Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #16

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  • #741
Maybe I'm dense but I suspect this was poorly
written and the writer should have said,
After he (KM) took out a $$$$life insurance policy on her, she was scared.........

wouldn't that fit the story better?
Why would you place more incentive on your own head if going through a contentious divorce? Does KM like dumb women?

I agree. Looks like the writer of this article had the same english teacher as NP.
 
  • #742
But if their divorce litigation began in 2010 when would they have traveled together as couples? I guess it's possible that since she was still in the home they may have had outings together as a group but I cannot imagine that at all - even for the sake of the kids. IMO

ETA spelling
It sounds like a very strange divorce case to say the least. I am sure the living together aspect of the situation was challenging as there were allegations of alcohol and drug abuse that no doubt pushed this separation/divorce to a whole different level.

But from reading some of the documents it sounded like they would be together and then take a break and then start up the divorce and then stop the divorce etc. The cycle was on/off and over and over.

Sounds like victim just loved the guy and couldn't let go but then things turned violent and so she had to physically leave to protect herself. Sounded like a terrible situation for all involved including the children and I can't imagine how it worked if they shared the house too.

But it looks like there could have been long stretches of time where things might have been ok. Who knows? I am sure even reading their entire divorce file would only scratch the surface of the real life dysfunction?

IDK and pure speculation as what happens behind closed doors is something impossible to know. MOO
 
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  • #743
Maybe I'm dense but I suspect this was poorly
written and the writer should have said,
After he (KM) took out a $$$$life insurance policy on her, she was scared.........

wouldn't that fit the story better?
Why would you place more incentive on your own head if going through a contentious divorce? Does KM like dumb women?
Only thing I could guess was to put the policy on you to protect the children. But I agree that it was poorly written. I just guessed what the writer was saying.
 
  • #744
But if their divorce litigation began in 2010 when would they have traveled together as couples? I guess it's possible that since she was still in the home they may have had outings together as a group but I cannot imagine that at all - even for the sake of the kids. IMO

ETA spelling
You might want to check out the separate forum for the Mawhinney case. There are 2 KM divorces, one from 2010 and one from 2019. This can be confusing.
 
  • #745
I justed put a few articles into the KW thread but I wanted to put this article on JD thread as well because this deals with FD:

Victim was concerned enought to purchase a life insurance policy for $750,000. But the interesting info in this article was that KW is supposedly involved in another sexual assault case in the area. The fact that FD appeared in this case to act as the intermediary to assist his friend in getting around a no-contact protective order is something that I am having difficulty wrapping my head around.

To get the protective order in the first place was a big deal for the victim BUT NOW the victim has to be concerned about her STBX engaging 3rd parties to reach out to her in person on his behalf. The sickness of someone engaging in this behavior and effectively harrassing a DV victim and alleged rape survivor is stunning.

IMO I hope FD is charged for his role in this case and I am glad that the victim reported it and the the local paper had the courage and took the time to get the police documents released under freedom of information act as my suspicion is that KW worked very hard to grease the skids to bury these police documents and thought they would never see the light of day.

Memo to KW: its sunny out today, the press and public won't let this matter rest until a trial happens and there is no place for you or FD to hide on this case if you were together working to murder or otherwise harm this victim!

Quotes from article:
"Later that month, she met with Dulos at a West Hartford restaurant",

"She said he showed her a love letter from Mawhinney, but told him "she would not meet with Mawhinney unless both of their lawyers were present."

"After taking out a $750,000 life insurance policy, she told police "she was in fear for her safety," and that "it was suspicious that Dulos had such a sudden vested interest in her relations with Mawhinney."

"Documents go on to say "she felt she was being baited" and that "Dulos was working on behalf of Mawhinney to get rid of her."

"The estranged wife later reported this to police".

"Mawhinney was arrested for violating the no-contact protective order".

"Police said he used Dulos to contact his

"Documents show Fotis called her the week his estranged wife went missing".

"Mawhinney's attorney said he couldn't comment on the case".

"Mawhinney also has another case pending out of Hartford for sexual assault'. [BBM]

The fact that FD was involved in circumventing a no-contact protective order tells me that he hasn’t hesitated in doing the exact same thing with MT. The only thing we don’t know, IMO, is whether or not she has been receptive.
 
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  • #747
Yep, good friend wrote for the show and honestly I think some of their 'loser' scripts are the true 'gems'! Makes for fun chat over drinks!

But now that I am thinking and laughing (easier than crying about the allegations in the KM spousal assault case which sound horrifying) about all this, its probably better suited for SNL! Can you imagine! Would be hilarious segment that 2 morons over beers or tequila shots decide to each do away with their wives with whom they are both involved with contentious divorces. Shoot the segment first at the Oyster Bar and then finish the segment at 4JX! Comedy gold IMO!

Sadly its not at all funny when this is happening in suburban CT. What were these 2 thinking?????

Hope LE gets to the bottom to see if such a plan is what KM and FD were in fact up to.

Frightening if true!


Money sure can’t buy class!
 
  • #748
I have been thinking about the extensive forensic work that is being by the State on the evidence in this case. We saw many weeks at the MIRA plant and I have to admit to being concerned about finding anything there.

But in my ongoing search to find the tweet about MT and the computer I found this article from one of my favorite HC writers about how DNA was found on a potato that was then used to convict someone for arson. I know a potato isn't the same as what was at the MIRA plant but I would think that getting this DNA might have been tricky. I know there are people on WS that are DNA experts (I am not) so wonder if my assumption of the difficulty of getting DNA off the potato is true or not? In any event, this DNA from the potato somewhat restored my faith that the State will find something substantial enough to convict everyone involved in this case!

As you can see I was hard at work trying to look for the light at the end of the tunnel and am hoping for the best on this case!

As rough as its been on the JD case recently, one of the few consolations I have is that now No Case Norm and PT2 have to really put on their thinking caps to come up with a defense for FD in light of JD bloody shirt bombshell this week.

My guess is that we will see a whole slew of continuances as the Pattis & Crew scramble to put something together. Do not envy their job at all. Just hope they can come up with something that holds up to scrutiny as their prior theories were IMO weak at best.

FD has his hands full too and I wonder if we will charges leveled against him in the KM case?

DNA Left On A Potato Helps State Police Solve An Arson They Say Was Set By An Angry Stripper

It wouldn’t even occur to me to try and get DNA off of a potato. I’m really glad there are investigators out there for whom this made sense.
 
  • #749
Maybe I'm dense but I suspect this was poorly
written and the writer should have said,
After he (KM) took out a $$$$life insurance policy on her, she was scared.........

wouldn't that fit the story better?
Why would you place more incentive on your own head if going through a contentious divorce? Does KM like dumb women?

I guess it would only make sense if KM wasn’t the beneficiary; maybe the insurance beneficiary was a relative that she wanted to take care of her children in the event of her death and KM’s imprisonment. Otherwise, maybe he took out the policy on her (yeah that isn’t suspicious!)
 
  • #750
Still looking for the MT computer tweet.

But in the process of looking ran into twitter feed of Samara Abramson (@Samara_Abramson) | Twitter who I have been following on this case. She is typically at the courthouse with a colleague following the case and live tweeting.

Have a feeling that the statements made by FD to GAL Meehan will be heard again...over and over:

@Samara_Abramson - Official Account - Live tweeting from court hearing
Verified account Jun 11


Meehan said Fotis told him he was at home in the morning on May 24 and was in meetings in the afternoon, but he did not indicate where those meetings took place

Meehan asked Fotis if he had alibi, and said Fotis told him he was concerned about the safety of the children.

Attorney for Gloria Farber questions guardian ad litem and attorney for children, Michael Meehan. Meehan says he has spoken to Fotis only once since Jennifer disappeared — on Saturday, May 25. Fotis asked him, “have you heard the news?”

Norm Pattis said defense can account for #FotisDulos’s alibi “almost all of the time” @FOX61News

Now he says he’ll speak in 15 mins (speaking about Norm Pattis). I asked him about his response to the new DNA prosecutors say they found in the sink... his response “********”
 
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  • #751
The fact that FD was involved in circumventing a no-contact protective order tells me that he hasn’t hesitated in doing the exact same thing with MT. The only thing we don’t know, IMO, is whether or not she has been receptive.
IIRC, Judge Heller noted in her custody order that FD had zero regard or respect for directions or restrictions from the court. If nothing else, he can be counted on to do exactly what is is told not to do.
 
  • #752
Still looking for the MT computer tweet.

But in the process of looking ran into twitter feed of Samara Abramson (@Samara_Abramson) | Twitter who I have been following on this case. She is typically at the courthouse with a colleague following the case and live tweeting.

Have a feeling that the statements made by FD to GAL Meehan will be heard again...over and over:

@Samara_Abramson - Official Account
Verified account Jun 11


Meehan said Fotis told him he was at home in the morning on May 24 and was in meetings in the afternoon, but he did not indicate where those meetings took place
I did an extended search last night and early am and found nothing. Many newspapers now
have a limit and/or paywall and I couldn't
thoroughly search.
I'll keep looking.
 
  • #753
I did an extended search last night and early am and found nothing. Many newspapers now
have a limit and/or paywall and I couldn't
thoroughly search.
I'll keep looking.
I'm drawing a blank on this - was it testimony from a hearing?
 
  • #754
IIRC, Judge Heller noted in her custody order that FD had zero regard or respect for directions or restrictions from the court. If nothing else, he can be counted on to do exactly what is is told not to do.
It seems like Pattis has a true dilemma with having a client that has such a well documented history in court. That Judge Heller quote about FD lying IMO is quite a powerful statement as to who FD is what he is all about. Given what appears to be habitual/chronic lying habit, you just have to wonder what if anything FD says is true? Not even sure Pattis could ever even have him testify on his own behalf.

This latest episode of FD playing 'cupid' for his buddy KM via going around a no contact order really has me wondering if anything anyone says, including Judges, has any impact on FD? There appears to be no regard for telling the truth and certainly no regard, that we have seen, for the law. Not sure how you can put up a defense of someone like this? Not worried about No Case Norm figuring something out BTW. Just am curious how he works around what appear to be personality and character 'issues'?

MOO
 
  • #755
I did an extended search last night and early am and found nothing. Many newspapers now
have a limit and/or paywall and I couldn't
thoroughly search.
I'll keep looking.
@oveido, thanks for both of your help on this. It was a tweet from one of the reporters at the scene of the search for either 4Jx or 80 MS very early on. I have a list of reporters I follow and am working my way through their tweets. Its slow going but I will eventually find it if its still there. I should have taken a screen shot.

Sorry to all for any confusion. When I find the tweet I will copy and post it.
 
  • #756
@oveido, thanks for both of your help on this. It was a tweet from one of the reporters at the scene of the search for either 4Jx or 80 MS very early on. I have a list of reporters I follow and am working my way through their tweets. Its slow going but I will eventually find it if its still there. I should have taken a screen shot.

Sorry to all for any confusion. When I find the tweet I will copy and post it.
I would guess it was around the time of the
'first' emergency search warrant at JC. That was on a Wednesday.
Either May 29 or more likely June 5
That was the warrant that LE showed up
unannounced.
 
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  • #757
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I have been thinking about the extensive forensic work that is being by the State on the evidence in this case. We saw many weeks at the MIRA plant and I have to admit to being concerned about finding anything there.

But in my ongoing search to find the tweet about MT and the computer I found this article from one of my favorite HC writers about how DNA was found on a potato that was then used to convict someone for arson. I know a potato isn't the same as what was at the MIRA plant but I would think that getting this DNA might have been tricky. I know there are people on WS that are DNA experts (I am not) so wonder if my assumption of the difficulty of getting DNA off the potato is true or not? In any event, this DNA from the potato somewhat restored my faith that the State will find something substantial enough to convict everyone involved in this case!

As you can see I was hard at work trying to look for the light at the end of the tunnel and am hoping for the best on this case!

As rough as its been on the JD case recently, one of the few consolations I have is that now No Case Norm and PT2 have to really put on their thinking caps to come up with a defense for FD in light of JD bloody shirt bombshell this week.

My guess is that we will see a whole slew of continuances as the Pattis & Crew scramble to put something together. Do not envy their job at all. Just hope they can come up with something that holds up to scrutiny as their prior theories were IMO weak at best.

FD has his hands full too and I wonder if we will charges leveled against him in the KM case?

DNA Left On A Potato Helps State Police Solve An Arson They Say Was Set By An Angry Stripper
I have been thinking about the extensive forensic work that is being by the State on the evidence in this case. We saw many weeks at the MIRA plant and I have to admit to being concerned about finding anything there.

But in my ongoing search to find the tweet about MT and the computer I found this article from one of my favorite HC writers about how DNA was found on a potato that was then used to convict someone for arson. I know a potato isn't the same as what was at the MIRA plant but I would think that getting this DNA might have been tricky. I know there are people on WS that are DNA experts (I am not) so wonder if my assumption of the difficulty of getting DNA off the potato is true or not? In any event, this DNA from the potato somewhat restored my faith that the State will find something substantial enough to convict everyone involved in this case!

As you can see I was hard at work trying to look for the light at the end of the tunnel and am hoping for the best on this case!

As rough as its been on the JD case recently, one of the few consolations I have is that now No Case Norm and PT2 have to really put on their thinking caps to come up with a defense for FD in light of JD bloody shirt bombshell this week.

My guess is that we will see a whole slew of continuances as the Pattis & Crew scramble to put something together. Do not envy their job at all. Just hope they can come up with something that holds up to scrutiny as their prior theories were IMO weak at best.

FD has his hands full too and I wonder if we will charges leveled against him in the KM case?

DNA Left On A Potato Helps State Police Solve An Arson They Say Was Set By An Angry Stripper

I sure hope I did this correctly, but I remembered reading about a murder case where DNA was found on pizza crust.

Pizza Crust, Missing $40K & the Smell of Gasoline – How Cops Are Piecing Together D.C. Mansion Murders
 
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  • #759
Oops, sorry about all of that being copied twice. I need more practice.:(
We just got a laugh 2x! So we had potato and pizza DNA! Just hoping they can do it as well on fragments from MIRA!
 
  • #760
I looked through Dave Altimari and found nothing.
 
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