Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 #12 *ARRESTS*

[BellaVita]

When your phone is off, neither the Location feature nor the cell towers will be able to find it.

What if you get a call or text? I read somewhere once that to be totally dark, you would have to remove the battery?

 

[HopeForTheBest]

That’s about as good explanation as any I can come up with - her friends very likely knew the contentious divorce details and were worried - I would contact the STbX if it were me JMO (I still think there is a possibility of the kids or her mom contacting him )

You might not if you knew enough about him to know why they had to sneak off to get away from him. I’m not arguing; I’m just saying.

 

[HopeForTheBest]

If your sister or friend was already embroiled in a bad divorce with a bad man, you probably wouldnt, JMO

Oops! I just said this! Sorry!

 

[iQuill]

Rena ... you didn’t mention the trash bags containing JD’s bloody clothing that FD and MT disposed of ... you didn’t mention the altered license plates FD put down the storm drain... I wonder about your understanding of the word “relevant”. MOO

 

[sds71]

Another one
177.00 07/01/2019 D MOTION FOR PERMISSION TO WITHDRAW APPEARANCE

http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/DocumentInquiry/DocumentInquiry.aspx?DocumentNo=17254833

 

[HopeForTheBest]

I know I keep going back to a 55-gallon drum but the concrete also makes me think that because people used to/may still put things they want to get rid of in a drum, put in concrete to make it heavy, hammer the lid on, and dump the drum in water. Lots of environmental contamination used to go that way. Even soil would work to weigh it down. It’d be heavy to get up into a truck bed—banging would occur for sure as you rolled it in there. Also, and I hate to say this, but even in the country, you often can smell something like a deceased raccoon or deer if it’s out in the open, and surely people looked for buzzards right after. On the lye, etc., if a drum were found still sealed, I imagine a chemist could ascertain that something else had been there, too, based on the laws of mass and all that—or something!

 

[HopeForTheBest]

I just took the time ( ) to read FD’s sister’s statement. All I can say is... my ex’s sister would and did say the same garbage. She didn’t know. She wasn’t married to him. He was the little boy she knew, loved and grew up with - not the true monster he had grown up to become.

It’s kind of why when they ask for references for a job, they usually exclude family members. I feel as though her doubt seeps through...whistling in the dark walking past the graveyard. It’d break my heart, too, if it were someone I loved—especially if in the depth of night, I had to admit to myself that maybe it was so.

 

[HopeForTheBest]

And how can you forget about pings going all through Hartford? Thank goodness for stupidity/high on drugs, I guess.

Ignorance of technology and arrogance of entitlement. MOO.

 

[NCmom99]

All true from what we've seen from LE and MSM here. Just referring back to earlier threads, when JD went missing, The Fore Group, Inc. website only listed 1 employee, FD.

So if MT did some work for the company, IMO it was financial and PR in nature, and FD did most of the 'work' 'from his home office', and sometimes hired 'subs' on properties, still the properties 'weren't moving', which is why at the time of JD's disappearance, he owed her parents at least $2.5 million dollars. Again, the financial aspect.

ETA: Michelle Troconis has been working with Fotis Dulos at Fore Group, his luxury custom home building company, which is based at the Farmington home where they live together. It is not clear if Troconis was working for the company before she became romantically involved with Fotis Dulos.
Michelle Troconis: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know | Heavy.com

Forgive me since I'm many pages behind but I have long wondered about MT's depth of involvement with the FORE group. My best personal speculation is that FD created some sort of role for her with the company after he first instigated the affair (a year prior to Jennifer's knowledge of the actual affair) as an excuse to have her relocate to CT and have easy access to her under his thumb. He may or may not have done this with the intention of her providing actual value to the business. And if he was in control of the books could have provided her with a salary either way just to be readily available to him. IMO only.

 

[LittleBitty]

Wow! Such amazing posts to come back to after such a stressful weekend! So many great ideas/theories!

Thought: Assume that MT and FD are not secretly collaborating together and that she truly wants no part of Pattis pitter patter and FoDu’s crock of an alibi for the morning hours of the 24th. Further assume that MT was nowhere near NC during that same time frame and that our damsel under duress was fearlessly returning a fabulous designer purse to a pal and gabbing about souvlaki recipes with another...It would be obvious assuming the above that FD (as my best friend and poster pointed out—though she’s just lurking right now) NEEDS MT more than she needs him.

I mentioned in the previous thread (I think) that it’s not enough to say she came home (4 Jefferson Crossing) after her “errands” around 11:00’ish am and FD was right there waiting at home, eager to enact some creepy version of the movie “9 and 1/2 Weeks” with tzatziki and feta cheese. She must also be able to say that FD was there when she left on her scavenger hunt or whatever she was doing that morning.

This is intriguing to me. The more I think about it the more I truly believe that he left much earlier that morning like 2-4 am on the 24th. Maybe he went to the Sturbridge Hill address until it was time for JD to drop off the kids.

Regardless, we know that we would be able to see any cars entering and leaving the driveway of 4 Jefferson Crossing from two of the neighbors surveillance cameras. It is also entirely possible that FD knew his neighbors had cameras and walked to another location (Mountain Spring, Deercliff (which is the closest .4 miles) where his vehicle was waiting for him and he did not approach the mouth of the driveway.

Another thought: LE has said very little and pretty much made it routine since JDs disappearance not to comment on much of the searches outside of Waveny Park and MIRA. Most of our information about Fore Group, LLC properties or any other areas have come from MSM. Re: what if the loud banging sound coming from 61 Sturbridge Hill was LE? I know many posters believe it’s linked to JDs disappearance and possible disposal of remains/evidence. But within an hour or so of her being reported missing LE was already checking out FD and was aware of FD. He only had one NC property and much of the early hours after she was reported missing were focused on Waveny Park. But we know from MSM that the address has been searched at least 3 times along with a metal dumpster. Is it possible that LE went onto the property? Since it was within miles of her home? Searched the dumpster etc... at that time as well? A wellness search done based on emergency—blood found in the garage? Just a thought.

Third thought: I find all of the speculation about when FD “learned” there was a Silver Alert for JD very important and also fascinating. I am of the opinion he learned sometime within an hour or two of her being reported missing OR an hour or two of the Amber Alert being issued. Obviously he was aware the morning of the 25th. I was thinking LE contacted him fairly early on. I say this because JDs family and friends were very much aware of how dangerous FD was to Jennifer. Just like the friend who was on the phone with 911 when Travis Alexander was found murdered who said Jodi Arias name on the call. I believe LE was very aware from the time her friends reported her missing at 6:59 pm on May 24th of Fotis Dulos and once they saw the blood in the garage...the Arrest Warrant says early on that LE was aware of not only his many properties but many vehicles as well.

All of the above is MOO of course. Finally caught up on all of the posts. Lol.

 

[NCmom99]

I'm thinking they don't have the personnel that would be needed to do large scale non-targeted searches in the NC, Farmington environs and all of the places in between.

I know very little about the process but imagine they still have resources allocated towards going through hours and hours of camera footage, chasing down loose threads to the 1000 leads, etc. Of course they need to be strategic in allocating what are not unlimited resources since obviously this is not the only unsolved case currently in process across the state of CT - but IMO both the NC police and the state of CT have been very generous to this case. I'm personally looking forward to being proud to learn more about the results of all those efforts - and I further hope that all their hard work will send a message to deter this type of behavior in the future.

 

[MemPat]

It’s a pretty good way to avoid making declarations. People do it a lot as a type of logical fallacy.

In Statement Analysis they teach that the brain struggles with telling outright lies and will go through all sorts of machinations to avoid it.

I agree with you, Hope, that asking these stylized questions lets sister-girl say a lot without really committing to anything.

She knows he isn't a good guy and she knows he's guilty.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Ignorance of technology and arrogance of entitlement. MOO.

I think money has allowed FD to get away with so much over the years that he really didn’t think LE would suspect his pompous a55.
jmo

 

[NCmom99]

See the article regarding the 7-yr old boy that offered his savings as a reward for information. The Farber family says that they believe LE is best equipped to handle the search. Sorry, I do not know how to attach the link.

Again I risk being out of date with my reply since I am behind on this thread, but IIRC the 7 year old's gofundme initiative was already refuted by MSM as an opportunistic hoax.

 

[CarefullyTaught]

He did t deserve Farmington or Avon either. I saw on the FORE site when it had a space for reviews , people from town who he did business with were slamming him - even the banker

I totally agree @Bulldogs2 and thank you for pointing out the negative business reviews on the FoRe site!

I apologize for referencing the wrong location in my earlier rant — I had gotten the locations of all the Farmington, Avon, and New Canaan FoRe Group developed properties or FoRe owned lots mixed up in my head!

To be sure, FD never deserved the trust, hospitality, good will, patronage, beauty, or community of any of these neighborhoods, schools, businesses, or communities! They are all so warm, welcoming, amazing, and gorgeous!

It’s also insulting to think FD sunk lower still with every move he made in this murder plot just trying to pin this on Hartford and assuming he could step on and screw over everyone everywhere he went.

I’m a native of the area and I so miss it. I’m with you there in spirit though and so much appreciate all the efforts and contributions and kindness on behalf of Jennifer and her friends and family — how welcoming, sheltering, engaged, and supportive everyone has been.

FD can’t twist this his way and think he’s going to get away with this — no matter how good NP is or how dumb they think the rest of us are.

FD thought he would terrorize and traumatize the whole area thinking a shadowy killer was on the loose dragging mothers off the jogging trail at Waveny and that then everyone would weep for that poor sweet man FD who just lost his wife and now has to shepherd their five little angels through this grief while himself grieving. That these communities where they lived, worked, studied, competed, and played would all rally around FD.

I don’t think so.

I can’t imagine how he ever thought he would appear like the victim here or in any way a sympathetic human being.

Maybe at some point he started believing in his own private Boerne identity.

But I don’t think so.

He’s just a dirt bag con. And not even very good at that either. He’s a parasite. I can’t imagine his act is really fooling anyone.

 

[MemPat]

I don't know what other people do, but I limit my Facebook to actual friends and occasional friends of friends with whom I share interests. MOO

That's such a good thing to do, Kapua. I have a couple of annoying people who float in that gray area where I don't interact but they attract my curiosity. Glutton for punishment!

 

[NCmom99]

You know some of what you write has a ring of truth to it! I definitely agree that FD didn't factor in that JD disappearance would be reported so quickly. Like your thoughts on FD using the train tracks and poison Ivy being there. I do not know this area in CT at all, so I'm wondering would going the route of the train tracks have been faster for FD to take?

Yes. As a local who tried to analyze the options for either a runner or bicyclist in [indistinguishable] full gear to travel regular roads and accomplish this route in either direction as needed in short time felt feasible from the get go. The new suggestion of the train tracks did not occur to me but makes such sense and IMO could definitely cut time off - so worth considering. And based on all the theories here, the poison ivy was inevitable in about 7 different places so practically irrelevant!

 

[MemPat]

I totally agree @Bulldogs2 and thank you for pointing out the negative business reviews on the FoRe site!

I apologize for referencing the wrong location in my earlier rant — I had gotten the locations of all the Farmington, Avon, and New Canaan FoRe Group developed properties or FoRe owned lots mixed up in my head!

To be sure, FD never deserved the trust, hospitality, good will, patronage, beauty, or community of any of these neighborhoods, schools, businesses, or communities! They are all so warm, welcoming, amazing, and gorgeous!

It’s also insulting to think FD sunk lower still with every move he made in this murder plot just trying to pin this on Hartford and assuming he could step on and screw over everyone everywhere he went.

I’m a native of the area and I so miss it. I’m with you there in spirit though and so much appreciate all the efforts and contributions and kindness on behalf of Jennifer and her friends and family — how welcoming, sheltering, engaged, and supportive everyone has been.

FD can’t twist this his way and think he’s going to get away with this — no matter how good NP is or how dumb they think the rest of us are.

FD thought he would terrorize and traumatize the whole area thinking a shadowy killer was on the loose dragging mothers off the jogging trail at Waveny and that then everyone would weep for that poor sweet man FD who just lost his wife and now has to shepherd their five little angels through this grief while himself grieving. That these communities where they lived, worked, studied, competed, and played would all rally around FD.

I don’t think so.

I can’t imagine how he ever thought he would appear like the victim here or in any way a sympathetic human being.

Maybe at some point he started believing in his own private Boerne identity.

But I don’t think so.

He’s just a dirt bag con. And not even very good at that either. He’s a parasite. I can’t imagine his act is really fooling anyone.

Not even his big sister.

 

[CarefullyTaught]

Ignorance of technology and arrogance of entitlement. MOO.

Well phrased and spot on @HopeForTheBest !

 

[Tink56]

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