Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #19

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This is so solid, oceancalling! I wish you and afitzy would take the lead detective to lunch and share your thoughts. Take along a couple of those local reporters if you can pry them away from Pattis' possessive paws!

Let’s hope they are reading. I feel sure they are as there is much done here that can help them and they surely have more than enough to do. I also am sure the “dark side” reads and sometimes comes out of the shadows to try to dissuade us but based on past patterns, they can’t take the scrutiny very long and then retreat to try to think of more smoke and mirrors. All MOO.
 
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Mother of missing New Canaan woman Jennifer Farber Dulos responds: I’ll get psychiatric evaluation if estranged husband Fotis Dulos does, too
To be clear, [Gloria] Farber has no objection to the Court ordering her to undergo a psychological evaluation if the Court deems it appropriate, Farber’s lawyer, Anne Dranginis, said in a statement Saturday. “Any such order should be reciprocal such that the defendant should likewise be evaluated, and the costs of the same should be allocated between Mrs. Farber and the defendant.”
Dranginis didn’t respond directly to Rochlin’s allegations, saying only Saturday that his motion is a “distorted, self-serving reference to a private, health-related issue that was resolved many years ago, as the defendant is well aware."

“His effort to not only publicly shame Mrs. Farber, but in essence shame any person that has appropriately addressed a mental health issue, sends a poor message to his children,” Dranginis said.

“It is Mrs. Farber who has competently managed their care since the dreadful events of May 24, 2019 have so negatively affected their lives,” Dranginis wrote. “Most importantly, Mrs. Farber has steadfastly demonstrated her devotion to her grandchildren and competence to provide for them financially, physically and emotionally especially since their mother, whose demise is greatly feared, went missing.”

Dranginis also criticized the tone of the motion.
Instead of filing a straightforward motion for psychological evaluation, as is done in countless dissolution proceedings, the defendant’s motion is intended to be salacious and again demonstrates his capacity for cruelty, inability to abide by Court orders and his efforts to publicly shame Mrs. Farber as he did to his wife in the context of the earlier divorce proceedings,” she said.

I’m printing this as a masterpiece of kicking a** and scorching the earth. Seriously. Love it more than I can say!
 
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It’s so funny but I knew I’d heard of GF before but it was indeed as Dr. Gloria Farber. Very cool that her Ph.D. is in education, and I love the Headstart connection. My grandmother was a Headstart teacher in rural Alabama and when we’d visit, she’d take us on her daily trips up and down the red-dirt hills in her little Maverick to pick up the Headstart kids to make sure they got to school to help them have, yes, a headstart. Lovely. So much good in this world. MOO.
 
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I really wonder if its possible to get in and drive a car and leave no DNA? I don't think its a mystery why so many cars are burned out after they are stolen or driven into water.

I'm assuming if FD made the statement at the Wed BBQ about not going in the JD house because of leaving DNA that he would not want to be inside the JD Suburban on the 24th but maybe he had been in the vehicle before with the children and/or JD and that would be alibi enough? IDK.

I am curious whose DNA will be found in the JD Suburban at Waveny, how clear the Hartford CCTV is of FD dropping off the Suburban mat on Albany, and whether LE ever found the mat (or its been located and a misinformation leak was made to confuse the Defense?).

Perhaps FD drove the EE Red Truck to Irwin Park and left it there earlier in the morning on the 24th. FD then jogs from Irwin Park to Welles and surprises JD in the garage. He then loads the body in the rug into the back of the the JD Suburban and drives back to Irwin where he loads the body into the EE Red Truck and then drives the JD Suburban to Waveny where he parks it on Lapham Rd. He then jogs from Waveny to Irwin and drives the EE Red Truck back to 80 MS where he does his evil work (in a clean room) in preparation for the planned trip down Albany.

The JD Suburban at Waveny is the piece of this puzzle that I still am fuzzy about due to the DNA issues. Or, was FD DNA not an issue because FD had been in the car previously either with JD and/or JD and the children?

I am also trying to figure out if FD was somehow able to get EE to help him get from Pt A to Pt B in NC on the 24th or to possibly move the JD Suburban thinking that it might have been FD Suburban? The jogging piece of this puzzle seems somewhat improbable but it also might be only way for a single person to accomplish everything using the vehicles that we believe were involved with this crime (JD Suburban/FD Ford Raptor and EE Red Toyota truck.

Would EE know the difference between the FD 2015 Suburban and JD 2017 Suburban if he were asked by FD to drive a Suburban from one location to another? How could FD have manipulated EE to get the EE DNA on the JD Suburban?

Still puzzled. HELP!

MOO

I think JD might have gotten the suburban after she left FD, so his DNA shouldn’t have been in there.
 
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I’m thinking he may have had plane tickets for 6-8 people (MT and daughter are an optional extra). That they were for maybe a 10-day dated return (‘just a regular vacation, your honour’). Once there, and once it was established JD was truly missing, he would have an excuse to keep the kids in Greece, with an aunt/cousin.

If plane tickets were involved, the date they were booked would be interesting.

I seem to remember the kids were getting out from school early that day. Was it the last day of the school year?

It wasn’t the end of the school year; the children still had maybe 2 weeks left after JD disappeared.
 
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Could not make this up if I tried!

Don't forget "Life is about choices".....truly laughable/ironic marketing strategy for a man who might/likely/did kill his wife. Let's see, maybe we could now move to ......"Liquidation-Forclosure Sale everything must go---to the dogs/lawyers"


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HaHaHaha! I can’t get over this. Watch again for the realtor’s company name.

Any person in England or Australia would know TEA LEAF is rhyming slang for THIEF!

TEA LEAF | meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary

FD is trying to display a sense of humour!

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It wasn’t the end of the school year; the children still had maybe 2 weeks left after JD disappeared.

Thanks. How common is it in the US for parents to take children out of school a couple of weeks early for the summer?
 
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Thanks. How common is it in the US for parents to take children out of school a couple of weeks early for the summer?
IMO as a Mother, not very. In the North children's school break is usually in June till after Labor Day. By Labor Day September 2nd, we can't wait till their back at school!
 
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Thanks. How common is it in the US for parents to take children out of school a couple of weeks early for the summer?

Not common; at least I’ve hardly ever seen it.
 
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Reading this, FO, NP and KM must be pooping their pants.
Could he


I think your hypothesis is consistent with the evidence we know and on point. One question remains for me and that is the role of an active accomplice, one who dropped FD off at Jennifer's home and later helped move Jennifer's body. Could FD himself have parked the red truck, with the doctored plates on them at a nearby, secluded location before traveling to Jennifer's home to ambush her? He then walked to JD's home through the woods, once again avoiding security cameras (which, by the way is evidence of premeditation).

I have zero doubt he was waiting for her when she arrived home, and he killed her in the garage. He left evidence there because, despite his belief in his superior planning skills, he did not intend to leave an actual bloody mess there. He must have panicked, because why else would he have so stupidly washed his hands in the kitchen sink? At every step, he was not the mastermind he thought he was, but then, what else is new?

After murdering her, he transported Jennifer's body (which was rolled up in the carpet) in her SUV to that secluded location. There, he placed her in the bed of the truck, still rolled up in the carpet. He then left the "carpet roll", or even her tarped body, in the red truck ,and drove Jennifer's SUV to the park, where he left it as part of his PRE-PLANNED Gone Girl scenario. He then returned through a wooded area to the secluded red truck. His walks in the wood explain the poison ivy rash observed during his arrest, which he cannot deny. In fact, I believe he may have traveled through the woods as a way to avoid being seen more than once, so he could have been exposed to poison ivy more than once. He took affirmative steps to avoid direction by traveling through at least one wooded area, and those steps were planned in advance by him.

Jennifer's body was in the back of the truck, which we know to be true, because why else did FD take the trouble to have the car professionally cleaned before returning it to his employee? This scenario also explains the altered plates. He left put those plates on the truck before he parked it , so that if a witness ever remembered it s/he would remember a bad tag number, thereby preventing LE from connecting that tag/truck to him. I have felt since day one that the red truck's movements on that day are critical as is that poison ivy evidence.

Once Jennifer's car was where it is supposed to be, FD has all the time he needed to begin whatever sick s*** he did to her body in order to dispose of it. We further know whatever that was involved a knife, "lots" of blood (the witness said he saw a large amount of blood on the pillow he saw), garbage bags, a bloody pillow, bloody sponges, mops, stripping JD of at least the bloody shirt he murdered her in and, of course, FD's jaunt to Albany Avenue, accompanied by MT. While LE may not have an actual body (they do not need it to prosecute FD for first degree murder), it has plenty.

The employee from whom FD "borrowed" the truck has already provided pieces of the puzzle IMO. Do not be surprised if he helped load the garbage bags into the truck. The location where that occurred will have significant forensic evidence. IMO the location where those bags were loaded is where FD took Jennifer's body.

What FD, in his arrogance, did not consider, is the speed with which LE would act. Getting that phone at the police station was critical. Despite NP's crudely drafted motion to suppress evidence of the phone's seizure, there is not a judge in this country who would hold that its mere seizure was a violation of the Fourth Amendment. In fact, there is United States Supreme Court precedent which explicitly rejects such claims. LE got a warrant to search that phone (or, as the Court called it "mini-computer") and it was a treasure trove. The actual forensic search of it was from the Marshal's Office, who are the most diligent group of professionals one will every meet. The FEDS were in the case from day one, which is a very, very good thing. It means task force, it means all of the resources of the federal government are helping solve this crime, and it means FD is going to prison for the rest of his life.

I believe FD had at least 2 accomplices - MT and the lawyer who was to provide the false alibi. I wonder if that alibi was concocted before or after the murder, not that it matters for purpose of prosecuting him. IMO, in light of what has now come out about that "sterling" example of the legal profession, NP would absolutely enrage people on the jury if he tried to present the attorney's perjurious testimony to them as some sort of alibi defense. The guy is completely discredited as a witness. Plus, he is already on the hook to be criminally prosecuted as an accessory and a possible co-conspirator to this murder. He will absolutely open himself up to perjury and obstruction of justice charges if he continues on his ruinous path. The last two offenses can be charged a federal felonies and the feds don't play. If have seen 5 year prison sentences for perjury in cases far, far less significant than this one.

So, now it is a matter of how many people did FD pull into this premeditated murder beforehand, and what were their respective roles? Some people are going to be more criminally culpable than others, at least based on what we know now. Some people may not have even known what he was planning before the actual murder and did not knowingly assist him in covering his tracks after the murder, but they still will be able to narrow his location and activities on the day of the murder significantly. Some people may have become involved after the fact, but nonetheless have criminal liability because they were aware of, and assisted FD in disposing evidence of this premeditated murder. IMO all the concocted evidence that FD thought he was so cleverly creating, before and after this horrendous act, will not save him. Tick, tock Mr. Dulos, your time as a free man grows shorter by the minute.

Would love to hear other theories, but I think the posters here are closer to the truth than we know. Does anyone have any ideas about where he might have taken Jennifer's body between the murder and his trip to Hartford? I am so very hopeful LE already has the answer, but am curious as to what other folks here think.
 
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We did a map early on in the process with the 2 NC houses and the Farmington properties. Check the media thread too as early on I think it was the DM or HC did a good graphic map.
I'll admit this one is getting to me. I am about to bring out the white board, but I don't think that would go over well this Labor day weekend! I have 110% confidence in LE, but after that last round of motions, I want to see FD locked up right away. I suspect that is part of the defense "strategy"-infuriate the investigative team so that it acts quickly. That is a novice mistake, and one the folks investigating Jennifer's murder will duly note and proceed accordingly. FD's C team is firing buck shot to see where it will land, but LE knows how important it is to be meticulous in its investigation.
 
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Where are you all seeing the nose change? MOO
Compare the linkedin headshot, or the smirky photo with boat key, or pretty much ANY photo of FO to the courthouse photo from last week with the fellow in the background taking footage on his phone of whomever is waiting for FO. I will look it up when I at my laptop.
 
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I believe FD went from Welles directly to Sturbridge to transfer evidence. As far as the question of who moved JD's Suburban to Waveny, I still think FD would have been adamant about not getting his DNA in JD's Suburban because that would nix his suicide/Gone Girl/employee did it scenarios. My question to LE is this: what fingerprints, if any, were found on the steering wheel of JD's Suburban? Only three choices here: 1. JD's; 2. someone else's; or 3) none/wiped clean. MOO. MOO. And furthermore, MOO.

Here is link to media thread where the 2 zillow entries are for Welles and Sturbridge and map between 2 properties. Google maps says the shortest route goes through downtown and my guess is that this wouldn't work for someone that wanted to avoid being seen. So, there is another route that is longer which avoids downtown on the map. If you zoom in on google maps take a look at Irwin Park (off of Weed Street) which might be a place where someone might leave there car as there aren't cameras so far as we know on the lower parking lot, the Winter Club (on Frogtown Rd) which might be another place to keep a car and run to Welles but there might be cameras as its a private club and NCCS which is on Frogtown Rd and just a quick drive from Welles.

CT - CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, Media, Maps, Timeline, *NO DISCUSSION*
Thanks, that was so helpful! I had seen those posts early on, but wasn't quite so invested as I am now. What jumps at me is the red truck. He had to have that truck to make his plan work! If he acted alone during the actual murders, FD used it to park in a preplanned secluded location and traveled (through woods?) to JD's house. He was so arrogant that he thought he would leave no forensic evidence at Jennifer's house and, had that proven to be correct, things might have turned out differently for him.

In fact, every step of the way, he was stupid. Now, had he gotten "lucky", a lot of the evidence would have been destroyed, but the universe had other plans for Mr. Dulos. He is going to be reviled in prison as even prisoners have a code of ethics. I am not condoning it, but there phrase 'jailhouse justice' is a real thing.

He borrowed that red truck KNOWING he was going to kill Jennifer. Had he been watching her house, waiting for the opportunity? Did he know Jennifer was not in the habit of closing that garage door when she took the children to school? When all the evidence is presented, I have no doubt this will be a first degree murder conviction.

Do I think he needed someone physically assisting him that morning? No, he could have managed alone quite well. He is such a control freak, I do not see anyone with him that morning. I am beginning to wonder, though, whether MT knew exactly what FD planned to do that morning. That returned purse seems like a contrived alibi. The trip to Albany Avenue is devastating for MT. How can she claim she didn't at least SUSPECT he was up to something fishy? Like the lawyer alibi, it seems there were a number of people willing to lie for FD. I hope every single one of them understands the consequences of continuing to do so now.
 
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Re: who drove Jennifer's Suburban to Waveny Park?

JMHO, anyone involved in equine sports/horsemanship such as polo, or snow skiing, or waterskiing, has gloves.

Women involved also are practiced at arranging their hair to keep it out of the way.

Oh! Look! Gloves on & hair up, who knew???

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White Disposable Microporous Coveralls with Hood - XL

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Not fashionable, and not Seal footies, but would likely do the job.

Do home builders have access to painter coveralls?

JMHO YMMV LRR

ETA: corrected spelling
 
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HaHaHaha! I can’t get over this. Watch again for the realtor’s company name.

Any person in England or Australia would know TEA LEAF is rhyming slang for THIEF!

TEA LEAF | meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary

FD is trying to display a sense of humour!

Eta changed link

Ha! You think that's bad? Connecticut's "unofficial" nickname is The Nutmeg State with people from CT called Nutmeggers. Look up what a Nutmegger is...
 
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This is interesting I think. Was just taking a look at Zillow for 65 Sturbridge in NC. We had a discussion about it a couple of weeks ago and the consensus was it was overpriced still after a nearly $500,000/11% price reduction in July.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/61-Sturbridge-Hill-Rd-New-Canaan-CT-06840/57327003_zpid/?

Its now on the market for $3,999,999

and the
Zestimate®
$2,700,260

Estimated sales range: $2.46M - $3.02M

I think I had ballparked the house at $2.5 million which is in the range of the Zillow estimate. This still is substantially below the list price. There are 3 mortgages on the property (Danbury Savings Bank and 2 private mortgages) and the GF attachment which I believe is presently $500,000. There are also 6 trade liens.

Not sure FO is going to be getting much $ out of this property as I believe it was purchased for $1.5 million in 7/17. Curious what the build cost was for this property to justify the price (not seeing much in terms of interior finishing work to support price IMO).

This project IMO is a bit confusing as its a bit expensive for the neighborhood, incomplete landscaping, and no pool (other houses in neighborhood have pools). Another FO head scratcher project IMO.

MOO
As an aside, that house is atrocious! All that money to look like the inside of a tract house? Even the windows are very low grade. I have seen this so much where I live. Speculators (and that is what FD was) come in and build huge houses, all of which look identical inside, and wonder why they sit on the market for months or years. The high end market is a bust pretty much everywhere, with a builders regretting not building to a different clientele. FD's design is a "dime a dozen" and that sameness surely would affect market price. As with everything, he just wasn't as smart as he thought he was.
 
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* When I saw this in June I thought FD was looking for a lawyer.
Now I know he was looking for dirt on Midler.



FD posted this message in January
Divorce in Connecticut: SUBMISSIONS
Fotis DulosJanuary 16, 2019 at 7:56 AM
Has anyone have experience with Attorney Reuben
Midler? I would be very interested in hearing their
feedback. I can be reached at 860.478.8625.
sds71, Jun 5, 2019Report
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oh, something about this makes me wanna grab my phone & forward those $$$ horoscope texts...just joshin'!

Surely no one would treat another human that way!?!?!

JMHO YMMV LRR
 
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I'll admit this one is getting to me. I am about to bring out the white board, but I don't think that would go over well this Labor day weekend! I have 110% confidence in LE, but after that last round of motions, I want to see FD locked up right away. I suspect that is part of the defense "strategy"-infuriate the investigative team so that it acts quickly. That is a novice mistake, and one the folks investigating Jennifer's murder will duly note and proceed accordingly. FD's C team is firing buck shot to see where it will land, but LE knows how important it is to be meticulous in its investigation.

I believe in my heart of hearts this truly could be the plan of DA/SA/LE all working together to show the unhinged side of FD and his team. There actions are desperate, sickening, and I am sure devestating to GF, but they are painting a phenomenal picture of how a guilty person/bottom feeding attorneys defending such person act, not an innocent one. These things will come out at trial. GF's stellar and indestructible team has prepared her well for this very thing. Good things come to those who wait.
 
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