Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #30

[afitzy]

Can anyone answer this question? Would MT and FD be going against the no contact order if he allowed her to stay at 80 MTS through his lawyer and her lawyer?

My only suggestion is to call in the tip on this info to the States Atty and Judge Blawie and let them deal with it. It seems against the 'spirit' of the no contact order IMO but I'm not sure any of the individuals involved from FD, to MT and Mama A. with the situation care much about rules and courts as those things are for 'other people'. MOO

 

[afitzy]

FD...out shopping at Home Goods yesterday. Clearly he thinks he is getting away "scot free"... moo (but the picture is real).

Thanks for the 'laugh' hilarious to see the the 'petite prince' perusing housewares so intently!

Has to be a housewarming gift to welcome some VIPs to the hood! Maybe Sista and the Rear Admiral are in town so a celebration is in order?

But no, my guess is that Sista won't set foot in the US for fear of being served with deposition papers by Atty Weinstein, so probably not the Greek Family that has been blessedly silent recently.

So, who could it be now? MOO

 

[afitzy]

What is conflict free counsel? Didn’t he choose his own lawyer?

As others have pointed out he had Riccio and maybe they had a 'split'. I am sure this case will be another winner. I have to check and see what happened to Ferrens law licence as I don't recall if he was part of the CT or NY bars or both. My recollection is he lost his license to practice with the conviction but just want to make sure and I was also curious if he ever paid his ex wife any of the settlement money that she won in the litigation. This case was so foul that it was actually hard to read the news accounts. The wife picked up the children and left everything behind and fled and the house stayed that way for a long time with everything as they left it. Tragic situation. MOO

 

[SkylarSid]

My only suggestion is to call in the tip on this info to the States Atty and Judge Blawie and let them deal with it. It seems against the 'spirit' of the no contact order IMO but I'm not sure any of the individuals involved from FD, to MT and Mama A. with the situation care much about rules and courts as those things are for 'other people'. MOO

Is it worth it? They are simply in a pied-à-terre and probably trying to nest a little for the upcoming holidays. These little gatherings are probably going to be their last together...

 

[Southernsnooper]

Is this a sick joke?

Thanks for this update, why am I not surprised with this news AT ALL.

Think a possible tag line for the The Pattis and Smith firm should be, "Bring us your murderers, rapists, wife abusers and child molesters"! AKA SCUM'BE'US.

What a collection of miscreants IMO, no wonder FD fits right in!

MOO

You are spot on!

Speaks volumes looking at his clientele!!! Apparently he represents only the most sadistic, perverse, amoral, ruthless, devious, sickening, perfidious, despicable, bottom feeders as clients.

Wow, how fulfilled he must be representing pure evil. Must sleep well every night. Money’s great since the attorneys with morals don’t take on these clients, more money for him.

Bottom line, he’s cut from the same cloth as his clients.

moo

 

[Curious in CT]

It’s so great to have you back here with us, afitzy! You were missed! Happy day!

Late response, but welcome back, @afitzy . You are the wind beneath our wings, analyst of all obdurate puzzles!

 

[Southernsnooper]

My only suggestion is to call in the tip on this info to the States Atty and Judge Blawie and let them deal with it. It seems against the 'spirit' of the no contact order IMO but I'm not sure any of the individuals involved from FD, to MT and Mama A. with the situation care much about rules and courts as those things are for 'other people'. MOO

Yes! We try and assume they are aware but we’re talking about the same people who had no clue MT returned to CT after one day.
Moo

 

[Southernsnooper]

Is it worth it? They are simply in a pied-à-terre and probably trying to nest a little for the upcoming holidays. These little gatherings are probably going to be their last together...

I wish he was arrested in the middle of Home Goods as he was pondering which dish to buy.

The fact that he was out shopping in a very popular, public, store and MT is also out enjoying coffee and wine clearly shows they are in cahoots and trying to send a purposeful message. The do not want people to think that they’re at home, stewing, ashamed or worried about their futures. Calculated as usual.
Moo

 

[Tink56]

You are spot on!

Speaks volumes looking at his clientele!!! Apparently he represents only the most sadistic, perverse, amoral, ruthless, devious, sickening, perfidious, despicable, bottom feeders as clients.

Wow, how fulfilled he must be representing pure evil. Must sleep well every night. Money’s great since the attorneys with morals don’t take on these clients, more money for him.

Bottom line, he’s cut from the same cloth as his clients.

moo

To NP this is all a game...I think he referred to the courtroom as a amphitheater...it's a challenge without anything to do with justice, fairness, truth, or compassion. To NP it a human verbal chess game in which his only goal is to win. Just like FD, it's all about winning and losing...manipulating the facts to tell a "story" favorable to his client. That story doesn't need truth or validation or common sense, either. It all about presentation and creating doubt for the uninformed juror.

After sitting through voir dire in which it was obvious the defendant's lawyer was looking for the juror who was not aware, not highly educated, not very interested in the case, I'm concerned about the ethics involved in "defending" clients who have the key to ending the suffering for families who have lost loved ones. Not sure where NP thinks he'll find his jury, but I doubt in will be in the southwestern or central part of CT where citizens are more aware of JD's disappearance and FD's role in it.

I'm thankful that most of the medias are repeating the facts as they are known in the case in each news article. Hopefully, NP and his staff of attorneys and his investigators will run up a very hefty bill for FD before a murder charge is delivered in the best AW. MOO

 

[afitzy]

Late response, but welcome back, @afitzy . You are the wind beneath our wings, analyst of all obdurate puzzles!

Back at you buddy! So missed seeing that flying honey jar on here and how you brilliantly manage in 5 words what I cannot figure out with 50! Wish I had your gift of words, but I missed you too!

 

[BellaVita]

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This is where Bowman addresses motion for MT to go to NY and also the motion where judge rules on no contact with FD. MT asking that FD be directed not to contact her. I also looked at the 1st bond hearing and MT was ordered to stay away from JD family. I feel since this no contact order was at MT initiation, it's sort of voluntary. I'm not sure how much trouble she would be in if there is contact. There is nothing that says she cannot contact FD if she wants to. FD would be the one in trouble, especially if not reciprocal. But if it's mutual, would be surprised if that revokes FD bond. Nothing else has worked. JMO.

 

[afitzy]

To NP this is all a game...I think he referred to the courtroom as a amphitheater...it's a challenge without anything to do with justice, fairness, truth, or compassion. To NP it a human verbal chess game in which his only goal is to win. Just like FD, it's all about winning and losing...manipulating the facts to tell a "story" favorable to his client. That story doesn't need truth or validation or common sense, either. It all about presentation and creating doubt for the uninformed juror.

After sitting through voir dire in which it was obvious the defendant's lawyer was looking for the juror who was not aware, not highly educated, not very interested in the case, I'm concerned about the ethics involved in "defending" clients who have the key to ending the suffering for families who have lost loved ones. Not sure where NP thinks he'll find his jury, but I doubt in will be in the southwestern or central part of CT where citizens are more aware of JD's disappearance and FD's role in it.

I'm thankful that most of the medias are repeating the facts as they are known in the case in each news article. Hopefully, NP and his staff of attorneys and his investigators will run up a very hefty bill for FD before a murder charge is delivered in the best AW. MOO

Agree and IMO its all quite cynical, absolutely sad and has zero to do with truth or justice but IMO also its made even more pathetic with all the word salad irrelevant lip service given by Atty. P. to the US Constitution.

For my money I am taking absolute comfort from the win/loss ratio of Atty. P. (who has no case here IMO) over the course of his legal career and very much anticipate seeing the FD and MT AW3 and AW4.

MOO

 

[BellaVita]

Agree and IMO its all quite cynical, absolutely sad and has zero to do with truth or justice but IMO also its made even more pathetic with all the word salad irrelevant lip service given by Atty. P. to the US Constitution.

For my money I am taking absolute comfort from the win/loss ratio of Atty. P. (who has no case here IMO) over the course of his legal career and very much anticipate seeing the FD and MT AW3 and AW4.

MOO

As I watched the 1st bond hearing, it would be laughable if not so sad. For NP to stand up there and say there is NO evidence against FD in the face of the garbage run and DNA inside WL which several people testified he didn't go inside that night. Also the alibi timeline has gone whoosh. Mentioned was the Greek phone call, meeting with lawyer, impossible to be in New Canaan, still trying to get phone records, MT and FD verified as being together between 9:30 and 1:30. Interesting to go back.

 

[afitzy]

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This is where Bowman addresses motion for MT to go to NY and also the motion where judge rules on no contact with FD. MT asking that FD be directed not to contact her. I also looked at the 1st bond hearing and MT was ordered to stay away from JD family. I feel since this no contact order was at MT initiation, it's sort of voluntary. I'm not sure how much trouble she would be in if there is contact. There is nothing that says she cannot contact FD if she wants to. FD would be the one in trouble, especially if not reciprocal. But if it's mutual, would be surprised if that revokes FD bond. Nothing else has worked. JMO.

Great summary...no contact INCLUDES through family and friends.

I truly do wonder about Mama A here???

Has she been compliant with the no contact order and might we see her in Court to face Judge Blawie?

Judge B: Mama A. have you been in contact with the estranged BF of your daughter MT since May 24th?

Mama A: Can you rephrase the question as I have no idea what you are talking about Judge?

Judge B: Mama A., did you text or contact Fotis Dulos since May 24th?

Mama A: Can you rephrase the question as I have no idea what you are talking about Judge?

Judge B: Mama A., have you spoken to or run into or contacted Fotis Dulos since May 24th, 2019?

Mama A: I choose to invoke my 5th Amendment right Mr. Judge.

Judge B: Ma'am, you like your daughter in Civil Court, IMO you are abusing your right to use the 5th Amendment and I am ordering you to jail to consider your responses to my earlier questions. Would you like an interpreter to perhaps ask my questions to you in a language with which you might feel more comfortable?

Mama A: How dare you Mr. Judge even think that my english is not adequate to understand your most stupid and useless questions! I do not require an interpreter.

Judge B: Good news! Just checking to make sure you understood all my questions but were simply unwilling to answer any of them. Ma'am I've had enough of your wasting this courts valuable time. Good day. Please let the Bailiff know when you are ready and willing to answer the Courts questions.

Judge B: Bailiff, Please escort Mama A to Door 2 and hand her off to the Jail attendant and place her in holding to reevaluate her answers here.

MOO

 

[afitzy]

As I watched the 1st bond hearing, it would be laughable if not so sad. For NP to stand up there and say there is NO evidence against FD in the face of the garbage run and DNA inside WL which several people testified he didn't go inside that night. Also the alibi timeline has gone whoosh. Mentioned was the Greek phone call, meeting with lawyer, impossible to be in New Canaan, still trying to get phone records, MT and FD verified as being together between 9:30 and 1:30. Interesting to go back.

Yep, all 'alibi script' nonsense as it is clear FD lied to his counsel for months just like MT - two peas in a pod IMO.

IMO Atty. P. has NO CASE here but will simply seek to abuse the legal system of CT to the maximum extent possible.

I absolutely understand the precision required by the State to deal with this onslaught of muck from Atty. P. so even if it takes years and sorry not sorry bankrupts FD and the "Greek Benefactor" in the process! My guess is that FD faces his criminal trial/s and civil trial/s with a Public Defender.

MOO

 

[BellaVita]

Great summary...no contact INCLUDES through family and friends.

I truly do wonder about Mama A here???

Has she been compliant with the no contact order and might we see her in Court to face Judge Blawie?

Judge B: Mama A. have you been in contact with the estranged BF of your daughter MT since May 24th?

Mama A: Can you rephrase the question as I have no idea what you are talking about Judge?

Judge B: Mama A., did you text or contact Fotis Dulos since May 24th?

Mama A: Can you rephrase the question as I have no idea what you are talking about Judge?

Judge B: Mama A., have you spoken to or run into or contacted Fotis Dulos since May 24th, 2019?

Mama A: I choose to invoke my 5th Amendment right Mr. Judge.

Judge B: Ma'am, you like your daughter IMO are abusing your right to the use of the 5th Amendment and I am ordering you to jail to consider your responses to my earlier questions. Would you like an interpreter to perhaps ask my questions to you in a language with which you might feel more comfortable?

Mama A: How dare you Mr. Judge even think that my english is not adequate to understand your most stupid and useless questions! I do not require an interpreter.

Judge B: Good news! Just checking to make sure you understood all my questions but we unwilling to answer any of them. Ma'am I've had enough of your wasting this courts valuable time. Good day.

Judge B: Bailiff, Please escort Mama A to Door 2 and hand her off to the Jail attendant and place her in holding to reevaluate her answers here.

MOO

Did I misunderstand? Because the first no contact order regarding JD family was an order by the judge as condition of release. That order told MT to stay away from them. I did not take it as meaning FD as part of that because normally a judge would be specific about that. Aaahh, coming back to me now. FD and NP took it as no contact though because now I remember NP giving his speech about the court lifting the no contact order. That was before MT motion for no contact against FD. Surprised the judge wasn't more specific. JMO.
PS you are great screenwriter, lol
ETA: I didn't see any similar orders directed to FD at his bond hearing.

 

[joypath]

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This is where Bowman addresses motion for MT to go to NY and also the motion where judge rules on no contact with FD. MT asking that FD be directed not to contact her. I also looked at the 1st bond hearing and MT was ordered to stay away from JD family. I feel since this no contact order was at MT initiation, it's sort of voluntary. I'm not sure how much trouble she would be in if there is contact. There is nothing that says she cannot contact FD if she wants to. FD would be the one in trouble, especially if not reciprocal. But if it's mutual, would be surprised if that revokes FD bond. Nothing else has worked. JMO.

Reading by an other party NOT involved in this case: MT COULD contact FD, not a problem but FD can NOT reach out to MT. Further opinion, this "victim MT" reach out is an "acceptable manner" of circumventing the no contact order & happens in DV cases more than one might think.

 

[afitzy]

Did I misunderstand? Because the first no contact order regarding JD family was an order by the judge as condition of release. That order told MT to stay away from them. I did not take it as meaning FD as part of that because normally a judge would be specific about that. Aaahh, coming back to me now. FD and NP took it as no contact though because now I remember NP giving his speech about the court lifting the no contact order. That was before MT motion for no contact against FD. Surprised the judge wasn't more specific. JMO.
PS you are great screenwriter, lol
ETA: I didn't see any similar orders directed to FD at his bond hearing.

The FD order was brought into his case by Atty Colangelo to 'mirror' the order given by MT Judge in her case. Trying these 2 people separately will be a circus to watch as no doubt we will see orders being mirrored between the 2 courts which will make following along tricky. MOO

 

[afitzy]

Reading by an other party NOT involved in this case: MT COULD contact FD, not a problem but FD can NOT reach out to MT. Further opinion, this "victim MT" reach out is an "acceptable manner" of circumventing the no contact order & happens in DV cases more than one might think.

My recollection was that neither party could contact the other and ditto for family and friends/intermediaries. Will have to dig out the original order from MT case and then see how it was interpreted in the FD case. I'm not sure we ever saw the actual order in the FD case but just heard Judge Blawie and Atty Colangelo discuss the matter. Will have to add this to the list of follow up questions.

 

[Jmoose]

JMHO YMMV LRR

Justice for Jennifer

Hilarious-I am always making this reference re: certain kinds of lawyers