Crystal S., Haleigh's mother #8

[elle1919]

In summary, if Crystal fights, she is condemmed for doing so; how dare she do this when Haleigh is missing, she is diverting from the case, etc. etc...nevermind that JR was the child that should have been taken out of that situation.

...OTOH... If she doesn't fight, she is a lousy mother and people want to know what is wrong with her.

I don't think anything is wrong with her. Ya know oftentimes I wonder if Ronald and Crystal ever read these online forums. I wonder what they think about what people say. I wonder if Crystal were reading would she appreciate the way that many people are portraying her? So many of these comments are painting her in the exact light that she said she wanted to get away from. Maybe she doesn't feel weak or helpless. I doubt that she would be thankful that people think she is not in control of her life.

When we finally have the truth about what happened to Haleigh, it will not be because of the hurtful comments that were made about every player in this case.

 

[Cicada]

Trying to understand the posts between you and TG. I know nothing about twitter. Is this a different twitter account than the one with the angry comments? Also, she hasn't twittered since July?

So if the one with the angry comments isn't Crystal, who would do such a thing and start making these angry comments towards Misty out of the blue when what Misty said was done 8 months ago? Seems to me there's someone wrapped too tight if it's not Crystal. Crystal is understandable to a degree, but an outsider? Injecting themselves too deep, that's scary.

I think it is the same Crystal. I also find it very understandable how she feels. Misty may have made the remarks months ago, but it has been repeated over and over again in the media for the last 8 months. Coupled with the fact it is coming out of the mouth of someone who has been reported to have failed numerous polygraphs and a LVA, whose own family is saying she wasn't home that night, who LE has reportedly said when faced with questions she doesn't want to answer, she reminds them she has a lawyer, who was the last one to see her daughter yet can not give a straight answer, and who is reportedly "away to clear her head", yes, I understand Crystal's feelings quite well.

 

[Whisperer]

I hope the tweeter is Crystal but if it isn't....You also go girl!

 

[Flossie JMO]

Sorry Kool, yes that is her twitter "account".

Trying to understand the posts between you and TG. I know nothing about twitter. Is this a different twitter account than the one with the angry comments? Also, she hasn't twittered since July?

So if the one with the angry comments isn't Crystal, who would do such a thing and start making these angry comments towards Misty out of the blue when what Misty said was done 8 months ago? Seems to me there's someone wrapped too tight if it's not Crystal. Crystal is understandable to a degree, but an outsider? Injecting themselves too deep, that's scary.

 

[Baxter]

Oxycontin is prescribed by a doctor for any number of medical procedures. My daughter received a script for a similar drug, oxycodone, after oral surgery. I am sure the prescribing doctor evaluates the patients pain level before deciding what to prescribe.

I am of the opinion that Crystal is heartbroken because her daughter has been missing for 7 months not because of something she might have seen RC doing in a video. JMO

Oxycontin is NOT prescribed for medical procedures. That is for acute pain.
Oxycodone or percocet would be given for medical procedures or after surgery. Oxycontin is usually given for chronic pain, and even then doctors are reluctant to prescribe it because of the abuse potential.



OxyContin is not indicated for pain in the immediate postoperative period (the first 12-24 hours following surgery), or if the pain is mild, or not expected to persist for an extended period of time. OxyContin is only indicated for postoperative use if the patient is already receiving the drug prior to surgery or if the postoperative pain is expected to be moderate to severe and persist for an extended period of time. Physicians should individualize treatment, moving from parenteral to oral analgesics as appropriate. (See American Pain Society guidelines.)

http://www.rxlist.com/oxycontin-drug.htm

 

[Busylady]

It is a shame that people cant use twitter to support the mother of a missing child, instead they use it to inform her and hurt her by telling her every little thing and fuel rumors that could possibly hurt and upset her. Crystal appeared to stay out of the online drama for a very long time, unfortunately some chose to drag her into the drama. JMO

 

[elle1919]

Oxycontin is NOT prescribed for medical procedures. That is for acute pain.
Oxycodone or percocet would be given for medical procedures or after surgery. Oxycontin is usually given for chronic pain, and even then doctors are reluctant to prescribe it because of the abuse potential.



OxyContin is not indicated for pain in the immediate postoperative period (the first 12-24 hours following surgery), or if the pain is mild, or not expected to persist for an extended period of time. OxyContin is only indicated for postoperative use if the patient is already receiving the drug prior to surgery or if the postoperative pain is expected to be moderate to severe and persist for an extended period of time. Physicians should individualize treatment, moving from parenteral to oral analgesics as appropriate. (See American Pain Society guidelines.)

http://www.rxlist.com/oxycontin-drug.htm

I stand corrected you are right...when I said medical procedures I failed to say after medical procedures.

Edited to add...my bold....I know an awful lot of people that are prescribed that medicine and it is NOT easy for them to obtain it. I didn't want to talk about this earlier but since you said that doctors don't like to prescribe it I guess I will. My younger brother has a clotting disorder and has passed several blood clots and has a lot of pain in his legs. He has been taken Oxycontin for quite awhile and he is currently in the hospital due to his addiction. In my opinion there are a lot of doctors that do not care that their patient is not using the drug properly. When people become addicted to medications the drug companies make more money. Just my opinion..

 

[Baxter]

I stand corrected you are right...when I said medical procedures I failed to say after medical procedures.

Oxycodone or percocet would be given after medical procedures or after surgery. That would be Acute pain. Oxycontin is usually given for chronic pain, and even then doctors are reluctant to prescribe it because of the abuse potential. Doctors do Not give out Oxycontin rx's like people think.

 

[elle1919]

Oxycodone or percocet would be given after medical procedures or after surgery. Oxycontin is usually given for chronic pain, and even then doctors are reluctant to prescribe it because of the abuse potential. Doctors do Not give out Oxycontin rx's like people think.

please see my post above. TIA

 

[Baxter]

please see my post above. TIA

I did. I still don't know if you know the difference between oxycodone for acute pain,and oxycontin for chronic pain. If you would have acknowleged it the first time, I would not have repeated it.

 

[snookie]

http://twitter.com/crystal0430
It seems Crystal has been a little upset in the last 21 hrs
Stop claiming my children, if u want some have them ur self.. I dont like u saying that they look at u like there mom!
This person knows who they are my babies know who there mommy is. No matter what u have put in there lil head.
Maybe something like ur mother isn't around she don't take care of you. Bull crap, you only new them for 6 mon. get real
My first question is why now...... address these comments that where made early on? My second question is how is she talking to Misty 21 hours ago thru twitter? And if Ron was made aware of what was in the letter sometime Wed. night would this be the tweet we would expect between Misty and Crystal?

BBM

I don't blame the poor woman for being upset, but to answer your question, apparently she is just venting. No big issues are going to get solved on the Twitter. It's just a release for her. imo.

Crystal appears to be a very soft spoken person who holds a lot in.... I'm glad to see her getting fiesty and blowing off some steam. It's about time she told Misty like it is! GO CRYSTAL!! :highfive:


By the way, Texasmommy: I had no idea she had a Twitter account, thank you for sharing.

 

[lonetraveler]

I think it's just good manners to be respectful of those that have different opinions. You're right elle,we may never know, or we might one day. I do think she still cares and is jealous of Misty, but that's just my opinion, we don't have to agree. If it were me, I couldn't care less who others have doubts about, or who it bothers, all I would want is my daughter back home, you know what I mean?

You know, if the father of my missing little girl was hugging and kissing on the very one who was the person who was in charge of keeping my little girl safe, and the very one who has failed to tell the truth about what really happened that night, and the very one who has failed two polys with LE, one poly with TM and one Layered Voice Analysis and one Hypnosis, I would be feeling disgust and anger, definitely not jealousy. One minute Ron is crying into the camera to help find Haleigh, the next minute he is sleeping and hugging the one person who can lead LE to Haleigh. Even to suggest that Haleigh's mother would be jealous is really pushing the envelope here.........

 

[elle1919]

I did. I still don't know if you know the difference between oxycodone for acute pain,and oxycontin for chronic pain. If you would have acknowleged it the first time, I would not have repeated it.

I do know the difference between Oxycontin and oxycodone. I also know plenty about fentanyl patches and synthetic morhine. Dilaudid and many others of these heavy duty medicines for pain. I also can tell you that even after repeated conversations with my family members doctor about our concerns about his addiction, we were met with no success. My family participates in support groups full of family members with a story just like mine. So even though you think that oxycontin is difficult to come by in my experience thats not the case.

 

[lonetraveler]

It's pretty common ime. Hard to say with the video, I think she still has strong feelings for Ron, jmo

I too have very strong feelings for Ron, but I wouldn't call it love.

 

[Flossie JMO]

I too have very strong feelings for Ron, but I wouldn't call it love.

I understand that, I think many people have strong feelings about various people in this case. This topic is about Crystal, and that's what I was posting my opinion on. Jmo

 

[Kat]

Yep, she did.

This is my Crystal's twitter account crystal0430 for anyone wishing to follow her, she will be trying post as much as possible5:06 AM Jul 28th from web

I don't understand how twitter works. I do have Crystal's twitter bookmarked though.

Question? Her twitter postings looks as though she's responding to someone, at least to me. As if she is responding to something that was posted by another person? Does MC have a twitter account?

Just curious thank you.

 

[Baxter]

I do know the difference between Oxycontin and oxycodone. I also know plenty about fentanyl patches and synthetic morhine. Dilaudid and many others of these heavy duty medicines for pain. I also can tell you that even after repeated conversations with my family members doctor about our concerns about his addiction, we were met with no success. My family participates in support groups full of family members with a story just like mine. So even though you think that oxycontin is difficult to come by in my experience thats not the case.

Thank you for responding.

 

[faefrost]

I did. I still don't know if you know the difference between oxycodone for acute pain,and oxycontin for chronic pain. If you would have acknowleged it the first time, I would not have repeated it.

Oxycodone is a high end "morphine" like pain killer. Sort of like a more powerful Percocet. Like any painkillers of this family it will cause sleepiness, groginess, memory loss, loss of coordination and general systemic depression incuding respiratory depression.

Oxycontin is essentially several adult doses of Oxycodone bundled into one pill and designed to be slowly released over time as the pill is digested.

So an Oxycodone may give the patient relief for 2 hours ona 4 hour schedule. Oxycontin is designed to spread out several doses over a longer 8 to 12 hour period without the patient having to keep taking pills. It is designed to give a steady level of pain relief for a longer period of time, rather than the fast in fast out Oxycodone.

Now once again Oxycontin is an extremely concentrated amount of Oxycodone. The actual dossage bundled into a single pill can be enough to jeopardize adults if the full dose enters their system all at once. The time release is dependent on the coating on the pill. Hence why you must swallow them and not chew or break them up. That concentrated dossage will also cause a high in abusers. Hence why they will break them up and in some cases powder them to use an alternate method of delivery, such as snorting up the nose.

Now the highest dossages of Oxycontin are designed to keep a roughly 200 pound adult male free of extreme pain for up to 8 hours. Thats alot of pain meds. Picture that in a 30 pound child and you can see where the problem starts. Especially when you realize that even if the child simply swallowed the pill with the coating intact, the childs digestive system works at the same speed (if not slightly faster) then the adults. They will be absorbing the same amount of medication per minute as the adult. As the medication levels build up in their system it will eventually reach a level where respiratory shutdown will occur. Basically the child will simply fall asleep and then stop breathing.

 

[curvecuti]

I was thinking of Crystal last night, she reminds me alot of my former best friend from high school. My friend had a child at the same age Crystal did and she was in a physically abusive relationship. The difference is that my friend would have never let her ex "take" her children.
This is something I can not get past w/ CS. Why is she not fighting everyday to get Jr.? Why did she not fight everyday to get Haleigh and Jr. back from RC? MOO, she doesn't want the responsibilty. I drew that conclusion from reading the custody docs where she told the judge she didn't want to get up to take sweet little Haleigh to the Dr. I was also appalled at her admission of using cocaine while pregnant w/ Jr.
I was reading the docs because of the thread about why was Jr. not in his Mom's custody now. It's quite a revelation if you have not read them.
I think MG is very much interested in CS getting custody of the kids but I think it is more about spite and "winning" over RC and family rather than concern over the kids welfare. All is MOO.
If my ex had my child and I thought that his new wife had any responsibilty for my other child's disappearence, I would go to the ends of the earth to get custody. I would go so far as to not return him from a visitation and go into hiding. I could not lay down and sleep if I believed that.

 

[elle1919]

I was thinking of Crystal last night, she reminds me alot of my former best friend from high school. My friend had a child at the same age Crystal did and she was in a physically abusive relationship. The difference is that my friend would have never let her ex "take" her children.
This is something I can not get past w/ CS. Why is she not fighting everyday to get Jr.? Why did she not fight everyday to get Haleigh and Jr. back from RC? MOO, she doesn't want the responsibilty. I drew that conclusion from reading the custody docs where she told the judge she didn't want to get up to take sweet little Haleigh to the Dr. I was also appalled at her admission of using cocaine while pregnant w/ Jr.
I was reading the docs because of the thread about why was Jr. not in his Mom's custody now. It's quite a revelation if you have not read them.
I think MG is very much interested in CS getting custody of the kids but I think it is more about spite and "winning" over RC and family rather than concern over the kids welfare. All is MOO.
If my ex had my child and I thought that his new wife had any responsibilty for my other child's disappearence, I would go to the ends of the earth to get custody. I would go so far as to not return him from a visitation and go into hiding. I could not lay down and sleep if I believed that.

I don't think I would be comfortable in my day to day life if I thought my children were in danger or in harms way. Quite honestly I see no proof that Crystal believes RJ is in danger with Ronald. Quite the contrary, lately it appears that when Crystal is in front of a microphone she tries to keep the peace and speak out in regards to Ronalds love for Haleigh. Personally I am thrilled that she has decided to focus on bringing Haleigh home rather causing a bitter divide. As mother to Haleigh and RJ she should have a valid say in where her priorities are right now. A custody dispute can be raised at a later date. Despite the many different opinions on this forum about what is best for RJ, I think Crystal might know better than the rest of us what is best for her son. JMO