Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 #14 *ARRESTS*

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  • #661
I am probably the oldest and most narrow minded person on WS and I see MT as spoiled, devious and with a lot of connections that might lead to risky, dangerous activity. Until it is proven she is innocent I don’t feel safe with her in an unknown location in NY. Please forgive me if I shouldn’t have said this.
Can't disagree with you and you are entitled to you own POV always. I do think that the judge in releasing MT and FD should have made it clearer that an analysis had been done as to whether either of these 2 individuals represented a threat to the public, themselves or FD family and children. Such a statement was never made but I would be surprised if the judge didn't consider the issues surrounding releasing these 2 into the general population.

But, I wish the judge or NCPD Chief had made a statement about public safety with MT/FD out on bail and I think many would have felt a bit safer. I am concerned about the impact of mental state of both of these individuals due to the awful circumstances and I hope LE has them closely monitored.
 
  • #662
It was Sturbridge. However, this was way out of the ordinary and I think it had a lot to do with the fact that she was a young person. Her parents would not have done this or perhaps she was new to this area of CT.

A nanny?
If it’s the young lady I saw, I noted that she was wearing a strap tee top and thinking ‘not what I would have thought to be the “dress code” in that area.’
Next thought was: “she’s very young to be married to someone who has already made it into this circle. How’d she do that?” McMansions and all.
Even a young trophy wife would have been dressed differently, IMHO.
 
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Can't disagree with you and you are entitled to you own POV always. I do think that the judge in releasing MT and FD should have made it clearer that an analysis had been done as to whether either of these 2 individuals represented a threat to the public, themselves or FD family and children. Such a statement was never made but I would be surprised if the judge didn't consider the issues surrounding releasing these 2 into the general population.

But, I wish the judge or NCPD Chief had made a statement about public safety with MT/FD out on bail and I think many would have felt a bit safer. I am concerned about the impact of mental state of both of these individuals due to the awful circumstances and I hope LE has them closely monitored.
Agree about not having made a judicial statement, but what I've observed in other cases and reading on the danger to the public,
most cases involving homicide toward a close family member,
judges and LE believe that the public, in general, is not in danger. They believe the target was personal to the perp(s),
that the perp(s) have no violence toward the public or unknown persons in their past and therefore not a threat to unknown persons now. Also I wonder if judges think that now that charges have been brought in a crime against a family member, if the perp will be on his or her best behavior as they're walking on thin
ice already.
IDK, I've seen releases on bond go both ways and I'm sure there's
lots more criteria involved that we're not aware of. It does seem
that having money and access to good attorneys can play a role
with judges.
Also we still don't have a body so he's presumed innocent til
murder charges have been issued.
Right now he's just a trash dumper and the trash happened to have her blood on it.
 
  • #664
I have a different take on MT's work history oversees in the Middle East. Typically females who work in and around horse therapy groups are doing it as sort of a fun, volunteer activity because they enjoy horsey activities and gives them some activity
to do w/ horses and still help needy people.
My thoughts have always been that MT does go after serious
athletic guys who seem to have money.
The middle east is filled w/ wealthy sheiks and their families
who own and enjoy race horses both locally and in US.
My guess is she met one in US around the racing circles in
South Fl. and was invited to accompany him home to Middle
East and she could get involved in a volunteer position in horse
therapy. I believe she was a concubine for one of these wealthy
horse owners. Would also fit with her attraction to the hard driving, narcissistic, macho men who happen to appear wealthy.
The stint at ESPM was short term and came from her connection
w/ world class snow skiing through her ex baby daddy.
It seems she's good at meeting men and leveraging her romantic
affiliations w/ positions connected to these men.

Hmm.....

According to the LinkedIn profile and articles I've seen, after she graduated from university in Venezuela in 1998, she spent time in 1999 at the Cheff Center in Michigan, a well established equine therapy center: Cheff Therapeutic Riding Center.

Then she from 2000 to October 2003, she was in UAE at Ghantood Racing and Polo Club (Abu Dhabi, UAE) where she worked in publicity (https://www.grpc.ae/video-gallery-2017/). She was also at the Riding for the Disabled Association (Dubai, UAE) from Feb. 2001 to October 2003 where she did equine therapy (
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Part of her role at the Polo Club was coordinating visits from several Argentinian polo clubs. She does not appear to be the only person in her family who has had connections to horse-related activities and Argentina. And Argentina has been referred to as the "mecca" of polo. Was she in Florida after Michigan and before Dubai? Was she ever involved in horse racing circles?

Then she went to work for the Cerro Castor ski resort in Argentina again in marketing and public relations. While working at the ski resort, she did had had the short stint with with the skiing show on ESPN Desportes, which was very much a PR/marketing type thing that helps show off the ski resorts in Argentina and Chile, so not all that surprising that she would have that opportunity.

It was three years into her time at Cerro Castor, that she went on the 2006 Florida trip with Gaston Begue, the former olympic skiier, who ran the resort. It was that trip where her daughter was reportedly conceived. Do we know if she knew or had a relationship with Begue before working at the resort? Or if it was something that developed while she worked there or even during the trip?

She apparently continued working with Cerro Castor for a total of nine years and split time between Argentina and Miami. The custody filing in Miami was in 2012, the same year she left Cerro Castor and started living full time in Miami, where her mom apparently had ended up.

While in Miami, she reportedly got married to a Paul Enrique Gimenez from around 2013 to 2016. Haven't seen much about him out there, maybe others have? Was he a hard driving, narcissistic, macho man who appeared wealthy? Did she leverage her romantic affiliation for a position connected to him? Wasn't that when she went into business with her sister and worked for Outsourced Management Group, which was run by two women?

I guess it's possible she was in Middle Eastern horse owner's concubine and continually on the prowl for wealthy men whom she could use to get jobs.

But it seems like coming out of school, she had an interest in horses and helping kids with disabilities, neither of which is surprising given her father was a pediatric surgeon and very involved in kids medical charities and the role of horses in South American culture. Also not surprising that equine therapy training at the Cheff Center in Michigan might lead to opportunities abroad, including in Dubai. She very possibly also had connections to one or more Argentinian polo clubs, which would have been attractive to the Ghantood Polo Club, which at that time, was only a few years old. Also not surprising that in the course of her work in publicity and with Argentina polo teams at the polo club in Dubai that she would end up getting an opportunity to have a PR/marketing position at the Cerro Castor ski resort, and liked that type of lifestyle. Also not surprising that after having her daughter she would then end up in Florida where her mom and sister were.
 
  • #665
I found her on Facebook. She seems like a water skiing friend of his, no mention of that job or title.
There is a Hellenic Waterski Federation in Athens, Greece but no website shown, only 2 phone numbers, a fax number and an email address.
 
  • #666
The danger with this type of malignant narcissist is when the narcissistic supply is taken away. They need constant attention, which comes from wife, children, mistresses, sports successes, big flashy homes, etc. You can see how this worked with FD- first his control over JD, then MT, his waterskiing and snow skiing, the way he made his children extensions of himself through their water-skiing championships and titles (by the age of 6 the boys were nationally ranked in waterskiing), his lavish travel and parties, and of course, the material representation of his big self, the houses that he "designed" and built. The current lack of supportive friends and community is further proof of how hollow all of this was, how much his relationships and connections were just forms of narcissistic supply rather than actual, empathic connections to others.

Now FD has had his narcissistic supply abruptly removed, without access to MT, kids, he can't even waterski given his GPS anklet. NP is serving his need for narcissist supply in some manner, which is actually what draws NP to FD, and FDs opportunity for media coverage and "poor me" appearances are probably helping somewhat. Thus the push by his lawyers to get FDs friends and relatives in there quick, to prop up and provide some small amount of narcissistic supply to FD.
LE is probably hoping that through FDs isolation they can push him to reveal something. But this is unlikely because narcissists like FD don't see themselves as perpetrators, but as victims. They don't take responsibility, and we see this again and again with the media appearances, that JD took the children and left without informing him, without his permission.
The judge even said as much when she sent FD to therapy in the divorce case. When JDs lawyer in court suggested that FD needed to take responsibility, to "look in the mirror," FDs reply was literal and telling; he said, "I've been looking in the mirror for 8 months now". In the Greek myth of Narcissus, he looks in a pool of water and sees his reflection, and believing it to be the most beautiful thing ever yet unattainable he turns into a flower (or different variations here) because he cannot have this thing that he wants most.
Well said.
 
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No, thats one of the issues. Arrest warrant simply stated born in TN so far as I can tell. Maybe the best we can hope for is deportation to Venezuela (wouldn't that suck for her given what is happening there now?!).
Her father is not from the US but what about her mother? ...if her mother is a US citizen then it wouldn’t matter where she was born she would also gain citizenship...
 
  • #669
I have a different take on MT's work history oversees in the Middle East. Typically females who work in and around horse therapy groups are doing it as sort of a fun, volunteer activity because they enjoy horsey activities and gives them some activity
to do w/ horses and still help needy people.
My thoughts have always been that MT does go after serious
athletic guys who seem to have money.
The middle east is filled w/ wealthy sheiks and their families
who own and enjoy race horses both locally and in US.
My guess is she met one in US around the racing circles in
South Fl. and was invited to accompany him home to Middle
East and she could get involved in a volunteer position in horse
therapy. I believe she was a concubine for one of these wealthy
horse owners. Would also fit with her attraction to the hard driving, narcissistic, macho men who happen to appear wealthy.
The stint at ESPM was short term and came from her connection
w/ world class snow skiing through her ex baby daddy.
It seems she's good at meeting men and leveraging her romantic
affiliations w/ positions connected to these men.

New thought to me. Perhaps it was MT that suggested that everyone, including JD, live as 'one big happy family'.
 
  • #670
Her father is not from the US but what about her mother? ...if her mother is a US citizen then it wouldn’t matter where she was born she would also gain citizenship...

No, he was a doctor, and they were from Tennessee. A very recent post described her bio very neatly.
Enelram and muddytires.
There was another one recently discussing her father as a pediatric surgeon. I’ll try to locate that one as well.
 
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Yes, it would be good if we knew what happened to JD, but.... New York is a big city. Maybe though.
Doubtful that would be her....I know the area well and we have had bodies show up frequently especially in water...cut up is also pretty common as gruesome as that is...a lot of prostitutes...and the area is the opposite side of the island to CT...there are a lot of tolls and bridges around here so he would risk getting picked up by a camera...flying over is extremely close to JFK airport ....most likely not connected to this case....sorry....he would need a boat and travel at night to pull that off and with so many woods at his disposal I think he would pick the easier route
 
  • #672
I keep coming back here, hoping to see "REMAINS FOUND". This case does and will continue to break my heart until Jennifer is found...feeling a bit melancholy today. :(
 
  • #673
I found her on Facebook. She seems like a water skiing friend of his, no mention of that job or title.

She knows how to work a room, to her credit. Bill Clinton is a perfect example of excellence in working a room.
Maybe she knew the Dulos’ water ski instructor? And made the meet up with FD through the instructor.
They say there are only 5 people between you and almost anyone that you want to meet. 5 links.
So if I wanted to meet FD, on my end I would start with the law bar assn in my city. Someone there introduces me to a CT bar member. Who links me to NP. And there you have it.
Let’s keep looking. We have to find JD.
 
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Wow, they really paint FD as the victim. Even saying how JD “left unexpectedly to NY with the kids.”
She was fleeing an abusive husband, which she has every right to do.

I am sure that FD thought JD was willing to live as one big happy family with MT and her daughter.

JD found out about MT just a few months before leaving.

The problem was that the children were nearing the end of the school year.

It would have been best for the children, that JD plan the departure in advance and with little detriment to the children as possible.

It is not in the children's best interest to rip them from the school just weeks before they would be out anyway.

I would think that JD would make sure not to 'rock the boat' and make it seem that she was willing to go along with the harem plan.

This way, JD could coordinate their escape without much attention brought to her actions in setting up a plan, preparing to file for divorce, and of course she would want to leave without a confrontation.

JD did exactly what she needed to do and planned it all out very well, IMO.

The children did not end school until just a few days before JD and the children left.

Well done, IMO.
 
  • #675
The irony here is that any anxiety or depression that the psych eval might reveal was 99% brought on by JD's controlling, abusive, explosive STBX.
Interesting that the reporter referred to JD as FD’s “ex-wife”

One interesting tidbit: defense team trying to get the divorce court to unseal the custody psych eval on JD because FD needs that and they want to use the report for his criminal defense.

JMO/IMK/MOO
 
  • #676
Concerning that psych evaluation - is there a possibility that FD was able to have it altered and have someone swap it ? Also, how can the court be allowed to use something that was circulating around and not locked up in the court house?
I had the Blue Man image stuck in my brain and now I have the poison ivy switch.
I would think that whomever conducted the eval would have copies and notes. It seems like it would be due diligence with such sensitive and potentially influential information. Does anyone here know if that's true?
 
  • #677
Pic looking to the left is Coney Island. That’s the area the body is...Straight ahead is Manhattan and to the right I was told was NJ but that is incorrect as Jersey is to the left just on the other side of Coney Island as we are located in Breezy point which is the bay side...this is the opposite side of Long Island from CT
 

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  • #678
I am probably the oldest and most narrow minded person on WS and I see MT as spoiled, devious and with a lot of connections that might lead to risky, dangerous activity. Until it is proven she is innocent I don’t feel safe with her in an unknown location in NY. Please forgive me if I shouldn’t have said this.
Although she has the GPS ankle monitor on, and per the Court Agreement allowing her to leave the state of CT is 'basically under house arrest', and on a 'very tight leash', meaning she can't leave the location of her friends' house where she's staying in NY, and if she did, LE would know it and she would be breaking the terms of the agreement.
Jennifer Dulos case: Michelle Troconis on ‘tight leash’ while outside of CT
 
  • #679
Doubtful that would be her....I know the area well and we have had bodies show up frequently especially in water...cut up is also pretty common as gruesome as that is...a lot of prostitutes...and the area is the opposite side of the island to CT...there are a lot of tolls and bridges around here so he would risk getting picked up by a camera...flying over is extremely close to JFK airport ....most likely not connected to this case....sorry....he would need a boat and travel at night to pull that off and with so many woods at his disposal I think he would pick the easier route
Agree with you. Probably too close to high crime, underground criminal activity etc. known for cruel murders etc. Unless you took the long way from Manhattan over Queensboro Br to CIP to Belt Parkway etc. to a docking area.
 
  • #680
A nanny?
If it’s the young lady I saw, I noted that she was wearing a strap tee top and thinking ‘not what I would have thought to be the “dress code” in that area.’
Next thought was: “she’s very young to be married to someone who has already made it into this circle. How’d she do that?” McMansions and all.
Even a young trophy wife would have been dressed differently, IMHO.
She's not a nanny.Young girl that lives there.
 
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