Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #31

[BellaVita]

Motion to Compel. Plead for jail punishment if not complied. Set a hearing ordering him to appear. And answer why he’s never produced them. Then personally serve him. If he doesn’t show up, have him picked up. He can fight records, but not showing up will land him in jail. If I’m correct, he will fight records on 5th Amendment grounds.
This ENTIRE mess probably could have been avoided if the family court had forced the record production in the very beginning. 400 plus filings didn’t accomplish anything except Jennifer’s disappearance and presumed death.

Thank you. I have been saying this all along. 1000 Likes.

 

[afitzy]

Did MT apply for a real estate license?
Or for that matter, did FD apply for one to get a commission when his houses sold?

No, it appears MT did not take the class for the RE license or take the test. I believe in CT you have to take the class (certain number of hours) and then you take the test for salespersons license. We have no info on whether FD did/didn't have a Salespersons license but my suspicion is he did not even though he was asking to share in the commission.

CT RE commission are typically negotiated but can be up to 6%. We don't know what the fee offered by FD to his real estate people might have been. I wonder if he cut the fee to the bone and that fact in addition to having overpriced inventory was what resulted in 3 sitting 'white elephant' houses in Farmington? I'd be curious to know when in the last year any of the houses actually had a bona fide potential buyer walk through. One of the issues with higher end houses is that the marketing costs are significantly higher for the brokers and if the fee is cut way back this can impact the situation greatly. We saw the Giuffria/Tea Leaf video of 4Jx property and I believe drone footage of 80 MS along with the FD/FORE video. None of these videos are inexpensive to produce. Maybe FD/MT took on the task of making these videos themselves to cut down on marketing costs. IDK.

MOO

 

[afitzy]

I believe you are 100% correct. And I wonder if that was what AB actually meant when mentioning conspiracy. I also wonder though about the calls here to "stack the charges". In CT, AFAIK, judges have authority to run sentences concurrent or consecutive. In practice though, how often are charges arising from the same underlying crime actually sentenced as consecutive? I know I've seen it in cases where there is an actual murder conviction but evidence tampering and hindering an investigation......????? JMO.

This is an interesting question to look into so will add it to the growing research list! The last time I looked at it though you are correct that there is discretion for Judges in this area.

I think the reason I have even been even bringing up the issue of 'stacking charges' has been to use it as a 'big club' for lack of a better word to possibly bang some sense into MT to consider working with the State (I no longer believe this will happen, but never say never!). With the existing MT charges I believe if convicted she would serve a max of 10 years for each charge and this doesn't appear to have moved her towards working with the State so far as we can see in AW2 IMO. Also, having multiple relevant charges present gives juries more options during deliberations I believe.

It might just be too early in the process of the overall investigation to see much of anything in terms of cooperation from MT, IDK. Will just have to wait it out.

MOO

 

[BellaVita]

This in some ways is a big question....Rob Guffria said in an interview with Weinstein that FD really believed he didn't have to pay the mortgage anymore. Perhaps, RG was questioning whether or not FD could sell the property.
Was that after MT went to NY and read whatever will/trust documents she read? IMO, this is issue is of real concern for MT and her many "slightly" illegal issues in AB's mind.

But he stopped paying before the death/disappearance of Jennifer. Her name also on mortgage. Can't sell a house without other person's consent. So, HF gave $500K loan/mortgage to JD/FD and put up additional $3Million security with Mellon Bank. Bank let GF/HF estate buy the mortgage. GF/HF would then be acting in the capacity of a bank now. How did FD think HF estate would just pay the balance and let him continue to hold the deed? Was there mortgage insurance and did FD think it would somehow pay off the balance and now 4JC would be paid for? Bank was smart to let HF buy back mortgage. Any sale of the property would have been a short sale and a huge monetary loss. With JD gone, did FD really think that house would be paid for and he could sell it without interference? There's a motive for murder right there but can't understand his thinking that 4JC would be paid off. It sounds delusional. JMO and maybe someone can break it down simply because the mortgage mess is somewhat of a mystery to me. Do I have any of the basics right, LOL!

 

[afitzy]

@afitzy I think you put this very diplomatically. IMO Atty Bowman is milking whatever he has left of his reputation to get MT's highly irregular blanket 5th and scripted depo accepted by Judge Noble. Would love a civil litigation attorney to weigh in here. Does it smell like Atty Bowman is calling in a huge favor from his cronies to the detriment of the entire system of civil litigation? MOO.

A true adversarial depo has many interruptions and off the record breaks to call the judge (or his clerk) to rule on objections to the exact wording of a question or answer. No such objections or interruptions here. It couldn't have been a more calm and soothing read. Despite the well-researched questions of Atty Weinstein, he was, IMO, ham-strung as far as gathering material for cross-examination and impeachment. Well nevermind. It is obvi that MT will not be allowed to take the stand to perjure herself because she is that guilty. MOO.

IMO, the affidavit of Atty Bowman stands for [REDACTED]. How can Atty Bowman know precisely how answering or not answering a question as benign as citizenship will affect MT's right against self-incrimination unless Atty Bowman is swearing to the fact that MT is guilty as [REDACTED] of every crime conceivable under the circumstances, that any truthful answer would be an admission of guilt and guilt is as easily proven as a simple "yes" or "no" to questions 1, 2 and 3? Bring on the independently verified facts at trial. MT can just go sit in a corner. Atty Weinstein doesn't need her testimony to prove his case. MOO.

I agree with you here that the affidavit of Atty Bowman stands for [REDACTED] and it was curious to not see more back and forth from Atty Weinstein and Atty Bowman as they both seemed to largely be going through the motions in this farce IMO based on the most recent motion we saw. My sense is that it was a tactical move on the part of Atty Weinstein and so this sad game rolls on and will possibly involve Judge intervention via motion or perhaps direct involvement in a future deposition by the Judge.

Wonder though if Atty Weinstein simply has to go through this painful process of multiple motions on the same topic to so very clearly prove his point to the Judge as to the MT involvement with FORE and FD?

What I find so amusing about this entire process is that MT hasn't really said a word in Civil Court, Atty Bowman has said many words and filed multiple motions and in terms of perception at least MT appears to be about as close to being a co-conspirator in this case as we have yet seen thus far - looks like we have a real 'Bonnie and Clyde' here on our hands based on what Atty Bowman has said in his various motions! I do wonder if he has badly overplayed his hand here with overkill and I very much wonder if there weren't some other way to defuse this situation rather than lobbing a bomb with blanket invocation of the 5th? IDK but his handling did not seem at all deft as you point out and I very much hope the Judge doesn't let this situation stand as it presently is with blanket invocation being acceptable in this situation for MT.

Atty Bowman and Atty Weinstein had previously agreed to seal the MT deposition and even that it seems was not sufficient for Atty Bowman as we later see blanket invocation of MT 5th. This leads me to believe that MT is truly in a legal black hole from which Atty Bowman has no clue on how to deal with the situation. But, it doesn't seem that this black hole legal situation should excuse blanket invocation of the MT 5th either, so I hope the Judge takes a good hard look at the situation and Atty Weinstein proves to be a 'pitbull' on this issue as well via appeal etc. as it seems like Atty Bowman is simply attempting to abuse the invocation rules of the MT 5th amendment to cover his [REDACTED] on lack of legal options for the overall situation which admittedly does involve a good amount of uncertainty. 3d chess match indeed with the State!

I realise the 'optics' of the MT legal situation is not the same as her actual overall legal situation (which seems dire IMO) but by virtue of doing what he has done in Civil Court it seems like he has simply planted himself with a big red flag in front of the courthouse and said 'don't look here, nothing to see here' to the State. Its almost as if he is asking for more charges to be filed against his client now?

To be continued unfortunately but I don't see how a 12/3 trial can be a reality at this point.

MOO

 

[kimch33kim]

No, it appears MT did not take the class for the RE license or take the test. I believe in CT you have to take the class (certain number of hours) and then you take the test for salespersons license. We have no info on whether FD did/didn't have a Salespersons license but my suspicion is he did not even though he was asking to share in the commission.

CT RE commission are typically negotiated but can be up to 6%. We don't know what the fee offered by FD to his real estate people might have been. I wonder if he cut the fee to the bone and that fact in addition to having overpriced inventory was what resulted in 3 sitting 'white elephant' houses in Farmington? I'd be curious to know when in the last year any of the houses actually had a bona fide potential buyer walk through. One of the issues with higher end houses is that the marketing costs are significantly higher for the brokers and if the fee is cut way back this can impact the situation greatly. We saw the Giuffria/Tea Leaf video of 4Jx property and I believe drone footage of 80 MS along with the FD/FORE video. None of these videos are inexpensive to produce. Maybe FD/MT took on the task of making these videos themselves to cut down on marketing costs. IDK.

MOO

Are you able to check if la and bc took the class or got their licenses?

 

[SkylarSid]

But he stopped paying before the death/disappearance of Jennifer. Her name also on mortgage. Can't sell a house without other person's consent. So, HF gave $500K loan/mortgage to JD/FD and put up additional $3Million security with Mellon Bank. Bank let GF/HF estate buy the mortgage. GF/HF would then be acting in the capacity of a bank now. How did FD think HF estate would just pay the balance and let him continue to hold the deed? Was there mortgage insurance and did FD think it would somehow pay off the balance and now 4JC would be paid for? Bank was smart to let HF buy back mortgage. Any sale of the property would have been a short sale and a huge monetary loss. With JD gone, did FD really think that house would be paid for and he could sell it without interference? There's a motive for murder right there but can't understand his thinking that 4JC would be paid off. It sounds delusional. JMO and maybe someone can break it down simply because the mortgage mess is somewhat of a mystery to me. Do I have any of the basics right, LOL!

It is mind boggling. And didn't he want the loan somehow converted to equity? That one confused me!

 

[BellaVita]

It is mind boggling. And didn't he want the loan somehow converted to equity? That one confused me!

My understanding is he DID show the 500k converted to equity. I think when applying for another loan. The one where the bank officer may be involved with shady dealing. IIRC.

 

[afitzy]

Motion to Compel. Plead for jail punishment if not complied. Set a hearing ordering him to appear. And answer why he’s never produced them. Then personally serve him. If he doesn’t show up, have him picked up. He can fight records, but not showing up will land him in jail. If I’m correct, he will fight records on 5th Amendment grounds.
This ENTIRE mess probably could have been avoided if the family court had forced the record production in the very beginning. 400 plus filings didn’t accomplish anything except Jennifer’s disappearance and presumed death.

I would like to believe that 'not showing up' would land someone in jail, but in CT it apparently has zero effect for FD either in Civil Court or Family Court.

I believe so far FD hasn't shown up in the Civil Case 3 times and has been non compliant with discovery motions for prolonged periods of time as well (Quickbooks is a perfect example as that was due in 2018).

Atty Weinstein I believe has filed for "Default" at least 2 times I believe due to these FD decisions to not show up but the Judge has not supported these requests.

MOO

 

[BellaVita]

But he stopped paying before the death/disappearance of Jennifer. Her name also on mortgage. Can't sell a house without other person's consent. So, HF gave $500K loan/mortgage to JD/FD and put up additional $3Million security with Mellon Bank. Bank let GF/HF estate buy the mortgage. GF/HF would then be acting in the capacity of a bank now. How did FD think HF estate would just pay the balance and let him continue to hold the deed? Was there mortgage insurance and did FD think it would somehow pay off the balance and now 4JC would be paid for? Bank was smart to let HF buy back mortgage. Any sale of the property would have been a short sale and a huge monetary loss. With JD gone, did FD really think that house would be paid for and he could sell it without interference? There's a motive for murder right there but can't understand his thinking that 4JC would be paid off. It sounds delusional. JMO and maybe someone can break it down simply because the mortgage mess is somewhat of a mystery to me. Do I have any of the basics right, LOL!

Replying to my own post! Also, what was the fascination with Farmington and why did JD want and agree to live there? Maybe FD wanted to be there because so much farther away from the Farber family and isolated Jennifer. I have to think that the building/purchase of these over-priced properties was part of a scheme to funnel money and FD knew full well there would never be a profit when all was said and done. JMO.

 

[Cloudydiamond]

Are you able to check if la and bc took the class or got their licenses?

It looks as though she took and passed the class and sent in her application to take the exam, but never did. Edit: I think she failed the exam because she was issued a credential perhaps at the time of the exam. She would have had 4 attempts within the year to retake it.

 

[afitzy]

Replying to my own post! Also, what was the fascination with Farmington and why did JD want and agree to live there? Maybe FD wanted to be there because so much farther away from the Farber family and isolated Jennifer. I have to think that the building/purchase of these over-priced properties was part of a scheme to funnel money and FD knew full well there would never be a profit when all was said and done. JMO.

I think I've come full circle on all these 'white elephant' properties as I very much wonder now if the house wasn't what was important but rather the 'process and cash' associated with building the house was what mattered to FD/FORE? Perhaps something about the building process and/or subcontractors and real estate agents etc. allowed for money to be 'redeployed' or possibly even 'laundered' by FD/FORE.

We still have no explanation also for the various 'friend loans' to FORE/FD but my suspicion is that they are possibly tied to whatever scheme FD/FORE had going on or are possible ways to make it less likely for GF to collect on what is owed her and the Estate.

Land is less expensive in Farmington vs. NC or Greenwich or Darien etc. and putting up the expensive/overpriced for the market house that really had no shot at being sold IMO absent a huge price break was is highly suspicious IMO. My guess at this point is that the houses built accomplished whatever goal FD/FORE had for them and are not important to him now which is why there are no marketing efforts and really haven't been for nearly 2 years now so far as we can tell. I've been surprised that FD has kept the taxes on the properties paid as its quite mysterious where the funds have come from to even do this much IMO.

MOO

 

[afitzy]

It looks as though she took and passed the class and sent in her application to take the exam, but never did.

Thanks for finding this! I looked at didn't see it. I just reported my own post which had incorrect information so it is deleted by the Mods so nobody is confused.

 

[sds71]

53.00 11/15/2019 P MOTION FOR COMMISSION FOR DEPOSITION

EXPEDITED

Also,FD wants LAs tax records and student loan payment records

 

[Cloudydiamond]

Thanks for finding this! I looked at didn't see it. I just reported my own post which had incorrect information so it is deleted by the Mods so nobody is confused.

As a former CT Realtor, I knew where to look. I edited my original answer because now I believe she didn’t pass the exam.

 

[Nanobody]

I think I've come full circle on all these 'white elephant' properties as I very much wonder now if the house wasn't what was important but rather the 'process and cash' associated with building the house was what mattered to FD/FORE? Perhaps something about the building process and/or subcontractors and real estate agents etc. allowed for money to be 'redeployed' or possibly even 'laundered' by FD/FORE.

We still have no explanation also for the various 'friend loans' to FORE/FD but my suspicion is that they are possibly tied to whatever scheme FD/FORE had going on or are possible ways to make it less likely for GF to collect on what is owed her and the Estate.

Land is less expensive in Farmington vs. NC or Greenwich or Darien etc. and putting up the expensive/overpriced for the market house that really had no shot at being sold IMO absent a huge price break was is highly suspicious IMO. My guess at this point is that the houses built accomplished whatever goal FD/FORE had for them and are not important to him now which is why there are no marketing efforts and really haven't been for nearly 2 years now so far as we can tell. I've been surprised that FD has kept the taxes on the properties paid as its quite mysterious where the funds have come from to even do this much IMO.

MOO

Technically they were marketing the homes and did at least one house tour last year (New Canaan Cares on Instagram: “️It’s official! Spring has finally decided to show up! Daffs have bloomed, lawn mowers humming! Perfect prep time for the Homes on…”) but I think they did just enough marketing to look busy and have new work to submit to the HOBI awards. It was 100% about appearances, not selling houses. Money laundering accomplished through the building process makes the most sense.

MOO.

Edit to add though: if he was money laundering, why couldn't he get the Vu estimate (the one mentioned in the Google reviews) down to a reasonable amount? That's the only weird part I can't seem to make sense of.

 

[sds71]

A judge denies an attorney's request to have the nanny of the children of missing New Canaan woman Jennifer Dulos, and her estranged husband Fotis Dulos, provide a deposition in lawsuits filed against Fotis.
Jennifer Dulos disappearance: Judge denies attorney’s request to question nanny
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A judge has temporarily denied a motion to have the longtime nanny of the Dulos children provide a deposition in the $2.5 million lawsuits filed against their father.
Lauren Almeida was identified as the nanny for the five Dulos children, who were between the ages of 8 and 13 when the court papers were filed in June just weeks after their mother Jennifer Dulos disappeared on May 24.
Attorney Richard Weinstein, representing Gloria Farber in the civil lawsuits filed against her son-in-law, Fotis Dulos, was seeking testimony from Almeida about her knowledge of his business finances, according to court

 

[kimch33kim]

53.00 11/15/2019 P MOTION FOR COMMISSION FOR DEPOSITION

EXPEDITED

Also,FD wants LAs tax records and student loan payment records

I think they want it in attempts to discredit her testimony against FD. Maybe the Farber's and JD helped her a lot after 2017 and FD knows about it. MOO

 

[kimch33kim]

11/13/19 106.00 Air Condition Case Murray finally files and answers as to why FD should not pay the amount AC company is asking fun and the responses are "So FD and company-like". P.S. FD has had a relationship with them over 7 years so their relationship also took a terrible turn.
106.00 11/13/2019 D ANSWER AND SPECIAL DEFENSE

in response to -->

102.00 08/19/2019 P SUMMONS AND COMPLAINT

 

[sds71]

254.00 11/15/2019 P REPLY

RE: MOTION TO COMPEL RESPONSES
M.T.