CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, deceased/not found, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #62

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  • #821
Possibilities of who the state might have left (some are long shots.) Who am I missing?

1. JFD housekeeper re: red bucket

2. JFD bank rep re: no bank activity after 5/23/19

3. JFT phone rep: re no phone activity after 5/24/19

4. 2008 Mercier bike photo

5. Weed St surveillance

6. Since MT's phone was excluded, somebody from car wash to verify they called MT's number and talked to a female (remembering a female voice part is a long shot since LE didn't get to the car wash until a couple of months later)

7. People's Bank ATM surveillance footage

8. Hutch Haines re BBQ

9. MT 3rd Interview

10. ME

11. Forensic anthropologist if hard white substance is biologic in nature

12. Somebody from the May 23rd dinner party

13. Forensic accountant re: FD financials

14. JL from Windsor Rod and Gun Club

15. LE who investigated Windsor Rod and Gun Club

16. KM

17. Timeline Witness
Wasn’t there some speculation that the two older boys would testify?
 
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  • #823
If it's needed to show an element of the crimes, it has to be.

But for their sake, unless they WANT to, I hope they don't have to testify. I can't imagine what they are going through. They were bystanders with no option to walk away. They lost nearly everything that money can't buy....and money can't buy the most important things. They have a lot: like their surviving family. They have emotional resources. So it's not like they can't get through this. But they lost so much. It shouldn't be like this for them.

MOO
 
  • #824
Good morning!
I believe she said it wasn’t working.
I keep laughing about this whole vacuum cleaner exchange with FD and MT.

I was waiting for her to simply tell FD to 'call the cleaning company" as I don't know how to even turn this thing on!

FD then says, "Why are you asking me?" "I don't clean"!

MOO
 
  • #825
Thank you for this perspective! I am one who found yesterday's presentation less than eye opening so it always helps to get a new perspective :)
MOO:

I agree that yesterday was a turning point for the trial, in that it honed in toward pinpointing MTs role in conspiracy.

Thus far we’ve seen hindering prosecution (with her lies to LE, alibi scripts) and tampering (with her DNA on trash bag, Starbucks trip, etc-more to come with the car wash) as well as motive (hateful sentiments for JFD, “2 years of hell in CT”).

But evidence of conspiracy- before or during the murder, not just helping with cleanup or misleading LE in its aftermath- hadn’t been established.

Yesterday, the state introduced evidence that laid the framework for conspiracy, which has been missing thus far (and is the most serious charge MT is faced with. Ie, potential for serious prison time).

What may have seemed like tedious repetition of line by line testimony about micro movements of FD phone around 4JC the morning of 5/24 (when FD was in NC, or at least not home as we will hear MT clearly say when interview #3 is introduced) and the fact that numerous calls and text messages- some persistent and repeated such as the text asking for a time to show a real estate client 80MS-went unopened, unread and unanswered, save for ONLY ONE CALL from Andreas consistent with the alibi script and repeated twice by MT in LE interviews-lays the foundation that the non-FD person who answered that call to set the alibi during the time FD was in NC murdering Jennifer was actively participating at the time of the murder, and that these actions with the phone had been planned and choreographed in advance. Conspiracy.

As a little bonus thrown in, we saw the grossly visual “anything is better than spending the rest of my life with my wife” meme sent to FDs phone by Andreas during the murder, and the MT message to the large group chat that she was naked (with tongue out) the afternoon of the murder during which JFDs blood soaked clothes were cut off and removed from her body. While not necessarily proving anything, these add to the disturbing visuals in the jurors minds and if not directly connecting dots at least visually coloring the dots in.

Hopefully on Tuesday we will have the sturdy John Kimball back on the witness stand to walk us through MTs 3rd interview where she admits she lied repeatedly to LE in previous interviews, that FD was not home that morning, and that SHE in fact was the one that answered that ONE phone call the morning of 5/24 at the time the murder was taking place in NC (while all other calls and messages went ignored and the phone moved subtly around the interior of 4JC and up and down stairs.)

Hopefully to rub it in, the state will ask Kimball on the stand: “Did MT at any point in time, during this interview or at any other time up until now, say that she answered any other phone call or text on 5/24 between 5am and 1:33pm on FDs phone?”
“Was the FORE office where MT said she answered FDs phone up a flight of stairs from the rest of the house?”

People, be patient. Yesterday’s testimony might have seemed tedious and boring, but it takes time to build a bonfire and carefully put each stick in its correct place. May the state on Tuesday strike the match that will send all of MTs lies and the beige facade of innocence she’s trying to hide behind up in flames.



PS: does anyone remember after the murder while LE were searching MIRA and MT/FD were barred from contact, MT would post pics of asado al palo on her IG? IIRC she even posted one on JFDs birthday.
Maybe, like so much of her involvement in this case, it is now coming back to haunt her…apologies for more stomach turning visuals (courtesy of MT).
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  • #826
Possibilities of who the state might have left (some are long shots.) Who am I missing?

1. JFD housekeeper re: red bucket

2. JFD bank rep re: no bank activity after 5/23/19

3. JFT phone rep: re no phone activity after 5/24/19

4. 2008 Mercier bike photo

5. Weed St surveillance

6. Since MT's phone was excluded, somebody from car wash to verify they called MT's number and talked to a female (remembering a female voice part is a long shot since LE didn't get to the car wash until a couple of months later)

7. People's Bank ATM surveillance footage

8. Hutch Haines re BBQ

9. MT 3rd Interview

10. ME

11. Forensic anthropologist if hard white substance is biologic in nature

12. Somebody from the May 23rd dinner party

13. Forensic accountant re: FD financials

14. JL from Windsor Rod and Gun Club

15. LE who investigated Windsor Rod and Gun Club

16. KM

17. Timeline Witness
Someone from the trash burning facility.
 
  • #827
MOO:

I agree that yesterday was a turning point for the trial, in that it honed in toward pinpointing MTs role in conspiracy.

Thus far we’ve seen hindering prosecution (with her lies to LE, alibi scripts) and tampering (with her DNA on trash bag, Starbucks trip, etc-more to come with the car wash) as well as motive (hateful sentiments for JFD, “2 years of hell in CT”).

But evidence of conspiracy- before or during the murder, not just helping with cleanup or misleading LE in its aftermath- hadn’t been established.

Yesterday, the state introduced evidence that laid the framework for conspiracy, which has been missing thus far (and is the most serious charge MT is faced with. Ie, potential for serious prison time).

What may have seemed like tedious repetition of line by line testimony about micro movements of FD phone around 4JC the morning of 5/24 (when FD was in NC, or at least not home as we will hear MT clearly say when interview #3 is introduced) and the fact that numerous calls and text messages- some persistent and repeated such as the text asking for a time to show a real estate client 80MS-went unopened, unread and unanswered, save for ONLY ONE CALL from Andreas consistent with the alibi script and repeated twice by MT in LE interviews-lays the foundation that the non-FD person who answered that call to set the alibi during the time FD was in NC murdering Jennifer was actively participating at the time of the murder, and that these actions with the phone had been planned and choreographed in advance. Conspiracy.

As a little bonus thrown in, we saw the grossly visual “anything is better than spending the rest of my life with my wife” meme sent to FDs phone by Andreas during the murder, and the MT message to the large group chat that she was naked (with tongue out) the afternoon of the murder during which JFDs blood soaked clothes were cut off and removed from her body. While not necessarily proving anything, these add to the disturbing visuals in the jurors minds and if not directly connecting dots at least visually coloring the dots in.

Hopefully on Tuesday we will have the sturdy John Kimball back on the witness stand to walk us through MTs 3rd interview where she admits she lied repeatedly to LE in previous interviews, that FD was not home that morning, and that SHE in fact was the one that answered that ONE phone call the morning of 5/24 at the time the murder was taking place in NC (while all other calls and messages went ignored and the phone moved subtly around the interior of 4JC and up and down stairs.)

Hopefully to rub it in, the state will ask Kimball on the stand: “Did MT at any point in time, during this interview or at any other time up until now, say that she answered any other phone call or text on 5/24 between 5am and 1:33pm on FDs phone?”
“Was the FORE office where MT said she answered FDs phone up a flight of stairs from the rest of the house?”

People, be patient. Yesterday’s testimony might have seemed tedious and boring, but it takes time to build a bonfire and carefully put each stick in its correct place. May the state on Tuesday strike the match that will send all of MTs lies and the beige facade of innocence she’s trying to hide behind up in flames.



PS: does anyone remember after the murder while LE were searching MIRA and MT/FD were barred from contact, MT would post pics of asado al palo on her IG? IIRC she even posted one on JFDs birthday.
Maybe, like so much of her involvement in this case, it is now coming back to haunt her…apologies for more stomach turning visuals (courtesy of MT).
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Great well thought out/ on target post @sleuth66 IMO
 
  • #828
MOO:

I agree that yesterday was a turning point for the trial, in that it honed in toward pinpointing MTs role in conspiracy.

Thus far we’ve seen hindering prosecution (with her lies to LE, alibi scripts) and tampering (with her DNA on trash bag, Starbucks trip, etc-more to come with the car wash) as well as motive (hateful sentiments for JFD, “2 years of hell in CT”).

But evidence of conspiracy- before or during the murder, not just helping with cleanup or misleading LE in its aftermath- hadn’t been established.

Yesterday, the state introduced evidence that laid the framework for conspiracy, which has been missing thus far (and is the most serious charge MT is faced with. Ie, potential for serious prison time).

What may have seemed like tedious repetition of line by line testimony about micro movements of FD phone around 4JC the morning of 5/24 (when FD was in NC, or at least not home as we will hear MT clearly say when interview #3 is introduced) and the fact that numerous calls and text messages- some persistent and repeated such as the text asking for a time to show a real estate client 80MS-went unopened, unread and unanswered, save for ONLY ONE CALL from Andreas consistent with the alibi script and repeated twice by MT in LE interviews-lays the foundation that the non-FD person who answered that call to set the alibi during the time FD was in NC murdering Jennifer was actively participating at the time of the murder, and that these actions with the phone had been planned and choreographed in advance. Conspiracy.

As a little bonus thrown in, we saw the grossly visual “anything is better than spending the rest of my life with my wife” meme sent to FDs phone by Andreas during the murder, and the MT message to the large group chat that she was naked (with tongue out) the afternoon of the murder during which JFDs blood soaked clothes were cut off and removed from her body. While not necessarily proving anything, these add to the disturbing visuals in the jurors minds and if not directly connecting dots at least visually coloring the dots in.

Hopefully on Tuesday we will have the sturdy John Kimball back on the witness stand to walk us through MTs 3rd interview where she admits she lied repeatedly to LE in previous interviews, that FD was not home that morning, and that SHE in fact was the one that answered that ONE phone call the morning of 5/24 at the time the murder was taking place in NC (while all other calls and messages went ignored and the phone moved subtly around the interior of 4JC and up and down stairs.)

Hopefully to rub it in, the state will ask Kimball on the stand: “Did MT at any point in time, during this interview or at any other time up until now, say that she answered any other phone call or text on 5/24 between 5am and 1:33pm on FDs phone?”
“Was the FORE office where MT said she answered FDs phone up a flight of stairs from the rest of the house?”

People, be patient. Yesterday’s testimony might have seemed tedious and boring, but it takes time to build a bonfire and carefully put each stick in its correct place. May the state on Tuesday strike the match that will send all of MTs lies and the beige facade of innocence she’s trying to hide behind up in flames.



PS: does anyone remember after the murder while LE were searching MIRA and MT/FD were barred from contact, MT would post pics of asado al palo on her IG? IIRC she even posted one on JFDs birthday.
Maybe, like so much of her involvement in this case, it is now coming back to haunt her…apologies for more stomach turning visuals (courtesy of MT).
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Ah yes....the roasting animal pictures that went on for awhile iirc. That is quite the 'blast' from the past! I think we were next treated the animal rugs for a period of time too..... Had totally forgotten about these images.

I don't think it was ever clear exactly what she was referring to with the fire and animal on spit imagery and the speculation ran the gamut from the mundane to the preverse iirc. Many thought it referred to JF too but I was never sure. Maybe it was as simple as the signal to tell FD it was day for "netflix and chill"? IDK....

I know that the animal being roasted in your image isn't a chicken but I think the funniest answer someone posted ages ago was that MT was sending 'Smoke signal" to FD for their ongoing hookups and the image was a reference to 'roasted chicken'. Whole thing was hilarious as LE knew the couple were still hooking up and I don't think they ever did anything about it either.

FD dumped her shortly after all these photos were shown I think and Anna Curry moved in to support FD in the manner to which he had become accustomed! I do think that FD really was a 'pimp' at heart as it seemed he always wanted others to do the work while he just 'supervised'!

Think this was also the period when MT alleged called someone in Greece (always unclear but it might have been Rena or her daughter) and said that, "...she still loved FD....". I mean, can you imagine being told by LE that you cannot see you lover for very obvious reasons and yet you still are proclaiming your love?

What a totally twisted 'love' affair was FD and MT....

MOO
 
  • #829
MOO:

I agree that yesterday was a turning point for the trial, in that it honed in toward pinpointing MTs role in conspiracy.

Thus far we’ve seen hindering prosecution (with her lies to LE, alibi scripts) and tampering (with her DNA on trash bag, Starbucks trip, etc-more to come with the car wash) as well as motive (hateful sentiments for JFD, “2 years of hell in CT”).

But evidence of conspiracy- before or during the murder, not just helping with cleanup or misleading LE in its aftermath- hadn’t been established.

Yesterday, the state introduced evidence that laid the framework for conspiracy, which has been missing thus far (and is the most serious charge MT is faced with. Ie, potential for serious prison time).

What may have seemed like tedious repetition of line by line testimony about micro movements of FD phone around 4JC the morning of 5/24 (when FD was in NC, or at least not home as we will hear MT clearly say when interview #3 is introduced) and the fact that numerous calls and text messages- some persistent and repeated such as the text asking for a time to show a real estate client 80MS-went unopened, unread and unanswered, save for ONLY ONE CALL from Andreas consistent with the alibi script and repeated twice by MT in LE interviews-lays the foundation that the non-FD person who answered that call to set the alibi during the time FD was in NC murdering Jennifer was actively participating at the time of the murder, and that these actions with the phone had been planned and choreographed in advance. Conspiracy.

As a little bonus thrown in, we saw the grossly visual “anything is better than spending the rest of my life with my wife” meme sent to FDs phone by Andreas during the murder, and the MT message to the large group chat that she was naked (with tongue out) the afternoon of the murder during which JFDs blood soaked clothes were cut off and removed from her body. While not necessarily proving anything, these add to the disturbing visuals in the jurors minds and if not directly connecting dots at least visually coloring the dots in.

Hopefully on Tuesday we will have the sturdy John Kimball back on the witness stand to walk us through MTs 3rd interview where she admits she lied repeatedly to LE in previous interviews, that FD was not home that morning, and that SHE in fact was the one that answered that ONE phone call the morning of 5/24 at the time the murder was taking place in NC (while all other calls and messages went ignored and the phone moved subtly around the interior of 4JC and up and down stairs.)

Hopefully to rub it in, the state will ask Kimball on the stand: “Did MT at any point in time, during this interview or at any other time up until now, say that she answered any other phone call or text on 5/24 between 5am and 1:33pm on FDs phone?”
“Was the FORE office where MT said she answered FDs phone up a flight of stairs from the rest of the house?”

People, be patient. Yesterday’s testimony might have seemed tedious and boring, but it takes time to build a bonfire and carefully put each stick in its correct place. May the state on Tuesday strike the match that will send all of MTs lies and the beige facade of innocence she’s trying to hide behind up in flames.



PS: does anyone remember after the murder while LE were searching MIRA and MT/FD were barred from contact, MT would post pics of asado al palo on her IG? IIRC she even posted one on JFDs birthday.
Maybe, like so much of her involvement in this case, it is now coming back to haunt her…apologies for more stomach turning visuals (courtesy of MT).
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I had forgotten those pictures she was posting. Yes, they were horrid and imo they reflect how smug she felt at first. The prize was within her reach and she was on top the world. Something to celebrate, something to get naked for. She is truly naked now, totally exposed as the vile and repulsive woman she is. This trial is rightfully wearing her and her family down. Their appeals for funding are pathetic and may the lack of enthusiasm to help show them that the world has no sympathy for a gold-digging nothing. Let their jealousy of the Farber wealth eat at them for the rest of their days. I truly believe they cannot afford this case and that they definitely can’t sustain the expense of any type of appeal.
 
  • #830
MOO:

I agree that yesterday was a turning point for the trial, in that it honed in toward pinpointing MTs role in conspiracy.

Thus far we’ve seen hindering prosecution (with her lies to LE, alibi scripts) and tampering (with her DNA on trash bag, Starbucks trip, etc-more to come with the car wash) as well as motive (hateful sentiments for JFD, “2 years of hell in CT”).

But evidence of conspiracy- before or during the murder, not just helping with cleanup or misleading LE in its aftermath- hadn’t been established.

Yesterday, the state introduced evidence that laid the framework for conspiracy, which has been missing thus far (and is the most serious charge MT is faced with. Ie, potential for serious prison time).

What may have seemed like tedious repetition of line by line testimony about micro movements of FD phone around 4JC the morning of 5/24 (when FD was in NC, or at least not home as we will hear MT clearly say when interview #3 is introduced) and the fact that numerous calls and text messages- some persistent and repeated such as the text asking for a time to show a real estate client 80MS-went unopened, unread and unanswered, save for ONLY ONE CALL from Andreas consistent with the alibi script and repeated twice by MT in LE interviews-lays the foundation that the non-FD person who answered that call to set the alibi during the time FD was in NC murdering Jennifer was actively participating at the time of the murder, and that these actions with the phone had been planned and choreographed in advance. Conspiracy.

As a little bonus thrown in, we saw the grossly visual “anything is better than spending the rest of my life with my wife” meme sent to FDs phone by Andreas during the murder, and the MT message to the large group chat that she was naked (with tongue out) the afternoon of the murder during which JFDs blood soaked clothes were cut off and removed from her body. While not necessarily proving anything, these add to the disturbing visuals in the jurors minds and if not directly connecting dots at least visually coloring the dots in.

Hopefully on Tuesday we will have the sturdy John Kimball back on the witness stand to walk us through MTs 3rd interview where she admits she lied repeatedly to LE in previous interviews, that FD was not home that morning, and that SHE in fact was the one that answered that ONE phone call the morning of 5/24 at the time the murder was taking place in NC (while all other calls and messages went ignored and the phone moved subtly around the interior of 4JC and up and down stairs.)

Hopefully to rub it in, the state will ask Kimball on the stand: “Did MT at any point in time, during this interview or at any other time up until now, say that she answered any other phone call or text on 5/24 between 5am and 1:33pm on FDs phone?”
“Was the FORE office where MT said she answered FDs phone up a flight of stairs from the rest of the house?”

People, be patient. Yesterday’s testimony might have seemed tedious and boring, but it takes time to build a bonfire and carefully put each stick in its correct place. May the state on Tuesday strike the match that will send all of MTs lies and the beige facade of innocence she’s trying to hide behind up in flames.



PS: does anyone remember after the murder while LE were searching MIRA and MT/FD were barred from contact, MT would post pics of asado al palo on her IG? IIRC she even posted one on JFDs birthday.
Maybe, like so much of her involvement in this case, it is now coming back to haunt her…apologies for more stomach turning visuals (courtesy of MT).
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Oh, yes-I remember when she did this, especially on Jennifer’s birthday. Deliberately, and inappropriately posted. Clearly showing her still burning hatred of JFD. How does she, or any member of her disgusting family, really think this makes them look?
 
  • #831
Timeline report 5/29
FD's 2nd phone

Calls from MT
Deleted messages -- witness cannot determine how it came to be deleted

JS objects to referring to deleted messages as deleted messages
BBM…
Bwahaahahagahahaha!!!

I’m behind, catching up now. This made me spit my Diet Coke! It’s right up there with his objection to a sandwich.
 
  • #832
Another MT trial watcher interpreted the “I’m naked” & tongue out as mocking JF …
that MT knew JF’s clothes had been removed and was “ha ha” - JF dead & naked … ha ha.

Had not occurred to me .. wonder if jury sees it this way
 
  • #833
Another MT trial watcher interpreted the “I’m naked” & tongue out as mocking JF …
that MT knew JF’s clothes had been removed and was “ha ha” - JF dead & naked … ha ha.

Had not occurred to me .. wonder if jury sees it this way
OMG
 
  • #834
  • #835
Not dissing on the poster.
I meant a juror.
 
  • #836
What was the story with JFD’s phone connecting with the Suburban? Was it her’s, in New Canaan, or fD’s in Farmington?
 
  • #837
What was the story with JFD’s phone connecting with the Suburban? Was it her’s, in New Canaan, or fD’s in Farmington?
Yeah....this needs to be answered - or am I missing something?
 
  • #838
Another MT trial watcher interpreted the “I’m naked” & tongue out as mocking JF …
that MT knew JF’s clothes had been removed and was “ha ha” - JF dead & naked … ha ha.

Had not occurred to me .. wonder if jury sees it this way
I'm very curious to know who was on that group chat. If just FD and KM, or other co-conspirators, that could be the case. Its a very strange thing to send in the middle of the afternoon on a group chat.
 
  • #839
I'm very curious to know who was on that group chat. If just FD and KM, or other co-conspirators, that could be the case. Its a very strange thing to send in the middle of the afternoon on a group chat.
Couldn’t they tell who was on it?
 
  • #840
Couldn’t they tell who was on it?
Wasn't clear if they could or chose not to.
You speculated about KM. How about Andreas?
IMO, when all is said and done, the jury will give short shrift to the infidelity on her part and focus on the conspiracy.
 
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