GUILTY CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, deceased/not found, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #71

[Seattle1]

That's a possibility. But the thing I keep wondering about was:
What was AF telling MT at length not long before the report flashing happened late on that trial day, and that MT was listening to so intently before she began to smile and seem so delighted? If it was a piece of advice she was giving her, AF couldn't have told her at lunch or the last break?

MT long ago showed us her true colors, and I can't imagine representing somebody like her all the way to trial! IMO, MT was perfectly engaged during her police interviews because she believes she's at her best among males -- especially men in power. Here, this could not have gone better for the prosecution's case.

In contrast, fast forward to MT and AF at the defense table at trial and MT's body language when seated next to AF clearly shows MT feels superior to AF in every way-- mentally and physically!

IMO, I think MT views AF as just an accessory of JLS, and nothing else. They're not friends, AF's beneath her. And we know they stuck with JLS the duration all because Mama T felt dominance over JLS! At one point, studying the then Twitter identifiers, I even believe they had his office tweeting under MT's profile. No, it's not illegal under freedom of speech, and I can't prove it, but it was just one of many things I witnessed during this case to label JLS bottom feeder shameless. JMO

 

[Seattle1]

JLS, and Mamma and Papa T headed to lunch on Feb 15 -- just before MT plays loose in Court in the afternoon with the sealed report. And they love Jon.

 

[BJarv]

I wonder if Judge Blawie read the report.

My recollection is that Judge Blawie did read it (he did the initial ruling on providing the discredit report to Schoenhorn) and Judge Randolph had to read it as there was a pre trial hearing on it and he had to rule on its use in the trial.

FWIW I fully blame both of these Judges for giving zero consideration to the Victims in this case and how the misuse of a discredited report could/did impact them.

Judge Randolph in particular was well aware of Schoenhorn's antics of leaking to the Press and also leaking via his motions. Judge Randolph imo did zero to stop Schoenhorn and imo the Randolph decision on how to handle the report in the context of the trial made for a difficult situation with the jury. I'll leave it at that but I do believe that as it relates to the discredited report and its handling (or mishandling) that Judge Randolph was negligent and highly irresponsible.

Neither Judge imo held any of the trial participants to the original standard for the report handling laid out by Judge Heller in Family Court. Shame also on Judge Heller for not standing up to her peers to maintain her order when she saw report details leaked to the Press with the final indignity being Michelle Troconis displaying the report on her laptop in Court.

Simply no words for any of this but it all gets back to the Judges not standing behind their orders and CT attorneys such as Jon Schoenhorn and Audrey Felson who imo should have lost their licenses to practice years ago as they simply do not follow the rules of Professional conduct.

Shame also on Atty's Manning and McGuinnis for NOT demanding that the Judges stand behind their orders regarding the report handling and also not demanding a 'gag order' be imposed to protect murder victims and their families.

MOO

 

[BJarv]

What about violation of HIPAA federal law re privacy of medical records? Are the judges or the State's Atty's Office obligated to report it to federal authorities? Here's a news report this a.m. re folks in VA office improperly accessing health records of VP candidates Vance and Walz.

VA staff got into Vance, Walz medical files, sparking investigation (msn.com)

“…Looking at another person’s health information without authorization is a violation of the 1996 Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA). Unauthorized access or disclosure beyond what is permitted are the most common types of HIPAA violations, which carry criminal penalties of up to $50,000 and up to a year of imprisonment.

Security breaches in health records occur frequently as the health-care industry is exposed to increasingly sophisticated cyberattacks. But criminal prosecutions in individual cases are rare.”

I believe the State does have the obligation to follow up on these types of violations but I'm not an attorney and given that the State didn't show evidence of holding any participant in the Troconis case to the standards of the law on disclosure, I'm not sure they saw it as their job (ditto for CT law enforcement who had to be aware of all that was going on regarding this issue). At any point some member of law enforcement or the judiciary or the state could have admonished Michelle Troconis or her attorney for her comments in the interviews regarding the report but they didn't do this. The only person that was on point on this issue imo was Atty Bowman. But, to see a room full of LE not speak up to stop conversation told me everything I needed to know about how much they cared about the issue.

FWIW its clear to me that the State doesn't believe it has any such obligation on the issue as the Jennifer Dulos medical invoice is STILL present on the Instagram of Michelle Troconis. It also speaks volumes to me that the State couldn't even quickly dispatch the Michelle Troconis contempt charge in Court when the entire event was captured on video and the facts of the case imo are indisputable. Just off the top of my head I can recall 4 examples of Jon Schoenhorn going to the Stamford Advocate using confidential medical and family court information (same for Pattis and Rose) and leaking. The Judges also could have demanded seals on exhibits containing sensitive and personal or HIPPA protected information and didn't. So, we sadly imo witnessed a massive fail on many fronts to protect a deceased victim and her children.

MOO

 

[BJarv]

Thanks for your rant. So well said. CT used to be known as the land of steady habits. In the past decades it's become the land of government subterfuge. According to the first news reports, t he State's Atty's office did examine the metadata of the report to authenticate that it was the report in question. Possibly they did find out from whence it came to MT's laptop--but are covering it up? And the judiciary is pushing for a quiet plead deal on the contempt charge to make it go away?

Yes, the State assigned a very junior attorney to the case and the Judge himself seemed to be pushing for a plea and allowing the endless continuances. Judge Hernandez is supposed to be a no nonsense old style CT Judge but sadly on this particular case its not happening imo. Most Judges would have not permitted multiple continuances on an 'open and shut' case as its a waste of resources and the system is underresourced. I do wonder what else is going on behind the scenes and if what is happening with the case is to stop a full scale release of the report as part of discovery? If so, then why not simply seal up the case and impose a gag?

I've given up trying to understand CT Judges as sadly what has happened over the past 10 years has been the infiltration of NY Style Judicial and Prison reform in line with the political evolution of the State imo as a classic 'blue' state. Layer in an AG and States Atty (or Gov. Lamont for that matter) that is disconnected from the Judiciary (and see zero wrong with anything) and I don't see anything surprising about why we have seen what we have. FWIW I was listening to a case a few weeks ago where a mother whose young daughter was assaulted walking to school and the perp was released on $500 bond with no restrictions. This woman was distraught and yelled out in Court with her anger and anguish that this repeat offender was being put back into the community to attack other children and the JUDGE FINED THE MOTHER! Welcome to CT folks with its broken system and system participants that simply go through the motions of doing their job.

Gov. Lamont in particular has been touting 'low crime' in CT now for years when the locals and even the blindfolded local press reporting on local crime knew he was spouting lies and misinformation as the situation on the ground shows an explosion of all types of crime across the state, including in Fairfield County. The recently released 'REVISED' FBI CRIME Stats tell a possibly more accurate story that show clearly Gov Lamont has been lying about CT Crime Stats for years. Layer in the fact that DV in particular is grossly underreported (as is crime in general) and the situation becomes even more dire. Layer in further AG Tong who has done zero to make the citizens of CT feel safer or even empower LE to do their jobs and Ditto for the States Attorney whose name I don't even recall as they have been absolutely absent since Atty Colagelo was forced to resign. LE knows the Judiciary don't have their backs and they also know that corrupt attorneys such as Pattis and Schoenhorn will never be held to account for their behaviour or required to follow the simple rules of professional conduct. Never forget that Pattis, Schoenhorn and Bowman SAT ON CASE EVIDENCE in the Troconis trial for over a year, saw nothing wrong with doing so and NOT ONE JUDGE DID ANYTHING TO IMPOSE CONSEQUENCES. Yep, its the way of the world in CT.

But, its the Judges not supporting LE efforts to investigate and prosecute crime that to me is the tip off that the overall situation is so much worse than any of us can even imagine. Just look at the Dulos case and how io it was quite clear much earlier than the warrant (first one for FD or MT) was presented that probably cause for search and detention of the parties existed and HOW LONG it took CSP to prepare idk 20+ page document complete with images and a virtual roadmap of the eventual prosecution! How much evidence could have been preserved and found and presented at trial had CSP been able to access FD and MT weeks earlier than they did? Could Jennifer body have been found if LE had been able to access the residences and properties and vehicles of FD rather than what was seen? Judge Randolph himself said he didn't see 'exigent circumstances' and so tossed the MT cell phone!

MOO

 

[BJarv]

She could have stolen it, but who could she have stolen it from…only Dulos, I think, and he wasn’t supposed to have it, either. I just don’t understand why these lawyers are being protected. Professional courstesy? Probably.

MIchelle and Fotis (and imo Mami Troconis) all read and discussed the report and most likely there were multiple copies made long before Schoenhorn requested a copy from Judge Blawie. Horn couldn't use the discredited report in its copied and illegal form and even he was smart enough to know that. Judge Blawie made a grave error early in the trial and frankly at that point Judge Heller should have intervened to protect the report that was part of her court record and was sealed. No words for Judge Randolph either on the situation as he didn't stand behind the order of Judge Blawie on the report and didnt impose consequences on Horn or Mini Horn for their many infractions related to the report during the trial that he was responsible for.

Remember, Michelle and Fotis went to the psychologist together and the report was discussed. I've long believed that Michelle gave it to Mami at that point as my speculation was that Mami helped Michelle and Fotis craft their questions to the psychologist. I also believe that Kent Mawhinney had a copy or saw the report too as he was the one that drafted the protective order that Michelle filed with the Farmington PD.

I wonder at what point the report was digitised and by whom? Did Michelle or Fotis simply do a quick scan on their phone and then email or text around the report? I would think that all this could be established by forensic examination. But the original MT LE interviews establish clearly that MT had the report and was well aware of its contents and had been aware of it going back to the time of Family Court proceedings as it seemed their plan was to weaponise its contents against JF as part of their campaign to torture and destablise her and the relationship she had with her children (the two older boys in particular).

MOO

MOO

 

[BJarv]

On the computers the parties use at trial, do they have internet access?

Yes, I think we researched this issue when we looked at the computer policy in Court. The Judge has broad discretion on providing computer and internet access to defendants and Judge did remove MT computer access after the contempt charge. I would also think that the attorney's are accessing servers to view documents during trial in real time.

 

[BJarv]

A book on Family Court which I believe includes details on high conflict divorce cases, including Dulos v Dulos. I haven't tracked down the book yet but its on my reading list as this topic, particularly in CT imo, is long overdue for more public outcry and significant reform.

Two Connecticut women author book on the “family court underworld”

Read More at Inside Investigator >>

insideinvestigator.org

Quotes from article:

"It is just one of multiple such events being held across the state by Dr. Christine Cocchiola, a professor and expert in coercive control, and Amy Polacko, an award-winning journalist and divorce coach, to promote their book, Framed: Women in the Family Court Underworld, which compiles 22 stories from women around the world on how the family court system was weaponized by their abusive ex-husbands and partners to continue exerting control over their former spouses".

Both Cocchiola and Polacko, who describe themselves on the back cover as “survivors of domestic abuse,” said the book was partially born out of their own experiences in the family court system, something echoed by many other women in attendance that night.

“My own experience in family court was truly the Twilight Zone,” Polacko said. “I experienced court officials bragging about how much money they were making, demeaning me, and certainly the other people, and when I experienced that for the first time, I thought this can’t be happening, this can’t be our system in America.”

“When you experience family court, you can’t look away,” Polacko continued. “You have to reach back and help those who are still in it. As a divorce coach and a journalist, I want to shine a light on this. Everyone thinks this won’t happen to them until it does.”

Cocchiola says they chose the title “Framed,” to paint a picture of what happens to women when they come into family court with abuse allegations – that they are not believed and, in turn, are portrayed to be “the problem.”

“When a victim comes forward, she’s often disbelieved, and the moment she discloses that abuse, often she gets framed as the abuser, as the problem,” Cocchiola said. “Overall, there is a huge problem that people are only interested in capitalizing on the vulnerability of people.”

“There is a belief in the judicial system that women lie about abuse a lot, which is not true,” Cocchiola said. “The bottom line is the patriarchal norms that are set up in society and the systems that align in that patriarchy, and that is what’s happening in family court.”

There has been a growing chorus in recent years of women saying the family court system is ignoring domestic abuse and allowing abusive ex-partners to use the court system to exact revenge, dragging out divorce and child custody cases over years, with hundreds of motions filed.

The costs of these high conflict cases can wander into the millions and leave one party or the other destitute and having to represent themselves in court because they can no longer afford an attorney. In these authors’ view – and in the view of many divorced men, as well – the only winners in these situations are judges, attorneys and court-appointed experts, therapists, and psychologists who charge tens of thousands of dollars for their services.

“Abusers weaponize our court system and they’re allowed to,” Polacko said. “The people involved are making so much money, what is their incentive to stop? And then there is a deep-rooted misogyny, and that was shocking to me years ago when I first experienced the system.”

In one story contained in the book, “Lucy” describes how her parents essentially emptied their retirement savings, spending $600,000 for her legal fees in her custody battle: “But so much time has passed that I wonder if there will be any kids at the end of this. They are quickly approaching adulthood, and there is no end in sight for the divorce.”

Women like Cocchiola and Polacko, along with several other attendees of their book launch party, have joined with hundreds more in online groups to support each other as they go through the family court system, offering advice, and court-watching to bear witness to what they say is judicial bias and a willful disregard of domestic abuse allegations.

Some family court issues have come to national attention recently, resulting in new laws, both in Connecticut and in other states.

In 2021, Connecticut passed Jennifer’s Law to define coercive control – one partner controlling the other through threats, intimidation, and finances but without physical harm – as a form of domestic abuse following the murder of Jennifer Magnano by her ex-husband and the disappearance and presumed murder of Jennifer Dulos, a case that gained nationwide attention.

A series of articles by ProPublica examining reunification camps in Colorado in which children are forced to attend a camp with a parent they are resistant to seeing – sometimes due to abuse allegations – resulted in a state law that limits the use of those camps.

In one story contained in their book, “Victoria” describes how a reunification expert hired by her ex-husband was allowed to testify in court that she had “severely alienated” the children from their father and that the only remedy would be the children attending a reunification camp run by that very same psychologist, who was no longer licensed.

 

[BJarv]

A 6 part podcast about JFD and the Dulos/Troconis case:

Killing Time The Podcast

killingtimethepodcast.com

FWIW I just started listening to this podcast and haven't made it through all 6 episodes. Some basic fact checking issues imo in Episode 1 but otherwise so far seems on point. WIll report back after I've finished all the episodes. FWIW it really bothers me that so few reporters or even reposters have bothered to fully document the personal history of Michelle Troconis and her family and still get basic details wrong. I guess we are living in the times of the implosion of MSM and the slow death of investigative journalism.

Description of podcast from the website:

Murder in the Morning​

The Jennifer Farber Dulos Story​

Our series debut is the story of the 2019 disappearance and murder of wealthy Connecticut mother of five, Jennifer Farber Dulos. Jennifer’s parents are well known in New York City’s philanthropic circles and her aunt and uncle created the Liz Claiborne fashion empire. She turned down a promising writing career to marry a Connecticut luxury home builder and to raise a family.

The story is still making headlines as Jennifer’s body has not been found. Her estranged husband, Fotis Dulos, the prime suspect in the case, committed suicide rather than face trial. He died taking the secret of what became of Jennifer Farber Dulos.

Pamela K. Browne and Cynthia Fagen are award-winning veteran journalists who have covered complicated crime, litigation stories, and investigations during their extensive careers in print, television news and long-form documentaries.


Listen to the podcast

 

[Megnut]

MIchelle and Fotis (and imo Mami Troconis) all read and discussed the report and most likely there were multiple copies made long before Schoenhorn requested a copy from Judge Blawie. Horn couldn't use the discredited report in its copied and illegal form and even he was smart enough to know that. Judge Blawie made a grave error early in the trial and frankly at that point Judge Heller should have intervened to protect the report that was part of her court record and was sealed. No words for Judge Randolph either on the situation as he didn't stand behind the order of Judge Blawie on the report and didnt impose consequences on Horn or Mini Horn for their many infractions related to the report during the trial that he was responsible for.

Remember, Michelle and Fotis went to the psychologist together and the report was discussed. I've long believed that Michelle gave it to Mami at that point as my speculation was that Mami helped Michelle and Fotis craft their questions to the psychologist. I also believe that Kent Mawhinney had a copy or saw the report too as he was the one that drafted the protective order that Michelle filed with the Farmington PD.

I wonder at what point the report was digitised and by whom? Did Michelle or Fotis simply do a quick scan on their phone and then email or text around the report? I would think that all this could be established by forensic examination. But the original MT LE interviews establish clearly that MT had the report and was well aware of its contents and had been aware of it going back to the time of Family Court proceedings as it seemed their plan was to weaponise its contents against JF as part of their campaign to torture and destablise her and the relationship she had with her children (the two older boys in particular).

MOO

MOO

Just a quite footnote: I think MT burned documents and plans and the Herman report. She missed that last copy. It is my opinion that, after LE took it into evidence, FD, MT, and anyT's no longer had a physical copy of the report. They regurgitated it from memory often but did not have the text, until, after a lively tete a tete with Atty Felsen, suddenly the moment had arrived for the great reveal. MT, lighting it up on her tablet. She was probably giddy with anticipation. I do wonder if MT was in possession at that moment of the entire sealed report or just four pages of it. MT did not do this on her own. But then, she's intimately familiar with conspiracy to crime.

NO ONE should skate on this breach.

JMO

 

[Deleted member 229974]

Yes @pernickety ….. and the only thing IMO that could be any worse, is if for some reason there is belief that it is somehow up to the estate of JF to press for conformance with judicial requirements. That would be horrid if the case. A contempt citation was issued against the convicted felon! And those watching the trial all saw the offense.

As you note too…… why isn’t / aren’t some investigative journalists on this? Talk about ‘low hanging fruit’ IMO. IANAL. Something is up IMO. MOO

I’ve been absent from this never ending horror story for a while and yet it’s still dragging on! I still think about Jennifer’s family and hope that, at least her children don’t torture themselves by following the antics of MT and her crew. But at the same time, I do wonder if her mother, Gloria
hasn’t been following all along. I know I would. That being said, could Gloria do anything legally about the suspicious circumstances regarding
that sealed document and how MT and her legal team are trying to use that at her contempt hearing?

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

I’ve been absent from this never ending horror story for a while and yet it’s still dragging on! I still think about Jennifer’s family and hope that, at least her children don’t torture themselves by following the antics of MT and her crew. But at the same time, I do wonder if her mother, Gloria
hasn’t been following all along. I know I would. That being said, could Gloria do anything legally about the suspicious circumstances regarding
that sealed document and how MT and her legal team are trying to use that at her contempt hearing?

I am not sure @MollyDDD …. and IANAL but that does sound like a good idea. But as you note, it would be up to the family and the estate and their attorneys I would think? And if the court allows comments during the proceedings? And would a so called agreement between the convicted felon and the court preclude that?

It is so unfortunate that the spectre of this supposedly sealed and confidential report continues to haunt this matter.

And IMO shame on JS and AF and the continued references to it in the convicted felon’s trial. And for the court allowing it and the courts not taking IMO more swift and convincing action on the display of it and contempt for its sealed nature not respected. MOO

 

[Jmoose]

A book on Family Court which I believe includes details on high conflict divorce cases, including Dulos v Dulos. I haven't tracked down the book yet but its on my reading list as this topic, particularly in CT imo, is long overdue for more public outcry and significant reform.

Two Connecticut women author book on the “family court underworld”

Read More at Inside Investigator >>

insideinvestigator.org

Quotes from article:

"It is just one of multiple such events being held across the state by Dr. Christine Cocchiola, a professor and expert in coercive control, and Amy Polacko, an award-winning journalist and divorce coach, to promote their book, Framed: Women in the Family Court Underworld, which compiles 22 stories from women around the world on how the family court system was weaponized by their abusive ex-husbands and partners to continue exerting control over their former spouses".

Both Cocchiola and Polacko, who describe themselves on the back cover as “survivors of domestic abuse,” said the book was partially born out of their own experiences in the family court system, something echoed by many other women in attendance that night.

“My own experience in family court was truly the Twilight Zone,” Polacko said. “I experienced court officials bragging about how much money they were making, demeaning me, and certainly the other people, and when I experienced that for the first time, I thought this can’t be happening, this can’t be our system in America.”

“When you experience family court, you can’t look away,” Polacko continued. “You have to reach back and help those who are still in it. As a divorce coach and a journalist, I want to shine a light on this. Everyone thinks this won’t happen to them until it does.”

Cocchiola says they chose the title “Framed,” to paint a picture of what happens to women when they come into family court with abuse allegations – that they are not believed and, in turn, are portrayed to be “the problem.”

“When a victim comes forward, she’s often disbelieved, and the moment she discloses that abuse, often she gets framed as the abuser, as the problem,” Cocchiola said. “Overall, there is a huge problem that people are only interested in capitalizing on the vulnerability of people.”

“There is a belief in the judicial system that women lie about abuse a lot, which is not true,” Cocchiola said. “The bottom line is the patriarchal norms that are set up in society and the systems that align in that patriarchy, and that is what’s happening in family court.”

There has been a growing chorus in recent years of women saying the family court system is ignoring domestic abuse and allowing abusive ex-partners to use the court system to exact revenge, dragging out divorce and child custody cases over years, with hundreds of motions filed.

The costs of these high conflict cases can wander into the millions and leave one party or the other destitute and having to represent themselves in court because they can no longer afford an attorney. In these authors’ view – and in the view of many divorced men, as well – the only winners in these situations are judges, attorneys and court-appointed experts, therapists, and psychologists who charge tens of thousands of dollars for their services.

“Abusers weaponize our court system and they’re allowed to,” Polacko said. “The people involved are making so much money, what is their incentive to stop? And then there is a deep-rooted misogyny, and that was shocking to me years ago when I first experienced the system.”

In one story contained in the book, “Lucy” describes how her parents essentially emptied their retirement savings, spending $600,000 for her legal fees in her custody battle: “But so much time has passed that I wonder if there will be any kids at the end of this. They are quickly approaching adulthood, and there is no end in sight for the divorce.”

Women like Cocchiola and Polacko, along with several other attendees of their book launch party, have joined with hundreds more in online groups to support each other as they go through the family court system, offering advice, and court-watching to bear witness to what they say is judicial bias and a willful disregard of domestic abuse allegations.

Some family court issues have come to national attention recently, resulting in new laws, both in Connecticut and in other states.

In 2021, Connecticut passed Jennifer’s Law to define coercive control – one partner controlling the other through threats, intimidation, and finances but without physical harm – as a form of domestic abuse following the murder of Jennifer Magnano by her ex-husband and the disappearance and presumed murder of Jennifer Dulos, a case that gained nationwide attention.

A series of articles by ProPublica examining reunification camps in Colorado in which children are forced to attend a camp with a parent they are resistant to seeing – sometimes due to abuse allegations – resulted in a state law that limits the use of those camps.

In one story contained in their book, “Victoria” describes how a reunification expert hired by her ex-husband was allowed to testify in court that she had “severely alienated” the children from their father and that the only remedy would be the children attending a reunification camp run by that very same psychologist, who was no longer licensed.

I saw an article about this

 

[Jmoose]

I’ve been absent from this never ending horror story for a while and yet it’s still dragging on! I still think about Jennifer’s family and hope that, at least her children don’t torture themselves by following the antics of MT and her crew. But at the same time, I do wonder if her mother, Gloria
hasn’t been following all along. I know I would. That being said, could Gloria do anything legally about the suspicious circumstances regarding
that sealed document and how MT and her legal team are trying to use that at her contempt hearing?

Maybe, but it doesn’t look like she is doing anything about it. I think just managing those 5 kids might be more than enough work for her,

 

[pernickety]

Just a quite footnote: I think MT burned documents and plans and the Herman report. She missed that last copy. It is my opinion that, after LE took it into evidence, FD, MT, and anyT's no longer had a physical copy of the report. They regurgitated it from memory often but did not have the text, until, after a lively tete a tete with Atty Felsen, suddenly the moment had arrived for the great reveal. MT, lighting it up on her tablet. She was probably giddy with anticipation. I do wonder if MT was in possession at that moment of the entire sealed report or just four pages of it. MT did not do this on her own. But then, she's intimately familiar with conspiracy to crime.

NO ONE should skate on this breach.

JMO

In 2014 CT SC opined on a civil case, Kortner v. Martise, where the jury considered a document not in evidence. Seems the clerk improperly gave it to them, the jurors—according to the judge’s instructions—sent a question to the clerk, asking if they should consider it. The clerk was supposed to refer the question to the judge, but didn’t do so. The defendant won. But several jurors went public about it after the trial. The plaintiff’s atty filed to have the verdict thrown out, but the judge, IIRC, Judge Barbara Brazzel-Massaro, denied the motion, saying it didn’t affect the jury’s decisions. SC reversed and remanded for new trial. Without that doc in evidence, plaintiff won and got a judgment over mid-6 figures. IMO the judge, in violation of the Code of Judicial Conduct, was covering for the misconduct of her clerk, rather than seeing that justice was done. Did anyone investigate that clerk, to see if there was any malfeasance? Look at all the amicus briefs that were filed.

Kortner v. Martise, 91 A.3d 412 | Casetext Search + Citator

“Although we recognize that the trial court was not made aware of the allegation that the jury considered material not in evidence until after judgment was rendered, the trial court abused its discretion in denying the plaintiff's motion to set aside the verdict and for a new trial in light of the jury's improper consideration of a document not in evidence and the probability that the jury was influenced by it. Accordingly, we reverse the trial court's judgment and remand the case to that court with direction to grant the plaintiff's motion to set aside the verdict and for a new trial.”

So knowing that this SC case law existed, was Horn trying to get that report before the MT jury, hoping for a mistrial?

 

[Seattle1]

So knowing that this SC case law existed, was Horn trying to get that report before the MT jury, hoping for a mistrial?

^^rsbm

I don't see the comparison between the cited civil action and the subject criminal case. This is emphasized here in that MT was charged with contempt separately under a new criminal charge. JMO

 

[Deleted member 229974]

Maybe, but it doesn’t look like she is doing anything about it. I think just managing those 5 kids might be more than enough work for her,

Actually I hope she has found peace and is not wasting her time or energy reliving this tragedy through MT and her pathetic attempts to absolve herself from Jennifer’s murder.

 

[BJarv]

Actually I hope she has found peace and is not wasting her time or energy reliving this tragedy through MT and her pathetic attempts to absolve herself from Jennifer’s murder.

For some reason I got the sense that the family collectively 'turned the page' on FD, MT and the Troconis clan via speaking during the victim impact statements at MT trial. JFD friends after sentencing clearly moved on and put the matter of MT and the trial in the rear view mirror and chose to focus on the children of JF as well as returning to their own lives. Perhaps they thought it was simply time to move on and believed giving time and energy to morally bankrupt scum like MT and her family is a waste of their valuable time in this life? I get it. Life is short and no need to spend it giving oxygen and precious time to human garbage.

GF unlike what she and Atty Weinstein did regarding Pattis and pursuing him legally in a civil case for not returning money given to him by FD and also seeking to stop his speech about the case, seems to not be interested in shutting down the speech of MT or her family for whatever reason. Perhaps its because they recognize that liars such as MT and her family will simply continue to lie and because they don't respect the US system of law can't be stopped by a civil judgment? IDK. Maybe.

MT has imo and in the eyes of the jury never told the truth regarding what she knows, BUT MT has been unmasked, along with her enabling attorneys, as simply being a pathological liar. Perhaps this was the simple goal of GF and the State of CT to on the most basic level to allow MT to show the world who she was on the record? With the record in place for the trial, there is zero doubt imo that MT is a pathological liar and that she and her new attorneys reinventing a 'new truth' for the habeas case is just a continuation of the existing farcical story she concocted for her criminal trial. Liars cannot be believed and trusted ever and so maybe the hope is that MT can continue to lie and waste the Courts time until there are no more cases to be brought? Who knows? But it sadly seems there is a bottomless pit of corrupt attorneys such as Jon Schoenhorn and Audrey Felson and the new public defenders that will facilitate the lies of MT and feed the legal garbage into the CT legal system on rinse and repeat. I just hope the Judges hearing her lies will see through them.

@Seattle1 posted the clip of Mama Troconis and Horn on the Courthouse steps from the day MT flashed the discredited report on her computer screen. What I found curious is that someone from the Press asked Mama Troconis the simple question about the latest MT lie that MT was supposedly leaving FD for CO and as a Disinformation Grand Master that she is, Mami Troconis simply said that the question would have to be directed to MT! Mami Troconis would have known what the MT plan was to stay or go and could have easily answered that question. Thing is though that the entire family was with MT at 4Jx for Greek Easter dinner that year and then surrounded MT as she seemed to not be able to leave FD even after he was unmasked as a murdering monster and moved on with a new money bags girlfriend! The idea that MT was going anywhere away from CT and FD was ludacris but that isn't stopping Mami Troconis from supporting the ongoing lies of her daughter. Had this 'new' story had any validity it could have been presented at the criminal trial along with receipts but we all know that this never happened! The entire family is simply a bottomless pit of lies and perhaps this is what GF knows and realises there is no way to deal with such people and their lies other than 'gray rocking'?

Having learned a bit about Mami Troconis and her entire corrupt clan from Venezuela I now see that truth simply isn't in the DNA of such contemptible people as they will simply create a bottomless dumpster fire of lies until the legal system will no longer give them a platform to hear their lies and mis and dis information. It makes me sad though that these people with no morals and values brought the corruption of their failed country to the US and CT. To see them parading around wearing their crosses and spouting their lies to the feckless and inept US Press and CT Courts shows them for the fools that they are imo.

Perhaps GF knows that MT and her family are quite simply incapable of telling the truth about anything given that so many lies have been told to date that its unlikely anything will ever change? The MT family has enabled the immoral and criminal behaviour of their daughter/sister for so many years that they too are incapable of truth telling and simply want to continue to see no accountability for their morally bankrupt MT who they believe is 'innocent' and 'did nothing wrong'. Right.

Perhaps GF is right in that there is no hope for useless human garbage such as MT and her family or even her then young daughter Nicole Begue who grew up amidst a high conflict divorce courtesy of her mothers life choices and fathers neglect but sadly didn't have the human decency as an adult herself when offered the opportunity to show some grace and human compassion to the 5 motherless Dulos children with whom she spent so much time when she spoke at the sentencing hearing for her mother.

GF and the friends of JF had to have known about the MT social media statements for years and also been aware of the JF medical statement that is still on the MT insta account and don't seem to care and neither it seems does the State of CT. Its their choice to do nothing legally and perhaps they believe MT and her family aren't worth the time or their energy or certainly money to pursue her legally?

Sadly as we have seen in other matters of information in the public domain, what seems to happen is that lies repeated over and over seem to eventually be washed clean and accepted as 'facts' or some acceptable version of the 'truth'. I hope this doesn't happen in the case of MT. Somehow I don't think the MT ongoing lies will ever stop as at this point MT and her family have done nothing but lie for years and it hasn't had any impact.

But, its hard not to be disturbed by finding more inept and unprofessional legal professionals in CT willing to prepare legal documents full of misstatements aka lies for their clients to sign and present to the Court as 'truth' as seen in the Habeas action documents filed by MT and her new attorneys most recently. I guess the CT Bar is simply a bottomless pit of attorneys that see no problem presenting statements to the Court which have no basis in fact. We shall see how that all works out for them and whether yet another MT series of lies wins the day. I've lost count of how many different stories MT has presented to the Court

IMO the Troconis family known this sad truth about mis and disinformation and so will continue to spout their lies on rinse and repeat absent some court telling them its not allowed imo. And, even then I don't think MT and her family have any respect for the rule of law when the rule of law precludes them for having whatever it is that they want. So, perhaps GF and Atty Weinstein know that pursuing litigation against MT and her entire morally bankrupt and lawless/souless/useless family is pointless as no matter what happens in Court they will simply disregard the ruling as was seen with MT and the report on her computer. IDK, just speculation on my part.

On a certain level I get the decision not to pursue the Troconis family and MT as its perhaps pointless but the other issue is its not just MT and her family that saw the discredited report, it was Horn and Mini Horn and the entire group frankly has played fast and loose with references to the discredited report for years. I personally wish that civil action is taken to protect the Victim in this case but its probably a pipe dream as even in the case where MT displayed the sealed document on her computer the State of CT in its ineptness can't even successfully prosecute a contempt action to punish MT for a willful act of defiance! Sad state of affairs.

I also wonder if the view of the Farber friends and family is simply 'good riddance to bad trash' as it relates to MT and her family? Like the rest of the world they can sit back and realise that the highly imperfect justice system did convict MT of 6 serious charges and MT will be sitting in prison for a good long time. Was justice achieved? Nope as there is no bringing back a mother for 5 children. But the system delivered some level of partial comfort for the Victims. FWIW I do think the trial did pull the mask off of MT, her family and her pathetically unaware daughter and expose them all for the lying morally bankrupt frauds that they are imo. The trial also showed the impact that corrupt members of the bar can have on a trial as abhorrent and imo unlawful behaviour was seen from Attys Pattis, Schoenhorn and Felson along with the many other corrupt members of the CT Bar in the form of FD various attorneys. The trial also showed imo the complicity of the Press in the form of the Stamford Advocate, Hearst Publications, CBS, NBC CT and News12 in simply repeating the lies of Schoenhorn, Pattis and MT and the MT family with no independent investigation. GF and Atty Weinstein are no fools imo and well know the legal landscape of the CT Bar and know precisely what scum they were dealing with in terms of the MT case. GF and Atty Weinstein also know the Press are incapable of research and so will never fact check MT, her family or her lawyers. Knowing all this I can see perhaps why they packed up the tent and returned to NY and their lives.

Sadly I think the process of GF and the children/friends moving on was absolutely lost in the bigger picture of events surrounding sentencing as Judge Randolph somehow allowed the Victim Impact statement portion of sentencing to be turned into a sham where MT and her supporters for some reason I don't understand were included as being 'victims'. I have never seen a convicted felon be included as a VICTIM and allowed to take away from the many reasons that true Victims are allowed to address the Judge and the Court about their views on the crime. Only in CT I guess. But, the world saw the sentencing commentary fiasco for what it was and the world saw imo corrupt members of the bar such as Pattis, Schoenhorn and Felson for what they are as well. Small solace unfortunately imo.

MOO

 

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In 2014 CT SC opined on a civil case, Kortner v. Martise, where the jury considered a document not in evidence. Seems the clerk improperly gave it to them, the jurors—according to the judge’s instructions—sent a question to the clerk, asking if they should consider it. The clerk was supposed to refer the question to the judge, but didn’t do so. The defendant won. But several jurors went public about it after the trial. The plaintiff’s atty filed to have the verdict thrown out, but the judge, IIRC, Judge Barbara Brazzel-Massaro, denied the motion, saying it didn’t affect the jury’s decisions. SC reversed and remanded for new trial. Without that doc in evidence, plaintiff won and got a judgment over mid-6 figures. IMO the judge, in violation of the Code of Judicial Conduct, was covering for the misconduct of her clerk, rather than seeing that justice was done. Did anyone investigate that clerk, to see if there was any malfeasance? Look at all the amicus briefs that were filed.

Kortner v. Martise, 91 A.3d 412 | Casetext Search + Citator

“Although we recognize that the trial court was not made aware of the allegation that the jury considered material not in evidence until after judgment was rendered, the trial court abused its discretion in denying the plaintiff's motion to set aside the verdict and for a new trial in light of the jury's improper consideration of a document not in evidence and the probability that the jury was influenced by it. Accordingly, we reverse the trial court's judgment and remand the case to that court with direction to grant the plaintiff's motion to set aside the verdict and for a new trial.”

So knowing that this SC case law existed, was Horn trying to get that report before the MT jury, hoping for a mistrial?

Interesting. Perhaps as you say this all was in the back of the pea brain of Schoenhorn as a kind of 'hail mary pass' or get out of jail card for convicted felon MT? Your information might explain why a useless report was given so much attention by Schoenhorn and MT was willing to commit the act of contempt? Who knows? The thing is that even with a mistrial, MT would be back to square one with a new trial and as she would have run out of money would be there with a public defender (probably better for her than the corrupt Horn and Mini Horn but who knows!).

The MT case was different though in that the two Judges did view the report and in the pretrial period Judge Randolph precluded it from being entered into evidence. Thankfully States Attorney Manning kept the report from being slipped into evidence by both Atty's Felson and Schoenhorn. The Judges however imo did a piss poor job of enforcing rules around discussion of the report. But, at the end of it all the jury saw the case through to conviction on all six and wasn't bothered or distracted by the lack of access to the discredited report.

 

[BJarv]

Actually I hope she has found peace and is not wasting her time or energy reliving this tragedy through MT and her pathetic attempts to absolve herself from Jennifer’s murder.

Love the birds @MollyDDD! Birds have the brilliant ability to simply ride the winds and fly over the dumpster fires of the world below them!