Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #21

[spaz1959]

Yeah, I'm with you. I too thought that statement was the equivalent of "since you are telling me that you found Jennifer's blood inside the door, I would assume that the blood was transferred directly from her body." I would even call it a slightly sarcastic rendering.

I took it to be sarcasm too.

 

[afitzy]

I may be missing something in your deep analysis but I just think she is lying to cover her bony arse. MOO.

Cannot disagree with you at all. But why did she lie? All lies have some reason behind them. Did she do it for herself or did she do it for FO or for some reason we don't yet understand?

I've just been fixated on the idea of trying to understand why MT has been behaving as she has!

We know she is a well established and practiced liar. I'm just trying to figure out why?

Most people don't lie to lie (some do but the research says not so many pathological liars out there).

I've come full circle on the MT issue as I can only conclude that she was an integral member of the FO + HO team and the reason she most likely lied to Atty Bowman and LE was because she couldn't figure out a way to 'come clean' without admitting to murder. I think its the premeditated aspect of the murder that now seems to be clearer and MT role in the overall murder that was simply overwhelming for MT to deal with. Don't get me wrong. I don't think she feels remorse and I don't think she feels anything at all. I think she is emotionally wired just like FD and they were two peas in a pod that planned and executed a murder plot plain and simple.

The 2+ month lying period was just MT getting to the point where she might just possibly admit her role and was working to get the best deal possible from the State IMO. Its quite stunning to be an outsider in all this because what it looks like is that MT at the core is a coward that not only couldn't fess up publicly but couldn't fess up internally to herself as to being a murderer. I wonder if MT has taken responsibility for much in her life ever and does she care about anyone other than herself? I seriously doubt it and I hope that she is punished severely!

If she just started talking on 8/13 then this process is ongoing and new and most likely no deal exists. IMO MT is going to prison, the issue is just for how long and for which charges.

MOO MOO

 

[CTGrammy]

So well said and absolutely correct about CT IMO. I didn't do as well as you explaining it earlier this evening and people jumped on me a bit for saying EE would have been terrified and the financial issues were huge as well. I remember ages ago trying to find an atty for a small matter and it took 3 weeks because nobody would take less than $15,000 retainer. It was pure craziness IMO. So glad EE found someone that understands his situation and I am sure will take excellent care of EE and his family as Pattisville will come out guns blazing. MOO

I have had a particular thought since we first learned about EE.

EE spoke informally with LE before FO/MT arrest and then formally on June 2. Then spoke informally again on June 6 at the time of the EE red truck search warrant.

IMO, All Without legal representation, since EE had Nothing to Hide.

We know by June 14, that EE not only had an Attorney, but had a Quality Attorney.

I am thinking that after LE found that EE's red truck was used in the commission of a crime among other evidence found by LE, that perhaps LE explained Everything to EE and Highly Suggested that he obtain Legal Representation Immediately.

Perhaps, LE even assisted in helping EE find Quality Legal Representation and perhaps it is pro bono.

Not because he was in any way culpable, but because LE could see the writing on the wall and that EE was possibly being Set Up or at the very least was going to be alluded to as being a possible suspect by NP/FO.

Guess What?

That is EXACTLY what happened when NP said that EE was a 'Handy Man With Something to Hide' after FO was arrested the second time.

Being represented by an attorney can in no way be construed as being culpable in a crime.

LE most likely expected that EE would be thrown under the bus by NP/FO, and he was.

EE Absolutely Needs to be Protected by Legal Representation against False Allegations made by NP/FO.

Well Played LE and EE.

All IMO.

 

[afitzy]

Thanks for disagreeing agreeably, city girl!
Here's what I struggle with: Why would MT visit Bowman's office before she was ever charged with anything?
I can't wrap my mind around making that appointment.

If you're pure as the driven snow and no one has been accused of a crime, how does a conversation with a defense attorney go?

Somebody help me here!

The Bowman meeting actually made sense and I was surprised she was on the ball and got assistance before her was tossed in jail! My guess is that Mamma A. was behind this proactive move! We don't know how much she told Mamma A.

MT and FD knew that they were being looked at for the disappearance/murder of JD starting the day after JD disappeared IMO which was the 25th.

We don't know exactly what MT has done etc. but so far in my mind it looks like she was 'all in' from the beginning of the murder plot and actively participated in the coverup via the 'alibi scripts' and EE truck games. She knew she was legally at risk so went to Bowman to plan and discuss her options.

I sincerely hope that MT simply received the advice to 'say nothing' and that her atty was not part of any of the subsequent plans that we saw in the 2 months of MT lying to investigators as that would be disasterous to all involved. I also hope that Bowman and his client weren't trying to 'game' the system and simply got caught in their 'games' with LE as LE was meticulous in their follow up on the MT answers given/not given in the 2 meetings before 8/13 IMO.

IMO also there is NO WAY that the most recent charge for MT isn't devastating for MT and Atty Bowman. That MT AW was quite clear in its proof for the additional charges IMO but was also quite clear that NUMEROUS other crimes had been committed by MT FOR WHICH SHE HAS NOT YET BEEN CHARGED. The message to me on the MT AW was that the State was saying to BOWMAN an MT, "Don't you dare waste our time any further and NO MORE LYING". I think I counted at least 3 other crimes that MT could have been charged with that she wasn't charged with in the latest AW. As @MassGuy has said, MT is toast and IMO rightfully so as she is a murderer.

Who knows what was discussed with Bowman early on. It could have been as simple a BS story you have to help us because my boyfriend is being targeted by the NCPD in the disappearance of his STBX and we/I don't know what to do. This BS story probably fell away shortly when the substance of what was going to be charged was known from NCPD. MT would have asked Bowman how to respond to LE questions and whether she should submit for DNA testing voluntarily or wait for warrant.

Most likely Bowman also picked up the phone and called NCPD or perhaps State Police to try and get some info about charges. Then Bowman would have orchestrated the bail hearing and arranged bond. MT had a much smoother bonding process vs FD and this must have been because her family got the money to CT quickly and she had Bowman lined up to assist.

MT also ended up in IMO "Taj Mahal Jail' in NC vs being placed in BPT. IMO she was treated with kid gloves vs FD. I also wonder if the State might have avoided 2 months of lying if they had placed in her BPT and delayed the bail hearing for as long as legally possible? IDK.

MOO

 

[oceancalling]

A couple things I want to put out there (I basically missed this whole thread so not sure if this has been discussed, I apologize).

• As we know, lies sometimes have bits of truth. I'm thinking about the 'shower together' piece of the 'alibi script'. (Note: I can hardly type alibi script without laughing @ Duh?los) Anyway, of course FD had to take a shower after the crime. Where/when did he do that? MT would want to shower too, they have to wash off the blood, after all. A literal blood bath. Did they actually shower together or maybe they showered simultaneously but in different showers? Either way, of course they would shower. I hope and assume LE has checked drains for Jennifer's DNA. Wonder if EE would have noticed if MT's hair was wet. FD's hair (or lack there of) would dry pretty quickly so would be less obvious.

• Also, when EE arrived at 80 Mountain Spring he was told MT and FD were "cleaning" the home. And both MT and FD were standing in the driveway, waiting for EE? This was clearly to prevent EE from entering 80 MS. What was in there they didn't want him to see? JD? The bags?

• I'll betcha there was discussion between MT and FD about murdering EE too. I believe LE that EE had nothing to do with this crime but I also feel EE is lucky to be alive!

• There is another pond just south and connected to the water ski pond. Sconsett pond. I did some googling and found a fishing forum where a guy is talking about this pond. There are some pictures of it. I am not sure I am allowed to link the forum so just google sconsett point avon ct fishing the pictures show a little trail to the pond. To me, this seems like a place FD could have put her remains and a good place to get poison ivy. I know they searched the main waterski pond but I wonder if they checked this area?

There was a discussion early on here about LE's search and discovery of evidence in drains. Some posters believed references in articles about drains related to the search of the drains on Albany Avenue (the altered car tags). Others thought LE was talking about shower drains or other drains at the residences owned by Fore. It was admittedly difficult to sort that question out, because the articles were somewhat vague IMO. It was my impression that blood evidence was discovered in a drain somewhere, but if so, I don't recall it being mentioned in the AW. If there is such evidence, we will be hearing about it at trial. Who knows what else is going out once the search warrants are unsealed.

 

[BellaVita]

I have had a particular thought since we first learned about EE.

EE spoke informally with LE before FO/MT arrest and then formally on June 2. Then spoke informally again on June 6 at the time of the EE red truck search warrant.

IMO, All Without legal representation, since EE had Nothing to Hide.

We know by June 14, that EE not only had an Attorney, but had a Quality Attorney.

I am thinking that after LE found that EE's red truck was used in the commission of a crime among other evidence found by LE, that perhaps LE explained Everything to EE and Highly Suggested that he obtain Legal Representation Immediately.

Perhaps, LE even assisted in helping EE find Quality Legal Representation and perhaps it is pro bono.

Not because he was in any way culpable, but because LE could see the writing on the wall and that EE was possibly being Set Up or at the very least was going to be alluded to as being a possible suspect by NP/FO.

Guess What?

That is EXACTLY what happened when NP said that EE was a 'Handy Man With Something to Hide' after FO was arrested the second time.

Being represented by an attorney can in no way be construed as being culpable in a crime.

LE most likely expected that EE would be thrown under the bus by NP/FO, and he was.

EE Absolutely Needs to be Protected by Legal Representation against False Allegations made by NP/FO.

Well Played LE and EE.

All IMO.

I agree with LE making suggestion to get attorney. Have always thought that if he had approached LE first and voiced his concerns, they would have been very helpful. I wish I had a ton of money. I would find a way to pay for the attorney. Like, IDK, just mail a check and a letter to EE or the attorney.

 

[citygirl]

There was a discussion early on here about LE's search and discovery of evidence in drains. Some posters believed references in articles about drains related to the search of the drains on Albany Avenue (the altered car tags). Others thought LE was talking about shower drains or other drains at the residences owned by Fore. It was admittedly difficult to sort that question out, because the articles were somewhat vague IMO. It was my impression that blood evidence was discovered in a drain somewhere, but if so, I don't recall it being mentioned in the AW. If there is such evidence, we will be hearing about it at trial. Who knows what else is going out once the search warrants are unsealed.

Do you think they will unseal them ?

 

[oceancalling]

I have had a particular thought since we first learned about EE.

EE spoke informally with LE before FO/MT arrest and then formally on June 2. Then spoke informally again on June 6 at the time of the EE red truck search warrant.

IMO, All Without legal representation, since EE had Nothing to Hide.

We know by June 14, that EE not only had an Attorney, but had a Quality Attorney.

I am thinking that after LE found that EE's red truck was used in the commission of a crime among other evidence found by LE, that perhaps LE explained Everything to EE and Highly Suggested that he obtain Legal Representation Immediately.

Perhaps, LE even assisted in helping EE find Quality Legal Representation and perhaps it is pro bono.

Not because he was in any way culpable, but because LE could see the writing on the wall and that EE was possibly being Set Up or at the very least was going to be alluded to as being a possible suspect by NP/FO.

Guess What?

That is EXACTLY what happened when NP said that EE was a 'Handy Man With Something to Hide' after FO was arrested the second time.

Being represented by an attorney can in no way be construed as being culpable in a crime.

LE most likely expected that EE would be thrown under the bus by NP/FO, and he was.

EE Absolutely Needs to be Protected by Legal Representation against False Allegations made by NP/FO.

Well Played LE and EE.

All IMO.

I agree. Exactly what EE feared is what NP is trying to do this man. This is one of the reasons why I refused to jump on that bandwagon. The EE did everything an innocent person does, and he did so as FD repeatedly tried to pull EE into helping FD lie to LE. Hiring a reputable lawyer allowed EE to navigate what was surely an intimidating experience for him. Putting EE in the middle of this and indeed, apparently trying to set EE up for a crime he didn't commit is just a further indicator to me about what reprehensible people FD and MT are. Whatever MT's culpability is determined to be later on, she clearly had no hesitation in helping FD hinder this investigation and it did not seem to faze her that FD was trying to involve an innocent man.

 

[oceancalling]

Do you think they will unseal them ?

Yes, the question is when. There has been one judicial extension of their unsealing. If there is another extension request, I think it is fair to assume there is some aspect of this continuing investigation LE does not yet want publicly disclosed.

 

[Jmoose]

No one is giving this man "a pass" but this criticism is precisely the type of criticism we have seen coming from NP about this man and, by the way, about LE's failure to act "quickly enough". None of us here have any idea what that man was doing in that month other than assisting LE at every turn. The information he has willingly and openly provided helped give LE some of its first significant breaks in this case. There is absolutely no evidence of him withholding evidence or being dishonest.

IMO this is a big fat red herring that we have seen coming from the C Team. IMO this opinion is being advanced by NP in an effort to undermine this witness' credibility at trial and I want no part of it. If LE is satisfied that this man is a significant and helpful witness, that is good enough for me.

I obviously feel strongly about this point because, time and time again in cases such as these, we see good people come forward and do what it right, only to have their own motives and morals questions by forks like NP. It isn't right or fair, but it happens more than it should. Mr. Coangelo and his team would not be calling EE a witness, and an important one at that, if he believed otherwise. I will leave it to the C Team to continue their hatchet job on this man; after all, it would appear FD intended for him to be the fall guy if his Gone Girl narrative fell apart.

OC is right-nobody’s giving EE/PG a pass at all. I mean, I do have some questions that I want answered-like, if he knew enough to hang onto the seats, why not tell LE immediately, and at what point did he realize he needed an expensive white shoe lawyer to look after his best legal interest. And...would he have come forward at all if the police hadn’t found him by accident?

But I believe there are some pretty simple answers to these questions, and maybe we will hear them. By his name, he is Polish, but I don’t think we know yet if he’s an immigrant, legal or otherwise. If he is from another country, especially if he is flying under the radar, I could see why he and his wife struggled with what to do. Someone, somewhere had to have told him to get the best possible lawyer he could find-maybe a lower priced one who practices general law gave him a free consultation, and told him he had better get a really good criminal lawyer. Holding onto the seats was just smart...it might seem to be too smart to some here. But maybe PG is street smart enough to have read FD properly, and knew FD had involved him in his wife’s murder, and wanted an insurance policy. I see why he waited; I just wish he hadn’t.

 

[afitzy]

Thank you @afitzy. This is what I was talking about. Is this a new ruling or something from the past? TIA

@sds71 thanks for posting this new ruling.

@Myvice, I cannot see a hard copy of the order but I can ask Marissa Alter the reporter if she can get and post a copy.

But here is what the website says:

485.00 05/02/2019 D APPLICATION FOR EMERGENCY EX PARTE ORDER OF CUSTODY
RESULT: Denied 5/2/2019 HON DONNA HELLER
485.01 09/05/2019 C ORDER

RESULT: Order 9/5/2019 HON DONNA HELLER

I thought I understood this but I do not. Have to get a copy of the latest 9/5 order. Sorry for any confusion. Will ask Reporter to get a copy of the latest order and try to figure this out.

MOO

 

[Area52]

I think that with the latest warrant, the DA is showing a part of his hand, to force the rest of the story from Ms Trampconis. They are letting her know that they have the goods to charge her with murder, and they want to know where JD's body is. If MT gives that piece up, she can avoid a murder charge. IMO. I think this is the last chance for her to come clean. The DA wants to know where and how JD was discarded, before the murder charge is filed. If she is not forthcoming soon, the DA will charge them both and let a jury decide. I hope she finally gives up what happened. JD's family deserves this, at the very least!

 

[pandaknows]

@thekirbyfamily @HopeForTheBest found the info on the Suburban's. JD Suburban license info is in the FD arrest warrant.

Yes, Item #6 from the first AW dated 6-1-19 references a "2017 Chevrolet Suburban (Connecticut passenger plate AJ69099) registered to the victim, Jennifer Dulos". It occurred to me that LE's work painstakingly reviewing videos of cars was hard, focused and time consuming. Particularly because the ubiquitousness of that type of car and, worse, the prime suspect drives one just like it. LE, great job on meticulous work. I will wait for LE to wrap it all up with a big bow on top. MOO.

 

[Alathea]

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Yes, I believe it was clear that FD drove MT to Westport from Farmington to meet with Atty Bowman. .. Did Atty Bowman in fact meet with BOTH FD and MT or did he just meet with MT?

FD, ultra-controlling as he is, would want to travel with her to make sure she "got the story straight" and practice that story, IMO - whether he went in with her or not. Perhaps, if he did go in with her, Att Bowman said he couldn't represent both of them.

An "early" news video of MT showed her walking out of the Westport police station doorway - after she'd given a video recording for hours - one that probably left us all hopeful she was telling the truth. Here it is:

Exclusive: State's Attorney, Investigators Meet With Woman Charged In Missing Conn. Mom Case

What was interesting to me was how Atty Bowman was talking to her as she walked out the door - and she seemed to basically ignore him, flipping her hair (at least, that's my take on it, perhaps over-reading-into-it?).

EDIT: added link to the video

 

[afitzy]

Hmm. Reading this, compared to my earlier theory that someone helped him AT JD's house (and put her directly into the red truck immediately after killing her, never putting her in the Suburban) - just wondering out loud:

Could he have killed her, left her for minutes in the garage while he drove the Suburban to the park where he either met MT, or he himself drove EE's truck back to her house to pick up her body?

Or maybe that's just thinking too much.

IDK, just thinking of something "quick and easy" to do. Contractors go to the NC Transfer Station all day long. FD owning property in NC would have a NC transfer station ticket. Could he have simply done his evil work with a knife in the Welles garage and placed everything in contractor bags and driven then to the NC transfer station?

Welles to Transfer station is 9 min there and then the drive to Waveny would have been 15 min total trip time..assuming there was traffic on Lapham he has to wait there for awhile to move the rest of his bags...fits with the timeline IMO. IMO this is way risky but it wouldn't be suspicious as contrators and trucks pull up all the time the the transfer station. Perhaps also this is where the doctored plates were used? Usually the attendant just checks the sticker and doesnt' match the plate against the sticker.

Food for thought perhaps? IDK.

Here is the map for consideration:

Google Maps

 

[10ofRods]

@thekirbyfamily , I'm so sorry to hear about your experiences in CT. I've heard things like this before and know other academics who feel bewildered and depressed that they're "stuck" there (and there are other states that are not easy to adapt to, it's not just CT; even university teaching pay is pretty low for the cost of living in many states; once there, it's really hard to get out).

What a world of difference between your life and the lives of the Dulos family. It also puts a new spin on FD's construction choices. And some of his other choices. He must have thought it would be easy to pin Jennifer's disappearance on what is essentially class warfare in CT.

There are parts of L.A. that have the same issues, but CT is so small, really.

 

[oceancalling]

Do you have a link for this? I'd google it, but I can't remember the guy's name.

Their comments were ma

Do you have a link for this? I'd google it, but I can't remember the guy's name.

It was part of the HLN story and I think on one of the local news station. Both wife and lawyer were interviewed. I am going the rabbit hole to view that story again in light of what we have been discussing. I bet there is a bunch of info I missed.

Update: I have located the attorney's statement but not the wife's. Lawyer is quoted about how upset EE was to be dragged into this and how he quit immediately when he put the pieces together. Going back to June, though, it is clear EE did come forward quickly.

I am going to spend a few hours looking at some of the news stories this afternoon as I won't have much free time beginning tomorrow. I know LE will get their man, but it is admittedly difficult to not try to figure this one out. I'll post later today if I find anything that might be of interest to people here!

 

[Alathea]

@afitzy - something happened to me today kinda crazy! I went this evening (around 5:00 PM EST) to try and look at that barn structure again and decided I would go and take a picture of the entrance to 585 DC for you. I was on Old Mountain Road, slowing down to turn onto Ely Road, and had just put my left hand blinker on. Right at that moment two huge, huge, huge Uhaul trucks (they must have been the biggest trucks they have) came flying down Ely Road, making a very slight effort to attempt to slow down, before gasing it again as they turned to the left in front of me on Old Mountain Road. I slammed on my breaks briefly and thought to myself "Wow, they must be in a hurry" before I saw what was coming next. Booking it at a feverish pace behind the Uhaul trucks was a black Suburban!!! It had very dark tinted windows so I couldn't see who was driving and it was moving so fast I couldn't make out the license plate, except for the fact it was one of the "special" license plates we have here in CT and possibly had one letter and two numbers. Directly behind the black Suburban was a white SUV, moving at an equally fast pace. It looked like an Escalade because it had lots of shiny chrome on it or even a Chrysler Aspen, but it was going so fast I couldn't tell what make it was. Keep in mind this about a 1/4 mile from 4JC.

Oh yes, and here is the picture of 585 DC, haha

I HOPE someone reported this to the police. (??) It is highly unlikely MT had that much stuff to move out. A vanity (personalized) plate could be 3 digits - anyone with a few extra $$ can get one in CT.

 

[sleuth66]

Cannot disagree with you at all. But why did she lie? All lies have some reason behind them. Did she do it for herself or did she do it for FO or for some reason we don't yet understand?

I've just been fixated on the idea of trying to understand why MT has been behaving as she has!

We know she is a well established and practiced liar. I'm just trying to figure out why?

Most people don't lie to lie (some do but the research says not so many pathological liars out there).

I've come full circle on the MT issue as I can only conclude that she was an integral member of the FO + HO team and the reason she most likely lied to Atty Bowman and LE was because she couldn't figure out a way to 'come clean' without admitting to murder. I think its the premeditated aspect of the murder that now seems to be clearer and MT role in the overall murder that was simply overwhelming for MT to deal with. Don't get me wrong. I don't think she feels remorse and I don't think she feels anything at all. I think she is emotionally wired just like FD and they were two peas in a pod that planned and executed a murder plot plain and simple.

The 2+ month lying period was just MT getting to the point where she might just possibly admit her role and was working to get the best deal possible from the State IMO. Its quite stunning to be an outsider in all this because what it looks like is that MT at the core is a coward that not only couldn't fess up publicly but couldn't fess up internally to herself as to being a murderer. I wonder if MT has taken responsibility for much in her life ever and does she care about anyone other than herself? I seriously doubt it and I hope that she is punished severely!

If she just started talking on 8/13 then this process is ongoing and new and most likely no deal exists. IMO MT is going to prison, the issue is just for how long and for which charges.

MOO MOO

Here is what I think IMO is going on with MT and her lies. Basically I agree with @afitzy that the reason for the lies is that she’s trying to avoid incriminating herself for murder, and she’s playing cat and mouse here as LE pulls out more evidence on her, she’s giving just the minimum she has to.

MT first interview was on 6/2 in NC jail the day after she and FD were arrested. MT was no doubt in terrible shape since LE arrived at Residence Inn around 11:30pm on the 1st and then MT was driven down to NC and booked in, and then I’m sure nice and comfy in her bed in the jail. I’m sure she was in great form the next day.
Nonetheless it appears that in the interview with Bowman present on 6/2 she just repeated the alibi script. LE didn’t have the alibi script yet (according to AW they picked that up on 6/3) but they had enough evidence to see through her alibis and story that it was inconsistent. (I guess MT should have kept the script in her pocket at all times to refer to, in her state that day she probably flubbed some of the details. Even if she got it spot on it was obviously a crappy alibi plan anyway).
I’m sure Bowman had been privy to some of the alibi details based on her meeting with him earlier in the week, but I imagine he was not impressed by the terrible performance with LE poking holes in her story that day at the jail.

On 6/3 according to the AW, LE finds the alibi script at 4JC. This triggers them to get MT back in for more questioning. In the meantime MT has bailed out and no doubt Bowman is trying to get MT to clean up her act, and to tell the truth to LE, or at least to him! Bowman is also likely educating MT on the severity of the consequences she’s facing.

So MT and Bowman do the 2nd interview with LE on 6/6, this is the one that was highly publicized in MSM. According to AW, at this second interview MT comes clean that she can’t alibi FD between 8am and 1pm. Apparently though (Deducing from times in AW) she still sticks to the shower scene in this interview, happening between 6:40am and 8am (presumably when she left to take her daughter to school. School starts at 8:15 and it’s 20 minute drive.) she’s also shown the alibi notes in this interview and admits to writing them out.
Does Bowman believe at this time that MT is lying? Clearly MT has ponied up a lot more at this point, and Bowman had likely made the stakes clear to her. But her performance in this interview also sounds quite miserable from the AW, given that she tells LE the alibi script was just to help them “remember” what they had done. Later LE can poke holes in the alibi script.

In the meantime, Bowman advises MT to stay away from FD (possible that family members of FD and MT were ferrying info and plans to patch up the alibi and stay consistent) and petitions to send her out of state to NY. As we saw this didn’t work out and she was back in CT out and about socializing.

By the 3rd interview on 8/13, LE has figured out the red truck involvement and also likely has the whole afternoon timeline based on MT phone records, AW states that FD called MT to bring the red truck keys back to EE that afternoon, etc. And LE have her movements on video and phone records of the car wash and bank withdrawal.
At this point, Bowman likely instructs MT it’s her last chance and she has to admit she was lying before. She does that and comes clean (sorry for the terrible irresistible pun) about not actually lathering up with FD that morning (I know, ew!!) and about the urgent need to haul out garbage bags and rags to clean a coffee spill off EEs filthy beater truck seat before anyone can get the holiday weekend started (sorry EE, but you yourself said you rarely clean your 18 year old truck).
But MTs still hedging around in this 3rd interview and being “coy” as someone generously put it previously, about why they went to clean the truck and whether she followed FD there or he just phoned her up out of the blue to come get him- this is where she’s still lying to cover up her own role in it. She knew full well why the truck was being cleaned and was full well involved in taking it to the car wash and paying for it, and it wasn’t to get that coffee spill out. (A $250 coffee spill, huh?).

Given this consistent lying through all these interviews, to LE and almost certainly to Bowman as well, IMO MT knew about the plan to get rid of JD and knew what had happened that day. Her continued reticence to be truthful and up front regarding the evidence LE does have and show her indicates she still has something to hide. IMO Bowman has a tough job and MT is making it even tougher. MOO.

MOO on everything here.

 

[afitzy]

Here is the article that was deleted: Legal expert: Prosecution telling Fotis Dulos ‘we’re coming after you’

I'm curious @Chessman what 'message' you thought was delivered to Pattisville and Atty Bowman via the 2 latest warrants?
Lots of POV here and just curious about your POV from where you sit?

Lots going on so hope you can help us understand it all better!

MOO