Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #30

[BellaVita]

FD heads to job site in EE truck. Put his tool kit together and walks back way to ambush JFD. Starts walking 6:30-7:00. MT drives to job site straight from house. Arrives 8:15-8:30. Switches vehicles. Takes EE truck to Wav Park.

FD takes JFD body and bloody mess in her Suburban to Wav Park where MT helps shift body and bloody mess to EE truck. Suburban stays at Wav Park.
All 3 go back to job site in EE truck before 9:30 EE arrival from Hartford. MT picks up her vehicle. FD keeps driving EE truck with JFD body wherever he’s taking her.

Feel free to add from that time. MT states she saw FD at noon? So they had 2.5 hours to dispose of body.

Friday no kid no school run. If dropped off kid, left school 8:15, drives to work swaps vehicle still time to get to Wav Park, move body, back to work site before 9:30 arrival. Coast was clear.

RSBM for focus:
1. AW2 states EE truck seen by bus cam at 7:40, already parked at Lapham Rd. The AW states it is believed the actual arrival of the truck is much closer to 7:05 which is when a bus cam got a photo of the empty spot where the truck would eventually be parked. . This is due to the fact of the NC rest station being just a few minutes away. It is believed FD got to WL via Weed St and Indian Waters Dr. A local or two stated most likely. The satellite pic below, JD house has black dot, shows the wooded area behind her house.

2. Neither FD nor MT could arrive to Sturbridge before 9:30. The Suburban was seen on cam leaving WL at 10:25.
3. Toyota tracking going back to Farmington is for some reason much more detailed than the trip to New Canaan. Arrival to 80MS was at 12:22.
4. Google maps shows 12 minutes from WL to Lapham to NC rest station. AW says Toyota passed rest station at 11:12. That is 47 minutes from the time of Suburban leaving WL. 35 minutes longer than it should have been. Even if you give FD 15 minutes fiddling around at WP, what happened with the other 20 minutes? This is the part of the journey where JD could have been disposed of, IMO. Somewhere between WL at 10:25 and NC rest station at 11:12. Could have been done using either Suburban before parking it or using truck afterwards. IDK. Seems less risky not bringing a body to the park and transferring out in the open like that. Large suitcase would solve issue. Or something similar. Most important point here, to me, is that there is 35 minute time gap.
5. Screenshot below of possible route from WL to Lapham:

There are lakes and rivers back there. Maybe because FD didn't plan on blood, he didn't have a good way to dispose of the sponges, mops right then. Too easy to find or might be spotted floating in water. AND, IMO, this was supposed to be disappearance, not murder.
5. Why the 2 hours 20 minutes at WL? That's a looong time. Below is better satellite with foliage coverage:

I have wondered if FD could have taken her out that way to the river. I don't know if that area has foot traffic or is isolated. It's only about 1200 feet from the back of WL.
6. Interesting that AW2 begins the journey of the Toyota starting at Fairfield rest area at 6:36. Then NC rest station at 7:03. NOT anywhere near Farmington area. I looked at the map to see if the truck might have been parked at Sturbridge overnight but Fairfield rest stop is 35 minutes in the opposite direction so I can rule that. IMO.
AW2 link:
READ THE ARREST WARRANT: Husband of missing mom Jennifer Dulos charged with tampering with evidence
I'm not committed to any of these ideas.

 

[afitzy]

It is possible that the Judge who caught the infraction, 'allowed' NP to Report himself. NP may have realized that by Reporting himself, it would go a long way in gaining an advantage in any discipline metered out, than if the original Judge Reported NP.

I don't think so. Atty. P. reportedly self reported after the Judge had reported the situation. Would have to go to the paperwork filed to double check the exact timing. But I very much credit the Judge in the case for filing the report against Atty. P.

Unfortunately we haven't seen a Judge willing to have the courage to do this to Atty. P. so far in recent times. So far as I am aware, Judge Heller in FC DID NOT report Atty. P. for the psych report situation and Judge Blawie DID NOT report Atty. P. for the gag order infractions.

Someone earlier today asked what it might take to change the situation in CT Courts and IMO Judges hold the keys to the situation as IMO if they don't step up and demand that basic rules of law, decorum and respect of the judiciary exists from attorneys practicing in CT, then zero will change.

Atty. P. seems to consistently believe and operate under the principle that 'rules are for other people' and even on something so simple as his 'gag order' appeal page limit of 40 pages, he had to go 45 page which was clearly over the limit. Why? IMO he did it because he could and it was a pure ego/vanity play. My guess is that as we have seen in his prior poorly crafted motions we will see the same paragraphs rehashed over and over again. If there is anyone that should be kept to a page limit my guess is that Atty. P. should as he is as undisciplined in his writing as he is in speaking to the press and victim shaming/blaming JF.

MOO

 

[joypath]

Sleuth, I have always thought she was in the bed of the truck. There was much discussion about that and the majority felt she was placed in the front due to blood evidence and not taking the chance that she may be seen.
I hope they are able to enhance those videos, too.
What is your take on why the files have been sealed for another 90 days?
Are they garnering new leads or still wading through all the info they have had?
MOO.

Imo & from prior cases, BOTH actions (garnering & wading) are going on. Again I remind folks that "tossing" a ~120 lb dead body is NOT for neophytes. Just the condition(s) that a DB can be in, no matter what the COD might be, can be/are "mind-blowing"/jolting to the senses of the uninformed. Placing her body in/on the front seat would be tedious, driving with it "seatbelted" would still be a challenge as without muscle tension, the body would "slip & slide", "shift & jolt"!

 

[BellaVita]

Sleuth, I have always thought she was in the bed of the truck. There was much discussion about that and the majority felt she was placed in the front due to blood evidence and not taking the chance that she may be seen.
I hope they are able to enhance those videos, too.
What is your take on why the files have been sealed for another 90 days?
Are they garnering new leads or still wading through all the info they have had?
MOO.

I also thought she would be in the bed. Easier clean-up. JMO.
ETA: IF she made it to the truck. I'm not convinced.

 

[pernickety]

Yes and no IMO.

Yes it was procedural and the POA was present BUT the signature was in fact forged by Atty. P as I understand the statement of facts.

Again, we see Atty. P. 'in a hurry' to avoid some calamity or someone coming after him (think it was both in this case if I recall the facts) and so corners are cut and yet again we see the law broken. IMO he should have waited for Jones signature. Our system is based on a personal signature having value and in this case there was no value on the signature because it was forged. If someone is willing to sign another persons name then what else won't they hesitate to do on behalf of a client? IDK about you but this is something that does concern me greatly and I do think it ought to concern the CT State Bar and the Judges looking at what Atty. P. actually did in this case. Do we have an example of a an atty with 'no boundaries' legal or otherwise? IDK, certainly seems this way to me as even a 5 yo. realises what they are doing when they are asked to 'sign' their homework before submitting it to teacher!

IMO Atty. P. was just rolling the dice and hoping not to be caught out. Instead we FINALLY see a Judge checking things out and dotting i's and crossing t's and low and behold calls out the 'shortcutting' and IMO 'half assed' paperwork processing by Atty. P. I do believe he self reported after the fact so perhaps this might help him. But, I do have to question ANY PERSON LET ALONE AN OFFICER OF THE COURT, FORGING A SIGNATURE.

IMO any Judge letting this issue go on forging a signature on a legal document submitted to court by an Officer of the Court such as Atty. P. and not issuing a punishment is simply opening pandoras box to other people forging signatures on legal documents and coming up with lame excuses as to why it was done but its ok etc.

IMO the entire situation was irresponsible and very poor judgement on the part of Atty. P. and I hope the Judges will agree and punish him severely and quickly.

MOO

A person who has a POA signs for the grantor, but with the POA's own name and "POA" under it. The document granting the poa should have been annexed to determine if signing an affidavit for the grantor was included in the powers given and under what circumstances, e.g., disability of the grantor to sign for himself. From what I've heard of the SGC hearing, someone who was identified by only initials signed the affidavit with Alex Jones' name. Pattis attested to the oath as "Commissioner of the Superior Court" (like "Notary Public", but done by a lawyer--with duty toward the Superior Court). At the hearing CDC made a point of this--that Pattis signed as CSC under "Before me appeared Alex Jones...etc." when in fact NP was in CT and Jones was in Texas at the time. None of these circumstances were disclosed to the court. I agree with the judge that it was not a "procedural error" but fraud on the court. NP was represented at the SGC hearing by Mark Dubois, former Chief Disciplinary Counsel, who is now in private practice. He argued an amanuensis defense (someone who is authorized to sign another's name with consent). But as the present CDC argued, that was the law in TX, but the deed was done here in CT, which has no amanuensis law. Don't know whether this was mentioned at the hearing, but in CT fabricating a document in an official proceeding in an attempt to deceive the presiding authority is a felony. MOO

 

[Megnut]

I read about a case of basically a bar fight gone bad. Boyfriend beats guy who hit on his girlfriend. Boyfriend and girlfriend drive away with beaten guy in the back of their truck. She later testifies he was alive...and gurgling. She testifies that bf drops her off at home and that's the last she sees or hears. In time the charred remains of the beaten guy are found in a firepit on her property. Tragic story, with elements we see in other high profile, horrid cases.

Fact is, LE might know, MT might know, FD does know, but WE don't know where the MURDER occurred. Or when.

Do we know WHEN the Suburban got parked? We know when it was FOUND.... buses weren't running all day long..... is it possible FD retained access to Jennifer's Suburban longer than we've considered?

Maybe he met up with the driver of the Tacoma, positioned to wait for him. Transferred bags to the Tacoma.... would he have had time to drive somewhere in the Suburban and rendezvous a SECOND time at the park, later in the morning/day?

I have to hope that LE knows what vehicles were in play that day and who was visible on camera driving them. I sure wish we did.

MOO MOO MOO

 

[sds71]

trustees v. HVAC
111.00 10/25/2019 P MOTION FOR DEFAULT FOR FAILURE TO DISCLOSE DEFENSE

No
112.00 10/25/2019 D DISCLOSURE OF NO DEFENSE

 

[BellaVita]

Do we know WHEN the Suburban got parked? We know when it was FOUND.... buses weren't running all day long..... is it possible FD retained access to Jennifer's Suburban longer than we've considered?
MOO MOO MOO

We know the Suburban left WL at 10:25.
We know the Toyota was seen at NC rest stop at 11:12
We know it is approximately 12 minutes from WL to WP to NC rest stop.
There is a 35 minute gap there which is unexplained. I don't believe FD spent 35 extra minutes at WP. Seems there was a detour of sorts along the way. JMO.

 

[pernickety]

Maybe it takes another member of Ct. Bar to inquire and get inside info. Is there a site that
the public can see to inquire of such proceedings? I can understand if there's no decision on the hearing yet, but IF he's actually
penalized it should eventually be searchable,
I would think.

Google Statewide Grievance Committee decisions 2019 - Pattis Though I think if the Reviewing Cmte of the SGC (3 members?) comes in with a decision NP doesn't like, NP cd then ask that the full SGC review the reviewing comte's decision.

 

[pernickety]

bbm
Good point, and it's entirely possible the same is happening with FD - that he too is being paid by the State of CT! Disgusting, no?

I'm thinking that way too. The way Judge Noble "contradicted" himself (as the SA said) in his 2 opinions re whether the discovery on how legal bills were being paid had to be provided. First he says yes, then he grants NP's motion to quash. Got to wonder if he's not only protecting NP but also the Chief Public Defender's office, bc if a retainer agreement between NP and FD doesn't exist, that might point to state paying NP's fees--in violation of the statutes if no contract exists between NP and state. MOO

 

[hivee]

Attorney for Jennifer Dulos’ mother: Troconis making a ‘mockery’ of deposition

 

[CTGrammy]

There is time for MT to make it down to NC even if she dropped off at school, just not in the timeframe that AW2 lists for the red truck. So if she dropped off at school she wasn't in the red truck to get there. She could make it down to NC in time to meet at Waveny by 10- 10:25 when JDs Suburban went from Welles to Waveny.

Also just to point out, the EE work site at Sturbridge isn't accessible by woods to JDs Welles Lane. It is clear across town about 3 miles away. That would have put FD on some major roads with exposure and schoolbus cams, taken quite some time and energy, and risked EE arriving at any minute, thus seems unlikely they used the EE worksite as a staging ground. Red Tacoma was spotted on bus cam at Waveny as well.

I still think it is possible that FD drove the body out to Silver Spring Rd or another remote area in the 47 minutes between leaving Welles and the timepoint in the red truck at the NC rest area on the Merritt. MT could have possibly been in on that part of the day.

It is also possible that LE has been able to enhance the images of the red truck along the way back to Farmington, even the images in the AW2 blurry as they were suggested that something lumpy was in the bed of the red truck. If they've been able to enhance these and figure out what it was- it looked like it could have been a bike or a body- that will be an important piece of information.

In Addition, LE has JF’s Suburban going Straight to Waveny, because her Cell Phone was pinging Straight to Waveny from 69WL after the Suburban was seen on the neighbor's video surveillance leaving 69WL at 10:25 am that morning.

So, any detour, took place During the Unaccounted for time After the arrival at Waveny Park and Before EE's red truck is caught by the CCTV on the Merritt.

It takes about 8 minutes to travel from 69WL to the spot on Lapham at Waveney Park. That puts the time at 10:33 am. Then EE's red truck is pictured on CCTV on the Merritt at 11:12 am, which takes 4 minutes to travel from Lapham at Waveney Park.

This cuts FD's 'Available' time to 39 minutes in which he must dispose of JD's phone, transfer everything to EE's red truck, and take steps to 'clean' JF's Suburban from any blood, debris, finger prints, and all the while, trying Not to be seen, etc. This would take 10 minutes at minimum, and that puts the 'Available' time for a detour to 29 minutes and still make it to the New Canaan Rest Area on the Merritt by 11:12 am.

So. What did FD do during the 29 'Available' minutes? IMO, more time was spent at Waveny Park, which would then lower the 'Available' time even more. IMO, FD had to spend extra time on the transfer. I would think that he would wait for any vehicle on Lapham to pass before transferring JF, so as not to draw attention. Lapham can be busy at times and this would seem logical to me. IMO, JF's cell phone went pinging Into the park and this is denoted by the detailed search performed in Waveny, especially the lake and it's surroundings.

IMO, FD wanted to get out of NC as Quickly as possible and not take the chance of anyone identifying him or getting caught on CCTV or home surveillance systems, in NC that day. Waveny Park/Lapham road is immediately off the Merritt and very close to 69WL and therefore his chosen location.

IMO. I do not think FD took a detour in NC that day, but If he did, he only had 29 'Available' minutes.

IMO.

 

[BellaVita]

I still think it is possible that FD drove the body out to Silver Spring Rd or another remote area in the 47 minutes between leaving Welles and the timepoint in the red truck at the NC rest area on the Merritt. MT could have possibly been in on that part of the day.

I've looked at a bunch of options for the Silver Spring idea. The timeline for that is VERY tight. And it looks like Silver Spring is one of those roads that is very convoluted but everything I saw was same 48ish minutes to make it to NC rest stop. Can you post what route you are looking at.

 

[sds71]

NEW: Attorney for Fotis Dulos Norm Pattis has filed a 40-page brief asking the CT Supreme Court to revoke the gag order issued by the superior court judge on Sept. 12. Here’s the summary of his argument.
The State has fanned public speculation that Mr. Dulos killed his wife, but has not charged him with any crime in which his wife is a victim,” Pattis writes in the brief.
@News12CT

 

[Jmoose]

i believe the bank and carwash were the following Wednesday in the next week.
Someone correct me if this is wrong.

Nope, that’s correct.

 

[SkylarSid]

Imo & from prior cases, BOTH actions (garnering & wading) are going on. Again I remind folks that "tossing" a ~120 lb dead body is NOT for neophytes. Just the condition(s) that a DB can be in, no matter what the COD might be, can be/are "mind-blowing"/jolting to the senses of the uninformed. Placing her body in/on the front seat would be tedious, driving with it "seatbelted" would still be a challenge as without muscle tension, the body would "slip & slide", "shift & jolt"!

Maybe she was still somewhat alive at that point....

 

[sds71]

Attorney for Fotis Dulos files Supreme Court brief arguing gag order violates his right to defend himself

In a 40-page brief filed to the state Supreme Court, attorney Norm Pattis compares Dulos to Sam Sheppard -- the Ohio doctor charged with murdering his wife in the 1950s who was exonerated years later -- and accuses Superior Court Judge John Blawie of issuing what may be a first-of-its-kind gag order in the country.
Pattis argued that the order by Blawie is broad. He says it bars not only the attorneys from talking to the media but also bars Dulos, state police and any potential witness from speaking, and violates Dulos’ First Amendment right to free speech and his Sixth Amendment right to a fair trial.
The State has fanned public speculation that Mr. Dulos killed his wife, but has not charged him with any crime in which his wife is a victim,” Pattis wrote. “The trial court has barred Mr. Dulos from speaking out about charges
The crimes Mr. Dulos has been charged with are offenses against the administration of justice - his wife is neither a victim, a party, nor a foreseeable witness,” Pattis wrote. “Yet in its warrants the state has all but called him a murderer. Does he truly possess no right to defend himself against these accusations?”
not even lodged, an order breathtaking in scope
andabsolutely devastating in its impact.
wrote.
Pattis said that the judge failed to conduct a meaningful hearing to determine if there was any negative impact from all of the press coverage before issuing the gag order. Pattis said Dulos, like defendant Sheppard from the infamous “The Fugitive” case, endures a “circus atmosphere” at pre-trial hearings that will likely get worse when the case goes to trial. The case has received widespread media attention since Farber Dulos disappeared on May 24

Pattis argues that in the Dulos case, it’s even more unfair because Dulos hasn’t been charged with murder.

 

[sds71]

Pattis also questions the timing of the gag order. It was issued on the same day that Dulos was arraigned in Norwalk Superior Court for the second set of charges without ever holding a hearing on his reasoning for issuing it.
“The trial court here abdicated its responsibility to make any factual record on the potential prejudicial impact of pre-trial publicity, relying instead on phantoms,” Pattis wrote. “The court did not hold hearings of any type to address the overwhelmingly prejudicial impact of the second warrant, a warrant the judge himself was full well aware of us as he signed it, presumably while working on his gag order ruling.”

The last time that Dulos appeared before Blawie earlier this month the judge angrily denied Pattis’ allegation that he hadn’t had a proper hearing before issuing the gag order.

Pattis said by issuing the gag order right at the time of the second arrest Blawie ignored “the substantial prejudice to the defendant caused by the State’s warrants filed in June, and, especially in September.” Pattis also said that Blawie failed to take into account that Connecticut has individual sequestered voir dire where attorney’s are allowed to probe potential juror sonhow much they know about the case.

Pattis also argued that Blawie never consulted with Dulos - the only party with a constitutional right to a fair trial. He said that Blawie should have asked Dulos whether he understood that exercising First Amendment right might, conceivably and somehow, undermine his fair trial right.

“Such a canvass would have provided Mr. Dulos the right to assert which right be was prepared to weigh more heavily in the balance. On the facts the circumstances of this case, the trial court’s paternalism – striking the balance for Mr. Dulos – is obscene, tying Mr. Dulos to the whipping post of public speculation,” Pattis said.

 

[BellaVita]

In Addition, LE has JF’s Suburban going Straight to Waveny, because her Cell Phone was pinging Straight to Waveny from 69WL after the Suburban was seen on the neighbor's video surveillance leaving 69WL at 10:25 am that morning.

So, any detour, took place During the Unaccounted for time After the arrival at Waveny Park and Before EE's red truck is caught by the CCTV on the Merritt.

It takes about 8 minutes to travel from 69WL to the spot on Lapham at Waveney Park. That puts the time at 10:33 am. Then EE's red truck is pictured on CCTV on the Merritt at 11:12 am, which takes 4 minutes to travel from Lapham at Waveney Park.

This cuts FD's 'Available' time to 39 minutes in which he must dispose of JD's phone, transfer everything to EE's red truck, and take steps to 'clean' JF's Suburban from any blood, debris, finger prints, and all the while, trying Not to be seen, etc. This would take 10 minutes at minimum, and that puts the 'Available' time for a detour to 29 minutes and still make it to the New Canaan Rest Area on the Merritt by 11:12 am.

So. What did FD do during the 29 'Available' minutes? IMO, more time was spent at Waveny Park, which would then lower the 'Available' time even more. IMO, FD had to spend extra time on the transfer. I would think that he would wait for any vehicle on Lapham to pass before transferring JF, so as not to draw attention. Lapham can be busy at times and this would seem logical to me. IMO, JF's cell phone went pinging Into the park and this is denoted by the detailed search performed in Waveny, especially the lake and it's surroundings.

IMO, FD wanted to get out of NC as Quickly as possible and not take the chance of anyone identifying him or getting caught on CCTV or home surveillance systems, in NC that day. Waveny Park/Lapham road is immediately off the Merritt and very close to 69WL and therefore his chosen location.

IMO. I do not think FD took a detour in NC that day, but If he did, he only had 29 'Available' minutes.

IMO.

Responding to BBM:
1. There was nothing in the AW that says phone pinged "straight to Waveny". It's very vague. No time frame or route given. The info in the AW clearly leaves an open question as to when the time gap occurred. IMO.
2. Seems FD would have cleaned most forensic evidence at WL. JMO. Don't know how much time he'd want to spend in the vicinity of a body at Lapham.
You could very well be right on every count. I'm not committed to any single theory. I try to think of how the most logical way to do things would be and that may be my downfall, LOL. Because most of what FD has done is illogical and downright stupid. MOO.
ETA: 30 or 35 minutes at WP is a very long time. IMO.

 

[citygirl]

Pattis also questions the timing of the gag order. It was issued on the same day that Dulos was arraigned in Norwalk Superior Court for the second set of charges without ever holding a hearing on his reasoning for issuing it.
“The trial court here abdicated its responsibility to make any factual record on the potential prejudicial impact of pre-trial publicity, relying instead on phantoms,” Pattis wrote. “The court did not hold hearings of any type to address the overwhelmingly prejudicial impact of the second warrant, a warrant the judge himself was full well aware of us as he signed it, presumably while working on his gag order ruling.”

The last time that Dulos appeared before Blawie earlier this month the judge angrily denied Pattis’ allegation that he hadn’t had a proper hearing before issuing the gag order.

Pattis said by issuing the gag order right at the time of the second arrest Blawie ignored “the substantial prejudice to the defendant caused by the State’s warrants filed in June, and, especially in September.” Pattis also said that Blawie failed to take into account that Connecticut has individual sequestered voir dire where attorney’s are allowed to probe potential juror sonhow much they know about the case.

Pattis also argued that Blawie never consulted with Dulos - the only party with a constitutional right to a fair trial. He said that Blawie should have asked Dulos whether he understood that exercising First Amendment right might, conceivably and somehow, undermine his fair trial right.

“Such a canvass would have provided Mr. Dulos the right to assert which right be was prepared to weigh more heavily in the balance. On the facts the circumstances of this case, the trial court’s paternalism – striking the balance for Mr. Dulos – is obscene, tying Mr. Dulos to the whipping post of public speculation,” Pattis said.

Ya gotta love Norm.
IMO, I don't think FD even follows or absorbs what is said in the court room. He consistently looks wide-eyed gazing up at his attorney in awe. Kinda like yeah that's it. Why didn't I think of that? He's my man .
MOO.