Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 #13 *ARRESTS*

[afitzy]

I looked at Connecticut map last night. If he drove to Hartford, he certainly could have driven to the ocean. I’m with you on driving 50 miles. Just think it was ocean. And if she was bloody, “plenty of (hungry) fish in the sea.” Sick interpretation of quote. She could have found another man. There are plenty of fish in the sea, as the saying goes.. but in the end, the fish in the sea that she caught, may have eaten her. Euk.

You are correct that the CT coastline offers access to significant opportunities to dispose of a body. Fairfield and New Haven Counties (and Westchester County, NY) and Nassau and Suffolk Counties, NY border on Long Island Sound. Here is basic map:
Google Maps

Long Island Sound is tidal and salt water and has some commercial fishing and commercial barge traffic and runs down the length of CT, into Westchester County and eventually NYC (from Greenwich, CT on the water you can see the NYC skyline on a clear day). In general except in the commercial corridors of Long Island Sound its not very deep (less than 20 ft and oftentimes less) at mean low tide in many places. Someone long time ago wrote to describe Long Island Sound as a 'big bathtub' that runs from NYC to New London and this describes well how the water in the Sound churns around and while at one end the water moves into the Block Island Sound and at the other end the East River and eventually lower Manhattan/Hudson, in general the water in the Sound doesn't move around too much. In general things that are dumped in the Sound stay in the Sound and so bodies have been found along the CT shoreline over the years and usually those bodies were dumped not too far away in the Sound. My point for bringing this up is if you wanted to get rid of a body and not have it resurface in another section of the Sound IMO you would need to go beyond Montauk, NY and go beyond the Block Island Sound into the Atlantic. In order to accomplish this takes a good bit of time, good navigation skills and decent weather and a solid craft IMO as the Atlantic can be unpredictable and quite choppy. This isn't a casual daytrip either for an inexperienced sailor IMO either so unless FD or someone known to him was a good sailor this trip would take a bit of doing IMO.

The CT shoreline has long stretches of marshlands, state parks and town parks and much is residential housing along with commerical enterprises (google Shoreham Nuclear Plant which is located on the Sound). The major harbors in Fairfield County are Greenwich, Stamford, Norwalk and Bridgeport. There is a ferry that runs from Bridgeport to Port Jefferson on Long Island. In CT once you pass New London, CT (and Montauk, NY on Long Island) Long Island Sound turns into Block Island Sound and then once you pass through Block Island Sound you are in the Atlantic Ocean. There are some strong natural currents in the Long Island Sound near where it meets the Block Island Sound and there is an almost 'churning effect' that sometimes is visible.

Hope this helps to explain the coast a bit better for those not familiar with the region. I've tried to simplify the description of the Sound quite a bit to make it somewhat easier to understand so apologies to any experienced sailors out there that might read this! Experienced sailors can take a look at a nautical chart and grasp what I've been trying to explain about the area that while not a large area is varied and has its own complexities in terms of basic navigation.

 

[Midwestmom2019]

IMO the loud banging happened, and could be relevant, regardless of whether it was heard by a homeowner or anyone present in the neighborhood, and especially since the dogs that started barking ended up barking for hours (BBM). Investigated by LE and happened within less than 24 hours since JD went missing, at a remote property owned by her estranged husband. Occam's razor IMO. LE hasn't made any statements detailing follow up or verification of anything reported in MSM, so for all the public knows, it was a tip they did follow up on, at least by searching the property three times per MSM below.

Jennifer Dulos search leads to New Canaan house where loud banging heard after she disappeared
Neighbors of a Sturbridge Hill Road home being developed by Jennifer Dulos’ estranged husband were woken up the morning after her disappearance by the loud sounds of metal banging coming from the property.

The sounds woke up residents and had dogs barking for hours early on May 25 — the day after Jennifer Dulos was reported missing.

Jennifer Dulos search leads to New Canaan house where loud banging heard after she disappeared
Neighbors of a Sturbridge Hill Road home being developed by Jennifer Dulos’ estranged husband were woken up the morning after her disappearance by the loud sounds of metal banging coming from the property.

The sounds woke up residents and had dogs barking for hours early on May 25 — the day after Jennifer Dulos was reported missing.

Socialite girlfriend of man whose wife is missing gives ‘confession’
A neighbor of one Dulos property reported hearing loud metal banging in early morning of May 25, one day after Jennifer Dulos disappeared. Authorities have been seen at the site repeatedly.

Jennifer Dulos case: Loud bangs at New Canaan home; Michelle Troconis meets with authorities
Jennifer Dulos case: Loud bangs at New Canaan home

https://www.anglenews.com/police-investigate-loud-banging-inside-missing-connecticut-mothers-home/
Neighbors near the home of a mother-of-five’s estranged husband claimed they heard ‘loud banging’ at the property on the day she was reported missing.
One neighbor told The Stamford Advocate the loud sounds of metal banging on the property woke someone up in his home during the early morning hours of May 25 — the day after Jennifer Dulos was reported missing.

The man said the sound led neighborhood dogs to start barking. He said police have been to the neighborhood three times in the past two weeks.

Missing New Canaan woman Jennifer Dulos case: Girlfriend of Fotis Dulos meets with investigators

That’s why I’m terrified that it might have been JD, coming around after being bludgeoned, and kicking the sides of the container to attract attention. Gagged. Tied up and could only scoot along until she could kick the walls. Those containers are 30-40 cubic yards big. More than enough room for a body.
Usually construction debris is piled up over the top before the landfill driver comes around to pick it up for disposal. Contractor usually jumps up and down on it to reduce it to a level that is even with the top of the container. I didn’t see anything over the top...

 

[citygirl]

You are correct that the CT coastline offers access to significant opportunities to dispose of a body. Fairfield and New Haven Counties (and Westchester County, NY) and Nassau and Suffolk Counties, NY border on Long Island Sound. Here is basic map:
Google Maps

Long Island Sound is tidal and salt water and has some commercial fishing and commercial barge traffic and runs down the length of CT, into Westchester County and eventually NYC (from Greenwich, CT on the water you can see the NYC skyline on a clear day). In general except in the commercial corridors of Long Island Sound its not very deep (less than 20 ft and oftentimes less) at mean low tide in many places. Someone long time ago wrote to describe Long Island Sound as a 'big bathtub' that runs from NYC to New London and this describes well how the water in the Sound churns around and while at one end the water moves into the Block Island Sound and at the other end the East River and eventually lower Manhattan/Hudson, in general the water in the Sound doesn't move around too much. In general things that are dumped in the Sound stay in the Sound and so bodies have been found along the CT shoreline over the years and usually those bodies were dumped not too far away in the Sound. My point for bringing this up is if you wanted to get rid of a body and not have it resurface in another section of the Sound IMO you would need to go beyond Montauk, NY and go beyond the Block Island Sound into the Atlantic. In order to accomplish this takes a good bit of time, good navigation skills and decent weather and a solid craft IMO as the Atlantic can be unpredictable and quite choppy. This isn't a casual daytrip either for an inexperienced sailor IMO either so unless FD or someone known to him was a good sailor this trip would take a bit of doing IMO.

The CT shoreline has long stretches of marshlands, state parks and town parks and much is residential housing along with commerical enterprises (google Shoreham Nuclear Plant which is located on the Sound). The major harbors in Fairfield County are Greenwich, Stamford, Norwalk and Bridgeport. There is a ferry that runs from Bridgeport to Port Jefferson on Long Island. In CT once you pass New London, CT (and Montauk, NY on Long Island) Long Island Sound turns into Block Island Sound and then once you pass through Block Island Sound you are in the Atlantic Ocean. There are some strong natural currents in the Long Island Sound near where it meets the Block Island Sound and there is an almost 'churning effect' that sometimes is visible.

Hope this helps to explain the coast a bit better for those not familiar with the region. I've tried to simplify the description of the Sound quite a bit to make it somewhat easier to understand so apologies to any experienced sailors out there that might read this! Experienced sailors can take a look at a nautical chart and grasp what I've been trying to explain about the area that while not a large area is varied and has its own complexities in terms of basic navigation.

You are the best! Always got a kick out of the Greenwich Darien people going to the beach. UGH. Amazing how the water and beach changes once you get to Block Island Sound. Night and day. MOO.
And I agree. No dumping of the body there.No need to.

 

[afitzy]

That’s why I’m terrified that might have been JD, coming around after being bludgeoned, and kicking the sides of the container to attract attention. Gagged. Tied up and could only scoot wrong to kick the walls. Those containers are 30-40 cubic yards big. More than

That’s why I’m terrified that it might have been JD, coming around after being bludgeoned, and kicking the sides of the container to attract attention. Gagged. Tied up and could only scoot along until she could kick the walls. Those containers are 30-40 cubic yards big. More than enough room for a body.
Usually construction debris is piled up over the top before the landfill driver comes around to pick it up for disposal. Contractor usually jumps up and down on it to reduce it to a level that is even with the top of the container. I didn’t see anything over the top...

The State Crime van spent an entire day at the Sturbridge house a couple of weeks ago (see picture posted in prior thread that I took). On that date the red dumpster appeared empty or nothing protruded over the top as seen from the road.

I wonder though what the dumpster looked like prior to the missing date? I wish now that I had taken a picture of the property earlier in the process to see if the dumpster had been tipped or if there was another dumpster that was removed by LE? IDK. I've long suspected that Sturbridge played some role in what happened to JD even if it was just a place for FD or whomever to do recon on JD/Welles under the guise of finishing a construction project.

I would think that if Stubridge were significant that LE would not be permitting FD to remove items and be 'cleaning and sweeping' the property or allow him to bring family members to the property. MOO

 

[Midwestmom2019]

I also missed the reports about the drains..I certainly haven't read or watched or listened to all the msm's, but would love to do so. Was this a recent report?

I’ve tried to read everything on msm sites along with several social sites. Nada por nada.

 

[afitzy]

Was it LE or a reporter who said LE was honing in on the 2 drains,
one at Sturbridge and one at JC?
I think this was a leak from LE that that information is part of the
whole puzzle of what they think happened to her. I'm sure LE
has the whole puzzle put together by now and I'm optimistic
they will go after FD as soon as they can.

We saw LE searching the drains at JC (reporter tweeted picture and that picture ended up on WS in prior thread). IDK about Sturbridge search other than the State Police Crime Van was at the property once that I saw for nearly 8 hrs.

 

[3blue1pink]

I’ve been doing a lot reading today . A couple of questions that I have are
1. Who was scheduled to pick up the kids after school? Seems odd that a day she wasn’t the one picking them up is the day she disappeared.
2. I’ve never been divorced, so I’m unfamiliar with how long this process takes but it seems 2 years is a long time to still be married after filing.
3. Who is currently funding FD ? If his business is failing and owes millions of dollars where is he getting his $ from ?
4. Where are all of his friends and advocates speaking up about what stand up great guy he is ? I have yet to read anything about his family supporting him . Seems odd..
Love your thoughts

 

[afitzy]

Speaking of Pattis , how is FD paying his attorney ? Surely he has been cut off from JD ‘s funds ? MT obviously has familial help but does he as well? I’m sure Norm isn’t doing this pro bono.

We don't know. I'd guessed movie/book rights, exclusive interview rights at some point and collateral in the form of everything that GF and other litigation hasn't slapped a lien on. No Case Norm was focused on gaining access to the FD 401K and IMO when the Judge told him that wasn't happened he looked like he had swallowed a lemon whole. MOO

 

[kay74]

It just dawned on me that FD built all the houses on Jefferson Crossing. I know most people feel his houses aren't that great, but to me they are stunning.
And @Hazelnutty , the entire state is beautiful. I no longer live there and when I see the beautiful pics it is bittersweet for me. Each town has it's own flavor and history. Was a wonderful place to raise children. Tons of private schools and all the public schools were quite good.

All this success with these homes and he blows it all with a girlfriend, then says he cares about his kids! Takes their mother away they loved and wants these kids to live with him and his girlfriend. What a guy!

 

[Tink56]

Here you go:

“Jefferson Crossing in Farmington, part an enclave Dulos developed, is the subject of a separate legal action filed by his father-in-law’s estate. That lawsuit claims Dulos hasn’t made a mortgage payment on the home since the end of 2018, court documents show.

The estate is seeking full repayment of a $500,000 promissory note from 2012, of which nearly $180,000 is not paid. The note came due on July 1, 2017. In addition, the estate is pushing to collect the remainder of a $2.3 million mortgage, a refinancing of 4 Jefferson that Hilliard and Gloria Farber guaranteed.”

Before being jailed in connection with the disappearance of Jennifer Farber Dulos, her estranged husband, Fotis Dulos, faced a downward spiral in his business and marriage

The Hartford Courant, Stamford Advocate and the New Canaanite have all covered the estate of HF v. FoDu in much detail. Most of the articles are comprehensive but confusing. You almost need to reference more than one to get all the details. The one I linked is the most comprehensive one I have seen apart from one other.

Many thanks! This makes things much clearer.

 

[3blue1pink]

All this success with these homes and he blows it all with a girlfriend, then says he cares about his kids! Takes their mother away they loved and wants these kids to live with him and his girlfriend. What a guy!

IKR .... He tells the judge during divorce proceedings that his business is hemorrhaging money and he can’t afford a divorce attorney nor can he keep providing medical coverage for his kids .. and then turns around and goes to Europe with MT!

 

[3blue1pink]

We don't know. I'd guessed movie/book rights, exclusive interview rights at some point and collateral in the form of everything that GF and other litigation hasn't slapped a lien on. No Case Norm was focused on gaining access to the FD 401K and IMO when the Judge told him that wasn't happened he looked like he had swallowed a lemon whole. MOO

Makes me wonder if Pattis went to him or the other way around ?

 

[peace9274]

We don't know. I'd guessed movie/book rights, exclusive interview rights at some point and collateral in the form of everything that GF and other litigation hasn't slapped a lien on. No Case Norm was focused on gaining access to the FD 401K and IMO when the Judge told him that wasn't happened he looked like he had swallowed a lemon whole. MOO

Link to the Son of Sam law (& revisions) in CT


(A Son of Sam law is an American English term for any law designed to keep criminals from profiting from the publicity of their crimes, often by selling their stories to publishers.)

Profiting from Crime


Connecticut's “Son of Sam” Statute:

“The law prevents a person accused of a crime of violence from keeping profits or royalties from any book, movie, radio or television program, live entertainment of any kind, etc., which (1) re-enacts the violent crime or (2) is about the defendant's thoughts or feelings about a crime.

The law obligates the party that contracts with the defendant to pay any funds owed to him into a escrow account established by the Office of Victim Services.

The account is available for the defendant's legal defense and, if the defendant is convicted, to satisfy any crime victim's money judgment for damages.

The action for damages must be filed within five years from the date of the crime. If no victim obtains a judgment within the five years, the money in the account must be deposited in the Criminal Injuries Compensation Fund.

The money in the account must be returned to the defendant if there is an affirmative finding within the five years that he did not commit the crime (CGS § 54-218).”

 

[3blue1pink]

So apparently the Farmington house is up for sale .. FD defaulted on mortgage payments and the bank started holding GF as the co signer accountable . My question is where is he living now, still in that house ?

 

[afitzy]

IKR .... He tells the judge during divorce proceedings that his business is hemorrhaging money and he can’t afford a divorce attorney nor can he keep providing medical coverage for his kids .. and then turns around and goes to Europe with MT!

Yes, the stories and excuses by FD to Family Court about his finances and lack of cash to meet basic obligations read like a modern day pulp version science fiction IMO. At this point I believe that whatever money MT got for child support was going to support FD lifestyle no different than JD had done previously IMO.

At one point FD asked the court for JD to pay for his atty fees as his income at the time was allegedly $50,000 or so for the year. I believe this was shortly after the sale of Hemlock house in NC and JD was understandably miffed that profit from this project somehow didn't 'figure' into FD definition of income.

All I can say is that I hope somewhere and someplace in the CT judiciary that some judge with oversight capabilities looks at the charade that played out in Judge Heller's courtroom with no consequences to FD and to the detriment financially of JD and her children and does something about the process as had there been financial disclosure and resolution of financial matters shortly after the divorce that custody could have also been resolved and the divorce wrapped up. But the CT system doesn't make it easy for couples with money to get divorced easily or inexpensively IMO.

 

[peace9274]

You are correct that the CT coastline offers access to significant opportunities to dispose of a body. Fairfield and New Haven Counties (and Westchester County, NY) and Nassau and Suffolk Counties, NY border on Long Island Sound. Here is basic map:
Google Maps

Long Island Sound is tidal and salt water and has some commercial fishing and commercial barge traffic and runs down the length of CT, into Westchester County and eventually NYC (from Greenwich, CT on the water you can see the NYC skyline on a clear day). In general except in the commercial corridors of Long Island Sound its not very deep (less than 20 ft and oftentimes less) at mean low tide in many places. Someone long time ago wrote to describe Long Island Sound as a 'big bathtub' that runs from NYC to New London and this describes well how the water in the Sound churns around and while at one end the water moves into the Block Island Sound and at the other end the East River and eventually lower Manhattan/Hudson, in general the water in the Sound doesn't move around too much. In general things that are dumped in the Sound stay in the Sound and so bodies have been found along the CT shoreline over the years and usually those bodies were dumped not too far away in the Sound. My point for bringing this up is if you wanted to get rid of a body and not have it resurface in another section of the Sound IMO you would need to go beyond Montauk, NY and go beyond the Block Island Sound into the Atlantic. In order to accomplish this takes a good bit of time, good navigation skills and decent weather and a solid craft IMO as the Atlantic can be unpredictable and quite choppy. This isn't a casual daytrip either for an inexperienced sailor IMO either so unless FD or someone known to him was a good sailor this trip would take a bit of doing IMO.

The CT shoreline has long stretches of marshlands, state parks and town parks and much is residential housing along with commerical enterprises (google Shoreham Nuclear Plant which is located on the Sound). The major harbors in Fairfield County are Greenwich, Stamford, Norwalk and Bridgeport. There is a ferry that runs from Bridgeport to Port Jefferson on Long Island. In CT once you pass New London, CT (and Montauk, NY on Long Island) Long Island Sound turns into Block Island Sound and then once you pass through Block Island Sound you are in the Atlantic Ocean. There are some strong natural currents in the Long Island Sound near where it meets the Block Island Sound and there is an almost 'churning effect' that sometimes is visible.

Hope this helps to explain the coast a bit better for those not familiar with the region. I've tried to simplify the description of the Sound quite a bit to make it somewhat easier to understand so apologies to any experienced sailors out there that might read this! Experienced sailors can take a look at a nautical chart and grasp what I've been trying to explain about the area that while not a large area is varied and has its own complexities in terms of basic navigation.

Excellent job of taking me down memory lane! I lived in Fairfield County for ~ 40 yrs before I retired and moved to AZ.

I spent many days and week-ends boating & sailing Long Island Sound. Went to Montauk, Block Island and the Cape during holidays!

Your description of CT, the Coastline, & LI Sound is perfect!

 

[MrFixit]

West Hartford Resevoir. 7/6

 

[afitzy]

So apparently the Farmington house is up for sale .. FD defaulted on mortgage payments and the bank started holding GF as the co signer accountable . My question is where is he living now, still in that house ?

Yes, he is still living there and its where the Channel 4 interview was filmed the other day.

Excellent job of taking me down memory lane! I lived in Fairfield County for ~ 40 yrs before I retired and moved to AZ.

I spent many days and week-ends boating & sailing Long Island Sound. Went to Montauk, Block Island and the Cape during holidays!

Your description of CT & LI Sound is perfect!

Glad you enjoyed it. If the weather were better I would head out and take some water shots but its been rough weather for boating recently and this holiday was mostly a washout for longer journeys due to clusters of electrical storms and periodic high winds.

 

[afitzy]

West Hartford Resevoir. 7/6
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Great pics! Did you see any poison ivy? Once I started looking for it I saw it all over Waveny. I guess with the spring we had here in the area that poison ivy is doing well this year. Wonder where FD ran into the poison ivy!

 

[citygirl]

So apparently the Farmington house is up for sale .. FD defaulted on mortgage payments and the bank started holding GF as the co signer accountable . My question is where is he living now, still in that house ?

He is in that house. Priced for 4+million. Way over the top for Farmington.