Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #16

[Jmoose]

There has been a community police station on Albany ave for many years. My guess is that the LE knows everyone around there,

I have a friend who is a retired police captain from a rough neighborhood somewhere outside of NYC, and can confirm that the police know all of the usual inhabitants of Albany Ave-and if “Fudge” exists, they know exactly who he is, too.

 

[Rosiebones]

"In some cases, the C4 video showed items being discarded which appeared to be stained with a substance consistent with the appearance of blood"

Perhaps this is the pillow. I have been assuming all along that there must have been blood smeared on the outside of a bag. I questioned how this could be noticed if the bags were dark construction type bags.

 

[On It]

Welcome! Glad you are here and away from that narcopath- love that word. Thank god you got away. You’re right. They are so charming and insidious that one may not know what’s actually going on. They fool a lot of people.

Bulldogs2 thank you for your kind welcome. I think that is the strangest part of being with these men for so long. The charm. One of the pictures shows JD hugging FD and he just smiling in the camera like “Michi, I’m thinking about you”. I know that JD really loved him. I read what I could find from her blogging days. She was on anti-depressants...she couldn’t believe how her life had turned on her and this man she loved treated her like his great enemy. It is devastating. I think about her so much and wish I knew her, could have been her friend, we walked similar paths and I wish I could have been in her life to help her.. I wonder if when she let him come that Wed to have visitation at her house he tried to charm her and act sad and give her the feeling he was remorseful about all that he had done. We don’t have her phone. We don’t know if he reached out to her and tried to pretend to woo her. KM could have met JD and said he is devastated over what he has done to you and the kids. He is a broken man. He is crying in the car and I can’t get him to Pull it together. She would have felt compassion for him. She named all of her kids Greek names. She wanted to make it work. Any way I digress. We all know he killed her. That beautiful, bright, loving person. Thank you again!

 

[sds71]

This is an article about the Hartford Command Center that caught FD on camera
Social media and web intelligence helps Hartford police prevent crimes

 

[afitzy]

Hi all- I’m new here bit have been following you guys for a while. I too left a controlling wealthy man and have been fighting in court for custody and everything under the sun for over five years....anyway I thought of something this morning. NP keeps saying there are phone records to prove FD was on a phone call to Greece the morning JD disappeared but couldn’t he have called Greece (or vice-versa) and then simply left the phone lie on a table while he went to JD house? Obviously the other person in Greece was aware this was happening but he probably thought they live in Greece they will never be forced to talk to police.

Also this KM situation has me wondering if KM somehow tried to broker a meeting for FD and reached out on his behalf. Also and this may be a stretch bit because of this new evidence of the pillow I wonder if FD too tried to reach out to JD. Maybe they met in the park that morning and she got into KM’s car where FD was waiting. I don’t know but a pillow... could he too like KM pretended to want to reconcile tried to pretend he was remorseful and JD let him in and my e he tried to get amorous with her. I know it is a stretch but I spent 20 years with my wealthy good looking narcopath and you have no idea how persuasive and manipulative they are. It also seems to me by the description a possible boys room pillow. Pottery barn or something. I definitely feel there is a possible connection with KM “being indebted and controlled” by FD that same week JD disappeared and FD reached out to his ex. You help me and I’ll help you kind of thing. I thank God I am alive today. I think of Jennifer and her children everyday.

Welcome, glad you are healthy and alive and here to join us!

So sorry about your court journey as it so closely mirrors what we saw with JD and KM (2 divorces)!

But you kicked off your intro with a thought packed post IMO!

Some good food for thought in your comments:

1. Greece call - your idea makes sense that the call could have just been ruse and the line kept open while FD was far away. Certainly possible. Phone calls can be routed and forwarded so many ways these days that I'm not sure just saying that you were on the phone has much weight these days for proving physical presence. I'm sure the legal folks on the thread can weigh in on this point.

Its wacky too because the call from Greece might have been from a greek registered cell phone that was in the US that was simply calling 4JX. I have to defer to LE on these calls as sometimes even proving where a call was made from is a tech challenge with an internet phone in particular. I am not sure whether a phone call can be considered an alibi in and of itself so I defer to legal folks here to answer that question again.

2. KM - agree with you that he could have tried to broker a deal and there was some kind of tit for tat deal between the 2. Wonder where KM was on the morning of the 24th? Was KM the FD alibi that was mentioned previously as being a visit from an attorney? Was FD with KM at 4Jx on the 24th or could they have been someplace else but still together?

The entire 'indebted and controlled' comment has bugged me since I first read it and it seems like it registered on your hinky meter too! The possibilities of FD and FW conspiring to do who knows what, could be any number of things but I do think its a suspicious relationship. I also thought the phrase was odd for someone to use in casual convo too as it sounds more like something an atty would say IMO but who knows.

 

[bubby girl]

Maybe he got it recently
Mid Life crisis

he has displayed manic behavior for some time, but went even higher during the affair with MT.. everything excessive- spending money, clothing, tom cruise heels (ok i admit i am mocking him, but i will keep throwing that in ), sex, professing love for MT and her child (and if i were the biological father of child- would want to get her out of there!!, skiing, exercising, vehicles, alcohol bar in home (another reason for biological dad of MT child)..flaunting their affair- he and MT think they are invincible..i am sure they have received some unlabeled packages with you know what kind of toys..yuck..lastly, i wonder if MT has a matching tattoo??

 

[tmar]

Hi all- I’m new here bit have been following you guys for a while. I too left a controlling wealthy man and have been fighting in court for custody and everything under the sun for over five years....anyway I thought of something this morning. NP keeps saying there are phone records to prove FD was on a phone call to Greece the morning JD disappeared but couldn’t he have called Greece (or vice-versa) and then simply left the phone lie on a table while he went to JD house? Obviously the other person in Greece was aware this was happening but he probably thought they live in Greece they will never be forced to talk to police.

Also this KM situation has me wondering if KM somehow tried to broker a meeting for FD and reached out on his behalf. Also and this may be a stretch bit because of this new evidence of the pillow I wonder if FD too tried to reach out to JD. Maybe they met in the park that morning and she got into KM’s car where FD was waiting. I don’t know but a pillow... could he too like KM pretended to want to reconcile tried to pretend he was remorseful and JD let him in and my e he tried to get amorous with her. I know it is a stretch but I spent 20 years with my wealthy good looking narcopath and you have no idea how persuasive and manipulative they are. It also seems to me by the description a possible boys room pillow. Pottery barn or something. I definitely feel there is a possible connection with KM “being indebted and controlled” by FD that same week JD disappeared and FD reached out to his ex. You help me and I’ll help you kind of thing. I thank God I am alive today. I think of Jennifer and her children everyday.

Welcome On It.
Hope to see more posts from you.
You have raised some good points.
Good luck, now that you are away from your Creep.

 

[citygirl]

Bulldogs2 thank you for your kind welcome. I think that is the strangest part of being with these men for so long. The charm. One of the pictures shows JD hugging FD and he just smiling in the camera like “Michi, I’m thinking about you”. I know that JD really loved him. I read what I could find from her blogging days. She was on anti-depressants...she couldn’t believe how her life had turned on her and this man she loved treated her like his great enemy. It is devastating. I think about her so much and wish I knew her, could have been her friend, we walked similar paths and I wish I could have been in her life to help her.. I wonder if when she let him come that Wed to have visitation at her house he tried to charm her and act sad and give her the feeling he was remorseful about all that he had done. We don’t have her phone. We don’t know if he reached out to her and tried to pretend to woo her. KM could have met JD and said he is devastated over what he has done to you and the kids. He is a broken man. He is crying in the car and I can’t get him to Pull it together. She would have felt compassion for him. She named all of her kids Greek names. She wanted to make it work. Any way I digress. We all know he killed her. That beautiful, bright, loving person. Thank you again!

You remind us all that there was a time that Jennifer loved him, enough to bear 5 children. When did it all go south? And, how long did she try to sustain things? Not only for the children but because she loved him?
We are tail-enders. Strangers coming on board after she has disappeared loaded with hindsight.
MOO.

 

[BellaVita]

I think he used the knife to dismember her not as a murder weapon

The knife was described as looking like a fishing knife or a knife you use to play a game called 4 Fingers. I researched the game and it is when you spread your fingers apart and use a knife to stab the space in between. The related photos show mostly a knife that resembles a paring knife. As for fishing knives, unless you are out in a boat going after large fish, you usually use a fillet knife that in most cases is longer than a paring knife and the blade is often a little flexible. If kept sharp, you can gut a shark with it, no problem. There are some knives used for fishing with a blade that is a little more stout and the length would fall in between that of the paring knife and the fillet knife. Sure, you could kill someone with it but doubtful it would be much use for dismemberment. I remember reading in one of the documents that JD said she was afraid because FD had a gun. Sometimes the killer will use a pillow over the victim and shoot through the pillow. Just a thought

 

[On It]

Welcome On It.
Hope to see more posts from you.
You have raised some good points.
Good luck, now that you are away from your Creep.

Oh thank you Tmar. Still fighting me on everything ... year 5. These men are wolves in sheep’s clothing. Successful I’m the worlds eyes and they treat you at first better than you have ever been treated because it is a manipulation. My faith will continue to carry me through it. Thank you for your welcome.

 

[tmar]

I'm super new here, just signed up to follow news about JD. I stumbled upon you in a Google search and I have to say you all are so smart and insightful.

I won't be a big commenter, but I had to say how much NP gives me the creeps. I couldn't even watch that whole video.

Thank you all for being here, the news is so heartbreaking, and yet to see so many caring people gives my heart a bit of hope for all of us.

Welcome VacationMode, with your first post.
I am late here, seeing your post, but many agree 'NP gives us the creeps'.
Both he, and FD are a great pair, and I am waiting for them to drown in their lies.
Then we have MT to deal with.
Certainly the Jury will dislike this lot.
MOO.

 

[citygirl]

The knife was described as looking like a fishing knife or a knife you use to play a game called 4 Fingers. I researched the game and it is when you spread your fingers apart and use a knife to stab the space in between. The related photos show mostly a knife that resembles a paring knife. As for fishing knives, unless you are out in a boat going after large fish, you usually use a fillet knife that in most cases is longer than a paring knife and the blade is often a little flexible. If kept sharp, you can gut a shark with it, no problem. There are some knives used for fishing with a blade that is a little more stout and the length would fall in between that of the paring knife and the fillet knife. Sure, you could kill someone with it but doubtful it would be much use for dismemberment. I remember reading in one of the documents that JD said she was afraid because FD had a gun. Sometimes the killer will use a pillow over the victim and shoot through the pillow. Just a thought

I don't think he dismembered her with the knife. I do believe he could have stabbed her over and over and over again. UGH.

 

[On It]

You remind us all that there was a time that Jennifer loved him, enough to bear 5 children. When did it all go south? And, how long did she try to sustain things? Not only for the children but because she loved him?
We are tail-enders. Strangers coming on board after she has disappeared loaded with hindsight.
MOO.

City girl- my ex was eerily similar to FD. Charming, bright, handsome, successful and from what I have learned and read about JD she was an empath. Very sympathetic, sees the best in others and is very kind, loving and genuine. These monsters look for women like this to prey on. At first, for years, they put you on a pedestal. Its called “love bombing”. You don’t know it at the time but their behavior at the beginning is what makes you put up with so much in the middle and end. If they had reached across the table and popped you in the face in the beginning you would leave and say that guy is bad news. But they do the opposite and they do it well for years. You see these narcopaths hate the person they are dependent upon to keep them going. They are like vampires that suck the life out of you. I was a triathlete, had a wonderful career, independent. I became sick, depressed - it was awful because they slowly slowly make you feel like a disaster. When I would want to run I would have to hide it from him. To take a jog I could not tell him. He would say honey did you work out today? I would not lie I would say I did. He would say look in the mirror. You look awful just exhausted go lie down and I’ll make you a cup of tea and a sandwich. It was insidious. It is learned helplessness. You have to give up yourself to be with them. It was twenty years for me and even though we are still In court and he has a girlfriend ironically named mishel he is doing the same things I am his enemy now that I left. You become that to them when you do that. It is like you have embarrassed them and their true nature comes out.

 

[andalso]

"In some cases, the C4 video showed items being discarded which appeared to be stained with a substance consistent with the appearance of blood"

Perhaps this is the pillow. I have been assuming all along that there must have been blood smeared on the outside of a bag. I questioned how this could be noticed if the bags were dark construction type bags.

Great point!

 

[On It]

Welcome, glad you are healthy and alive and here to join us!

So sorry about your court journey as it so closely mirrors what we saw with JD and KM (2 divorces)!

But you kicked off your intro with a thought packed post IMO!

Some good food for thought in your comments:

1. Greece call - your idea makes sense that the call could have just been ruse and the line kept open while FD was far away. Certainly possible. Phone calls can be routed and forwarded so many ways these days that I'm not sure just saying that you were on the phone has much weight these days for proving physical presence. I'm sure the legal folks on the thread can weigh in on this point.

Its wacky too because the call from Greece might have been from a greek registered cell phone that was in the US that was simply calling 4JX. I have to defer to LE on these calls as sometimes even proving where a call was made from is a tech challenge with an internet phone in particular. I am not sure whether a phone call can be considered an alibi in and of itself so I defer to legal folks here to answer that question again.

2. KM - agree with you that he could have tried to broker a deal and there was some kind of tit for tat deal between the 2. Wonder where KM was on the morning of the 24th? Was KM the FD alibi that was mentioned previously as being a visit from an attorney? Was FD with KM at 4Jx on the 24th or could they have been someplace else but still together?

The entire 'indebted and controlled' comment has bugged me since I first read it and it seems like it registered on your hinky meter too! The possibilities of FD and FW conspiring to do who knows what, could be any number of things but I do think its a suspicious relationship. I also thought the phrase was odd for someone to use in casual convo too as it sounds more like something an atty would say IMO but who

 

[afitzy]

Grateful if someone could post (10% of! ) the content of this piece, as NE doesn’t open for me.

Quotes from NE article posted above:

When police arrived a few minutes later, they found an empty estate. At the behest of the family, their longtime nanny xx, 28, met officers at the property and unlocked the door [BBM - we have debated this point and never resolved] for them to gain entry.

Police didn’t find the Connecticut mother home nor any signs of forced entry, but their nightmare worsened. When officers journeyed to the garage, they immediately located several bloodstains on the floor and on a vehicle parked in the garage. It was then they realized something wasn’t right and they instantly started combing the area for any clues. Within the hour, they found Jennifer’s empty Suburban parked three miles from her property.

“This case became a national story almost immediately; a missing mother-of-five vanished after returning home from taking her children to school,” a detective in a neighboring Connecticut town told The ENQUIRER. “Who could ditch crucial evidence pertaining to the disappearance of a mother-of-five in the trash. What kind of monster does that take?”

The FBI joined state and local law enforcement officers to search properties owned by her estranged husband.

On June 1, the case captured national attention when Fotis & his former mistress-turned-girlfriend [BBM new term MTG!], Michelle Troconis, 44, were arrested and charged with hindering prosecution and tampering with physical evidence in connection to the mother-of-five’s disappearance after police claim they found video surveillance that appeared to show the two dumping bags of evidence – including blood drenched sponges, clothing, and other material – at over 30 locations in a four-mile radius.

“All the evidence that we have points to the fact that Jennifer’s estranged husband, Fotis Dulos, and his girlfriend Michelle Troconis attempted to get rid of critical evidence,” a federal law enforcement source told The ENQUIRER. “This was a coward versus a woman.” [BBM - This is true!]

“It’s evident that a fight ensued in the garage of the victim’s estate given the blood located by the initial responding officers in addition to the evidence located by federal, state and local authorities shortly thereafter,” the source continued. “Further findings indicate that the victim could have succumbed from her injuries, but we are not ruling any theories or possibilities out.”


From RadarOnline.com:

According to RadarOnline.com, authorities caught a big break earlier this week after obtaining an “emergency” search warrant to raid a large property owned by Jennifer’s estranged husband, Fotis Dulos.

“We received several tips that circled back to that residence and obtained an emergency search warrant for the premises,” a law enforcement source revealed to the outlet. “We did find several key pieces of evidence in various trash cans, dumpsters, and other locations.”

What’s more, NBC Connecticut was first to report Friday that police returned to Fotis’ Farmington estate. Surprisingly, they were joined by his former mistress-turned girlfriend, Michelle Troconis, who is also charged in connection to the disappearance of the mother-of-five.

“Ms. Troconis agreed to assist authorities in bringing resolution to this horrific tragedy,” a law enforcement source told The ENQUIRER. “Following her three-hour statement Wednesday, she agreed to meet with authorities at the property she resided at with Fotis to help cohobate her statement.”

“If an attorney, with enough experience, comes to the realization that there is no way to win a case, he or she may have his client cooperate,” high-profile criminal defense attorney A. Charles Peruto told The ENQUIRER. Peruto, known for representing some of the most prolific killers in America, including murderer Gary Heidnik, who kidnapped, tortured, and sexually assaulted six women, killing two of them while holding them captive in his basement.

“The ‘first one in the door’ of the prosecutor’s office, is the one who gets the best deal,” Peruto said.

According to a local law enforcement source, it is plausible that Michelle provided authorities with critical information to avoid potential charges. “Typically, suspects provide a statement or even a confession to exonerate themselves or to avoid future charges that could surface as a result of evidence obtained during the investigation,” the source divulged.

“This wasn’t random,” a federal law enforcement source told The ENQUIRER. “Someone had the specific intent to harm Jennifer by any means necessary.”

FBI Evidence Response Team join local and state authorities in the manhunt for clues pertaining to the disappearance of mother-of-five, Jennifer Dulos. Photo: MEGA

“There was a man who was not happy because of the outcome of a divorce custody proceeding, and the upcoming legal woes he faced,” a second law enforcement source conveyed to The ENQUIRER. “Then, the key person who could rid him of those legal woes vanished.”

“This is no longer a missing persons investigation,” a law enforcement source told RadarOnline. “This is now a murder case.”

“Michelle met with authorities and appears to be cooperating with them in the investigation,” a law enforcement source revealed to The ENQUIRER. “She further agreed to participate in the search for evidence and provide a complete walkthrough of what she saw,” noting Michelle will continue to participate in the event police have questions during their search.

According to multiple sources, authorities retraced the steps Michelle claims her boyfriend made on the day of and after the attack, in search of evidence and clues that the perpetrator might’ve left behind. [BBM - we saw the Fox61 drone coverage of MT walking around the yard but this is first explanation we've seen so far as I know as what MT was telling LE].

“There is a reservoir in the wooded area behind her estranged husband’s estate,” the law enforcement source said. “It is believed that the suspect might have gone through those woods in effort to avoid being captured on neighboring surveillance.” [BBM - this fits in with Pattis statements about LE searching to confirm if FD left from the rear of 4Jx].

“The co-defendant provided us information and vowed to assist us to bring this case to a rapid and just conclusion,” the source continued. “Her statement enabled us to act swiftly and certainly towards bringing justice for Jennifer’s family. The information once again led us to the estate located at 4 Jefferson Crossing in Farmington, Connecticut, and to various other locations which will come to light as the investigation continues.”

 

[On It]

Afitzy yes I agree!

I feel like the introduction of the KM situation is too much of a coincidence, especially with what FD said to her and the timing of it- same week JD disappeared!

Thank you for your kind words. The scary part is that my ex, FD, and other men like them are thought of as catches and are “out there” as we speak. I am so grateful to God to be alive. I am so sorry dear Jennifer isn’t. IMO. She seems like such a lovely wonderful soul.

 

[afitzy]

I’m concerned that NP will trash this witness. He could say the witness can’t remember if the knife had blood on it but then he remembered what the pillow looked like.

Possible but with the quality of the Hartford cams it is likely that this entire episode will be played out in HD for the world to see.

 

[andalso]

You remind us all that there was a time that Jennifer loved him, enough to bear 5 children. When did it all go south? And, how long did she try to sustain things? Not only for the children but because she loved him?
We are tail-enders. Strangers coming on board after she has disappeared loaded with hindsight.
MOO.

I hate to say this about the BBM....but, the "enough to bear 5 children" could actually be part of the controlling nature of FD too.

 

[afitzy]

I have a friend who is a retired police captain from a rough neighborhood somewhere outside of NYC, and can confirm that the police know all of the usual inhabitants of Albany Ave-and if “Fudge” exists, they know exactly who he is, too.

Just hope LE is taking good care of "Fudge" and he is safe.