GUILTY CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, deceased/not found, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #71

[Jmoose]

Let's not forget Norm Pattis saying (I'm paraphrasing) that there is an explanation for the trash bags, but he's not going to tell it. Why not? If it supports someone's innocence, why wouldn't you, as an officer of the law, provide an explanation? Why hasn't MT's trial attorneys investigated that comment and place NP on record if it exonerates his client? If you knew something critical in nature that would clear someone's name and keep them from a 14.5 year prison sentence, wouldn't you "tell it"?

That is a very good question. After all, if FD “didn’t do it”, then MT could not have assisted him, right? Imagine allowing someone to go to prison for something she didn’t do, knowing that you could have prevented it-and as an officer of the court, to boot

 

[Southernsnooper]

Also, remember after the trash bag contents discovery, the police spent days searching piles of shredded trash with the K9s at MIRA and I think Kimball said they found something that made the search worth it? What was it… we never heard what the found did we?

 

[Jmoose]

Also, remember after the trash bag contents discovery, the police spent days searching piles of shredded trash with the K9s at MIRA and I think Kimball said they found something that made the search worth it? What was it… we never heard what the found did we?

I’m not sure they did find anything-just said they did, because at the time, they were actively trying to flip MT-maybe said it to push her over.

 

[LosAngeles]

Can someone remind me of the circumstances surrounding the time Fotis and Michelle found out that they discovered bags with evidence at MIRA? Were they at a party or BBQ with friends? TYIA

 

[Jmoose]

Can someone remind me of the circumstances surrounding the time Fotis and Michelle found out that they discovered bags with evidence at MIRA? Were they at a party or BBQ with friends? TYIA

Was this when they were at “The Pond” for some kind of BBQ? And the guy who owns it suggested that they shouldn’t be there?

 

[Megnut]

Let's not forget Norm Pattis saying (I'm paraphrasing) that there is an explanation for the trash bags, but he's not going to tell it. Why not? If it supports someone's innocence, why wouldn't you, as an officer of the law, provide an explanation? Why hasn't MT's trial attorneys investigated that comment and place NP on record if it exonerates his client? If you knew something critical in nature that would clear someone's name and keep them from a 14.5 year prison sentence, wouldn't you "tell it"?

Oh, come on. The explanation is obvious. The trash bags came from 4JC, and MT was a domestic giant, pulling her weight with the heavy trash detail. You know, daily. Hard worker we know her to be. And each time she got a trash bag on the course of her regular donestic drudgery, she took great care always to gum up the trailing trash bag with her fingerprintery fingerprints, as one does.

Of course, that's assuming perforated trash bags that require some manhandling to separate -- which these weren't. (Iirc I recall seeing drawstrings in the photographs.)

Oh, and never mind that her gummy fingerprints were found exactly where one would expect them to be, if someone were holding a trash bag open.

MT's biggest tell IMO is that her story didn't shift an inch when presented with photographs of JFd's blood-soaked shirt and bra, cut down the middle, in a trash bag containing zipties, also cut. Whatever one may have thought happened to JFd -- gone girl, self-harm -- evaporates with that information. 100% JFd was a victim of a violent crime. Why is there no reaction from MT? Forget blame for a second, but no visceral response to visible proof that a woman endured devastating violence?

And yes, she loves to say there's no motive -- the irony here is something else -- she's glued to FD; if FD had no motive, then she also had no motive (according to her flawed logic), yet her own family says her mistake was in loving the wrong man at the wrong time. So which is it? No motive, he didn't do it? Or.... he did do it and therefore must have had a motive?

And if he did in fact have a motive, then so did MT.

(The motive is also obvious. Divorce was slow, divorce involved financials, delays meant more weekends where MT had to vacate the children's home. MT found that all torturous. They weren't looking for divorce, they wanted immediate and permanent resolution -- which eliminating JFd would accomplish, especially since they planned to set it up to look like JFd herself was responsible for JFd's disappearance. No more visitation, no more financial scrutiny, no more shared parenting, no more debt, flush with many, instant life$tyle boo$t.)

She's still not committing to FD, being the murderer. (Her family did IMO, when they said her only mistake was loving the wrong man.) You'd think she'd want to distance herself from what he did, but instead she is clinging to him. Last chair on the Titancic. Why???????? He's not here, no point in remaining loyal to him.

There can only be one reason she wouldn't sell FD out. She can't. And maybe that's because KM is still alive. I bet HE knows why she continues to hold out. Can three people keep a secret if one is dead?

JMO

 

[Seattle1]

From MT's Motion to transfer her Appeal to the Supreme Court filed on 12/5/2025-- she has the nerve to cite that appeals have been transferred in cases that have gained a lot of media attention (like hers)! Sounds like a pretty weak argument to me... JMO.

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[pernickety]

From MT's Motion to transfer her Appeal to the Supreme Court filed on 12/5/2025-- she has the nerve to cite that appeals have been transferred in cases that have gained a lot of media attention (like hers)! Sounds like a pretty weak argument to me... JMO.

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AIR, Schoenhorn sued the court reporter for the family court transcript of the psychologist’s testimony in JS’s own name, not MT’s—but he filed his motion in MT’s criminal court case. And AIR, the court’s ruling was that he should have filed his motion to unseal in the family court, not the criminal court. I don’t think that he ever did file it subsequently in the family court. So I wonder if MT can appeal that issue—if the constitutional argument wasn’t made in the correct court in her name (not JS's name) and wasn't ruled on.

 

[pernickety]

AIR, Schoenhorn sued the court reporter for the family court transcript of the psychologist’s testimony in JS’s own name, not MT’s—but he filed his motion in MT’s criminal court case. And AIR, the court’s ruling was that he should have filed his motion to unseal in the family court, not the criminal court. I don’t think that he ever did file it subsequently in the family court. So I wonder if MT can appeal that issue—if the constitutional argument wasn’t made in the correct court in her name (not JS's name) and wasn't ruled on.

https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/michelle-troconis-jennifer-dulos-appeal-bond-21328715.php

"...According to Nagy, if Troconis were to be released on an appeal bond, she has been granted permission to stay in the parsonage house of the Avon Congregational Church, which she attended prior to her incarceration. The motion includes several letters from Avon community members attesting to Troconis' good works and character..."

 

[BJarv]

I've wondered what Papa T's 2nd wife thinks of all the money the clan throws at Michi's problems.

Did he get married? The last time I checked he was just living in the house of his wealthy girlfriend.

 

[BJarv]

He might not have many prospects; I’ve actually been in an elevator with him…not that looks are everything, but he doesn’t have them. If it ever mattered to MT, she seems to have lowered her superficial standards. I’m sorry-this was mean.

Sorry, not sorry with this one as what clown waits for idk 10 years for MT? Answer: A guy who makes churros! Simply cannot make up this nonsense!

 

[Seattle1]

AIR, Schoenhorn sued the court reporter for the family court transcript of the psychologist’s testimony in JS’s own name, not MT’s—but he filed his motion in MT’s criminal court case. And AIR, the court’s ruling was that he should have filed his motion to unseal in the family court, not the criminal court. I don’t think that he ever did file it subsequently in the family court. So I wonder if MT can appeal that issue—if the constitutional argument wasn’t made in the correct court in her name (not JS's name) and wasn't ruled on.

IMO, JLS did not file his motion to unseal the transcript of the family court proceeding in family court intentionally. JLS knew that he had no basis to do so when the closed hearing was declared a mistrial by the Court-- due to the conduct of a witness, and parties to the case did not object. JLS and MT were not parties to the family case, and they had no authority here. In fact, I believe JLS's failed argument when first seeking the transcript was because the family court hearing was closed to the public without prior notice! So no, I don't think MT can appeal the issue claiming an error by Attorney JLS. She also waived her right to claim JLS ineffective assistance of counsel at a later date during her habeas corpus trial by limiting her ineffective counsel claim solely to AB. MOO

 

[BJarv]

Hon. Schuman's ruling will only be round one. Whatever side loses will go to the AC for a 3-judge panel decision, then possibly CT Supreme Court. Then maybe motion for reconsideration, then possibly--if MT loses--to SCOTUS.

My prayer is that entire process is spread out over 10 years and the huge inefficiency of the CT Judiciary FOR ONCE works in the favor of justice!

 

[BJarv]

Can someone remind me of the circumstances surrounding the time Fotis and Michelle found out that they discovered bags with evidence at MIRA? Were they at a party or BBQ with friends? TY

Also, remember after the trash bag contents discovery, the police spent days searching piles of shredded trash with the K9s at MIRA and I think Kimball said they found something that made the search worth it? What was it… we never heard what the found did we?

We never heard. My guess it was intentional misdirection statement by Police as I don't believe they are obligated to tell the truth in their public statements during an ongoing investigation but I could be wrong about this. It also could have been to keep the heat off of the outcries about the huge expense of the investigation that was starting to build in CT too. Part of the 'squeeze' by CT legislators to effectively 'de fund' the police in CT is to continue to cut funding to the bone and not replace retiring officers and staff. This has created staffing shortages and lack of funding for investigations which most in the State sadly don't understand until its one of their loved ones or themselves who need the assistance of law enforcement. This process of slowly and silently de funding the police has been going on for at least 20 years.

Wealthier towns such as New Canaan are a bit better off but frankly the underfunding of law enforcement in places like CT and now NYC (situation is horrific and in a city that an ongoing major terror target) has imo compromised citizen safety. Places like Hartford and New Haven (2 of the largest cities in CT) have seen mayors in recent years say that the crime situation is such that the the cities are 'ungovernable'. If it sounds like I'm talking about a third world situation then you wouldn't be wrong. What has been going on as it relates to shifting funding for 'other items on the political agenda' such as supporting a now huge population of illegal aliens and unproven green energy failed plans are sadly facts of life in CT and NY. CT has one of the highest tax burdens on individual citizens in the US and its legislative goals over the past 20 years have focused on bail reform (ditto for NYC), sentencing guideline changes (reductions) and early release (last time I checked the avg prisoner was lucky to stay in for 1/2 of their sentence, with a few exceptions based on charges and an AG Tong and Gov Lamont who are working overtime to push policies that don't prioritize imo safety and law and order.

We saw how Judge Randolph viewed the CSP and tossed the MT phone and ruled on other issues related to CSP and imo he was a moderate Judge in CT. Law enforcement imo gets little to no support from the Judiciary in CT and the folks that work these jobs know that is the case. This in turn drives behavior (as it was designed to do) of law enforcement. Watching this all play out over time (20+ years) has been heartbreaking. Early on the 'law enforcement reforms' were due to ongoing complaints of overreach and abused by the CSP but then that issue imo was twisted by the CT Legislature and political agendas of Gov to continue to pile on legislative changes to make citizens less safe via bail reform and prison reform and then the slow defunding of law enforcement happened and its been so hard to watch.

Most DV cases get little to no support from local law enforcement and getting protective orders has become increasingly difficult and sometimes its even impossible to get enforcement of a protective order. We saw this most clearly with Kent Mawhinny wife who had a protective order and couldn't get her stalker ex husband away from parking for hours with binoculars in front of her house or even get rapid police protection was a paid robber was breaking into her house. Also, think about the entire experience of JF in CT Family Court. Judges that dont understand DV, coercive control or non physical violence or have any training in high conflict divorce.

JF wasn't protected by the State of CT imo. The unserious people in Hartford put in place an "Office of Victims Advocacy" years ago and frankly imo is a disgrace. Where were these people when the discredited Herman Report was seen on a screen DURING TRIAL and by someone who I don't think should have had a copy. There supposedly was a Victims Advocate in Stamford that could have helped JF but was this person ever seen or heard from at Trial? Looking at this group for years and having tried to contact them on behalf of DV victims for assistance, I can say that the people are non responsive, inept and poorly trained and not helpful. They also are virtually impossible to contact and get a return call. Even attorneys that reach out to them get inconsistent treatment.

Sadly in CT and within the AG Office, staffing is an issue on many levels and so some of these services are staffed inappropriately imo and many also exist to meet DEI targets which in CT and NY are very much a thing unfortunately imo. Sadly though its victims and citizens that pay the price for this ineptitude.

 

[BJarv]

Very helpful & Thank You. I'm going to stay hopeful that this judge is reasonable and honors Bowman's representation at the "snapshot" of known facts at the time in question. If his judgement is penalized, honestly, I'm afraid there is no hope whatsoever to practice law in the state of Connecticut (no sanctions for Norm or Jon or Kent...come on)?

I hope you are right. I still cannot get those 3 days and the behavior of the Judge out of my mind. I follow alot of cases in CT and this Judge is a longstanding member of the Judiciary and frankly he shocked even me. I think I now understand why Judge Randolph retired and dead wood such as Judges White and Blawie hang on. The States Prosecutors Office can't get staff and always has an open jobs listing going on for pages. BUT, due to the 'defunding of law enforcement' the pay offered by the States Prosecutors isn't at a level to allow someone to live well in one of the most expensive and highly taxed States in the US. THIS was all done intentionally and its been going on for years and its all politically motivated. AG role has also been driven by politics and its no mystery that the AG takes the approach of 'see hear and do nothing' as it relates to prison/bail reform and ongoing issues in CT Judiciary. I'm glad the Dulos trial and the miscreant attorneys involved (Pattis, Schoenhorn, all the deadbeat attorneys hired by Dulos over the years) showed the sorry state of law enforcement and prosecutor support going on in CT. IMO if you take the current situation and then multiply it by 100 in next door neighbor and very large and powerful state NY or MA, then you can see the current state of affairs on the East Coast. Its a sorry state of affairs imo.

 

[BJarv]

Was this when they were at “The Pond” for some kind of BBQ? And the guy who owns it suggested that they shouldn’t be there?

I was just going to say this but I thought about it and think that they were asked to leave the 'pond' as that is when the arrest warrants were issued OR it was when the Albany footage hit the local TV screens. Have to go back and look.

 

[BJarv]

AIR, Schoenhorn sued the court reporter for the family court transcript of the psychologist’s testimony in JS’s own name, not MT’s—but he filed his motion in MT’s criminal court case. And AIR, the court’s ruling was that he should have filed his motion to unseal in the family court, not the criminal court. I don’t think that he ever did file it subsequently in the family court. So I wonder if MT can appeal that issue—if the constitutional argument wasn’t made in the correct court in her name (not JS's name) and wasn't ruled on.

But, I thought the issue was that MT had no standing to file in Family Court? I wish these hearings had been public as I feel like there is SO much we don't know that happened behind closed doors. Even at the recent Habeas trial imo it was clear that alot of the hearings were behind closed doors.

 

[BJarv]

https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/michelle-troconis-jennifer-dulos-appeal-bond-21328715.php

"...According to Nagy, if Troconis were to be released on an appeal bond, she has been granted permission to stay in the parsonage house of the Avon Congregational Church, which she attended prior to her incarceration. The motion includes several letters from Avon community members attesting to Troconis' good works and character..."

I wish we could attach memes here...this stuff simply cannot be made up.

 

[Megnut]

https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/michelle-troconis-jennifer-dulos-appeal-bond-21328715.php

"...According to Nagy, if Troconis were to be released on an appeal bond, she has been granted permission to stay in the parsonage house of the Avon Congregational Church, which she attended prior to her incarceration. The motion includes several letters from Avon community members attesting to Troconis' good works and character..."

CONVICTED of felony murder, she wants to be out on bond while she awaits a ruling on her motions/appeal/fairytale?

Yeah, you and every other convicted felon, Inmate #whatevah. You no longer have the presumptive poncho of innocence. You ARE guilty, having been found guilty by a jury of your peers.

Nice touch, that she is telling the Court that she'll stay at the church manse. Downright saintly. I'm sure she would like another chance but 1) she's hardly reformed and 2) she's a CONVICTED felon. Even if God Himself offered to babysit her, she can't be trusted. Let me say that again. She can't be trusted.

FD is dead. If she was an unwitting participate in a scheme of which she was unaware, she could tell us what she was burning. She could tell us where FD was from 11:30-5:30. She could tell us why she was so 'afraid' of FD that she had no choice but to don the second poncho. 'Sif.

Members of that church are affording her a mercy best saved for the penitent, if you ask me.

Or for the young victims in this case who are victims because this inmate freely conspired with FD to rip their mother from them.

Tell me this. Once the inmate serves her actual sentence, how many days do you think she'll spend in her beloved Connecticut in general and at this church in particular? I think we can agree to a range -- between 0 and 0 days.

Grifter's gonna grift.

JMO

 

[pernickety]

Did he get married? The last time I checked he was just living in the house of his wealthy girlfriend.

Oh, I thought I read back when that he was remarried. Don't really know.