Crystal S., Haleigh's mother #8

[Donjeta]

Actually, I feel very confident that they conducted a proper investigation into the matter and neither you nor I need to feel okay with anything. We are not members of The Department of Children and Family Services. Well I guess you could be, but I'm not.

Since we are in Crystal's thread I have to say that I am of the opinion that Crystal must have felt DCF conducted a proper investigation as well, she dropped the issues did she not?

I suppose it must be okay to lie to the detectives investigating a disappearance of a small child if DCF and Crystal think so.

Frankly, I don't understand why Crystal hasn't filed for custody. Maybe she doesn't feel up to it but I would be up in arms to get my remaining kid out of there.

 

[Muffet]

The latest responses towards Misty from both Crystal and Marie are un-called for, attacking and dis-tasteful, not to mention the timing. I have no problem with them being upset, but to start taking one and two statements Misty made in the beginning, when she was just responding naturally as this case un-folded and make public remarks that are mean is wrong.

BBM
I understood that Crystal and Marie's latest responses were to recent revelations combined with recent comments by Misty on her MS.

IMO, no one in this case has room to put down the other, nor even if they did, should they. What purpose is it serving to benefit Haleigh and finding her? None. To my knowledge, Misty hasn't attacked any of Haleigh's other side of the family exhibiting responsible sensitive behavior to the circumstances at hand.

I can see Misty's self-servingly pointing to them as her primary suspects as a pretty overt attack.

 

[curvecuti]

BBM
I understood that Crystal and Marie's latest responses were to recent revelations combined with recent comments by Misty on her MS.

I can see Misty's self-servingly pointing to them as her primary suspects as a pretty overt attack.

Huh?? When did Misty point to CS's side of the family as her primary suspects? :waitasec:

 

[debs]

Huh?? When did Misty point to CS's side of the family as her primary suspects? :waitasec:

Revisit the videos arranged by TN through TM.....she says it plain as day.

 

[Muffet]

I suppose it must be okay to lie to the detectives investigating a disappearance of a small child if DCF and Crystal think so.

Frankly, I don't understand why Crystal hasn't filed for custody. Maybe she doesn't feel up to it but I would be up in arms to get my remaining kid out of there.

I've attributed some of it to the nonstop barrage of accusations of taking the focus off Haleigh. The same people who hold her lack of action against her as proof she doesn't care would be ripping her to shreds if she took action.

I don't think that would be enough to stop her, but I am thinking she's hoping for direction and support from Jr's therapist. KWIM?

 

[Muffet]

Huh?? When did Misty point to CS's side of the family as her primary suspects? :waitasec:

In the LVA, when asked who she thought took Haleigh, first on her list was the mother's side, because they didn't want to pay child support.

I can look up and post the transcript or video if you don't remember it.

(eta: Thanks, Deb.)

 

[Flossie JMO]

IIRC she did not say she was listing them in order of priority, and she said if it was them etc

 

[Flossie JMO]

Huh?? When did Misty point to CS's side of the family as her primary suspects? :waitasec:

She didn't iirc

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/faith/news-article.aspx?storyid=144034&catid=295

 

[curvecuti]

In the LVA, when asked who she thought took Haleigh, first on her list was the mother's side, because they didn't want to pay child support.

I can look up and post the transcript or video if you don't remember it.

(eta: Thanks, Deb.)

The video link would be great, I don't think I have seen it, thanks!

 

[Trident]

I suppose it must be okay to lie to the detectives investigating a disappearance of a small child if DCF and Crystal think so.

Frankly, I don't understand why Crystal hasn't filed for custody. Maybe she doesn't feel up to it but I would be up in arms to get my remaining kid out of there.

If I were Crystal I'd have filed for custody in a heartbeat then beat the carp out of Misty. But, I'm not Crystal. Crystal appears to be very low-key, passive, possibly beaten down by RC and/or her mother, I don't know.

On the other hand, maybe she feels JR doesn't need more upset in his life right now and is doing what she feels best for the child she loves. Again, I don't know.

I also don't know why Kim P is no longer representing Crystal. Can anyone fill me in?

TIA and MOO

 

[KOOL LOOK]

BBM
I understood that Crystal and Marie's latest responses were to recent revelations combined with recent comments by Misty on her MS.

I can see Misty's self-servingly pointing to them as her primary suspects as a pretty overt attack.

I didn't understand the recent comments to be anything pointing towards recent actions or comments on behalf of Misty. If so, then that would change my perspective somewhat. But, I truly don't think so. Crystals statement, I'm paraphrasing, too lazy to go get her exact quote, "Your not their Mom, you only knew them 6 months" something to that effect. And the others prior that have just been said by Crystal and Marie. It's un-called for. I haven't seen anyone doing the same towards them.

Misty was being interviewed, interrogated, questioned repeatedly by the media, family, strangers, and especially LE for hours and hours voluntarily. She was forced, made to make assumptions by LE. I blame them for this, not her. LE was trying to force her into giving them information since she couldn't give them juicy second by second details of every moment after the last known eye witness saw her, Haleigh and Jr. alive and well.

Now for the others, yes what you're saying could and should apply to them. But Misty is the exception, she was the focus, LE's key, the target and continues to be even after months and months of facts pointing away from her and towards an abductor.

This is what happens when LE tries to force things upon someone. You might get what you have been pressuring another to do. I think it would be interesting if we all took some time to sleuth, learn and watch real "forced LE confessions". I've followed and learned about 3 real crime cases, and the parrells in those cases and Haleigh's concerning Misty are incredibly similar with like results. Then throw in a 16 year old to boot. Ugh!!!!

 

[Flossie JMO]

If I were Crystal I'd have filed for custody in a heartbeat then beat the carp out of Misty. But, I'm not Crystal. Crystal appears to be very low-key, passive, possibly beaten down by RC and/or her mother, I don't know.

On the other hand, maybe she feels JR doesn't need more upset in his life right now and is doing what she feels best for the child she loves. Again, I don't know.

I also don't know why Kim P is no longer representing Crystal. Can anyone fill me in?

TIA and MOO

Here is a link about Kim no longer representing Crystal

http://www.news4jax.com/news/20072737/detail.html

 

[lonetraveler]

BBM

I don't blame the poor woman for being upset, but to answer your question, apparently she is just venting. No big issues are going to get solved on the Twitter. It's just a release for her. imo.

Crystal appears to be a very soft spoken person who holds a lot in.... I'm glad to see her getting fiesty and blowing off some steam. It's about time she told Misty like it is! GO CRYSTAL!! :highfive:


By the way, Texasmommy: I had no idea she had a Twitter account, thank you for sharing.

Just to add a line to your quote, snookie. A part of grief is anger. I think Crystal is very justified and show stop holding her emotions in check. She needs to be angry. The comments that Misty made concerning her being the mother to the children was extremely inappropriate and antagonistic. Those comments have probably played over and over again in Crystal's mind and she couldn't hold her thoughts inside any longer. It is too bad that Crystal is so brow beaten and cowed, one of the reasons she could not fight against a Ron Cummings person who had all the support he would ever need. Misty should keep her trashy comments to herself and leave Haleigh's mother alone. Too bad I can't speak with Misty and explain this better to her. She is just not comprehending that the sun doesn't shine up the same dog's a** all the time. Misty's time is coming.

 

[debs]

I didn't understand the recent comments to be anything pointing towards recent actions or comments on behalf of Misty. If so, then that would change my perspective somewhat. But, I truly don't think so. Crystals statement, I'm paraphrasing, too lazy to go get her exact quote, "Your not their Mom, you only knew them 6 months" something to that effect. And the others prior that have just been said by Crystal and Marie. It's un-called for. I haven't seen anyone doing the same towards them.
*snipped*

This is the only part relevant to Crystal's thread, but she is a private citizen and can make comments on another site regarding statements made by someone who was IMO attempting to usurp Crystal's role as mother to Jr and Haleigh. It is apparent she feels strongly about that.

I think Crystal shows a great strength emerging to do what she must to ensure her son is taken care of. She did manage to make certain Jr is seen by a therapist to help him get through this ordeal. Who knows what other plans she has. Right now, it appears she is taking care of his needs the best way she possibly can. GOOD ON YOU, CRYSTAL!

 

[Muffet]

The video link would be great, I don't think I have seen it, thanks!

Sure, here ya go:


http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video...stId=playlist&maven_referralObject=1231220760

At 13:00

Misty: I have suspicions, yeah, I have people I think about all the time.

Ward: So what do you think happened?

Misty: I don't know what happened, I just think maybe they come - I mean, if it's her mother's side of the family - they come and they got her because they didn't wanna pay child support. Or if it was somebody else, like I keep hearing stuff about my brother...​

To be clear, I don't think she suspects them at all. But her pointing to them at all, much less first, in her short list of two defies the belief that Crystal and Marie's anger and responses were unjustified because "Misty hasn't attacked any of Haleigh's other side of the family." IMO

 

[Baxter]

Oxycodone is a high end "morphine" like pain killer. Sort of like a more powerful Percocet. Like any painkillers of this family it will cause sleepiness, groginess, memory loss, loss of coordination and general systemic depression incuding respiratory depression.

Oxycontin is essentially several adult doses of Oxycodone bundled into one pill and designed to be slowly released over time as the pill is digested.

So an Oxycodone may give the patient relief for 2 hours ona 4 hour schedule. Oxycontin is designed to spread out several doses over a longer 8 to 12 hour period without the patient having to keep taking pills. It is designed to give a steady level of pain relief for a longer period of time, rather than the fast in fast out Oxycodone.

Now once again Oxycontin is an extremely concentrated amount of Oxycodone. The actual dossage bundled into a single pill can be enough to jeopardize adults if the full dose enters their system all at once. The time release is dependent on the coating on the pill. Hence why you must swallow them and not chew or break them up. That concentrated dossage will also cause a high in abusers. Hence why they will break them up and in some cases powder them to use an alternate method of delivery, such as snorting up the nose.

Now the highest dossages of Oxycontin are designed to keep a roughly 200 pound adult male free of extreme pain for up to 8 hours. Thats alot of pain meds. Picture that in a 30 pound child and you can see where the problem starts. Especially when you realize that even if the child simply swallowed the pill with the coating intact, the childs digestive system works at the same speed (if not slightly faster) then the adults. They will be absorbing the same amount of medication per minute as the adult. As the medication levels build up in their system it will eventually reach a level where respiratory shutdown will occur. Basically the child will simply fall asleep and then stop breathing.

I know all about this being an RN and a chronic pain patient.

 

[Muffet]

I didn't understand the recent comments to be anything pointing towards recent actions or comments on behalf of Misty. If so, then that would change my perspective somewhat. But, I truly don't think so. Crystals statement, I'm paraphrasing, too lazy to go get her exact quote, "Your not their Mom, you only knew them 6 months" something to that effect. And the others prior that have just been said by Crystal and Marie. It's un-called for. I haven't seen anyone doing the same towards them.

I thought Crystal's statement was a natural reaction to Misty's putting "Missing my baby" on her myspace page, after flunking all those polys.

If LE were telling me Misty was lying about whatever happened the night my child went missing under her watch, and then I saw her have the temerity to point the finger at me, then publicly call my child her baby, I'd probably have said much, much worse to her.

Misty was being interviewed, interrogated, questioned repeatedly by the media, family, strangers, and especially LE for hours and hours voluntarily. She was forced, made to make assumptions by LE. I blame them for this, not her. LE was trying to force her into giving them information since she couldn't give them juicy second by second details of every moment after the last known eye witness saw her, Haleigh and Jr. alive and well.

Now for the others, yes what you're saying could and should apply to them. But Misty is the exception, she was the focus, LE's key, the target and continues to be even after months and months of facts pointing away from her and towards an abductor.

This is what happens when LE tries to force things upon someone. You might get what you have been pressuring another to do. I think it would be interesting if we all took some time to sleuth, learn and watch real "forced LE confessions". I've followed and learned about 3 real crime cases, and the parrells in those cases and Haleigh's concerning Misty are incredibly similar with like results. Then throw in a 16 year old to boot. Ugh!!!!

I'm sorry, but I still don't understand the source of conviction that all these law men are guilty of such awful doings.

I see no rational reason why Crystal (or anyone else who was not there) should be expected to take the word of Misty over that of lawmen from local, state, and FBI teams, when we don't even know a fraction of what they know or have as evidence.

 

[Flossie JMO]

I wish we knew who was there.

 

[elle1919]

http://www.clipsyndicate.com/video/play/845635

I was wondering if Law Enforcement had a purpose for asking Crystal to accompany them to the boarded up house rather than any other member of the family in the above linked video.

 

[debs]

http://www.clipsyndicate.com/video/play/845635

I was wondering if Law Enforcement had a purpose for asking Crystal to accompany them to the boarded up house rather than any other member of the family in the above linked video.

According to the report, it was on Feb. 23rd. It looked like it was later in the evening. The report was posted at a little after midnight. Could it be that no one else was around at the time? I dunno.