Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #17

[Ruminations]

Either skip this post, or get a drink and a snack. This is really long, and goes back to the arrest warrant.

I am trying to understand the party the night before, what vehicles were where, and when it would be possible for Fotis to travel to New Canaan.

I have not read every chain, but of the ones I have read I haven't seen three things discussed often, and I think might be significant.

One, it takes about 40 minutes by foot to travel between 4JX and 80 MS. I think he did this once and LE showed they know it on the warrant. and I think he could have done so again after the evening party.

Two, there are roads other than the interstates and the Merritt to take between Jennifer's home and 4 JX. This route is longer than on the highways without traffic, but are significantly shorter when traffic is backed up, so I am sure these routes are known to Fotis. One might cut through NY for a short time, which apparently Fotis did with his ankle bracelet on.

The third is below in the bolded, italicized and colorized sections below. I have a feeling there is something between the lines in the 2 paragraphs of the arrest warrant about the Black Raptor captured on video coming home at 8:10 ish and stopping at the mailbox.

Any LE people here? I don't think it would be noticed if an "impossible" CT tag was driving along in daylight. I believe if a tag is being sought, the data can be searched for it.

I think Fotis travelled in the in darkness Thursday night or Friday morning by a vehicle. I don't know if it was the red Tacoma or another vehicle, but I suspect it traveled with the altered plate. I believe he travelled back in daylight in a vehicle, again I don't know which one.


Things I think are solid are in Red

Things I wonder are in purple

My MOO juice is in black


Thursday Evening or Night:


There was some kind of gathering/party at 4 Jefferson Crossing. Michelle, Fotis, and a woman who left her purse were there.

(Who else was there?)


(What were the times of guests arriving/departing?)


(What Dulos/Traconis vehicles were parked there for the night?)


(Where was the blk Raptor?) (Or the black Raptors? See below.)


(Where was the employee’s red Tacoma?)


(Were the party arrivals and departures captured on the neighbor’s or neighbors’ camera or cameras?)

On Thursday, May 23rd in Farmington, sunset was at _____; twilight was at 8:43.


The weather at 6:00 PM was partly cloudy, 64 degree, 9mph breeze. Weather was stable until about 3:00. It cooled to a low of 57 degrees between 3:00 AM and 6:00 AM the next morning. The moon was waning and 6 days after the full moon. The moon rose on Thursday evening at 11:43.


The temperature varied a bit more in New Canaan. At 6:00 PM the temperature was higher at 70, and it was down to 57 by midnight, and hit a low at 6:00 AM of 52 degrees. The wind was slightly stronger, 11 mph, but the details about cloudiness were the same.


On Friday, May 24th in New Canaan, morning twilight was at 4:52, and sunrise was at 5:24. It was darkest until 4:11 AM, although the larger than half moon was out in the partly cloudy skies.


We know it is about a 40 minute walk between 4 JX and 80 MS.


We know it is about a 6-7 minute drive between 4 JX and 80 MS.


We know that LE released the following information (and left the following out)

Fotis’ phone departed 4 JX (At what time? How long did it take to get to 80 MS? Did it go directly?)

Fotis’ phone “enters” 80 MS at 1:37 PM (From Where? How long did it take?)

Fotis’ phone stays at 80 MS until 3:38. LE mentions this is more than 2 hours. (Why mention this?)

Fotis’ phone goes from 80 MS to 4 JX in the time between 3:38 and 4:17. (This is the only time LE gives us the start time and end time of a trip. Are they making a point that they know he walked, since that is about the amount of time it takes? Or are they making a point that they know he traveled elsewhere in between?)

Fotis’ phone is back at 4JX at 4:17.

Fotis’”had returned” to 80 MS at 5:21 (When did it leave 4 JX? Did it go directly?)

Fotis’ phone arrived at his residence 4JX at 5:34 (When did it leave 80 JX? Did it go directly? If he drove directly for 7 minutes, he left at 5:27 and spent only 6 minutes there.)

“At 19:10, Dulos’ device travelled to the area of Albany Avenue.” (Did he leave 4 JX at 7:10, or arrive on Albany Avenue at 7:10?)

“At 19:41, Dulos’ device left the area of Albany Avenue and returned to his residence.” (When did it return? The same time as the neighbors’ video surveillance?)

One of the following is true: There are 2 cameras that caught the action we read about in the arrest warrant, or there were two males, one affirmatively called “Dulos,” and two black Raptors, one affirmatively Dulos’.


The first video mentioned in the arrest warrant says it showed a black raptor pull into “Dulos’” driveway. A man who “matched the appearance of the male depicted in Hartford,” walked to “Dulos’ mailbox” and “retrieved the mail.” The male got back in “the” Raptor and drove further on the property out of camera range. No info on the tags. The Raptor continued onto the property and out of camera range. This was said to occur at 8:12 PM.


The second video mentioned was very clear that it depicted Dulos. It stated that a black Raptor with Dulos’ tags pulled up, and that Dulos – not a male- got out and walked to the mail box. It does NOT say that mail was removed. No actions involving the mailbox (or anything else) were mentioned aside from walking to the mailbox, and returning to “his” car. It says what Dulos – not a male- appeared to be wearing: a light colored tee shirt and black pants. The licence plate was readable. There was no information about the Raptor continuing in any direction. This was said to occur at 8:10 PM.

(Is this warrant saying that there were two different cameras that showed different angles and levels of detail, set to two different times? In other words, was there only one male in a black raptor, and one video had enough clarity to capture the plate, call the man “Dulos” and assert that the car, driveway and mailbox was “his,” while the other only showed that the man matched the description of the Albany Avenue male and could not show with certainty which Black Raptor it was?)


(Is this warrant subtly saying that there were two different males, one who matched the description of the person on Albany Avenue, who himself “matched the description” of Dulos, driving one Black Raptor, and Dulos driving his actual Black Raptor? If so, why the backwards order? That would indicate that Dulos arrived and walked to the mailbox, then went who-knows-where? Then the male resembling Dulos did more or less the same but retrieved the mail two minutes later.)


It takes about 20-40 minutes, very loose estimate, depending on route, traffic, and which part of the “area” of Albany Avenue the device left from.

(Did they start distributing the contents of the truck farther from home and work their way closer, or the other way around?)

I do not believe this was a direct drive or a drive without stops from Hartford to 4 FX; I think there are 10-30 minutes unaccounted for.

 

[afitzy]

I guess FD's DNA found in JD's kitchen is not "scintilla of evidence"???

Example of a Case Law Regarding Scintilla of Evidence
According to the scintilla of evidence rule, a party's testimony must contain some evidence that clarifies the issues of fact and enables the jury to arrive at an intelligent conclusion. However, the evidence does not permit admission of theoretical, speculative, and hypothetical views. Scintilla of evidence is defined as a spark, glimmer, gleam, or the smallest trace of evidence that supports a plaintiff's claim.

26 CDs from the State ≠ scintilla of evidence per No Case Norm

Personally I love that the State wrote a single sentence and No Case Norm blathered on for 5 full pages.

Guess its Game on!

If I were a cartoonist I would draw a picture of No Case Norm with a bandana in his mouth and it tied over his ponytail to completely inhibit his ability to speak! His facial expression would be the one we first saw on the steps of the courthouse when he told the Reporter that dared to ask a question, "Shame on You". Norm looked ready to explode during that interchange. Not sure how he will proceed if he is in fact gagged as it seems such an integral component of his defense strategy.

MOO MOO MOO

 

[citygirl]

26 CDs from the State ≠ scintilla of evidence per No Case Norm

Personally I love that the State wrote a single sentence and No Case Norm blathered on for 5 full pages.

Guess its Game on!

He also noted that they were given the name of the dumpster diver!
ETA.....also said his client has held great restraint in not speaking out.
Which is really hilarious based on his TV interview.
MOO MOO.

 

[Jmoose]

And text messages are entirely unable to be manipulated, sent by forward, or by another person or sent at times other than what they seem to be. Right. Sometimes, I flat-out feel insulted on behalf of the entire public by these illogical pronouncements NP expects us to believe. MOO.

As far as I know, text messages don’t accurately indicate your location-I mean, what did she do? Text his phone and say “where are you”, and get one back from someone saying “Farmington”? That isn’t proof of anything.

 

[nina318]

Either skip this post, or get a drink and a snack. This is really long, and goes back to the arrest warrant.

I am trying to understand the party the night before, what vehicles were where, and when it would be possible for Fotis to travel to New Canaan.

I have not read every chain, but of the ones I have read I haven't seen three things discussed often, and I think might be significant.

One, it takes about 40 minutes by foot to travel between 4JX and 80 MS. I think he did this once and LE showed they know it on the warrant. and I think he could have done so again after the evening party.

Two, there are roads other than the interstates and the Merritt to take between Jennifer's home and 4 JX. This route is longer than on the highways without traffic, but are significantly shorter when traffic is backed up, so I am sure these routes are known to Fotis. One might cut through NY for a short time, which apparently Fotis did with his ankle bracelet on.

The third is below in the bolded, italicized and colorized sections below. I have a feeling there is something between the lines in the 2 paragraphs of the arrest warrant about the Black Raptor captured on video coming home at 8:10 ish and stopping at the mailbox.

Any LE people here? I don't think it would be noticed if an "impossible" CT tag was driving along in daylight. I believe if a tag is being sought, the data can be searched for it.

I think Fotis travelled in the in darkness Thursday night or Friday morning by a vehicle. I don't know if it was the red Tacoma or another vehicle, but I suspect it traveled with the altered plate. I believe he travelled back in daylight in a vehicle, again I don't know which one.


Things I think are solid are in Red

Things I wonder are in purple

My MOO juice is in black


Thursday Evening or Night:


There was some kind of gathering/party at 4 Jefferson Crossing. Michelle, Fotis, and a woman who left her purse were there.

(Who else was there?)


(What were the times of guests arriving/departing?)


(What Dulos/Traconis vehicles were parked there for the night?)


(Where was the blk Raptor?) (Or the black Raptors? See below.)


(Where was the employee’s red Tacoma?)


(Were the party arrivals and departures captured on the neighbor’s or neighbors’ camera or cameras?)

On Thursday, May 23rd in Farmington, sunset was at _____; twilight was at 8:43.


The weather at 6:00 PM was partly cloudy, 64 degree, 9mph breeze. Weather was stable until about 3:00. It cooled to a low of 57 degrees between 3:00 AM and 6:00 AM the next morning. The moon was waning and 6 days after the full moon. The moon rose on Thursday evening at 11:43.


The temperature varied a bit more in New Canaan. At 6:00 PM the temperature was higher at 70, and it was down to 57 by midnight, and hit a low at 6:00 AM of 52 degrees. The wind was slightly stronger, 11 mph, but the details about cloudiness were the same.


On Friday, May 24th in New Canaan, morning twilight was at 4:52, and sunrise was at 5:24. It was darkest until 4:11 AM, although the larger than half moon was out in the partly cloudy skies.


We know it is about a 40 minute walk between 4 JX and 80 MS.


We know it is about a 6-7 minute drive between 4 JX and 80 MS.


We know that LE released the following information (and left the following out)

Fotis’ phone departed 4 JX (At what time? How long did it take to get to 80 MS? Did it go directly?)

Fotis’ phone “enters” 80 MS at 1:37 PM (From Where? How long did it take?)

Fotis’ phone stays at 80 MS until 3:38. LE mentions this is more than 2 hours. (Why mention this?)

Fotis’ phone goes from 80 MS to 4 JX in the time between 3:38 and 4:17. (This is the only time LE gives us the start time and end time of a trip. Are they making a point that they know he walked, since that is about the amount of time it takes? Or are they making a point that they know he traveled elsewhere in between?)

Fotis’ phone is back at 4JX at 4:17.

Fotis’”had returned” to 80 MS at 5:21 (When did it leave 4 JX? Did it go directly?)

Fotis’ phone arrived at his residence 4JX at 5:34 (When did it leave 80 JX? Did it go directly? If he drove directly for 7 minutes, he left at 5:27 and spent only 6 minutes there.)

“At 19:10, Dulos’ device travelled to the area of Albany Avenue.” (Did he leave 4 JX at 7:10, or arrive on Albany Avenue at 7:10?)

“At 19:41, Dulos’ device left the area of Albany Avenue and returned to his residence.” (When did it return? The same time as the neighbors’ video surveillance?)

One of the following is true: There are 2 cameras that caught the action we read about in the arrest warrant, or there were two males, one affirmatively called “Dulos,” and two black Raptors, one affirmatively Dulos’.


The first video mentioned in the arrest warrant says it showed a black raptor pull into “Dulos’” driveway. A man who “matched the appearance of the male depicted in Hartford,” walked to “Dulos’ mailbox” and “retrieved the mail.” The male got back in “the” Raptor and drove further on the property out of camera range. No info on the tags. The Raptor continued onto the property and out of camera range. This was said to occur at 8:12 PM.


The second video mentioned was very clear that it depicted Dulos. It stated that a black Raptor with Dulos’ tags pulled up, and that Dulos – not a male- got out and walked to the mail box. It does NOT say that mail was removed. No actions involving the mailbox (or anything else) were mentioned aside from walking to the mailbox, and returning to “his” car. It says what Dulos – not a male- appeared to be wearing: a light colored tee shirt and black pants. The licence plate was readable. There was no information about the Raptor continuing in any direction. This was said to occur at 8:10 PM.

(Is this warrant saying that there were two different cameras that showed different angles and levels of detail, set to two different times? In other words, was there only one male in a black raptor, and one video had enough clarity to capture the plate, call the man “Dulos” and assert that the car, driveway and mailbox was “his,” while the other only showed that the man matched the description of the Albany Avenue male and could not show with certainty which Black Raptor it was?)


(Is this warrant subtly saying that there were two different males, one who matched the description of the person on Albany Avenue, who himself “matched the description” of Dulos, driving one Black Raptor, and Dulos driving his actual Black Raptor? If so, why the backwards order? That would indicate that Dulos arrived and walked to the mailbox, then went who-knows-where? Then the male resembling Dulos did more or less the same but retrieved the mail two minutes later.)


It takes about 20-40 minutes, very loose estimate, depending on route, traffic, and which part of the “area” of Albany Avenue the device left from.

(Did they start distributing the contents of the truck farther from home and work their way closer, or the other way around?)

I do not believe this was a direct drive or a drive without stops from Hartford to 4 FX; I think there are 10-30 minutes unaccounted for.

Very well thought out and many questions to answer! It's always been in the back of my mind that FD may have traveled to NC the night before. MOO.

 

[Twistinginthewind]

What is the difference between a criminal protective order (which KM violated via FD) and a restraining order?
Wouldn't the criminal protective order that KM violated still be in place?

Good questions, IMO.

MOO, and perhaps this is from a 'jaded' point of view based on FD's past behavior, but FD contacting KM's wife on KM's behalf, who was under a no-contact order, on several occasions seems like typical FD - "King of The End Run" and "pushing the boundaries of legal court orders" behavior to me. Or harassment. Or threatening behavior towards yet another a STBX wife in his circle.

Either way, I think it's revealing of FD's mindset that he would contact his partner in crime's, I mean ex lawyer's, I mean friend's estranged wife who KM had allegedly committed crimes against / was not allowed to contact, and try to get her to come over to his house and use it as a meet up / make up spot or whatever. Totally unsolicted and out of the blue for KM's wife.

As per usual, FD's lawyer makes statements to the media about yet another frightened, abused woman who was trying to "do the right thing" and navigate their divorces in the court system, making "crazy accusations" in response to a real and perceived threat against their well being.

I can't believe these two (FD and KM) are getting away with bending the rules and are not getting punished for threatening and harassing behavior towards their estranged wives. They seem like a pair of unhinged, money grubbing, abusive goons to me, regardless of whatever semblance of prominence / professional status they're trying to hold onto and work to their advantage, to the detriment and disadvantage of their estranged wives.

Oh, that's right. It's CT, where the rich and corrupt seem to have an inexcusable amount of power and unaccountability and hubris that just seems so unbelievable and just plain wrong, but the judge errs on the side of disbelieving the wife.

It is outrageous, despicable, unbelievable, IMO.

MOOey MOOey PHOOey

 

[afitzy]

As far as I know, text messages don’t accurately indicate your location-I mean, what did she do? Text his phone and say “where are you”, and get one back from someone saying “Farmington”? That isn’t proof of anything.

What I find facinating as we watch this play out, is in this latest Pattis motion we see him YET AGAIN talking about MT. No Case Norm has so consistently worked to tie these two together like Bonnie and Clyde in almost all of his public patter. Why?

But to take a sentence or 2 jab at the KM wife attempting to ask the court for protection from her alcohol abusing husband and an alleged sexual assault in such a derogotory way, I have to ask did Pattis not understand the backlash following his "Gone Girl" miscalculation and PR disaster or does he simply like to attack women? Seemed simply like more miogynistic patter from Pattis IMO and completely unnecessary to the discussion at hand.

MOO

 

[Jmoose]

Either skip this post, or get a drink and a snack. This is really long, and goes back to the arrest warrant.

I am trying to understand the party the night before, what vehicles were where, and when it would be possible for Fotis to travel to New Canaan.

I have not read every chain, but of the ones I have read I haven't seen three things discussed often, and I think might be significant.

One, it takes about 40 minutes by foot to travel between 4JX and 80 MS. I think he did this once and LE showed they know it on the warrant. and I think he could have done so again after the evening party.

Two, there are roads other than the interstates and the Merritt to take between Jennifer's home and 4 JX. This route is longer than on the highways without traffic, but are significantly shorter when traffic is backed up, so I am sure these routes are known to Fotis. One might cut through NY for a short time, which apparently Fotis did with his ankle bracelet on.

The third is below in the bolded, italicized and colorized sections below. I have a feeling there is something between the lines in the 2 paragraphs of the arrest warrant about the Black Raptor captured on video coming home at 8:10 ish and stopping at the mailbox.

Any LE people here? I don't think it would be noticed if an "impossible" CT tag was driving along in daylight. I believe if a tag is being sought, the data can be searched for it.

I think Fotis travelled in the in darkness Thursday night or Friday morning by a vehicle. I don't know if it was the red Tacoma or another vehicle, but I suspect it traveled with the altered plate. I believe he travelled back in daylight in a vehicle, again I don't know which one.


Things I think are solid are in Red

Things I wonder are in purple

My MOO juice is in black


Thursday Evening or Night:


There was some kind of gathering/party at 4 Jefferson Crossing. Michelle, Fotis, and a woman who left her purse were there.

(Who else was there?)


(What were the times of guests arriving/departing?)


(What Dulos/Traconis vehicles were parked there for the night?)


(Where was the blk Raptor?) (Or the black Raptors? See below.)


(Where was the employee’s red Tacoma?)


(Were the party arrivals and departures captured on the neighbor’s or neighbors’ camera or cameras?)

On Thursday, May 23rd in Farmington, sunset was at _____; twilight was at 8:43.


The weather at 6:00 PM was partly cloudy, 64 degree, 9mph breeze. Weather was stable until about 3:00. It cooled to a low of 57 degrees between 3:00 AM and 6:00 AM the next morning. The moon was waning and 6 days after the full moon. The moon rose on Thursday evening at 11:43.


The temperature varied a bit more in New Canaan. At 6:00 PM the temperature was higher at 70, and it was down to 57 by midnight, and hit a low at 6:00 AM of 52 degrees. The wind was slightly stronger, 11 mph, but the details about cloudiness were the same.


On Friday, May 24th in New Canaan, morning twilight was at 4:52, and sunrise was at 5:24. It was darkest until 4:11 AM, although the larger than half moon was out in the partly cloudy skies.


We know it is about a 40 minute walk between 4 JX and 80 MS.


We know it is about a 6-7 minute drive between 4 JX and 80 MS.


We know that LE released the following information (and left the following out)

Fotis’ phone departed 4 JX (At what time? How long did it take to get to 80 MS? Did it go directly?)

Fotis’ phone “enters” 80 MS at 1:37 PM (From Where? How long did it take?)

Fotis’ phone stays at 80 MS until 3:38. LE mentions this is more than 2 hours. (Why mention this?)

Fotis’ phone goes from 80 MS to 4 JX in the time between 3:38 and 4:17. (This is the only time LE gives us the start time and end time of a trip. Are they making a point that they know he walked, since that is about the amount of time it takes? Or are they making a point that they know he traveled elsewhere in between?)

Fotis’ phone is back at 4JX at 4:17.

Fotis’”had returned” to 80 MS at 5:21 (When did it leave 4 JX? Did it go directly?)

Fotis’ phone arrived at his residence 4JX at 5:34 (When did it leave 80 JX? Did it go directly? If he drove directly for 7 minutes, he left at 5:27 and spent only 6 minutes there.)

“At 19:10, Dulos’ device travelled to the area of Albany Avenue.” (Did he leave 4 JX at 7:10, or arrive on Albany Avenue at 7:10?)

“At 19:41, Dulos’ device left the area of Albany Avenue and returned to his residence.” (When did it return? The same time as the neighbors’ video surveillance?)

One of the following is true: There are 2 cameras that caught the action we read about in the arrest warrant, or there were two males, one affirmatively called “Dulos,” and two black Raptors, one affirmatively Dulos’.


The first video mentioned in the arrest warrant says it showed a black raptor pull into “Dulos’” driveway. A man who “matched the appearance of the male depicted in Hartford,” walked to “Dulos’ mailbox” and “retrieved the mail.” The male got back in “the” Raptor and drove further on the property out of camera range. No info on the tags. The Raptor continued onto the property and out of camera range. This was said to occur at 8:12 PM.


The second video mentioned was very clear that it depicted Dulos. It stated that a black Raptor with Dulos’ tags pulled up, and that Dulos – not a male- got out and walked to the mail box. It does NOT say that mail was removed. No actions involving the mailbox (or anything else) were mentioned aside from walking to the mailbox, and returning to “his” car. It says what Dulos – not a male- appeared to be wearing: a light colored tee shirt and black pants. The licence plate was readable. There was no information about the Raptor continuing in any direction. This was said to occur at 8:10 PM.

(Is this warrant saying that there were two different cameras that showed different angles and levels of detail, set to two different times? In other words, was there only one male in a black raptor, and one video had enough clarity to capture the plate, call the man “Dulos” and assert that the car, driveway and mailbox was “his,” while the other only showed that the man matched the description of the Albany Avenue male and could not show with certainty which Black Raptor it was?)


(Is this warrant subtly saying that there were two different males, one who matched the description of the person on Albany Avenue, who himself “matched the description” of Dulos, driving one Black Raptor, and Dulos driving his actual Black Raptor? If so, why the backwards order? That would indicate that Dulos arrived and walked to the mailbox, then went who-knows-where? Then the male resembling Dulos did more or less the same but retrieved the mail two minutes later.)


It takes about 20-40 minutes, very loose estimate, depending on route, traffic, and which part of the “area” of Albany Avenue the device left from.

(Did they start distributing the contents of the truck farther from home and work their way closer, or the other way around?)

I do not believe this was a direct drive or a drive without stops from Hartford to 4 FX; I think there are 10-30 minutes unaccounted for.

Nice work!!

 

[Jmoose]

What I find facinating watch this play out is in this latest Pattis motion we seem him YET AGAIN talking about MT.

That there is a sign-he is signaling to her to stay true. MOO, she isn’t being cooperative and they (FD and NP) want to keep it that way.

 

[nina318]

What I find facinating watch this play out is in this latest Pattis motion we seem him YET AGAIN talking about MT.

There's no doubt in my mind MT and FD are still together. True soulmates. MOO.

 

[HopeForTheBest]

As far as I know, text messages don’t accurately indicate your location-I mean, what did she do? Text his phone and say “where are you”, and get one back from someone saying “Farmington”? That isn’t proof of anything.

I know texts sent and received show up if you want to look for them like on a Verizon (and surely other carriers) bill report because someone I know with way too much time on her hands looks them up on her family bill. This does not mean you can read the messages, just that they’re logged because they’re sent with the cell phone. Remember the days of measured numbers of texts?

So we’d be right back to whether we can totally depend on a cell phone always being in the control and presence of the owner, and we know we can’t. You also can send texts by computer like spammers do and then you certainly can have them arrive and send anytime you like. Just MOO.

 

[afitzy]

Either skip this post, or get a drink and a snack. This is really long, and goes back to the arrest warrant.

I am trying to understand the party the night before, what vehicles were where, and when it would be possible for Fotis to travel to New Canaan.

I have not read every chain, but of the ones I have read I haven't seen three things discussed often, and I think might be significant.

One, it takes about 40 minutes by foot to travel between 4JX and 80 MS. I think he did this once and LE showed they know it on the warrant. and I think he could have done so again after the evening party.

Two, there are roads other than the interstates and the Merritt to take between Jennifer's home and 4 JX. This route is longer than on the highways without traffic, but are significantly shorter when traffic is backed up, so I am sure these routes are known to Fotis. One might cut through NY for a short time, which apparently Fotis did with his ankle bracelet on.

The third is below in the bolded, italicized and colorized sections below. I have a feeling there is something between the lines in the 2 paragraphs of the arrest warrant about the Black Raptor captured on video coming home at 8:10 ish and stopping at the mailbox.

Any LE people here? I don't think it would be noticed if an "impossible" CT tag was driving along in daylight. I believe if a tag is being sought, the data can be searched for it.

I think Fotis travelled in the in darkness Thursday night or Friday morning by a vehicle. I don't know if it was the red Tacoma or another vehicle, but I suspect it traveled with the altered plate. I believe he travelled back in daylight in a vehicle, again I don't know which one.


Things I think are solid are in Red

Things I wonder are in purple

My MOO juice is in black


Thursday Evening or Night:


There was some kind of gathering/party at 4 Jefferson Crossing. Michelle, Fotis, and a woman who left her purse were there.

(Who else was there?)


(What were the times of guests arriving/departing?)


(What Dulos/Traconis vehicles were parked there for the night?)


(Where was the blk Raptor?) (Or the black Raptors? See below.)


(Where was the employee’s red Tacoma?)


(Were the party arrivals and departures captured on the neighbor’s or neighbors’ camera or cameras?)

On Thursday, May 23rd in Farmington, sunset was at _____; twilight was at 8:43.


The weather at 6:00 PM was partly cloudy, 64 degree, 9mph breeze. Weather was stable until about 3:00. It cooled to a low of 57 degrees between 3:00 AM and 6:00 AM the next morning. The moon was waning and 6 days after the full moon. The moon rose on Thursday evening at 11:43.


The temperature varied a bit more in New Canaan. At 6:00 PM the temperature was higher at 70, and it was down to 57 by midnight, and hit a low at 6:00 AM of 52 degrees. The wind was slightly stronger, 11 mph, but the details about cloudiness were the same.


On Friday, May 24th in New Canaan, morning twilight was at 4:52, and sunrise was at 5:24. It was darkest until 4:11 AM, although the larger than half moon was out in the partly cloudy skies.


We know it is about a 40 minute walk between 4 JX and 80 MS.


We know it is about a 6-7 minute drive between 4 JX and 80 MS.


We know that LE released the following information (and left the following out)

Fotis’ phone departed 4 JX (At what time? How long did it take to get to 80 MS? Did it go directly?)

Fotis’ phone “enters” 80 MS at 1:37 PM (From Where? How long did it take?)

Fotis’ phone stays at 80 MS until 3:38. LE mentions this is more than 2 hours. (Why mention this?)

Fotis’ phone goes from 80 MS to 4 JX in the time between 3:38 and 4:17. (This is the only time LE gives us the start time and end time of a trip. Are they making a point that they know he walked, since that is about the amount of time it takes? Or are they making a point that they know he traveled elsewhere in between?)

Fotis’ phone is back at 4JX at 4:17.

Fotis’”had returned” to 80 MS at 5:21 (When did it leave 4 JX? Did it go directly?)

Fotis’ phone arrived at his residence 4JX at 5:34 (When did it leave 80 JX? Did it go directly? If he drove directly for 7 minutes, he left at 5:27 and spent only 6 minutes there.)

“At 19:10, Dulos’ device travelled to the area of Albany Avenue.” (Did he leave 4 JX at 7:10, or arrive on Albany Avenue at 7:10?)

“At 19:41, Dulos’ device left the area of Albany Avenue and returned to his residence.” (When did it return? The same time as the neighbors’ video surveillance?)

One of the following is true: There are 2 cameras that caught the action we read about in the arrest warrant, or there were two males, one affirmatively called “Dulos,” and two black Raptors, one affirmatively Dulos’.


The first video mentioned in the arrest warrant says it showed a black raptor pull into “Dulos’” driveway. A man who “matched the appearance of the male depicted in Hartford,” walked to “Dulos’ mailbox” and “retrieved the mail.” The male got back in “the” Raptor and drove further on the property out of camera range. No info on the tags. The Raptor continued onto the property and out of camera range. This was said to occur at 8:12 PM.


The second video mentioned was very clear that it depicted Dulos. It stated that a black Raptor with Dulos’ tags pulled up, and that Dulos – not a male- got out and walked to the mail box. It does NOT say that mail was removed. No actions involving the mailbox (or anything else) were mentioned aside from walking to the mailbox, and returning to “his” car. It says what Dulos – not a male- appeared to be wearing: a light colored tee shirt and black pants. The licence plate was readable. There was no information about the Raptor continuing in any direction. This was said to occur at 8:10 PM.

(Is this warrant saying that there were two different cameras that showed different angles and levels of detail, set to two different times? In other words, was there only one male in a black raptor, and one video had enough clarity to capture the plate, call the man “Dulos” and assert that the car, driveway and mailbox was “his,” while the other only showed that the man matched the description of the Albany Avenue male and could not show with certainty which Black Raptor it was?)


(Is this warrant subtly saying that there were two different males, one who matched the description of the person on Albany Avenue, who himself “matched the description” of Dulos, driving one Black Raptor, and Dulos driving his actual Black Raptor? If so, why the backwards order? That would indicate that Dulos arrived and walked to the mailbox, then went who-knows-where? Then the male resembling Dulos did more or less the same but retrieved the mail two minutes later.)


It takes about 20-40 minutes, very loose estimate, depending on route, traffic, and which part of the “area” of Albany Avenue the device left from.

(Did they start distributing the contents of the truck farther from home and work their way closer, or the other way around?)

I do not believe this was a direct drive or a drive without stops from Hartford to 4 FX; I think there are 10-30 minutes unaccounted for.

Lots of interesting ideas. Will go back and read the arrest warrant again as there is alot to unpack in your post.

There is something that has always bothered me about the 4Jx party that you bring up here.

In my mind I guess I had always wondered if it was possibly cooked up by the 2 co-conspirators/suspects in this case and it was also odd to me that there was this aura around the party as being one of 'celebration'. Did FD and MT announce to their friends that they planned to get married and spend their lives together? IDK But it seemed odd timing to get a bunch of friends together IMO.

Given what was to come next on the 24th made this entire event at 4Jx so profoundly distasteful as I cannot get the idea out of my head that the 2 events (party at 4Jx and JD missing on 24th) are tied. We have zero evidence to support this feeling that has been floating around in my head now for so long but the timing of the events simply seemed strange. I don't believe in coincidence so this party at 4Jx always unsettled me for reasons that are probably too gruesome to contemplate.

MOO

 

[HopeForTheBest]

See? I am dense-I couldn’t figure that out

You are not dense at ALL.

 

[MsJosie]

JMO but here's the TL;DR version of this response for those who have more important things to do than read 5 pages of Norm Pattis lunacy in a size 12 font. "Hi, I'm Mr. Dotis' attorney. I'm writing this 5 page letter to cry, complain, and bellyache about how the media attention towards my client is unfair and UNSOLICITED. It's unsolicited attention, but yet I go on radio shows and do interviews with that same media all the time. I also use that media to spin stupid stories about how this is a real life GONE GIRL. I refuse to abide by your "gag" order because I need to say baseless things to the media so that they are interested in the case while I simultaneously deride them and the attention they're bringing (even though I clearly seek out and welcome that attention). Please accept these 5 pages of drivel from my paralegal with the boyish looking haircut on this, the 7th day of August 2019."

Oh my, that is perfect!

 

[Tink56]

I know texts sent and received show up if you want to look for them like on a Verizon (and surely other carriers) bill report because someone I know with way too much time on her hands looks them up on her family bill. This does not mean you can read the messages, just that they’re logged because they’re sent with the cell phone. Remember the days of measured numbers of texts?

So we’d be right back to whether we can totally depend on a cell phone always being in the control and presence of the owner, and we know we can’t. You also can send texts by computer like spammers do and then you certainly can have them arrive and send anytime you like. Just MOO.

DELETED BY ME....Brain Burp...

 

[afitzy]

Good questions, IMO.

MOO, and perhaps this is from a 'jaded' point of view based on FD's past behavior, but FD contacting KM's wife on KM's behalf, who was under a no-contact order, on several occasions seems like typical FD - "King of The End Run" and "pushing the boundaries of legal court orders" behavior to me. Or harassment. Or threatening behavior towards yet another a STBX wife in his circle.

Either way, I think it's revealing of FD's mindset that he would contact his partner in crime's, I mean ex lawyer's, I mean friend's estranged wife who KM had allegedly committed crimes against / was not allowed to contact, and try to get her to come over to his house and use it as a meet up / make up spot or whatever. Totally unsolicted and out of the blue for KM's wife.

As per usual, FD's lawyer makes statements to the media about yet another frightened, abused woman who was trying to "do the right thing" and navigate their divorces in the court system, making "crazy accusations" in response to a real and perceived threat against their well being.

I can't believe these two (FD and KM) are getting away with bending the rules and are not getting punished for threatening and harassing behavior towards their estranged wives. They seem like a pair of unhinged, money grubbing, abusive goons to me, regardless of whatever semblance of prominence / professional status they're trying to hold onto and work to their advantage, to the detriment and disadvantage of their estranged wives.

Oh, that's right. It's CT, where the rich and corrupt seem to have an inexcusable amount of power and unaccountability and hubris that just seems so unbelievable and just plain wrong, but the judge errs on the side of disbelieving the wife.

It is outrageous, despicable, unbelievable, IMO.

MOOey MOOey PHOOey

Can you imagine if this all evolves into both a murder case along with a conspiracy to commit murder case of KM wife? Not sure where all this is going to end. MOO

 

[HopeForTheBest]

This guy really bothers me, too. How did KM know him again? Did KM have access to many "garage repairmen" who carried crowbars and gas cans on their "repair" assignments? What the heck!

I imagine that many lawyers meet a variety of people with unique skills in their business and become at least somewhat acquainted with them if they represent them. Based on the presumed FD/KM favor exchange, KM seems to recognize the possibilities in such opportunities. MOO.

 

[Jmoose]

I know texts sent and received show up if you want to look for them like on a Verizon (and surely other carriers) bill report because someone I know with way too much time on her hands looks them up on her family bill. This does not mean you can read the messages, just that they’re logged because they’re sent with the cell phone. Remember the days of measured numbers of texts?

So we’d be right back to whether we can totally depend on a cell phone always being in the control and presence of the owner, and we know we can’t. You also can send texts by computer like spammers do and then you certainly can have them arrive and send anytime you like. Just MOO.

You wouldn’t have to jump through these hoops, if you had a third associate who was with FD’s phone. But if you didn’t want to involve a third person, I guess you could do as the spammers do. Would you actually need a computer, or would a third smart phone do the trick?

 

[andalso]

Remember KM's wife said Fotis was indebted to KM. Seems killing KM's wife would be a way to repay that debt. IMO

 

[oceancalling]

What is the difference between a criminal protective order (which KM violated via FD) and a restraining order?
Wouldn't the criminal protective order that KM violated still be in place?

It is my understanding that the order she was seeking would allow LE to arrest KM immediately if he violated its terms, so there is on the spot criminal enforcement of its terms. The order she had previously been granted requires her to file a motion of contempt, make another court appearance and bear the burden of proving he violated the order. So, it does not offer her the same protections as the order she recently sought.