Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #20

[hivee]

Why would he want to switch the car's seats out? A question I have as I read the warrant...

 

[afitzy]

Read about the buscam video in NC! Incredible and didn't know it existed! NCPD has pictures of Lapham over multiple times on the morning of the 24th! Amazing collection of photos IMO!

 

[HopeForTheBest]

But, how many are actually competent? I'm not optimistic that the number is high. IME. IMO.

Knowing the rigor of their educations just from those I’ve seen go through the programs in the past eight years or so makes me feel very confident in that regard. They often have their BA/BS in psychology, a master’s or they earn it in the doctoral program and then five or more years including (in the programs I know of) practicums for multiple years at real sites like prisons, hospitals, free clinics, etc. supervised by licensed, experienced psychologists, the completion of a dissertation on a related subject, a year of an internship at a working site like a behavioral hospital, a prison, etc. and then they can graduate with the Psy.D. Then they take a licensing test and they must work under the supervision including case reviews for a year or more, depending. If they do a post-doc to work toward board certification, it’s longer, of course. They also have stringent continuing ed requirements. I had no idea it was so rigorous before I learned all of this. That certainly doesn’t mean they’re all good and ethical at their work because they’re not, of course. Just MOO as I didn’t realize all of this previously. MOO.

 

[Southernsnooper]

What’s with all of Pattis’s references to Christmas gifts?
He must have had some childhood trauma where he didn’t get what he wanted. Keep it on the couch Norm! This isn’t Christmas, sorry to say. If you don’t like these gifts, there’s worse coming.

“If this were Christmas morning, I’d be saying ‘I’ve waited all these months for this paltry gift?’” Pattis said while holding up paperwork detailing the new arrest. “There’s not much here that we haven’t heard before.”
‘It’s an exhausting fight,’ Fotis Dulos says after arrested on new charges in Jennifer Dulos disappearance

“It was like waking up Christmas morning and getting an IOU,” Pattis said during an interview with WPLR’s Chaz and AJ.”
Jennifer Dulos case: No ‘clear video’ of Fotis dumping bags, Pattis says

Well if this was Christmas morning I’d be the happiest girl in the world. Best gifts ever!

MOO

 

[afitzy]

She withheld, lied, then cooperated.

@MassGuy, why do you think she wasn't hit with additional charges today? The arrest warrant language on how she didn't cooperate and then lied and then changed her mind was pretty damning IMO. Also, the prearranged 'alibi notes' were absolutely stunning as well!

Wonder how No Case Norm spins this one? The picture trail is extensive and deep. And the WS theories were pretty damn close too! Incredible to see this play out in video!

MOO

 

[HopeForTheBest]

Jennifer Dulos case: Prosecutor predicts ‘media sideshow’ without gag order
State’s Attorney Richard Colangelo said in one of two memos filed at the Stamford courthouse that defense attorney Norm Pattis has “undoubtedly crossed the line” with “improper and damaging” comments made publicly about the high-profile case of Jennifer Dulos’ disappearance.
Media coverage has been extensive and pervasive. And much of it is centered on comments (Fotis) Dulos’ lawyer has made — many directly to the press — about the case,” Colangelo said.
Colangelo asked the court on Aug. 7 to impose a gag order. In his memo Wednesday, he warned that Pattis’ statements could potentially prejudice future proceedings in the case.
“An essential tenet of the American justice system is that a criminal trial is not a referendum, and its outcome should never be determined by public-relations campaigns in the court of public opinion. Rather, verdicts must be based on evidence and argument received in court, untainted by outside influence,” Colangelo said.

Colangelo’s memo comes two weeks after Pattis penned an argument against the gag order that claimed Fotis Dulos has the right to respond to “damaging public comments fueled in large part by the warrant filed on existing charges and the sotto voce whispering of tattle-tale officers whispering innuendo to eager reporters.”
A second memo filed by Colangelo on Wednesday also argued in favor of denying Pattis’ motion from July to dismiss charges against his client, calling it a “poorly constructed Trojan Horse.”

“The reason for this is simple,” Colangelo said. “By authorizing an arrest warrant, a judge has already determined that sufficient evidence supports prosecuting those charges. No further hearings on the issue are necessary.”

I like this so much that it made my whole week!

 

[sleuth66]

“In the 12 round but that is the State vs. Dulos this doesn’t even rise to the level of a jab,” said Norm Pattis, lawyer for Fotis Dulos”

Man, if this isn’t even a jab, I wonder what real pain looks like for Norm. Had he read it yet?? FD is cooked. And MT too.

On second thought, perhaps on the scale of the atrocities FD has committed, what we’re reading here is only a jab. He knows what he did...

 

[Kapua]

According to the warrant, he was lying in wait for Jennifer, ultimately taking her body with him in her vehicle.

Blood was found inside and outside this vehicle.

Holy Sh....

 

[HopeForTheBest]

I wonder if FD really even thought about the holiday weekend. Memorial Day probably wouldn't mean much to him as it's strictly an American holiday.

If only he hadn't been caught red handed dumping the bags, I think he believes that in time everyone would believe JD really did just leave. At least it may have given the children enough reasonable doubt to believe FD was innocent.

From the beginning, Pattis and his crew have deliberately ignored anything to do with the crimes that have been charged. The evidence regarding those crimes is overwhelming. But, without those charges and that evidence they must feel there isn't much evidence supporting a murder. Or they want the public to believe that.

I remember Pattis prattling on and on about no murder charges as if the charges that have been made don't matter. I think it would almost be worthwhile to go to court on these charges and file the murder charges after the conviction. It would be nice to make NP face the fact that his client is a nut job and that Pattis can certainly relate to him.

MOOOOOO

Only MOO but so often such are the errors of those arrogant criminals who think they know everything and are smarter than everyone else so they can devise the perfect crime or whatever. It’s the little things that they deem beneath their notice (trash pickup schedules on holidays, for example) that seem to catch them up. It’s lovely, lovely, fateful irony in MOO.

 

[afitzy]

The charge as I'm reading it relates to the Town of Avon, CT on/about 5/29.

Is anyone else reading it this way? Two FORE properties in Avon are: 20 Sky View and 585 Deercliff.

 

[MassGuy]

@MassGuy, why do you think she wasn't hit with additional charges today? The arrest warrant language on how she didn't cooperate and then lied and then changed her mind was pretty damning IMO. Also, the prearranged 'alibi notes' were absolutely stunning as well!

Wonder how No Case Norm spins this one? The picture trail is extensive and deep. And the WS theories were pretty damn close too! Incredible to see this play out in video!

MOO

I’m at a complete loss. The murder case is right there.

They need nothing more than what they have, even if they are waiting on additional lab results.

We know what his employee said, and we know what MT said. I don’t like the idea of this information being out there, and FD walking free.

Why they have yet to pull the trigger is beyond me. I’d love to know why.

 

[Tink56]

I’m skimming the arrest warrant, and I can sum it up in two words:

He’s done.

Shocking amount of detail there, and a ton of evidence.

Anyone familiar with the Kelsey Berreth case will also see similarities in how MT interacted with the police (KK).

She told provable lie after provable lie, before she admitted the truth.

I just finished reading it....I'm absolutely STUNNED. It's all there. LE has done an incredible job. No wonder MT is looking haggard....but bless her for finally confirming the truth.

Still processing...this is overwhelming. What possibly can GF and the children think when they read this? (And D@#$ FD for having the audacity to say he loves his children...)

 

[afitzy]

Why would he want to switch the car's seats out? A question I have as I read the warrant...

He understands leather and its absorption properties if the seats were leather and ditto for cloth seats. No way to remove DNA evidence. The seats had to be burned, sunk or disposed of. Funny FD didn't take care of this himself. Delegated it to the person he wanted to set up! Lazy or Stupid? You pick! MOO

 

[afitzy]

I’m at a complete loss. The murder case is right there.

They need nothing more than what they have, even if they are waiting on additional lab results.

We know what his employee said, and we know what MT said. I don’t like the idea of this information being out there, and FD walking free.

Why they have yet to pull the trigger is beyond me. I’d love to know why.

I agree. Pictures tell the complete story over 20 pages in full color.

When you have your shot you need to shoot to kill and for some reason they chose not to.

Wonder why?

Well, at least we won't have to listen to No Case Norm moaning about nothing to look at in terms of evidence.

Merry/Happy Christmas No Case Norm and FD and MT! XOXO WSers!

MOO

 

[HopeForTheBest]

Wait a minute...I see all these posts...has something good happened?! It’s been a crazy-busy day for me so I know nothing...I’m going to hope for good news like I used to (fine—like I still do) hope at Christmas for a pony... I hope! Off to read!

 

[Kapua]

Why would he want to switch the car's seats out? A question I have as I read the warrant...

That reminds me of Hans Reiser, who removed the passenger seat of his vehicle after transporting the body of his estranged wife in it. Ugh.

 

[Kapua]

Wait a minute...I see all these posts...has something good happened?! It’s been a crazy-busy day for me so I know nothing...I’m going to hope for good news like I used to (fine—like I still do) hope at Christmas for a pony... I hope! Off to read!

You have some catching up to do. (Me, too.)

 

[MemPat]

I know. This could easily be mistaken as an arrest warrant for murder.

This case is far stronger than I thought it was, and I already thought it was very strong.

It's just stunning!

I love what police called the "Alibi Script"!

One can't help but laugh that MT said she didn't know what FD was doing with those bags in Hartford because she was on her cell phone.

This reminds me of the day we got the big information dump against Frazee and it will be so interesting to hear the Pathetic Pattis Patter spilling out.

I just don't understand why there is no murder warrant and denial of bond though I'm sure not going to doubt the wisdom of LE in this.

 

[oviedo]

Para 3 - blood on the car in the garage just as I thought ...
Para 5 blood inside and outside her SUV
Para 7 - LE contacted him at 9am on 5/25
Para 10- MT identified herself in the Hartford trash bag odyssey
Para 11 - handwritten notes outlining what they should remember about 5/2
Para 13- Porsche seats from JDs car removed and placed in Jeep b employee at the direction of FD
Para 15 - red pickup on surveillance including photos including school bus footage
Para 16- 18- seats have Her DNA and employee kept them after swapping them out and provided the seats that were in the vehicle on 5/24 (original and had her DNA)
Lots of detail about the use of the employees truck
Para 20- MT gets a call from car wash
Para 21 - surveillance of Troconis and Dulos driving the red truck and she’s following him 5/29 - car wash
Para 22- video of FD at car wash in red truck
Para 23-25 bank surveillance of MT and FD together withdrawing $500
Follow up questioning of MT reveals inconsistencies

Will update as I read through

 

[HopeForTheBest]

This is terrific news! I wonder how "confident" and "gregarious" FD is now? I look forward to NP's next media appearance. MOO!

Yes! Omg! That is it for me; I’m putting a Google alert for FD/JD on my phone and email so I never miss such great news again!