GUILTY CT - Barry James, 59, stabbed to death, Fairfield, 28 Aug 2006

[SewingDeb]

Jeana,
All of my children were early talkers and spoke in complete sentences by age one. While that is unusual, it depends on the child. Some two year olds can express themselves very well.

 

[calus_3]

I would take the child to the doctor to have her examined for proof. If there was proof, neighbor sicko would just disappear and would never be heard from, seen, or show up ever again. I would have a rock solid alibi, of course.

Mess with my kids, meet your maker. No two ways about it.

I would require proof as kids sometimes hamstring someone they don't like and are prone to lies. But given proof, no problem and no remorse.

This guy should have waited for proof.

Cal

 

[GlitchWizard]

Jeana,
All of my children were early talkers and spoke in complete sentences by age one. While that is unusual, it depends on the child. Some two year olds can express themselves very well.

I had early talkers in my gifted preschool as well. But even if the kids aren't talking early, ALL my little ones learned sign language before they learned to talk. We always used complete sentences with the sign language and the kids could all sign complete thoughts before they could say them. This tells me that the child at least was able to form the thoughts of what happened to them - and perhaps could have portrayed it - however, at two, I don't think kids yet know what is acceptable and unacceptable touch - they have to be told "We don't bite our sisters" and "We don't touch our privates outside of the bathroom" etc.

How could a two year old, even if they were speaking the King's English perfectly communicate that something happened that was wrong? It is possible, but would be interesting to have been in on that conversation.

"Did Mr. X touch your privates" *nods head* 'Uh huh'
"Do you like Barney *nods head* 'Uh huh'
"Are you sleepy?" *nods head* 'Uh huh', I mean ' 'Uh huh'
"Is the sky yellow?" *nods head* 'Uh huh' *giggles*

 

[tuppence]

possible scenario. child is taking a nap. crazy sicko neighbor breaks in. mother finds him in compromising position - not one that would do physical damage but clearly molestation. She freaks out grabs the children and bolts. Calls her husband from her cellphone so he can deal with the police.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

possible scenario. child is taking a nap. crazy sicko neighbor breaks in. mother finds him in compromising position - not one that would do physical damage but clearly molestation. She freaks out grabs the children and bolts. Calls her husband from her cellphone so he can deal with the police.

Yeah, but don't we know that's not what happened???? I mean she was on a scheduled out of town trip, was she not? Maybe I missed something. IF she came in and was an EYEWITNESS to this, then she's even MORE wrong for not calling the police. She could have called her husband first, but why not the police right after? AND, what mother could walk in and SEE that happened to her baby and not attack???? Wouldn't you try and kill someone with your own bare hands or anything handy close by?

 

[gardenmom]

I don't mean to sound ignorant, honest. I just don't understand how far apart 2-year olds can be. One can barely say "ball" and yet another can not only tell her mother that she was molested but explain who did it??? I can't get there.

My son was speaking by 11 months, with words that I could understand. Such as "pretty tree". He was forming those two words just before his first birthday. By 15-18 months, but definately before two, he was speaking in full sentences, such as "I go outside, Mommy?". So, depending on how much older than two she was, I have no problems with her telling her mom, "The bad man touched me on my pee pee", or whatever.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

My son was speaking by 11 months, with words that I could understand. Such as "pretty tree". He was forming those two words just before his first birthday. By 15-18 months, but definately before two, he was speaking in full sentences, such as "I go outside, Mommy?". So, depending on how much older than two she was, I have no problems with her telling her mom, "The bad man touched me on my pee pee", or whatever.

Thanks. Unfortunately for me, my memory with that sort of thing isn't so good, so I honestly couldn't tell you what ages any of my three began to speak.

Here's a new article:

FAIRFIELD, Connecticut (AP) -- A lawyer in this quiet suburban community was charged with killing a 58-year-old neighbor he suspected had molested his 2-year-old daughter, prompting police to investigate whether the molestation occurred.

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"The daughter gave the mother information which was alarming and disturbing. The mom relayed it to her husband. That was the spark," said Edington's attorney, Michael Sherman.

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"We have no indication (the molestation claim) is true or not true," Capt. Gary MacNamara said Wednesday, adding that authorities had not received a complaint about the neighbor immediately before the killing.

Police had gone to the neighborhood before, when Edington called to complain that he could see James through a window, police said. "Either he was partly clothed or revealed parts of his anatomy that were inappropriate," MacNamara said.

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James served two days in prison in May 2001 on a drunken driving charge, according to the state Department of Correction.

"He had some bizarre behavior over the last month," said Darrell Maynard, a neighbor. "He drove his car through his garage, hit the other neighbor's building."

Another time a neighbor found James intoxicated on the street, Maynard said. James shouted obscenities at children, he said.

'Something had to happen that was terrible'
As for Edington, Maynard said: "Something had to happen that was terrible for this to have occurred." Edington "seemed like a computer geek or something. He was not anybody you would ever feel you were threatened by."

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http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/31/neighbor.stabbing.ap/index.html

 

[Peter Hamilton]

Fox Dayside just talked about the case--only 2% of temporary insanity cases are successful,so Jeana,if what you are saying is true about any plea deal in the works,,that guy better take it!

 

[Jeana (DP)]

Fox Dayside just talked about the case--only 2% of temporary insanity cases are successful,so Jeana,if what you are saying is true about any plea deal in the works,,that guy better take it!

True!!! If they're already talking pleas, he's most likely not ever going to trial. He'll serve some time, but he's young. With time off for good behavior, it won't be a lengthy sentence. The fact that he not only killed a child molester, but that he's an attorney and can be an asset to the other inmates may even help his stay in prison be . . . well, as good as it can. He probably won't be a target for other inmates.

 

[Peter Hamilton]

true--inmates always appreciate free legal help--if he's smart,he'll promote that in prison

 

[southcitymom]

Jeana,
All of my children were early talkers and spoke in complete sentences by age one. While that is unusual, it depends on the child. Some two year olds can express themselves very well.

Same with both my sons - my recent experience with 2 year olds is that they have a wide range of verbal behavior that is considered normal. I would certainly have listened to my 2-year old son if he had told me about any disturbing and alarming things and I would have backed that up with a medical visit, etc...

There's a lot about this case that just doesn't make sense to me right now.

I will also say that while many of us can understand the emotions behind this man's attack and many of us may even believe ourselves capable of such murder, what this lawyer did was off the charts. The VAST majority of cartetakers of children who are molested do not sneak in the purported molester's window at night and stab him many times with a knife.

This guy had other issues and I am not yet convinced that his daughter was molested.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

Same with both my sons - my recent experience with 2 year olds is that they have a wide range of verbal behavior that is considered normal. I would certainly have listened to my 2-year old son if he had told me about any disturbing and alarming things and I would have backed that up with a medical visit, etc...

There's a lot about this case that just doesn't make sense to me right now.

I will also say that while many of us can understand the emotions behind this man's attack and many of us may even believe ourselves capable of such murder, what this lawyer did was off the charts. The VAST majority of cartetakers of children who are molested do not sneak in the purported molester's window at night and stab him many times with a knife.

This guy had other issues and I am not yet convinced that his daughter was molested.

I think he did it on Monday afternoon, not even night. I'm not even sure if they'll ever be able to verify that the little girl was ever molested.

 

[Indy Gal]

I disagree. I think that is exactly what needs to happen with child molesters and rapists. I do not believe in rehabilitation of these types of people, and as long as they are alive they have the ability to kill the spirit of innocent people.

I am new here but have been reading websleuths for a long time. I agree with you. I cant count the times i have said that these kind of people need to be kept out of our neighborhoods. Since we cant lock them up for life, give them death. There is no rehabilition IMHO for these kind out people. It has been proven time and time again. I am not saying what he did was right or wrong, but if I put myself in his place i honestly cant say I wouldnt do the same thing. This poor little girl. I will be trying to start a poll on this subject Please vote.

 

[Paladin]

True!!! If they're already talking pleas, he's most likely not ever going to trial. He'll serve some time, but he's young. With time off for good behavior, it won't be a lengthy sentence. The fact that he not only killed a child molester, but that he's an attorney and can be an asset to the other inmates may even help his stay in prison be . . . well, as good as it can. He probably won't be a target for other inmates.

Heh, ever seen the show Oz? The attorney who went to jail for killing someone while driving drunk ended up a huge target and he himself became a hardened criminal.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

Heh, ever seen the show Oz? The attorney who went to jail for killing someone while for driving drunk ended up a huge target and he himself because a hardened criminal.

No, I never did. I've heard about that show though. I think this guy would be respected in prison simply because of the murder of a child molester. That's not to say that he won't have any problems though!!

 

[southcitymom]

Heh, ever seen the show Oz? The attorney who went to jail for killing someone while for driving drunk ended up a huge target and he himself because a hardened criminal.

Oz is a great show!

 

[jannuncutt]

I am anxious to hear from the wife.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

I am anxious to hear from the wife.

As am I. She's got to be freaking out. First she suspects her little girl was violated and now she's facing this. Poor woman.

 

[Paladin]

No, I never did. I've heard about that show though. I think this guy would be respected in prison simply because of the murder of a child molester. That's not to say that he won't have any problems though!!

Holy crap, where was my mind when I typed up that monstrosity of a sentence? Editing now...

 

[Jeana (DP)]

Holy crap, where was my mind when I typed up that monstrosity of a sentence? Editing now...

Not to worry. I'm the queen of the run on sentence. :innocent: