bus in that particular conversation.

Why is it unbelievable that Ronald wouldn't mention it? As we've since discovered, Ronald wouldn't let Crystal have Haleigh until 6 p.m. Friday (after school got out) and she had to be back by 6 p.m. Sunday. Ronald himself asserts that he did not let "the mother" know where he lived. They met at a drop off point. I see one parent at the mercy of the other parent's whims. Crystal had every right to call the school and ask about her daughter's progress; I don't believe she felt she could without causing problems. While that is passive and an affront to many here, that is a reality for a lot of women who choose the lesser of two evils to keep the peace. It is the hallmark of an abusive relationship. Whether they were together or no, it was still one of power and passivity.

Your last point of Crystal not reporting the relationship between Ron and Misty is possibly not the truth. It has been revealed that DCF was involved in the Cummings home (since Misty and Ron started seeing each other in Sept 08). By October Ron had been advised by DCF to move into a 3 bedroom to allow the children their own rooms. IMO DCF was made aware of the relationship and possible Misty's involvement is why DCF was called to investigate the Cumming's home in the first place. IMO the truth reveals the facts and until we can get the truth the facts will remain elusive. Not bashing Crystal, just want the truth.

There is no documentation that DCF was at the home while Ronald and Misty were together; only that DCF had been called to the home before. If I am wrong, I would surely appreciate the link which shows me. As far as I know, the only source for moving into the 3 bedroom home was a member here who claims to know Ronald personally. If DCF found it acceptable to have an underage sexual partner/babysitter, I'll eat my hat and consider all children in the State of Florida at risk, including the 16 year old underage sex partner/babysitter.
 
  • #548
I thought DCF was called (but don't know by whom, and this could be rumor, i have nothing to back me up but my memory) before HaLeigh went missing, b/c HaLeigh had Ecoli, or something similiar. I am just putting in my 2 cents :)
 
  • #549
If I were CS and found out a 16 yr old was there, I would have turned RC in.

When she did get word after Haleigh disappears, she notifies DCF of abuse based on what was heard during the investigation of Haleigh. RC knew DCF was gonna come a knocking....he up and marries Misty. Problem solved.

Now, when DCF is gonna come back and take a look at the situation after Aug. 6 with RC's arrest, he has Misty file a RO on her brother. It was not RC's fault see! It was Tommy Croslin's aggressive behavior.

IMO, DCF should challange that and wonder if JR could be in danger due to Misty's relatives. RC is already thinking ahead....no worry. Get rid of Misty; problem solved. He is now almost home as far as keeping JR. All he has to do is disprove he was suicidal or homicidal about the gun and it is over. He keeps JR, which has been his motivator throughout this story. Everything that has been said by him about the Haleigh story must not cast any bad light on him. He married Misty for Haleigh. He got in a fight for Misty and to protect his family and he divorced Misty to protect JR...is what he will claim.

Crystal has been dealing with him for years now; she is/was intimidated and knows what he can do. It is useless to go up against him in court; His assistance with legal help and the number of attorneys he has employed in his life is staggering. One day his luck will run out; it usually does with people who behave badly.
 
  • #550
deb and whisp, THANKS is not enough lol, THANKS for not only saying it SO much better than I ever could but for sparing me hours of trying lol and undoubtedly a mini vacay.

ITA :clap: :bowdown:


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  • #551
I thought DCF was called (but don't know by whom, and this could be rumor, i have nothing to back me up but my memory) before HaLeigh went missing, b/c HaLeigh had Ecoli, or something similiar. I am just putting in my 2 cents :)
The Ecoli incident happened in November after the move to Green Lane.
 
  • #552
Crystal's only response is that she took a LDT, she guesses she did okay, and the test was sent off to Washington. She has said nothing else about them.

BBM IMO she had nothing to fear or be unsure of if she was innocent.


I would submit that the media involved in this case cared very little about facts and often got them wrong and never bothered to correct the misinformation when it was made obvious they were wrong. I would further submit that it IS their job to investigate what they are presenting. This case has been a demonstration of how NOT to report on a missing person. From beginning until now.



I do not recall that a source for the seizures has been determined, or revealed to the public. But it is common sense that a person with a seizure disorder of unknown etymology avoids stress and stressful situations. Her daughter being missing is an obviously unavoidable stressor and therefore could be considered a mitigating factor in the re-occurrence of the seizures.

Kim Picazio assured us on Nancy Grace it was stress induced and Crystal also stated in her interview with TJ Hart at HBH it was because of stress. I would also assume that she would of had a few seizures after beging told Haleigh was found to be missing from her bed at 3 am in the morning and not over a month later.

Past due child support, accumulating like a spectre in the window of reality would be an obvious source of stress, and given Crystal's passive personality, an inevitable train ready to hit her on the tracks. Being served with papers, and having no means to pay a lump sum to the court for past due amounts would cause anyone's stress factor to jack into the stratosphere. I imagine that this passiveness, and the lack of paying over the years, fed into Crystal not attempting to interfere too much with the children, because she knew Ronald could at any time throw this at her and it would have been avoided at all opportunity.


Debs please take note of when Crystal recieved the notice for the hearing and her seizure. I believe it was something else that caused her first seizure. No excuse is good enough IMO for a parent not to pay child support. The child is the one that suffers!
You are right; she is neither of these other young women, and an unfair comparision, to boot. I believe Crystal understands the responsibilities of being a mother; she ignored the responsibility of child support in the monetary factor. There is no excuse, and Crystal makes none for herself. She didn't pay it and she knew it was going to bite her in the butt. I don't think, in all her ruminations and worries about how she was going to pay the funds she owed, did she imagine one of her children would disappear into the night never to be seen again. The public would rightly criticize her for her failure in the monetary sense, but we have seen NOTHING which would allow for censure in the way she loves her children. They are separate in my mind, but I can see where others will choose the totality of the responsibility of "mother" to include monetary support. I concede it is a point I can only counter by the claim of the father to be making plenty of money to have supported his children, given that he never lived alone until November of last year, and was living with the help of his mother/grandmother until then, and the children were at least both accounted for until their father chose to move in a teenaged babysitter/lover.

It takes a support system in place within ones family to raise children in a single parent home expecially if the other non custodial parent lives so far away.

It has been presented many times that Ronald would not cooperate with Crystal regarding the children. He had the money she owed him as leverage to keep her cowed down from asserting her parental rights. No matter what one thinks of the other parent's actions, it is no reason for a parental alienation. And that is what Crystal had, except for those weekends she was allowed. Crystal doesn't need to play ignorant when she is in FACT ignorant of the child's school schedule. She admits that she is ignorant. She doesn't fake it. When asked why she doesn't know, she doesn't blame Ron; she says "I don't know." Where could she go with that answer anyway? Say "Ron alienated me and wouldnt' tell me" would just incite the very condemnation you mentioned above. Taking it on herself to say "I don't know." at least gives it to her to examine herself and say "I should have known. I could have done more. I should have." I'm sure this eats her up daily. But I don't hold it against her. With no parental alienation, there are children all over whose parents don't know when they go to, or get out of, school. Who don't know where the bus stop is. Who don't know when they get picked up by the bus, or dropped off. It doesn't make them criminally negligent in the knowledge of their children. I believe there is enough mitigating circumstance to believe that Ronald kept this information from her.

BBM I still have yet to understand how Crystal was alienated from her children when she had the children every other weekend and had the right to call the school and get information. Her rights where not taken away, the court order was just followed to the letter IMO. Big diference.



Why is it unbelievable that Ronald wouldn't mention it? As we've since discovered, Ronald wouldn't let Crystal have Haleigh until 6 p.m. Friday (after school got out) and she had to be back by 6 p.m. Sunday. Ronald himself asserts that he did not let "the mother" know where he lived. They met at a drop off point. I see one parent at the mercy of the other parent's whims. Crystal had every right to call the school and ask about her daughter's progress; I don't believe she felt she could without causing problems. While that is passive and an affront to many here, that is a reality for a lot of women who choose the lesser of two evils to keep the peace. It is the hallmark of an abusive relationship. Whether they were together or no, it was still one of power and passivity.

BS excuses if that is her opinion and why she chose not to be a activly involved parent.

There is no documentation that DCF was at the home while Ronald and Misty were together; only that DCF had been called to the home before. If I am wrong, I would surely appreciate the link which shows me. As far as I know, the only source for moving into the 3 bedroom home was a member here who claims to know Ronald personally. If DCF found it acceptable to have an underage sexual partner/babysitter, I'll eat my hat and consider all children in the State of Florida at risk, including the 16 year old underage sex partner/babysitter.
I will be glad to sleuth that out for you when I get back from hunting for 5 straight days and have the time.
 
  • #553
Please correct me if I'm mistaken, but it's been my understanding that Crystal's fiancee is not a blood relative, that her mother and his father married after these two were GROWN. Seems to me this would make them step-siblings AT BEST, and I even hesitate to use that term when it applies to adults. Marie Griffis married Chad's father in 2002 - that would have made Crystal 16 years old, Chad 22 years old. If they were not raised in the same household as children, and they are not blood relatives, they would have none of the normal bonds one would expect to see with siblings.

Characterizing them as half-siblings seems incorrect.

JMO...

(sorry, chicoliving, for the broken post; I'd have fixed it myself if I could've figured out how! still trying to figure out how to navigate...)
 
  • #554
Please correct me if I'm mistaken, but it's been my understanding that Crystal's fiancee is not a blood relative, that her mother and his father married after these two were GROWN. Seems to me this would make them step-siblings AT BEST, and I even hesitate to use that term when it applies to adults. Marie Griffis married Chad's father in 2002 - that would have made Crystal 16 years old, Chad 22 years old. If they were not raised in the same household as children, and they are not blood relatives, they would have none of the normal bonds one would expect to see with siblings.
Characterizing them as half-siblings seems incorrect.

JMO...

(sorry, chicoliving, for the broken post; I'd have fixed it myself if I could've figured out how! still trying to figure out how to navigate...)

Leslie you are so correct and I will correct my error.
 
  • #555
Please correct me if I'm mistaken, but it's been my understanding that Crystal's fiancee is not a blood relative, that her mother and his father married after these two were GROWN. Seems to me this would make them step-siblings AT BEST, and I even hesitate to use that term when it applies to adults. Marie Griffis married Chad's father in 2002 - that would have made Crystal 16 years old, Chad 22 years old. If they were not raised in the same household as children, and they are not blood relatives, they would have none of the normal bonds one would expect to see with siblings.

Characterizing them as half-siblings seems incorrect.

JMO...

(sorry, chicoliving, for the broken post; I'd have fixed it myself if I could've figured out how! still trying to figure out how to navigate...)

I went ahead and removed , it was not even necessary to make my point.
 
  • #556
The Ecoli incident happened in November after the move to Green Lane.

Ok, so Misty was in the home then, right? (didn't they meet in October or November, something like that?) If so, then i guess DCF thought it was ok, to have an underage live in girlfriend in the home with the children.
 
  • #557
From what I can gather, it looks like Misty started seeing him around October and they decided to move to Green Lane in November. Regardless it wasn't long after their meeting that she moved in with him. I imagine she was staying with him in October too.
 
  • #558
Please correct me if I'm mistaken, but it's been my understanding that Crystal's fiancee is not a blood relative, that her mother and his father married after these two were GROWN. Seems to me this would make them step-siblings AT BEST, and I even hesitate to use that term when it applies to adults. Marie Griffis married Chad's father in 2002 - that would have made Crystal 16 years old, Chad 22 years old. If they were not raised in the same household as children, and they are not blood relatives, they would have none of the normal bonds one would expect to see with siblings.

Characterizing them as half-siblings seems incorrect.

JMO...

(sorry, chicoliving, for the broken post; I'd have fixed it myself if I could've figured out how! still trying to figure out how to navigate...)

Step-siblings yes. Crystal is 24 and Chad is 30. Crystal was long gone from the house by the time Bruce and Marie married iirc.
 
  • #559
Ok, so Misty was in the home then, right? (didn't they meet in October or November, something like that?) If so, then i guess DCF thought it was ok, to have an underage live in girlfriend in the home with the children.
Misty claims that she and Ron started seeing each other in Sept. 08. It is believed she began babysitting soon there after. I am sure that it was an issue with someone else because my understanding is that is about the time that DCF was called. I have speculated it could of been AB in retaliation against Misty. Does anyone remember the other fight that was around that time with SS and AB? I wonder if the news of Misty and Ron's relationship and Misty babysitting was not passed on to the Crystal Sheffield's at around that time also.
 
  • #560
I hope it was. I hope to heaven someone reported an inappropriate sexual relationship between a grown man and a teenager, around two little children.
 
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