Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #22

[MassGuy]

I can't get out of my head what JF said about FD's sick revenge fantasies. Given that we believe this was a premeditated murder, what revenge fantasy (if any) did he engage in here? This was his opportunity to get back at both JF and her mom for the misery he felt they were inflicting upon him (as well as to punish JF for daring to disobey and leave him) and while time constraints might have limited his options, I have this nagging feeling that somewhere - either in the act itself or afterwards (where he put her) - his revenge fantasy was played out. MOO.

Sneaking into her house and stabbing her to death, would meet the definition of a “revenge fantasy.”

Just imagine. She’s already on edge, fearing that this guy is going to come after her. She’s going about her daily routine, and pulls into the garage at her huge, deserted house. She steps out of her car, and sees the man of her nightmares wielding a knife.

In his eyes, he would have achieved his goal. Not only did he kill her, but he would have seen the terror on her face.

She knew what was happening to her, and was powerless to stop it.

Eventually, she’ll get her revenge too. His world is crashing down around him, and he knows it.

It’s all downhill from here.

 

[afitzy]

Another summary article from the day by the SA - FD just, "waiting for JD to show up".

Jennifer Dulos disappearance: Fotis Dulos ‘hoping she’s going to show up’

 

[afitzy]

Sneaking into her house and stabbing her to death, would meet the definition of a “revenge fantasy.”

Just imagine. She’s already on edge, fearing that this guy is going to come after her. She’s going about her daily routine, and pulls into the garage at her huge, deserted house. She steps out of her car, and sees the man of her nightmares wielding a knife.

In his eyes, he would have achieved his goal. Not only did he kill her, but he would have seen the terror on her face.

She knew what was happening to her, and was powerless to stop it.

Eventually, she’ll get her revenge too. His world is crashing down around him, and he knows it.

It’s all downhill from here.

YES!

FD statement on Dateline about, "my life is a mess right now", was probably the first truth he has spoken since this tragic case began IMO.

MOO

 

[Twistinginthewind]

I can see this idea playing out in a number of ways.

We heard in Family Court that FD was incensed by JD claims that NC was for whatever reason superior to Farmington.

Could this drive him to put her body in Farmington just to be perverse or would he do the opposite and bury her in an unknown location in NC?

I always wondered about the Pound Ridge GF house that was sold over the past few months where FD built a guest house. It appears this house and the adjoining lake were cleared by LE but would FD have placed the body at this location?

Originally I thought the water ski pond or that area would be perfect for revenge fantasy as FD loved it and JD was 'meh' about it! But it looks like this was cleared by LE as well so IDK.

Whatever he did I would guess it to be hate driven and perhaps some place he knew she hated.

MOO

I know what you're getting at and agree @afitzy. There are too many options. MOO is that he buried her under water because she didn't share his obsession with waterskiing, and a body disposed in water is harder to find than on land, and CT and other Southern NE territory is more water than land. Neighboring Massachusetts alone has over 4,000 waterway dams, and CT is even closer to the LI Sound, and has thousands of miles of wetlands, rivers, brooks, creeks, ponds, etc.

IMO, FD killed his wife, put her body in a weighted down container, and dropped it into a water body (quiescent or fast moving, there are thousands of miles of waterways in Southern New England), him knowing her body 'would never be found', which is why I think he always seems to have a grin on his face, telling us he thinks he planned 'the perfect murder'.

But no no, fo fo, Jennifer is going to be found. Bet on it like your life depends on it.

MOO

 

[1&2&3]

As has been said in many instances before,a narcissistic person thinks he is God and no one can compare or compete with his/her knowledge!

IMO, MT was under FD’s spell of charm, charisma, living style, and money so badly, she was unable to make her own decisions. She was in a trance like state.

When everything came down regarding Jennifer’s disappearance, this trance like state of doing and following whatever FD suggested, dramatically landed her in a “what have I done and where is my prince” state.

FD had led and guided her for what two years? And now, all of a sudden, he was separated from her? She is wondering how or why she is accused in the two arrests?
However, the main problem with MT is the withdrawal from the trance she has been in over her love connection with FD. Getting out of a relationship with a psychopath narcissistic is horrible by itself. You don’t know who you are! But facing charges relating to a missing person must add enormous tolls already to a low bewildered MT. I am not on her side. Just trying to point out what she may be going through. Yes, I imagine she is medicated. She is going thru an extremely difficult time.she probably doesn’t know which end is up.

Hopefully the time will come when she can come to her senses to realize what is best for her, notkeep holding onto what she should do for FD! That relationship and those dreams for the future are forever gone. FD has nonething to give her to help her live or to continue in her life. MT it’s time to look ahead for you and your daughter. Praying you can escape jail time.

 

[HopeForTheBest]

I think FD grilled EE about the route he took back north because, he himself disposed of her body on his own way back north and wanted to see if EE's information coincided with his. One more step to implicating EE so he would take the blame.

I thought about this today (yesterday, Tuesday—) but no time to post and probably someone already has said this but in case not...I kept thinking FD was asking EE if he’d seen anything because he thought EE might have seen him or his vehicle there. Today I thought about the language and wording, and now think that FD might have been wondering if EE had seen police cars or searchers there. If he had concerns about that along that particular route, maybe that is where FD left JD’s body or other evidence. MOO.

 

[MemPat]

What interviews are a few of you referencing? They sound like must see TV. I can't find them

At the beginning of the thread you should be able to pull up photos of MT in the courtroom after the arrests.

You can easily see the dead eyes there.

 

[HopeForTheBest]

or a water ski bag? do they make those?

Well, there was that black ski thing on the top of FD’s SUV that we sleuthed out but that really is such a hard link to FD if it were found that we decided probably not. MOO.

 

[1&2&3]

Can GF claim the other FORE homes on the market since they were built with borrowed Farber money? Get FD’s name completely off the building loan or what needs tobe done. If the houses has Farber money in them. Isn’t it smarter for GF to take them all back so FD doesn’t try to do something nasty to them? Can she call in loan , FD can’t pay, so the house revert back in her name? Then, ole FD has No legal dealings or reasons to be around the homes to perhaps do damage to them.

 

[oc1234]

At the beginning of the thread you should be able to pull up photos of MT in the courtroom after the arrests.

You can easily see the dead eyes there.

Ah OK, I thought I missed some video. Thank you!

 

[MemPat]

Nah, he wasn't fooling anyone, IMO, and did this interview on MSM in the midst of a serious investigation of him for his wife's murder 'against counsel' just like other men who murdered their wives... he (and other men like this, Scott Peterson comes to mind) wasn't 'winning' anything at all... it's just their vain attempt to try to absolve themselves 'in the media' by trying to continue on to 'work' that they are so 'charming', and 'successful' and 'good looking' and 'just a normal man' who 'women love', thinking they can win people over... They are 'play actors', nothing more, so hollow, IMO.

Foley DooDoo is stepping in his own doodoo, just like other killers who enjoy the limelight of a near and dear person they used to be with's demise putting them in the news. It's grotesque and gross to see that he's obviously enjoying the show (his demeanor is like a child who got into the cookie jar). The attention is on him, as he thinks it should be, but Foley DooDoo, it is not because you're in the least worthy, but for the most depraved, cruel, misogynistic, matricidal, kind of crime anyone would not want to imagine putting their loved ones through. The joke's on you, Doo Doo. Moo Moo.

Foley DooDoo may win the name prize!

Please tell me someone has kept a running list as we're going to need to mail it to FDD!

 

[MemPat]

Ah OK, I thought I missed some video. Thank you!

There's video there.

 

[HopeForTheBest]

So at 2 doors, wouldn't it be awkward to shove
or push a body into the back area? Maybe not.
Wonder how much room there actually is?

I’ve had a truck like that, and it’s not as hard to get back there or put things back there as you might think. You move the seats forward and fold down the front seat a bit and voila. MOO.

 

[HopeForTheBest]

Yeah, maybe you’re right. That would show up with underwater sonar. I was thinking it would be self contained, kinda air tight to prevent odors, sort of like a coffin if it could be buried somewhere.
Just thinkin’.

We talked a lot about a 55-gallon drum like they use to dispose of soil, water, etc. if it’s come in contact with petroleum products or other contaminants. Reasonably common in construction and very sturdy as required. MOO.

 

[HopeForTheBest]

Poster above states truck is 2 door and verified as such thru VIN. Interesting.

Or blood from bags like later out into trash cans? No idea. MOO. I will say that because that type of extended cab truck has only the two doors, we often knelt on the front seats to put or remove things from the back. Maybe helpful or not. MOO.

 

[MemPat]

As has been said in many instances before,a narcissistic person thinks he is God and no one can compare or compete with his/her knowledge!

IMO, MT was under FD’s spell of charm, charisma, living style, and money so badly, she was unable to make her own decisions. She was in a trance like state.

When everything came down regarding Jennifer’s disappearance, this trance like state of doing and following whatever FD suggested, dramatically landed her in a “what have I done and where is my prince” state.

FD had led and guided her for what two years? And now, all of a sudden, he was separated from her? She is wondering how or why she is accused in the two arrests?
However, the main problem with MT is the withdrawal from the trance she has been in over her love connection with FD. Getting out of a relationship with a psychopath narcissistic is horrible by itself. You don’t know who you are! But facing charges relating to a missing person must add enormous tolls already to a low bewildered MT. I am not on her side. Just trying to point out what she may be going through. Yes, I imagine she is medicated. She is going thru an extremely difficult time.she probably doesn’t know which end is up.

Hopefully the time will come when she can come to her senses to realize what is best for her, notkeep holding onto what she should do for FD! That relationship and those dreams for the future are forever gone. FD has nonething to give her to help her live or to continue in her life. MT it’s time to look ahead for you and your daughter. Praying you can escape jail time.

I'm not one who believes MT was a sweet, innocent soul sucked in by the wiles of FD.

I believe she too was a grifter who came by that genetically from her mother who stole bundles of money from US citizens.....Super Grifter!

FD is certainly the narcissist in this relationship but MT is no fairytale princess carried off by the wolf.

They shared the intention to take Jennifer's trust fund by having her declared an unfit mother and, I believe shared in the planning and execution of her "disappearance".

If she maneuvers a beauty of a deal by testifying and shakes off this crime, she will still be a grifter and should have a warning tattooed on her forehead.

The child support she gets for her daughter only lasts maybe four more years and she is going to be digging for dollars!

 

[HopeForTheBest]

I’ve had a truck like that, and it’s not as hard to get back there or put things back there as you might think. You move the seats forward and fold down the front seat a bit and voila. MOO.

It’s been a while since I had that truck but sat here thinking and besides kids even up to teenagers and agile adults, I often filled that back seat and floor with bags like from the grocery store, boxes and presents to take on a trip, carseats, pet carriers, and all kinds of things. Not much leg room but you could lie down on the seat back there if you wanted. Hope this helps. MOO.

 

[LittleBitty]

Ok so I combined AW 1 and Aw 2.
I did a timeline earlier with the Toyota Tacoma movements on 5/24. I am adding what EE told LE which was backed up by the Raptor internal system/EE’s cellular data. I am adding what I believe MT told LE as well. Because at least one or two things have been confirmed to be true and fit with this timeline even though she is a lying liar who lies. This is about the 5/24 timeline and finding Jennifer if that’s even possible so her family can have a burial. And JD can have Justice and her children peace.

MAY 24th———————————————————
1. 6:36 am Toyota Tacoma passes Fairfield rest area
2. 6:40 am MT tells LE she awakens and there is no FD. This was the 8/13 interview. And the third interview. Previously she told LE in the first interview that she and FD showered together. Something which was in the script LE found and what MT later admitted was a a mistake.
MT tells investigators that FDs phone his main cell for business/personal is at 4Jax where the Fore Group office is.
3. 7:03 am Tacoma seen parked at Lapham Road turnout
4. 7:40 am Tacoma seen parked at Lapham Road turnout
5. 7:57 am Tacoma seen parked at Lapham Road turnout. It must be mentioned the spot is approximately 100 feet from where JDs Chevy Suburban will be found abandoned that evening.
6. 8:05 am JD Suburban seen on Welles Lane arriving home. FD believed to be lying in wait. Last known image of JD.
7. 9:30 am EE arrives at 61 Sturbridge Hill Road in FD’s Raptor. EE’s cellular Data and Raptor data confirm this and also confirm EE was at EE’s residence prior to this. Not at Welles Lane where FD was.
8. 10:25 am JD Suburban and her phone on the move down Welles Lane to Lapham Rd.

(LE believes the crime and cleanup occurred between 8:05 am and 10:25 am)

9. 11:12 am Tacoma spotted at NC rest area.
10. 11:25 am Tacoma at Fairfield rest area.
11. 11:40 am Tacoma at Route 8 Derby
12. 12:00 noon Tacoma on Interstate 84
13. 12:22 pm Tacoma at 80 Mountain Spring. MT tells LE she had a quick 15 minute lunch with FD when he arrived sometime between 12 and 1:30 and they didn’t discuss JD and she didn’t ask what he’d been up to. (Yeah right! Says Little Bitty; that’s some bull patties right there).
14. FD phone leaves 4 Jax and arrives at 1:37 pm on 80 Mountain Spring Road. (Little Bitty believes MT is bring her lovah his phone.)
15. 2:15 pm FD texts EE to ask when EE is going to come to the office at 4Jax and EE says 4:30pm
16. FD phone remains at 80 Mountain Spring until 3:38 pm which is over two hours since it arrived at 1:37. At some Point FD is cleaning the Raptor seats with paper towels and MT tells LE he told her it was spilt coffee and she says towel didn’t smell like coffee but couldn’t recall color of stain and said placed in a black bag. Bags FD asked her to bring to 80 Mountain Spring.
17. 4:17 pm FD phone leaves 80 Mountain Spring and goes to 4Jax.
18. 4:30 pmEE arrives at 4 Jax and no one is there and his Tacoma keys aren’t there. Drives short distance to 80 Mountain Spring and encounter MT and FD standing in driveway and they say they’d been cleaning that house. EE and FD begin driving other vehicles back to 4Jax (I take this to mean construction vehicles or that they are moving them off the 80 Mountain Spring property). EE sees that his Tacoma is there and that the keys are on door to it. MT stays behind. Once finished shuttling cars around EE returns to 80 Mountain Spring Road and finds keys are gone and MT gone. FD offers for EE to take Raptor and EE declines and asks FD to get MT to return with his keys and she does and EE leaves.
Car shuttling or whatever (how it’s described in AW anyway) occurs between 4:34 pm and whenever EE leaves.
19. 5:21 pm FD phone pings at 80 Mountain Spring.
20. 5:34 pm FD phone back at 4Jax.
22. 6:59 pm JD friends report JD missing. NCPD arrive at 69 Welles Lane (JD residence) and knock and no answer. Are provided with entry by nanny. See blood in garage. Call crime scene guys.
22. 7:10 pm: the Raptor, MT and FD and their phones are on Albany Avenue in Hartford on their trashbin odyssey of stupidity.
23. 7:00’ish JD vehicle found.
24. 7:30 ish Silver Alert for JD
25. 7:41 pm Raptor and MT and FD leave Hartford along with their stupid phones
26. 8:10 pm Raptor returns to 4Jax and male seen wearing same clothing as on Albany Avenue and resembling FD gets out of Raptor and checks mail and then gets in Raptor and drives further onto property down driveway.

It’s pretty damning y’all.
I am convinced her body made it to 80 Mountain Spring based on the timeline.

What do y’all think? Does having it all together help or make it worse? Or like should both FD and MT plead guilty and stop wasting tax payers money? Yep they should.

 

[MemPat]

We talked a lot about a 55-gallon drum like they use to dispose of soil, water, etc. if it’s come in contact with petroleum products or other contaminants. Reasonably common in construction and very sturdy as required. MOO.

Like Drew Peterson used for his last wife. Never found though.
Thank goodness LE went back and got him for the second wife and he's in prison forevah!

 

[MemPat]

Ok so I combined AW 1 and Aw 2.
I did a timeline earlier with the Toyota Tacoma movements on 5/24. I am adding what EE told LE which was backed up by the Raptor internal system/EE’s cellular data. I am adding what I believe MT told LE as well. Because at least one or two things have been confirmed to be true and fit with this timeline even though she is a lying liar who lies. This is about the 5/24 timeline and finding Jennifer if that’s even possible so her family can have a burial. And JD can have Justice and her children peace.

MAY 24th———————————————————
1. 6:36 am Toyota Tacoma passes Fairfield rest area
2. 6:40 am MT tells LE she awakens and there is no FD. This was the 8/13 interview. And the third interview. Previously she told LE in the first interview that she and FD showered together. Something which was in the script LE found and what MT later admitted was a a mistake.
MT tells investigators that FDs phone his main cell for business/personal is at 4Jax where the Fore Group office is.
3. 7:03 am Tacoma seen parked at Lapham Road turnout
4. 7:40 am Tacoma seen parked at Lapham Road turnout
5. 7:57 am Tacoma seen parked at Lapham Road turnout. It must be mentioned the spot is approximately 100 feet from where JDs Chevy Suburban will be found abandoned that evening.
6. 8:05 am JD Suburban seen on Welles Lane arriving home. FD believed to be lying in wait. Last known image of JD.
7. 9:30 am EE arrives at 61 Sturbridge Hill Road in FD’s Raptor. EE’s cellular Data and Raptor data confirm this and also confirm EE was at EE’s residence prior to this. Not at Welles Lane where FD was.
8. 10:25 am JD Suburban and her phone on the move down Welles Lane to Lapham Rd.

(LE believes the crime and cleanup occurred between 8:05 am and 10:25 am)

9. 11:12 am Tacoma spotted at NC rest area.
10. 11:25 am Tacoma at Fairfield rest area.
11. 11:40 am Tacoma at Route 8 Derby
12. 12:00 noon Tacoma on Interstate 84
13. 12:22 pm Tacoma at 80 Mountain Spring. MT tells LE she had a quick 15 minute lunch with FD when he arrived sometime between 12 and 1:30 and they didn’t discuss JD and she didn’t ask what he’d been up to. (Yeah right! Says Little Bitty; that’s some bull patties right there).
14. FD phone leaves 4 Jax and arrives at 1:37 pm on 80 Mountain Spring Road. (Little Bitty believes MT is bring her lovah his phone.)
15. 2:15 pm FD texts EE to ask when EE is going to come to the office at 4Jax and EE says 4:30pm
16. FD phone remains at 80 Mountain Spring until 3:38 pm which is over two hours since it arrived at 1:37. At some Point FD is cleaning the Raptor seats with paper towels and MT tells LE he told her it was spilt coffee and she says towel didn’t smell like coffee but couldn’t recall color of stain and said placed in a black bag. Bags FD asked her to bring to 80 Mountain Spring.
17. 4:17 pm FD phone leaves 80 Mountain Spring and goes to 4Jax.
18. 4:30 pmEE arrives at 4 Jax and no one is there and his Tacoma keys aren’t there. Drives short distance to 80 Mountain Spring and encounter MT and FD standing in driveway and they say they’d been cleaning that house. EE and FD begin driving other vehicles back to 4Jax (I take this to mean construction vehicles or that they are moving them off the 80 Mountain Spring property). EE sees that his Tacoma is there and that the keys are on door to it. MT stays behind. Once finished shuttling cars around EE returns to 80 Mountain Spring Road and finds keys are gone and MT gone. FD offers for EE to take Raptor and EE declines and asks FD to get MT to return with his keys and she does and EE leaves.
Car shuttling or whatever (how it’s described in AW anyway) occurs between 4:34 pm and whenever EE leaves.
19. 5:21 pm FD phone pings at 80 Mountain Spring.
20. 5:34 pm FD phone back at 4Jax.
22. 6:59 pm JD friends report JD missing. NCPD arrive at 69 Welles Lane (JD residence) and knock and no answer. Are provided with entry by nanny. See blood in garage. Call crime scene guys.
22. 7:10 pm: the Raptor, MT and FD and their phones are on Albany Avenue in Hartford on their trashbin odyssey of stupidity.
23. 7:00’ish JD vehicle found.
24. 7:30 ish Silver Alert for JD
25. 7:41 pm Raptor and MT and FD leave Hartford along with their stupid phones
26. 8:10 pm Raptor returns to 4Jax and male seen wearing same clothing as on Albany Avenue and resembling FD gets out of Raptor and checks mail and then gets in Raptor and drives further onto property down driveway.

It’s pretty damning y’all.
I am convinced her body made it to 80 Mountain Spring based on the timeline.

What do y’all think? Does having it all together help or make it worse? Or like should both FD and MT plead guilty and stop wasting tax payers money? Yep they should.

Yep and this is amazing! You and Afitzy should get a WS award!