Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #27

[MDATCA]

Where is MT a socialite? Socialite wannabe? She seems to be a “groupie” following the members of a band.

She is like the new kid who moved in the middle of the year in middle school.

 

[afitzy]

I was thinking how odd it was that Attorney Bowman broke his silence to make that statement about presumed innocence and how upset MT was that day. He never usually does that, I’ve read, so why? Then I thought maybe it was to NP because I can’t think he’d want to call NP as that would likely be a nightmarish conversation. Maybe he learned NP/FD were trying to blame MT only; I can’t think of much else except FD blaming her that seems likely to upset MT given what apparently hasn’t bothered her at all. MOO.

Interesting idea. IMO the reason both Atty B and MT were so upset the day they went to Troop G is that I really believe MT didn't think LE would drop the second AW on her.

I wonder very much is she is simply disconnected from the reality of the situation in which she finds herself?

When we read AW2 it is quite clear that MT is only marginally working with LE to answer only questions associated with pictures shown to her.

Mmmm.

Perhaps MT thinks this is cooperating with LE? IDK. But if she does think this is cooperation with LE then there will be a very long and painful road filled with many more charges in her future IMO.

There just seems to be a huge disconnect present between the horror of what might have happened to JD and what MT was sharing with LE at the time of AW2. The gap was big and perhaps LE felt the only way to 'wake up MT' was to file more charges and keep on doing so until the situation changed? IDK.

As we left things with MT in AW2 it looks like over a month has passed and maybe things have changed. For some reason I don't think so as MT looked stressed and frankly awful at the Civil Case deposition the other day. I do wonder if MT will ever help LE? I do believe though that FD and Atty P. (who has no case IMO) won't hesitate for a nanosecond to throw MT under the bus in criminal court. Actually writing the script for 'throwing MT under the bus' is probably the easiest script the Pattisville could write IMO and certainly easier that 'Gone Girl' or "Revenge Suicide"!

If MT appears possibly depressed and unstable now and is still flashing 2 finger signs of solidarity can you imagine her mental state when Pattisville throws her onto the fire as a sacrifice to save FD? By the time this happens though it might just be too late for MT. Right now she is looking at possibly 10 yrs in prison but the last AW2 indicated based on the descriptions of what was going on that at least 3 other serious charges could be stacked to possibly give her at least 8 or more years.

IDK what is going on with MT and who is advising her at all. I'm not sure her situation is one where silence will save her. I do wonder how long Atty B will last in the current scenario as it doesn't look like things are proceeding along the lines of what he most likely was attempting to accomplish for MT. Just wonder if he will 'cut her loose'?

I do have to admit to wondering about the folks that think its a 'wild speculation' to believe that MT involvement is greater than originally believed. I actually believe the reverse, that the longer it appears MT isn't working with the state or cooperating in civil court, the more believable it becomes to suspect that her involvement surpasses anything we might have originally believed.

IDK. Will just keep watching this play out but it seems like MT is deeply involved in this tragic JD situation and FORE financial meltdown. I just hope the State and Federal authorities are watching the Civil Case closely and that FORE and all its employees are fully investigated.

PS We haven't seen GV mentioned in Civil Court yet but we know that he was deposed in Family Court. Wonder if he took the 5th just like Sue Morin from Farmington Bank (now Peoples Bank)?

MOO

 

[afitzy]

There’s that dashing Olympic skier thing again. Daily Mail loves this kind of reporting.
MT is clearly attracted to dark haired, foreign men with athletic abilities.
Stop, you all from laughing about their skills elsewhere.
Remember she spent time in Dubai, at horse facilities. Middle East is full of dark haired men. Equestrian facilities falls under sporting category. Doubtful she was interested in a stable boy. More likely the horse owners intrigued her.
We can’t sleuth dashing skier or second hubby unless already on MSM. Were either of these two guys married to another person while Romancing the Stone?
It baffles me why Argentinian skier hasn’t filed for custody of his daughter. Blurry pic of daughter with dad in car look like a happy pair.
MT is a threat to the safety of her daughter.

Absolutely agree with you and I'm baffled why daughters father hasn't stepped up for full custody given the situation of MT and the longer term outlook for her time in prison too.

MT husband 2 was contacted by the DM but would not comment. MT was herself married at the time she started the alleged affair with FD in Miami. My guess is that husband 2 would have some interesting information to share about what exactly was going on in 2016/17 with MT and FD. Wonder if we will see him deposed in any of the litigation?

MOO

 

[afitzy]

One thing I noticed was that during FD interviews, he uses the word “enamored” about MT. Notice he does not say love. I would say that their relationship was in honeymoon phase. He found someone who “needs” him- translation - enhances his self-esteem, and she found someone who showered her with attention that she craves. Like the article says, it’s a fast falling, idealistic, superficial relationship. They both feel they’ve met their “dream’ mate. One problem- he’s married. They both don’t want to give up the relationship because it fulfills each of their needs. Enter the the other problem- FD can’t let JD go because she is his meal ticket. Instead of taking responsibility, he wants it all so he can’t do the right thing and divorce. You notice the lies he told in the tv interview early on, he said the marriage didn’t work out quite nonchalantly, that’s true it didn’t BUT what he didn’t say was that HE wanted to keep the relationship. JD wanted to move on but HE didn’t. However, that’s not what he wants the public to believe. There are many signs that he didn’t want to let her go- not letting her move out, telling her that they will all live together(with paramour), stalling the divorce proceedings using all kinds of tactics. He wasn’t amicably letting JD go. BUT, he didn’t want to give up MT either because she feeds his self esteem. In his mind he HAD and deserved to have it all. So now JD is taking away his meal and life ticket, he is ANGRY at her so devises a ‘revenge fantasy’ because that’s the way his mind works as we heard from JD herself during the divorce proceedings. That is the motive and he had the anger to devise and complete it, how dare JD take his privileged, beautiful life away. He told us with his own mouth- he had a beautiful life. But what he defines , in his mind, as a beautiful life is different than what most of us do. Normal people would say a beautiful life was family, children, good fami,y, friends but HIS beautiful life was getting his self esteem fed via his relationship with MT and his lifestyle fed via JD’s money. He told us the motive- to keep his beautiful life. But he lied when he said he wanted the divorce over. He didn’t. The longer it stalled, the more he kept his beautiful life. When the courts started closing in on him, making him responsible for child support, insurance, finances, appropriate child visitation, he went through with his revenge fantasy. Follow the money. He doesn’t love MT so she better realize this and come clean . She was just a pawn to feed his self esteem and he will let her go in a flash when she no longer fills that job. Yes, he had the motive and anger to plan and complete it. The question is did she.

Perfect!

I think that MT might have just been a 'placeholder' and 'pawn' in the FD revenge fantasy about JD and the Farber family, it was an 'added bonus' that MT fit the psychological 'mold' to make FD 'feel good'!

Its actually quite a 'trick' IMO to make someone with all the obvious 'flaws' of FD feel good about themselves so MT must have done a good job reading FD IMO.

But thinking about all this gets me thinking about MT too. Is she just an empty 'shell' of a person who is simply out searching for the next 'high' of adrenaline? No morals, ethics or personal standards of conduct? Is she just someone who is ok with, "whatever works or whatever she can get away with"? To me, this sounds like a perfect partner in crime as they will never be the one to stop the forward progress of the 'revenge fantasy'!

The fact that MD didn't seem to have any moral compass either probably made her job a lot easier too IMO! At a very basic level this all just seems like 2 despicable people intent on living the easy life and no thought was given to anything that stood in their way, even the six children present in the situation.

MOO

 

[waldojabba]

Just some musings on a Sunday while my household gets ready for a day of football:


I grew up in NC K-12 not far from JFD. As a child, those woods by her house were my woods. We used to call the area our

“magic kingdom”.


Sad for me to think that my “magic kingdom” will always be associated with evil now. Foremost though, I mourn for a life lost senselessly. I want this case solved and the monster(s)who committed this to be locked away.


There is a poster here ( sorry not to recall which one) who thinks JFD’s body will be found in those woods and part of me agrees.


A long time has passed since I played in those woods, but back then those woods were full of poison ivy. IMO FD spent a lot of time creeping thru those woods. He had plenty of time to prepare a burial spot.


IMO FD killed JFD. Narcissists in my experience can come to a boiling point very quickly when they perceive

“disrespect” and when they feel they are backed into a corner. To him I believe the final “disrespect” came that Wed night at Welles Lane, when he was not allowed into the house.


FD was running out of court filings to delay turning over info on his finances. Totally backed into a corner. Lots of rage boiling

just below the surface. Narcissists always think they are the victim. He felt it was all JFD’s fault..


IMO there are no quick books/ organized accounting. Just FD spending money helter skelter. I believe he has a disorganized mind. His lifestyle of expensive restaurants, lots of travel, skiing – water and snow – all very expensive hobbies. Money went to the sister, the “admiral” and their daughters. IMO the sister has always been his most important relationship. Hence the name of the company. If you live a big lifestyle money does not last.



I think MT is a combination of a lot of things others have written. For sure, she is involved in the

cover up. The rest I don’t know.


IMO it is tough to put a label on MT and paint her or most, with a broad brush. To me, most people are not black and white. IMO people that do bad things are rarely all bad. And people that do good things are rarely all good. IMO People are a lot more complex than that. FD is my exception here so far. He is bad. He is not capable of love, empathy or good intentions for anyone but himself.


All the events that we believe MT to be involved in, definitely point to a lack of good character/ lack of morals and ethics as well as very low emotional intelligence.


Why hasn’t MT come clean? If I try and put myself in her shoes( yes the five inch heels from Jimmy Chou ), I would say she has not come clean simply because it appears to be not in her best interest to say much, until all the charges are on the table.


Selfish strategy? IMO very hard to have an expectation otherwise. Very unattractive to me and all of us as posters

Not what any of us think we would do –


I expect none of use will ever find ourselves in this situation. I struggle if this were my loved one/child/friend,

to understand how I would advise her. IMO, if we are honest, I suppose none of us will ever truly know unless we are actually in that situation. Concept vs reality – sometimes two very different things IME.


The longer she can drag this out the longer she remains free (albeit stuck in CT). Seems she has chosen to roll the dice. She appears uninterested in doing the right thing and speaking up yet for JFD and JFD’s family etc –. Once all charges are in place /somewhere down the road, hopefully she will find it in her best interest to tell what she knows. I am not sure her lawyer
is advising her any differently.
IDK what will unfold. What I do know, is that more will be revealed and my opinions will remain fluid.

 

[Morgan10028]

Bizarre that on the Friday night before Memorial Day there would be such a frenzy of after-school events. Most schools, IME, let out early because many families are heading out of town. Do you have a calendar link?

Yep, here you go...Calendars - Ethel Walker School
If it doesn't take you directly to May 2019, just click the arrows on the upper left to navigate. **EDIT**click the ALL SCHOOL CALENDAR tab

And I agree that the activities on a Holiday weekend are bizarre, though keep in mind how many international and boarding students attend EW.

PS. I knew about the calendar for this school year, though I didn't think to look back to May 2019 until I saw the post saying that all of MT's timeline had already been filled in, which brought me back to the OP (figured out that probably meant original post?).

 

[Morgan10028]

Can anyone refresh my memory? What was the story about FD and cars from Greece or sending cars to Greece? THAT was sketchy....IMO, of course!

Here you go...it was on the 8/20/19 transcripts attached to one of Weinstein's motions. He sent his cars from Greece to NJ. Is this what you were thinking?

 

[afitzy]

Just some musings on a Sunday while my household gets ready for a day of football:


I grew up in NC K-12 not far from JFD. As a child, those woods by her house were my woods. We used to call the area our

“magic kingdom”.


Sad for me to think that my “magic kingdom” will always be associated with evil now. Foremost though, I mourn for a life lost senselessly. I want this case solved and the monster(s)who committed this to be locked away.


There is a poster here ( sorry not to recall which one) who thinks JFD’s body will be found in those woods and part of me agrees.


A long time has passed since I played in those woods, but back then those woods were full of poison ivy. IMO FD spent a lot of time creeping thru those woods. He had plenty of time to prepare a burial spot.


IMO FD killed JFD. Narcissists in my experience can come to a boiling point very quickly when they perceive

“disrespect” and when they feel they are backed into a corner. To him I believe the final “disrespect” came that Wed night at Welles Lane, when he was not allowed into the house.


FD was running out of court filings to delay turning over info on his finances. Totally backed into a corner. Lots of rage boiling

just below the surface. Narcissists always think they are the victim. He felt it was all JFD’s fault..


IMO there are no quick books/ organized accounting. Just FD spending money helter skelter. I believe he has a disorganized mind. His lifestyle of expensive restaurants, lots of travel, skiing – water and snow – all very expensive hobbies. Money went to the sister, the “admiral” and their daughters. IMO the sister has always been his most important relationship. Hence the name of the company. If you live a big lifestyle money does not last.



I think MT is a combination of a lot of things others have written. For sure, she is involved in the

cover up. The rest I don’t know.


IMO it is tough to put a label on MT and paint her or most, with a broad brush. To me, most people are not black and white. IMO people that do bad things are rarely all bad. And people that do good things are rarely all good. IMO People are a lot more complex than that. FD is my exception here so far. He is bad. He is not capable of love, empathy or good intentions for anyone but himself.


All the events that we believe MT to be involved in, definitely point to a lack of good character/ lack of morals and ethics as well as very low emotional intelligence.


Why hasn’t MT come clean? If I try and put myself in her shoes( yes the five inch heels from Jimmy Chou ), I would say she has not come clean simply because it appears to be not in her best interest to say much, until all the charges are on the table.


Selfish strategy? IMO very hard to have an expectation otherwise. Very unattractive to me and all of us as posters

Not what any of us think we would do –


I expect none of use will ever find ourselves in this situation. I struggle if this were my loved one/child/friend,

to understand how I would advise her. IMO, if we are honest, I suppose none of us will ever truly know unless we are actually in that situation. Concept vs reality – sometimes two very different things IME.


The longer she can drag this out the longer she remains free (albeit stuck in CT). Seems she has chosen to roll the dice. She appears uninterested in doing the right thing and speaking up yet for JFD and JFD’s family etc –. Once all charges are in place /somewhere down the road, hopefully she will find it in her best interest to tell what she knows. I am not sure her lawyer
is advising her any differently.
IDK what will unfold. What I do know, is that more will be revealed and my opinions will remain fluid.

Thought provoking analysis and ideas for consideration!

I hope that Welles had camera coverage to see is your woods idea plays out in one way or another.

Do you see it possible to have cut through those woods from the direction of the Winter Club? The Grey Hughes video had FD lying in wait at the back of the garage area near the back yard. If FD didn't want to approach from the front of Welles he had to have come from the rear or side somehow IMO.

Do you see those woods being accessible even though over the years houses have been built?

I'm with you 100% on fluid opinions but I guess where I am tripping up on MT is that if she had an easy clean out it would have made sense to work that angle prior to now. From the outside looking at her situation it seems that instead of working to free herself from the situation that she has instead sunk deeper and deeper into the legal muck and then when Atty B started talking about additional criminal charges possibly arising out of Civil Court testimony, IMO it just seemed like MT is in legal quicksand and is looking at potentially many many years behind bars! And we haven't even really discussed the potential for any civil charges being filed by GF either!

Messy legal situation but I'm not sure waiting makes things any easier. IDK.

 

[NWLady]

Something I had thought about - I'm not saying this is my belief of what happened - but rather it is an option/possible theory I have thought about. Did FD possibly injure JD while she was still in her Suburban after pulling in the garage and then he removed her body from the driver's seat which then left blood on the garage floor etc and then loaded her body in the back of her Suburban (hence, the large mat in the back cargo area was the mat that has been talked about) and then took JD's body somewhere in her own vehicle to dispose of her and then drove her Suburban back to Waveny Park and then got in the Toyota and left? But then this theory gets confusing too as to why then was there blood in the Toyota? Could the blood in the Toyota be from bloody clothing items, the mops, sponges, etc (the things that were possibly disposed of in the trash dump)?? Which would make sense to me as I still think it would be somewhat difficult to put JD's body in the back seat of the Toyota, so maybe the blood was not from the body, but was from the clean up at the scene, the mat from the Suburban, etc?? JMO

 

[afitzy]

Another good article IMO by Michael Dinan about MT:
State Police: Girlfriend Also Charged with Tampering in Jennifer Dulos Case

 

[LosAngeles]

That's what tends to happen with a gag order.
NP kept us chatting.
Now, we sit and wait.
Is it Oct 16 the search warrants may be released?

I believe the next pre-trial hearing for FD is this Friday, 10.4; the next pre-trial hearing for MT is the following Thursday, 10.10 and the search warrants are scheduled to be released on Wednesday, 10.16.

Fingers crossed for answers in honor of Jennifer & her 5 precious children.

 

[Deleted member 229974]

That's what tends to happen with a gag order.
NP kept us chatting.
Now, we sit and wait.
Is it Oct 16 the search warrants may be released?

Perhaps people just needs a little down time until there is either a big break in the case or until the next hearing.

 

[Deleted member 229974]

Excitement and attention seeking behaviors

And I think being with FD makes her feel validated.

 

[NWLady]

Another good article IMO by Michael Dinan about MT:
State Police: Girlfriend Also Charged with Tampering in Jennifer Dulos Case

Thanks for this article link! It was a good refresher! From the link above, interestingly, in there is where MT talks about the car wash, the article says (BBM and underlined by me) "During a May 29 interview with detectives, she claimed Fotis Dulos had told her the Tacoma’s owner—Pawel Gumienny, a project manager for Fotis Dulos’s building company, The Fore Group—wanted to sell the pickup truck.

“For this reason, Dulos had planned to bring the Toyota to have it cleaned and detailed,” Kimball said in his affidavit. “Troconis claimed, ‘Fotis at some point calls me says … pick me up at the car wash in the parking lot and so I went to pick him up and then we went … to meet with Andy (attorney Andrew Bowman) and we drove.’ Troconis made it sound as if she had no idea what [Fotis] Dulos was doing and that she had simply been called by Dulos to come pick him up. Only through pointed questioning did Troconis admit she had followed [Fotis] Dulos to Russell Speeders Car Wash in Avon where she waited in the parking lot for him to emerge from the lobby before the two drove to Westport to meet with Attorney Bowman.”

Later that day, at 1:39 p.m., Troconis told detectives, she received a phone call from the car wash saying the car was ready, and she “appeared ‘confused’ as to why she was receiving an unexpected call from the car wash,” Kimball said in the affidavit.

“Troconis offered, ‘… after meeting with Andy [Bowman] we drove back to Farmington … he [Fotis Dulos] stops at the bank … and then back to the car wash that I drop him off to pick up the car and then I drove back home or went to pick up N***** … that’s … but I mean .. that car, he washed the car,’

Kimball added, “Troconis reported placing the paper towel ‘in … ah … in one of the black bags.’ ”

As it happened, Gumienny had insisted on taking the Toyota and Troconis was called by [Fotis] Dulos and she returned with the Toyota keys. It was the following week that [Fotis] Dulos and Troconis took the Toyota to be cleaned and detailed without Gumienny’s knowledge or permission.”

It wasn’t until an Aug. 13 interview with police, more than two months after her initial arrest, that Troconis changed parts of her story, according to Kimball’s affidavit.

Also, Kimball said in the affidavit, “Troconis claimed she was ‘mistaken’ when she reported that she and [Fotis] Dulos had shared a shower on the morning of 5/24/19. This initial claim was inaccurate, despite the fact that it appeared on the ‘script’ prepared by Dulos and perpetuated by Troconis in her first interview.”

The “script” refers to what appears to be another bit of misdirection from Troconis, according to the arrest warrant application.

The two pages which Troconis admitted having written included a page of phone activities including call times, durations, whether the calls where incoming or outgoing, and the individual called. Troconis admitted to having authored another page which listed specific activities and their times starting at 6:40 AM until 5:10 PM.

Both notes included information, which was subsequently proven to be inaccurate, events which Troconis was forced to admit during questioning had never happened, and they included alibi witnesses who were later determined to be false.”
________________________________________________________

I don't know about anybody else, but I know for me, those statements above, especially the underlined statements, do 100% show that MT was involved in this up to her eyeballs and also proves to me she was in this all along just like FD was! And how anybody can doubt the level or her involvement is beyond me and these statements are said to have come from Detective Kimball so IMO they are not considered hearsay and therefore IMO are proof enough to me that she was definitely involved and I would think would be sufficient to show no doubt that yes, she was involved and was not an innocent bystander and yada yada. It appears she got caught in several lies and ONLY upon further questioning, was she then forced to tell a different story.

JMO

 

[Mimi in London]

Thank you for the map of Silver Spring Rd and Browns Reservoir. Few locals know about it. I went to Browns Reservoir yesterday using WAZE. No way that traffic could ever be so bad that I would ever be diverted to South Salem NY trying to get to 61 Sturbridge Hill. Exits 35, 36 and 37 off the Merritt were driven in an effort to figure out what makes most sense driving out of 69 Welles Ln with a bloody body to dispose of within a 13 minute radius. I believe a transfer of blood soaked mat/carpet at the Lapham turnout would have been extremely risky. Lots of joggers and dog walkers. Common to pull over and park at Lapham. No one would notice a red truck facing the wrong way, anytime of the day. Joggers on trail can see you parked across the road though. Way too risky. FD would have never risked getting out of red truck to jog around Waveny with JD's cellphone and risk being seen anywhere near the murder scene. IMO, a transfer was done at Browns Reservoir, the one spot where GPS does NOT work. It is desolate there and no signs leading up to the dirt path to get to the drinking water, which is fenced. Can drive to Exit 37, 61 Sturbridge Hill and 69 Welles Ln within 13 minutes. MOO.

This sounds like a really plausible scenario. Thank you for driving the routes and sharing this.

 

[Tink56]

Here you go...it was on the 8/20/19 transcripts attached to one of Weinstein's motions. He sent his cars from Greece to NJ. Is this what you were thinking?

Many, many thanks for this!!

Wouldn't it be nice to know what car this is....if it was sold in the U.S...what other real property he "had" in Greece. FD is like slippery eel who's poisonous. (Wonder how much it costs to ship a car to the U.S.?

 

[Outforjustice]

Fo wanted to be the Heidi Fleiss of Connecticut. What better way to get the property seized by the government and mess over GF. Maybe as a extra security he could have put a meth lab in. I would not be shocked.

I think Fore group was a money laundering operation for either drug money or some other dirty money. He probably had a number of "investors".

I do not think that the amount that he got from the F family would not have been enough to tun the fake business, sustain his

MT's pattern to me is she's always been looking for exciting (bad boys) men who smell
of a little money or a lot of money.
She's an opportunist who places herself amongst these types socially and worms her way into their lives.
When she lived in S. Florida she was in the middle of thousands of these type men. The
largest snow ski organization in the US is headquartered there. It's a very socially oriented club- for people with money and a desire to party hardy. Drugs are rampant.
It's a loose way of life she's lived. Very loose.

If you believe her resume she worked/played
at the Olympic skiier's resort for several years.
So she was probably co-mingling with him for
that time. He may very well be a playboy type
who has no interest in getting custody of a young daughter. That can be a pain for an active party guy.
MT is a worn out party groupie. She's over the hill, too old to be a player in her old circles.
And here she finds herself needing to be rescued by mommy and daddy and no Mr. Money Bags in the wings. Life is not looking so
good for Michy. Not so good at all.

I’d Love to know how MT and FD met and where ..

 

[Outforjustice]

Yep, here you go...Calendars - Ethel Walker School
If it doesn't take you directly to May 2019, just click the arrows on the upper left to navigate. **EDIT**click the ALL SCHOOL CALENDAR tab

And I agree that the activities on a Holiday weekend are bizarre, though keep in mind how many international and boarding students attend EW.

PS. I knew about the calendar for this school year, though I didn't think to look back to May 2019 until I saw the post saying that all of MT's timeline had already been filled in, which brought me back to the OP (figured out that probably meant original post?).

Love to know who paid MT’s daughter's Ethel Walker tuition .......
# sketch

 

[citygirl]

I believe the next pre-trial hearing for FD is this Friday, 10.4; the next pre-trial hearing for MT is the following Thursday, 10.10 and the search warrants are scheduled to be released on Wednesday, 10.16.

Fingers crossed for answers in honor of Jennifer & her 5 precious children.

Thanks.The pretrial hearings always seem to be a bust.
Holding out for 10/16/19.
MOO.

 

[citygirl]

Perhaps people just needs a little down time until there is either a big break in the case or until the next hearing.

My post was in response to the OP talking about how the board has slowed down and that may alert us that the case has gone cold.
IMO, no one on here welcomes a down time. LOL.
MOO.