CT- Annie Le, missing from Yale, thread #2

[Soulmagent]

Could it be a bag of clothes she is holding?

 

[Julessleuther]

I agree. I have a close asian friend who is very short and would never be seen without her heels! Not to be stereotypical, but asian woman usually take great care of their appearance---all my asian friends are very fashionable and always "well put together"; unlike me, who am always in jeans and flip flops!

I have noticed that very short women will wear heels more often, even when they don't seem appropriate for the occasion. This could be her habit.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Blow it up again and zoom in on the glass doors. I didnt see it either but you see her other arm on the bar.

Welcome to WS, Toi~ Yes, you are right. I thought her hand was up on the door, but maybe not.

I still say Le's body language is odd there. Maybe she didn't expect the girl to be opening the door and she was surprised by it? Something just seems off when you see her in the photo with the other person.

ETA: Yes...what Traveling Bug said!

 

[Angel Who Cares]

UPDATED: Pictures: Police Search For Missing Yale Student Annie Le~1-18 pictures
http://www.courant.com/community/ne...annie-le-0910-pictures,0,3881581.photogallery

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[amysmom]

Oh..we're on the same page. I'm wondering how he knew at noon that Annie wouldn't be at her class. I have NOT heard a word about his 7 member lab team ever seeing Annie. That's the problem - how did he know? Apparently he has a tight locked alibi for the time in question.

Could be Schlessinger is simply wrong/off about the time of the email.

Bennett would be a fool to claim her team noticed her absence if they had not & I believe that is all he said, not that they actually had seen her.

 

[christee]

I keep looking at the pic and now it looks like the the girl might be holding the door for Annie while Annie shifts what she's holding to her left hand so that she can grab the door w/ her right hand.

 

[TonyGatto]

I think the most interesting angle is this canceled class. Whose class was it? Bennett's? What time was the class? And Bennett was the one who said she would not be at the class?

 

[Angel Who Cares]

Items Seized in Yale Grad Student's Disappearance
Police say items seized in Yale grad student's disappearance but have yet to link them to her
September 13, 2009
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As authorities continued their search for a Yale University graduate student and bride-to-be who disappeared several days ago, they said they are now examining potential evidence from a laboratory where she was last seen.

Investigators, having already gone through the videos once, continued to review the surveillance tapes frame-by-frame Saturday to see if they overlooked Le, who could have changed into a laboratory coat or other clothes before leaving the building. Mertz said the review included video enhancement being conducted by state police.

"I do not know that it's definitive that she has left the building at this point," Mertz said.

"I feel bad what happened to her," said Anna Beth Funk, who lives across the street from Le's apartment. "It broke my heart hearing she was about to get married because I love being married and it must be so hard for her fiance."

Wesleyan University professor Charles Lemert, who also lives across the street, said Le always took time to talk to his 11-year-old daughter.

"I wish more than anything this could be solved and turn into some kind of misunderstanding, but it seems bleak," he said.

Article:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=8559686
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[Kimmer]

I personally think that someone was stalking her, my thought is based on the article she wrote about crime on campus, I also feel that this stalking knew she was about to be married and wanted to get her before that happned....I find this case very bizzare and I hope that LE goes thru the tapes for the days leading up to this to see if there was anyone caught on tape going into the lap with a large rolling suitcase...Because I think she could have been removed from the building this way while the people were leaving the building for the fire alarm, I have also heard that there was an attached garage to this building, which if she was in a suitcase it woudl be easy to roll her out to the garage and load her into a vehicle....

I pray for her family that I am wrong with what I feel.

 

[Emma Peel]

A couple of thoughts - agreeing & just observations:

Clogs in the lab/hospital and heels in the office/office hours/clinic - quite common for doctors/researchers.

It's books in the photo. Look at the non-distorted photos published in the news articles.

It's latex lab gloves holding the door. A young women with a ballerina bun - keeps the hair out of the petri dishes. Also common. Fist - her hands were dirty, or, she was getting ready to take the books from Annie. Wearing lab gloves to a building exit door? That struck me as kinda different, but I don't know their set-up. This girl holding the door, perhaps was expecting Annie or, just being polite noticing Annie's loaded arms? Surely she has been located & interviewed. IMO this is the same pix as the one that's been in all the news articles. Different angle, video catches the doorway & the girl holding the door. Angle distorts the books so they look like a nice big cat. Check out the foot position on the tiles and you'll see. Annie's head position is the same.

Security Card Swipes have to happen all over the building. Elevator, floor, lab rooms. You can't get on a floor you aren't authorized to be on. You can't get in a lab you don't have a swipe authorization for. Think high security clearance. Like on TV. They can likely follow Annie's swipes around the building on their system that day. I hope so anyway.

IMO: Yale will not protect a professor from any police investigation. Yale will protect a professor, his team, his grad & undergrad students from wild and unfair public speculation, thus no more Bennett Lab website page. Bennett bio page still up. He's a big boy, he can take it. But they're going to protect the students. Good for Yale.

They were very slow to close the building and make it a crime scene. Not until they found her clothes with the blood. That bothers me. They must have had reason to think she'd left that building.

Want more on the clothes and WHERE in the building they were found, and how they were found.

Found it interesting that they brought german shepards in today. Bloodhouds earlier in the week. Best to let the crime dog-trainers in the pool comment on that - if its of any significance at all.

Now, just noodling a little:

Working on the e-mail cancelling Annie's TA- lab. Bennet's lab is a closely knit crew - a family. Someone must have had enough info to know that Annie would miss that class. Perhaps Bennett has good alibis such as "I was lecturing 40 students" across campus in a different building and then went to lunch. Perhaps there's some logical reason members of the team knew Annie couldn't show up to TA, they told Bennett, and Bennett passed it on. Perhaps the culprit is the one that told Bennett that Annie wasn't showing up at work that day.

It's been explained that she was due at lab (had it reserved) for lab work at 10 AM. She didn't show. If this is accurate info, and if I'm understanding things, she arrived at the building at that time per the video, but never made it to lab? She was waylaid? Is the timeline here shorter than we think? Like the time it takes to get from the door (or wherever her 1st card swipe was) to the lab? 5 minutes? She was somehow waylaid in those 5 minutes? How many swipes did her card see that day? Since? Is the card with the clothes? Was the fire alarm the ruse to move her body - 3 hours later?

We know so little. I guess we must just be patient. And that is so very hard.

 

[Angel Who Cares]

I was just re-listening to the news conference & caught the 1st woman speaking in the very beg. of the video....about an 1/8 into the video saying "I've been in conversation's with Annie Le's family.........to find out what has happened over the last few years!!! :waitasec: Why did she say over the last few years????? I just thought that is a very odd statement to make.

Link To News Conference Video:
http://cbs5.com/video/[email protected]

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[Angel Who Cares]

A life that may not be: Details of the canceled wedding of Annie Le
Sunday, September 13th 2009, 4:00 AM
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Only one question was supposed to be on the mind of would-be groom Jonathan Widawsky on Sunday.

Do you take this woman to be your wife?

Cantor Sandra Sherry, who would have presided over today&#8217;s ceremony, immediately feared foul play, saying Le, 24, would never skip out on her wedding day.

&#8220;Her smile was effervescent when she spoke about the wedding,&#8221; said Sherry. &#8220;She embroidered her own veil, which says to me that she was looking forward to this occasion.&#8221;

Some 160 guests were to arrive at the North Ritz Club in Syosset at 11 a.m. for the ceremony, set on a gazebo overlooking a pond. The celebration would have continued until the early evening with a meal, open bar and toasts.

Deborah Kiley, owner of Deborah&#8217;s Hairloft in Huntington, was planning to do Le&#8217;s hair and makeup this morning. &#8220;She wanted a slick back bun and very simple makeup,&#8221; Kiley said. &#8220;She wanted everything perfect.&#8221;

Sherry has known Widawsky since he was a baby, she said, but noticed &#8220;he was happiest when he was around Annie. He really shone bright around her.&#8221;

&#8220;They had everything going for them,&#8221; she said. &#8220;They were not only a couple, they were best friends. They reached a level of maturity that said they were ready for matrimony.&#8221;

The groom&#8217;s father, Michael Widawsky, called Sherry on Wednesday to say the wedding would be postponed.

&#8220;He was very, very distraught,&#8221; she said. &#8220;He said the family made a decision. They didn&#8217;t know where she was and people were coming to town so they had to postpone the wedding.&#8221;

Article:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_...9-13_details_of_the_canceled_wedding_of_.html
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VIDEO: New Evidence In Missing Bay Area Yale Student 09/12/09
http://cbs5.com/video/[email protected]

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[Trino]

Did anyone see Annie after she swiped her card to enter the building?

How many people work in the building?

Did anyone see Annie outside after the fire alarm or on any stairwell during the evacuation? Surely, she would have talked to someone. During an evacuation, most people just stand around/mingle until they can again enter the building.

 

[Angel Who Cares]

Bloody clothes in missing bride's lab
Last Updated: 5:47 AM, September 13, 2009
Posted: 3:10 AM, September 13, 2009
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The mysterious disappearance of a Yale grad student days before her wedding took a sinister turn yesterday when investigators found bloody clothes and other evidence of a crime scene in the science-lab building where she was last seen.

Cops using bloodhounds found the evidence tucked away above the tiles of a dropped ceiling in the Amistad Street Building, where Annie Le was last seen entering Tuesday morning, according to the New Haven Register.

"There is no reason to believe whatsoever" that she's a runaway bride, said Yale spokeswoman Linda Lorimer.

Her fiancé, Jon Widawsky, a physics graduate student at Columbia University, canceled the wedding Friday after Le had been missing for three days.

Le, a 24-year-old doctoral student from Placerville, Calif., was studying pharmacology and molecular medicine and was last seen going into the building that housed the school's molecular-biology labs.

More than 100 officers with the FBI, Connecticut State Police and New Haven police had pored over the building's labs and surveillance footage hunting for evidence, and hit paydirt yesterday in the basement where Le had done work.

They also conducted interviews with all those who had been in the building the day she was last seen, including her professor and lab mates.

Article:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/bloody_clothes_in_missing_bride_wDZk02N1NnobuY0Drw0PCM

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[Angel Who Cares]

SS (or anyone else)
Do you have the link to the photo of who LE took away in the car? TIA!

An unidentified man gets into back of an unmarked New Haven police vehicle outside 10 Amistad St. Saturday, Sept. 12, 2009.

Investigators took unidentified male for questioning at Amistad Hall where missing Yale grad student Annie Marie Le, 24, who was scheduled to get married, was last seen.

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[Trino]

If bloody clothing was found in the lab where Annie was last seen, there's a very good chance the clothing is related to AL's disappearance. What problem is it that Yale and LE will not confirm the clothes belong to Annie? The news media already knows the clothing has been found, and certainly the perp knows it.

The news conference was not informational.

 

[MomofBoys]

My take on the photo is that she's carrying a fairly big stack of books/files to the lab. As she's approaching the door, the door opens. Because of the tint, she doesn't know who's behind the door and she steps back instinctively, She then recognizes the girl and they make a few seconds of small talk before they part ways. Judging by the positioning, I'd imagine the next shots would be the door-opener moving out and off to the left of the frame and Annie walking in.

Definitely not a cat, though, haha.

My gut instinct on this one from the beginning is that there's someone, maybe another student/lab worker who had become infatuated with Annie and things escalated as her wedding approached. When they saw she actually planned to go through with the wedding, they became panicked and angry.

When all is said and done, I think it'll be a young male, probably beneath her in academic standing (maybe an undergrad doing more menial tasks at the lab) and in retrospect, people will probably realize there were red flags all along.

Professor Bennett IS interesting, but I'll just have to take their word re: alibi. For now.

 

[browneyes]

Logical conclusion would be that she wouldn't dare take a cat into such a facility. Can you imagine the reaction of the people to an animal being introduced into that environment with all their priceless equipment and experiments taking place? Hmmmm...someone could get pretty upset about such a thing now that you mention it....:waitasec:

I still believe it is an open, large book with papers underneath it.

I have always thought it looked like an open, white binder. She appears to be reading something in the picture.

 

[jamiect]

raying: for Annie's family and friends today, which should have been one of the happiest of her life.

Wedding details:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_...9-13_details_of_the_canceled_wedding_of_.html

 

[MissJames]

Interestingly enough, her wedding plans were announced in the same publication as her story for safety and crime prevention.

Annie Le, (Pharmacology 2nd year and B
staffer) announced her engagement to Jonathan
Widawsky, grad student at Columbia. Wedding in
September 2009.

http://bbs.yale.edu/images/B10_1.pdf

Widawsky is definitely not an Asian name. However, their appears to be a very large Asian population at Yale from what I am reading in various places. Maybe while her family may not have any problem with it...perhaps someone else did. I wonder if this the Professor they questioned:

Le worked in the lab of Anton Bennett, an associate professor of pharmacology. Police confiscated her belongings from that lab yesterday and were still examining her lab space Tuesday evening.

Bennett, for his part, said he was first contacted by police late Tuesday after Le’s roommate reported her missing.

He emphasized that his eight-person laboratory team, of which Le is a member, works closely together and, as such, her colleagues noticed her absence quickly.

“There was certainly immediate concern about her whereabouts,” Bennett said. “And they grew over the course of the day,” especially after she missed a pathology class for which she is a teaching assistant.

Bennett described Le as an extremely diligent and well-organized student. He added that she was always aware of her surroundings and took appropriate precautions when leaving the lab late at night.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,548904,00.html BBM

Thanks for the new thread, Kaylynn~ It is great.

BBM
You could be right. I have an in law[caucasian] who married a brilliant Asian Dr. His parents kept saying her parents were against the marriage,but it turns out it was HIS mother with the issue.
This was definitely someone with access to that building at the very least.Probably someone who knew her well.So sad.