Silver Alert CT- Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 #10 *ARRESTS*

[Jmoose]

Your last sentence is right on. I was fortunate enough to train and work on Wall St. for a period and this was the overriding attitude.
Money, money and more money.
And as I've said previously we were taught well how to identify
those potential clients w/ sizeable incomes and assets.
FD was capable of doing the same and sought out women to date
based on their family money. I'm sure he was able to sleuth
JD's father's income and went after her like a shark on blood.

He knew her at Brown; I’m sure he’s known since college that her family was wealthy. Maybe he thought wife #1 would be the goldmine, and when she turned out not to be, he started planning. I know I read somewhere that they were acquainted in college; I wonder if they dated at all there. Otherwise it seems a little weird to run into someone you barely know from college and start reacquainting-especially while you are married. I think he knew she was wealthy, and she was his goal before they even ran into each other the first time.

 

[LittleBitty]

While we don’t yet know what LE has found at MIRA if JDs remains were dismembered and in those bags shown on C4 video (some of which were recovered by LE—the vast majority were not, as LE only learned of the trashbin odyssey of stupidity on May 31st though the actual dump took place on May 24th) I have to wonder if perhaps what was found may have been bone fragments.

(Sorry for any insensitivity here: my father was a Pathologist for 30 years before he passed away and I have witnessed many autopsies so I may be less squeamish and sentimental than most about remains).

If bone fragments were found or perhaps teeth or tooth fragments it would take longer to test for a positive ID. They were able to test items with blood on them found in the bags recovered on Albany at the DESPP lab and received results positive for JD on the same day they were submitted (6/1/19).

The more I read about the intensive search at MIRA the more I believe that LE believes that JDs remains did go through there and were in the bags that were dumped on Albany in Hartford. They have been there for three weeks combining through piles of shredded trash with people and canines.

Unfortunately, because they learned of the trashbin odyssey of stupidity a week after it occurred the content of the bags not recovered by LE were shredded and incinerated at MIRA before LE arrived. This is all MOO but it think apart from searches early on at Fore Group, LLC properties and Pound Ridge, the searching of the two ponds were based on “tips.”

We know that the search at MIRA will be wrapping up and most of the man power has been searching there. It may free them up to make additional searches of the addresses of importance but JMO as always I think LE believes JD’s remains were in those trash bags.

 

[enelram]

He knew her at Brown; I’m sure he’s known since college that her family was wealthy. Maybe he thought wife #1 would be the goldmine, and when she turned out not to be, he started planning. I know I read somewhere that they were acquainted in college; I wonder if they dated at all there. Otherwise it seems a little weird to run into someone you barely know from college and start reacquainting-especially while you are married. I think he knew she was wealthy, and she was his goal before they even ran into each other the first time.

Maybe the first time around, he married for love and second time
he married for money.
Did he learn from his first mistake?
First wife was atty in the financial world, totally different than JD.
JD mentioned in her blog that she met him the first week of school at Brown. doesn't sound like they really dated.
these type guys don't usually leave the current paramour til they've lined up their replacement. Very common tactic.
I think they're the co-dependent type, always needing a mate to
boost their little fragile ego.

 

[citygirl]

While we don’t yet know what LE has found at MIRA if JDs remains were dismembered and in those bags shown on C4 video (some of which were recovered by LE—the vast majority were not, as LE only learned of the trashbin odyssey of stupidity on May 31st though the actual dump took place on May 24th) I have to wonder if perhaps what was found may have been bone fragments.

(Sorry for any insensitivity here: my father was a Pathologist for 30 years before he passed away and I have witnessed many autopsies so I may be less squeamish and sentimental than most about remains).

If bone fragments were found or perhaps teeth or tooth fragments it would take longer to test for a positive ID. They were able to test items with blood on them found in the bags recovered on Albany at the DESPP lab and received results positive for JD on the same day they were submitted (6/1/19).

The more I read about the intensive search at MIRA the more I believe that LE believes that JDs remains did go through there and were in the bags that were dumped on Albany in Hartford. They have been there for three weeks combining through piles of shredded trash with people and canines.

Unfortunately, because they learned of the trashbin odyssey of stupidity a week after it occurred the content of the bags not recovered by LE were shredded and incinerated at MIRA before LE arrived. This is all MOO but it think apart from searches early on at Fore Group, LLC properties and Pound Ridge, the searching of the two ponds were based on “tips.”

We know that the search at MIRA will be wrapping up and most of the man power has been searching there. It may free them up to make additional searches of the addresses of importance but JMO as always I think LE believes JD’s remains were in those trash bags.

I was encouraged with what LE said today. From the beginning I felt they would work to recover every shard. It's hard to believe they haven't found anything. Two things stood out to me in the presser. Our goal is to recover her and we send things to ME on a daily basis. They are in the process of building a strong case. FD isn't going anywhere. MOO.

 

[enelram]

While we don’t yet know what LE has found at MIRA if JDs remains were dismembered and in those bags shown on C4 video (some of which were recovered by LE—the vast majority were not, as LE only learned of the trashbin odyssey of stupidity on May 31st though the actual dump took place on May 24th) I have to wonder if perhaps what was found may have been bone fragments.

(Sorry for any insensitivity here: my father was a Pathologist for 30 years before he passed away and I have witnessed many autopsies so I may be less squeamish and sentimental than most about remains).

If bone fragments were found or perhaps teeth or tooth fragments it would take longer to test for a positive ID. They were able to test items with blood on them found in the bags recovered on Albany at the DESPP lab and received results positive for JD on the same day they were submitted (6/1/19).

The more I read about the intensive search at MIRA the more I believe that LE believes that JDs remains did go through there and were in the bags that were dumped on Albany in Hartford. They have been there for three weeks combining through piles of shredded trash with people and canines.

Unfortunately, because they learned of the trashbin odyssey of stupidity a week after it occurred the content of the bags not recovered by LE were shredded and incinerated at MIRA before LE arrived. This is all MOO but it think apart from searches early on at Fore Group, LLC properties and Pound Ridge, the searching of the two ponds were based on “tips.”

We know that the search at MIRA will be wrapping up and most of the man power has been searching there. It may free them up to make additional searches of the addresses of importance but JMO as always I think LE believes JD’s remains were in those trash bags.

What a fascinating upbringing you must have had growing up!!
I can just imagine the dinner time discussions that went on at your house.

 

[GoodWins1]

I'm assuming his wife would be covered under his policy, unless she had a separate policy. (I doubt it)
Either way, since they were still married at the time of her death he would be responsible for paying all remaining medical bills, whether she was covered or not.
He is probably just mad that he got stuck with the bill. He has only himself to blame since he is the one who made it so difficult for her to get a divorce.
Oh well. Too bad for him.
Imo

Adding a spouse is optional. I doubt he would’ve paid for her insurance while going through divorce. And if by some miracle he was, I strongly doubt she would have her medical claims go to his house. That’s HIPPA violation, as they were separated.

 

[kimch33kim]

I think we can assume JD and the kids received health insurance through Fore Group. I mean they should have some benefits in play for their employees/their family right?

He probably removed JD/and or the kids from the policy when she enraged him and left. If she didn’t want the bills going to his house then she would have had to change the billing information at the hospital.

I don’t think they violate HIPAA at all as they are not revealing the details of her medical record.

 

[Alwaystyping]

Your last sentence is right on. I was fortunate enough to train and work on Wall St. for a period and this was the overriding attitude.
Money, money and more money.
And as I've said previously we were taught well how to identify
those potential clients w/ sizeable incomes and assets.
FD was capable of doing the same and sought out women to date
based on their family money. I'm sure he was able to sleuth
JD's father's income and went after her like a shark on blood.

No sleuthing would have been required to determine the Farber fortune.

 

[1&2&3]

In CT, could they not get a divorce in those two years they were separated even though the child custody or property division was not worked out?

A temporary ruling is in place, however, the couple is free of each other and can date or marry.

 

[1&2&3]

Perhaps FD married the first time for love. His ego being so big he thought he could become the multi millionaire on his own. He didn’t need any woman’s family money!

 

[kimch33kim]

Perhaps FD married the first time for love. His ego being so big he thought he could become the multi millionaire on his own. He didn’t need any woman’s family money!

He could have married her for a green card since he might not have been a citizen at that time. I think you have 6 months to find a job in the US before you need to return to your country after graduating since the student visa will expire. But not sure about the conditions back then.

 

[SteveP]

Perhaps FD married the first time for love. His ego being so big he thought he could become the multi millionaire on his own. He didn’t need any woman’s family money!

Other than love of self, I don't think this man is capable of love.

 

[Jmoose]

MT may not have fully realized what may have happened until she was in the truck with him dropping bags into dumpsters in Hartford. IMO At that point she would need
to be extra careful with her words and actions as to not aggravate him. Being arrested may have saved her & her daughter from going back to Jefferson Crossing in Farmington.

But in the week between JD’s murder and the arrest, she stuck with him, and after her arrest, refused to cooperate. I am wondering if the word “uncooperative” was used specifically to state that they weren’t getting anywhere with her, and it wasn’t simply because she didn’t know anything. I realize that she, too, has a child to protect and had to be careful, but I just think that if I had any inkling that my lover might have brutally murdered his STBX wife, I would have grabbed my kid and gotten out of there. Cannot imagine how this is rationalized.

 

[Michigan]

Please forgive me if this is a stupid question. But let’s say someone was caught on film dumping bags full of items containing the blood of, for example, those two sweet young girls who were murdered in Delphi. Let’s say this same individual’s dna was found mixed with their blood on a faucet. If cops knew the identity of this person, doesn’t that seem like this person would immediately be arrested for their murder? Why is this same evidence not enough to arrest Dulos in Jennifer’s murder? I don’t understand why they can’t arrest him. (I guess in that case they have bodies and in this they don’t. But is the lack of a body the only reason this evidence isn’t strong enough?)

 

[spaz1959]

Adding a spouse is optional. I doubt he would’ve paid for her insurance while going through divorce. And if by some miracle he was, I strongly doubt she would have her medical claims go to his house. That’s HIPPA violation, as they were separated.

They were going through a divorce, but not divorced. She and the children would still be on insurance. EOB of children and JD would go to him. His info on Insurance Card as he is the primary. She may have changed their address, however he would be entitled to EOB of children's visits. Now, did this bill or EOB come before or after her disappearance? If medical EOB or bills not mailed to him, then how did he get this info. Unfortunately it would be very easy for MT to call Insurance company and pose as JD, under the guise of not understanding her bill. Insurance company would be happy to explain to "JD" after verifying her identify, which is name,address, DOB, and SS#.

 

[citygirl]

Please forgive me if this is a stupid question. But let’s say someone was caught on film dumping bags full of items containing the blood of, for example, those two sweet young girls who were murdered in Delphi. Let’s say this same individual’s dna was found mixed with their blood on a faucet. If cops knew the identity of this person, doesn’t that seem like this person would immediately be arrested for their murder? Why is this same evidence not enough to arrest Dulos in Jennifer’s murder? I don’t understand why they can’t arrest him. (I guess in that case they have bodies and in this they don’t. But is the lack of a body the only reason this evidence isn’t strong enough?)

My guess is they haven't needed to. He's out on bail with an ankle bracelet. Once he is charged he is entitled to a speedy trial. He's got a good lawyer and the prosecutors know that. I think they are trying to gather as much evidence as possible before they charge him. Still combing the landfill, vetting 900 tips, 80 videos from the locals,and probably many more videos from the streets. They have a lot to go on, IMO.
Did you catch the video with LE posted this morning?

 

[LittleBitty]

Please forgive me if this is a stupid question. But let’s say someone was caught on film dumping bags full of items containing the blood of, for example, those two sweet young girls who were murdered in Delphi. Let’s say this same individual’s dna was found mixed with their blood on a faucet. If cops knew the identity of this person, doesn’t that seem like this person would immediately be arrested for their murder? Why is this same evidence not enough to arrest Dulos in Jennifer’s murder? I don’t understand why they can’t arrest him. (I guess in that case they have bodies and in this they don’t. But is the lack of a body the only reason this evidence isn’t strong enough?)

I would surmise it is because LE has 900 plus tips and close to 100 videos that have been submitted on top of the videos they obtained. Thousands and thousands of hours of video to go through. Many vehicles and places to account for. It’s a timeline, cell phone data, DNA and most importantly CCTV centric case. They are trying to build as air tight of a case as they can especially if there are gaps in the timeline. jMO. I think they have enough but as many of us have posted in the last two or three threads they are being cautious and thorough. Why rush when you have his passports and a GPS tracker on FD? He is not due in court unti August 2. Once they file murder charges the real clock starts ticking and they are not unaware of Norm Pattis as an opponent.

 

[SteveP]

Please forgive me if this is a stupid question. But let’s say someone was caught on film dumping bags full of items containing the blood of, for example, those two sweet young girls who were murdered in Delphi. Let’s say this same individual’s dna was found mixed with their blood on a faucet. If cops knew the identity of this person, doesn’t that seem like this person would immediately be arrested for their murder? Why is this same evidence not enough to arrest Dulos in Jennifer’s murder? I don’t understand why they can’t arrest him. (I guess in that case they have bodies and in this they don’t. But is the lack of a body the only reason this evidence isn’t strong enough?)

Not a stupid question at all, and many here have wondered the same thing. I am not a legal scholar in any sense of the word, and I am sure there are others far more qualified to speak to this than I am, but...FD has been arrested on tampering with evidence charges, and is free on bond. He cannot leave the state of Connecticut, and has to wear a GPS monitored ankle bracelet. You can pretty much bet that he is being constantly tailed, and isn't going anywhere that LE is not fully aware of. His children are safely tucked away. I believe that IF there were no charges keeping him reigned in, then LE may attempt to get murder charges with the evidence that they currently have, and by the way, we do not know all that they have, but it is safe to assume they have considerably more than we are aware of. Right now, LE has the luxury, for lack of a better word, of taking whatever time they deem necessary to find JD's remains and as much additional evidence as they can, in order to strengthen their case when a murder charge, or charges, are brought. And I am pretty certain that it will not be much longer before they are brought, and while there is no such thing as a slam dunk when it comes to criminal trials, I believe this one will be successfully prosecuted. JMO

 

[Kapua]

Please forgive me if this is a stupid question. But let’s say someone was caught on film dumping bags full of items containing the blood of, for example, those two sweet young girls who were murdered in Delphi. Let’s say this same individual’s dna was found mixed with their blood on a faucet. If cops knew the identity of this person, doesn’t that seem like this person would immediately be arrested for their murder? Why is this same evidence not enough to arrest Dulos in Jennifer’s murder? I don’t understand why they can’t arrest him. (I guess in that case they have bodies and in this they don’t. But is the lack of a body the only reason this evidence isn’t strong enough?)

They can arrest him any time. However, having followed a few similar cases, it is my opinion that LE likes to recover the body if at all possible. The first case I ever sleuthed was Scott and Laci Peterson. LE had quite a bit of circumstantial evidence against Scott, but they waited to arrest him until they recovered the bodies of Laci and Conner. It took four months. IMHO, LE wants to build the strongest possible case.

 

[oviedo]

@CT_STATE_POLICE
shared video from this morning of an investigator with a K9 still searching for evidence connected to disappearance of #JenniferDulos at the MIRA trash plant in Hartford.
@NBCConnecticut
#NBCCT (link: http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Family-of-Missing-New-Canaan-Mother-Jennifer-Dulos-Releases-New-Statement-511639391.html) nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Fa
@jscheckerNBCCT
Here’s a better video inside the plant of a State Police K9 sniffing through trash for evidence in the #JenniferDulos investigation. Evidence recovered from Albany Ave the night the mother of 5 vanished led investigators to the MIRA facility in Hartford.
@NBCConnecticut


Justin Schecker on Twitter
And one more video from State Police showing investigators using rakes to go through the piles of trash in the MIRA plant. This gives an idea of the painstaking search for evidence that’s been happening since early June. #JenniferDulos #NBCCT

How in the world are they able to spot anything in that? I can’t comprehend how truly awful work this is and I admire them all so much - I still believe something significant led them to search this intensely - thanks all for posting today’s news I’ve updated the media thread