CT- Annie Le, missing from Yale, thread #2

[forgetmenot]

I wonder how he behaved at class? I'm still floored about the steam vent being set off by a person.

Please clarify--has le established that the steam vent was intentionally set off presumably to detract from the perp's commission of the crime and disposal of evidence?

 

[amysmom]

Someone went to this length with Schles....setting up the domain josephschlessinger.com to post critical stuff of this guy. Schelss then takes this person to court...he has lawyers up the gazoo!!
http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/html/2009/d2009-0695.html

Pretty recently too!

 

[scandi]

Since the news about the clothing surfaced yesterday, I've been thinking it belonged to the perp with possibly Annie's blood on them. Maybe an outer shirt or lab coat that he was wearing and the blood might be spatter or castoff? I also think it's wise of LE to search the incinerators since she wasn't seen leaving the building and (presumably) her body would've been removed somehow. MOO only!

I think so too Panthera, and as a TH said yesterday, what about his shoes? If his clothes had blood spatter so would his shoes. That might be one way they nail the guy,

I wonder if they have any inclination on who did this? It seems like there would be a limited number of prospects with access to the bldg at that time IMO

 

[Emma Peel]

Someone went to this length with Schles....setting up the domain josephschlessinger.com to post critical stuff of this guy. Schelss then takes this person to court...he has lawyers up the gazoo!!
http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/html/2009/d2009-0695.html

Nice find puffster.

LOL. Not sure what any of this has to do with the case.

I guess we've established some history & character background on Annie's bosses at work, and the high-powered stuff they work on.

Other than that ... I have to say, we've got nada. JMHO, of course.

 

[panthera]

I think so too Panthera, and as a TH said yesterday, what about his shoes? If his clothes had blood spatter so would his shoes. That might be one way they nail the guy,

I wonder if they have any inclination on who did this? It seems like there would be a limited number of prospects with access to the bldg at that time IMO

I'm trying to figure out now what type of weapon could've been used to yield a "small amount of blood" on the clothing that was found and no blood evidence on the floor or in the area where the crime would've occurred? Unless the perp cleaned up the area, but I'd think if it was an area that had a lot of things in it there would be something he'd miss. MOO

 

[Chili Fries]

I'm trying to figure out now what type of weapon could've been used to yield a "small amount of blood" on the clothing that was found and no blood evidence on the floor or in the area where the crime would've occurred? Unless the perp cleaned up the area, but I'd think if it was an area that had a lot of things in it there would be something he'd miss. MOO

I think there's a chance the clothes may be unrelated to Annie's disappearance. A maintenance person could have been using them as rags and left them there or they could have been put there as a barrier against a small water leak or something like that.

 

[SuziQ]

Please clarify--has le established that the steam vent was intentionally set off presumably to detract from the perp's commission of the crime and disposal of evidence?

They did not elaborate, but did say it was a human being that opened that piece of equipment that set off the alarm.

 

[Angel Who Cares]

I apologize if any of these have been posted....I've been flying around diffeent threads adding media to them & catching up reading this thread too! :winko:

UPDATE: Bloody clothes not items Le was last seen wearing
Published: Sunday, September 13, 2009
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The blood-stained clothes found in ceiling tiles at the Yale University laboratory where graduate student Annie Le disappeared are not the clothes Le was last seen wearing, law enforcement officials said.

The items were sent for testing to see if the clothes had any connection to Le, whose disappearance five days before her wedding has attracted national media attention.

Investigators said a small amount of blood was found on the clothing found Saturday at 10 Amistad St.

Le is the daughter of Vietnamese immigrants and her mother is said to own several nail salons in California. Sources said Le was primarily raised by an aunt and uncle.

Article:
http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2009/09/13/news/doc4aad41ad5531c586462814.txt
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UPDATE: Authorities searching Hartford trash facility for missing Yale student
Published: Sunday, September 13, 2009
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Paul Nonnenmacher, spokesman for the Connecticut Resource Recovery Authority, said state police were at the site late Saturday until early this morning, before taking a two hour break and resuming their search on Sunday.

Nonnenmacher said the material at the plant is typical municipal trash, not medical waste.

Law enforcement officials Sunday said the clothes are not the same items Le was seen wearing on Tuesday as she passed a security camera entering the building. They continued to test them and had not linked them to Le as of Sunday afternoon.

Article:
http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2009/09/13/blogs/doc4aad5240b27ab499772272.txt
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Mass email calls Annie Le&#8217;s disappearance a &#8216;perplexing mystery&#8217; (video, photo links)
September 13, 3:11 PM
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On Saturday night, Yale University Vice President and Secretary, Linda Lorimer, sent a mass email message to the entire campus saying the disappearance of student Annie Le remains &#8220;the most perplexing mystery.&#8221;

Reports indicate that bloody clothes were found in ceiling tiles within the building, however, authorities have not confirmed they are related to Annie or the case. According to CNN, the clothing is being tested in more than one lab.

According to the Yale Daily News, Lorimer also said in her email, &#8220;As I am sure you understand, at this delicate time it is particularly unhelpful to begin speculating or jumping to conclusions. If it does develop that a crime occurred, we want to do everything to ensure that the investigation proceeds as swiftly and completely as possible.&#8221;

Video Regarding The Bloody Clothing:
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crim...dy-clothes-found-in-Yale-lab-video-photo-link

To watch breaking news and events streamed live over the Net, click here:
http://www.examiner.com/x-12767-US-...m6d19-Live-streaming-breaking-news-and-events

Article:
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crim...arance-a-perplexing-mystery-video-photo-links

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[SuziQ]

Nice find puffster.

LOL. Not sure what any of this has to do with the case.

I guess we've established some history & character background on Annie's bosses at work, and the high-powered stuff they work on.

Other than that ... I have to say, we've got nada. JMHO, of course.

Actually if he's involved, we've got motive. If Annie was in this guys crosshairs and threatened to report him.....

A professor who went on a killing spree in GA. this summer has the same type of background of harrasment among other things. He was a socopathic, narcissistic bully who couldn't stand not having control. That finally led him to gun down a bunch of people.

 

[panthera]

I think there's a chance the clothes may be unrelated to Annie's disappearance. A maintenance person could have been using them as rags and left them there or they could have been put there as a barrier against a small water leak or something like that.

There was blood found on them though so it seems suspicious to me that they were also found hidden in the ceiling. What does seem odd is stashing the clothing in the ceiling but being able to remove her body ~ assuming that's what happened and the two things are connected. MOO

 

[MomofBoys]

Let's take the clothes out of the equation for a second. IF these clothes are somehow unrelated to her disappearance...are we just looking at a tremendous coincidence? IS there a chance that this normally "together" young woman had a bit of a mental break under the strain of a mentally intense, stressful job and an imminent wedding?

I know it's probably a 1 in a million chance of a scenario. She likely would have taken her purse and phone. If she freaked out and left without them, she'd be found, I think. Not to mention we'd likely see her leaving the building. I just want her to be found alive in a way that's more than normal, even. :/

I hope they're telling the family more than they're telling us, because all this speculation must be driving them mad. We have to assume LE is going on something. The clothes, while compelling, can't really provide a path in the short-term.

 

[Knox]

Maybe the students had started returning from the fire alarm and the clothes were the last step in hiding the evidence?

 

[amysmom]

Very unsavoury snippet from Schlessinger's sexual harassment suit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Joseph_Schlessinger_Sexual_Harassment_Lawsuit_Excerpt.gif

Is there a pix of this perv?

 

[Toi]

Who was the woman that faked her own kidnapping or disappearance last year or the year before? She was getting married. Cant remember the details but they did find her and she was faking it and the family and friends said at first that she would never ever "run away" but she actually did. I really cant remember any details except the generality of the story. I think, could be wrong, but she was committed or something.

 

[Emma Peel]

Okay, just an article for anyone who needs to get more understanding about why Schlessinger is still at Yale. Still, it's always nice if one could find a way to have an illustrious career sans potty mouth, leering, and narcissism.
On the other hand, perhaps that sort of person is rare.
JMO

http://yalemedicine.yale.edu/ym_au06/war.html (complete article link)

snippet:
"When Schlessinger learned in January that the FDA had approved Sutent, Lax recalls that he shared a bottle of champagne with his lab members and then returned to work. He will receive royalties from a drug projected to bring Pfizer more than $1 billion in annual revenues. &#8220;Money doesn&#8217;t speak to him,&#8221; says Lax, noting that life went on unchanged after Sutent was approved &#8220;He didn&#8217;t buy three more houses or a sports car. He didn&#8217;t slow down his working schedule.&#8221; According to Lax, the couple plans to give Yale and other organizations most of the money one day. Schlessinger also intends to give his department part of his half share of the $1 million prize he received in Tel Aviv."

 

[jnTexas]

There was blood found on them though so it seems suspicious to me that they were also found hidden in the ceiling. What does seem odd is stashing the clothing in the ceiling but being able to remove her body ~ assuming that's what happened and the two things are connected. MOO

The only thing I can think of is that the clothing was the perps. that he/she hid them in the ceiling tiles just in case the body was found his/her clothes with blood on them would not be found with the body. This perp probably figured no one would ever check the ceiling tiles for evidence. JMO

 

[Angel Who Cares]

Search For Yale Student Turns To Conn. Incinerator
Officials 'Following Trash' That Left Lab
POSTED: Sunday, September 13, 2009
UPDATED: 4:54 pm EDT September 13, 2009
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FBI agent Bill Reiner said Sunday that investigators are "following the trash" that left the university laboratory in New Haven. He declined to comment further on the search at the Connecticut Resources Recovery Authority's trash-to-energy plant in Hartford.

On Sunday morning, a state police Major Crimes Squad van drove down a ramp into the basement area of the building where the lab is located. Officials had no immediate comment.

On Sunday, students prayed for Le's safe return at The University Church.

"It has been a week that has tested many people in many different ways," the Rev. Ian Buckner Oliver said just before he gave the Sunday morning sermon. "It has brought up a lot of fears for people. It has brought up a lot of worry and concern for her and for all our safety."

The student-dominated congregation offered a moment of silence and prayer, "for Annie, and her family, who have arrived here in New Haven, for her fiance, on this, what would have been their wedding day. Let's lift them up in our prayers," Oliver said.

Le's family arrived in New Haven on Saturday, Oliver said after the service. He said the church doesn't have any other events or prayer services planned specifically for Le.

"There is nothing else at this point because the university and police have said there is no criminal investigation, there is no proof of a crime. So at this point, we are just praying," Oliver said.

VIDEO: Items Seized In Yale Student's Disappearance
http://www.clickorlando.com/video/20873455/index.html

Article:
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/20885454/detail.html
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OFFICIAL YALE UNIVERSITY E-MAIL MESSAGE
To: All Yale Faculty, Students & Staff
From: Linda Koch Lorimer
Summary: Community Message
Date: 12-SEP-2009 09:33:00 PM Message ID: 45261
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With all the media attention this weekend about the disappearance of Annie Le, our third year pharmacology graduate student, I wanted to give you an update. Because of the numerous rumors and speculation, I asked representatives of the FBI, the Connecticut State Police, Yale and New Haven Police leaders to speak to the press this afternoon to clarify where things stand. The law enforcement authorities are letting no stone go unturned: it is impressive to see the cooperation and concerted action of more than 100 law enforcement experts who are working tirelessly as a team.

Alas, this remains the most perplexing mystery. We still do not know where Annie is or what has happened to her. We were told today that some items were found in the Amistad Building that are now being analyzed, but it is unknown at this time whether they are connected to her.

As I am sure you understand, at this delicate time it is particularly unhelpful to begin speculating or jumping to conclusions. If it does develop that a crime occurred, we want to do everything to ensure that the investigation proceeds as swiftly and completely as possible. We hope that anyone in our community or the area with helpful information will call the FBI hotline at 877-503-1950. Given the suggestions in some of the national press about general safety in the area, it is worth remembering that the City reports that crime in New Haven has decreased by more than 50% since 1990.

I have been in contact with Annie&#8217;s family and also her fiancé. As you would expect, we have underscored to them that the University wants to do everything in our power to find Annie and to do all that we can to support them. They asked us to share their own request that everyone respect their privacy in these horrible days for them.

This is a difficult time for many in this community, too, as we worry about Annie. Martha Highsmith, Deputy Secretary, has been holding informational sessions with those who work and study in the Amistad Building and elsewhere in the School of Medicine complex; and there will be additional sessions when the deans think they can be useful. Students in particular should feel free to share this email with any family members and friends who have questions.

Thanks to all who have been expressing concern for Annie and her family and friends. Like you, I fervently hope that the mystery of her disappearance will soon be solved.

Article:
https://light.its.yale.edu/messages/univmsgs/detail.asp?Msg=45261
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Police search Amistad Park
Sunday, September 13, 2009
12:33 p.m.
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Three cars from the Connecticut State Police have pulled up alongside Amistad Park, a grassy open space across from 10 Amistad St., the building where Annie Le MED '13 was last seen. A trooper with a search dog ran alongside a fence near the park's Amistad Street entrance for about five minutes, and then the pair left.

View Larger Google Map:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...-72.925444&spn=0.024178,0.042915&z=14&iwloc=A

Article:
http://www.yaledailynews.com/crosscampus/2009/09/13/police-search-amistad-park/

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[passionflower]

Research animals.........are they cremated when they die?
Is/Was a crematorium in use anywhere on the campass?
Just a thought......

 

[passionflower]

what caused all the steam in the lab to trigger the fire alarm? do we know?

 

[Emma Peel]

There was blood found on them though so it seems suspicious to me that they were also found hidden in the ceiling. What does seem odd is stashing the clothing in the ceiling but being able to remove her body ~ assuming that's what happened and the two things are connected. MOO

I know. THAT is so wierd. Maybe it's her blood, perp's clothing. Look for a naked person leaving the building on the videotape, I guess. I jest, but, I'm just not getting my head around it.