Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #31

[pernickety]

Exactly.

That is how I understood the motions.

With everyone's comments here, I was concerned that I may have been incorrect in my understanding.

I understood that Weinstein's request in regards to NP was denied, because the Judge had Already ruled that FD was to provide that information, since it was ruled Not privileged.

Judge Nobel, basically was saying that it was redundant to ask for NP to submit, when FD was Already Ordered to do so, in a previous motion.

Most people have thought that since NP did not have to submit, that then the Information would not be within the scope of the case.

My concern and is most likely Weinstein's concern as well, is that FD is NOT going to provide Accurate Financial Information on who is 'Paying' NP and crew.

Therefore the 'Reason' for Weinstein's Motion to Dispose NP, who is an officer of the court and Should tell the truth.

FD will NOT tell the truth.

FD has spent the last 2 years Refusing to provide Accurate Financial Information in both the Family and the Civil Cases.

FD has yet to abide by Any Court's mandate to provide Accurate Financial Information.

What does Judge Nobel know that we don't?

Does Judge Nobel Really Expect FD to comply with a Court Order at this point, especially Financial?

Until a Judge in FD's life, puts their FOOT DOWN on FD, there is no compelling FD to do anything, much less provide Accurate Financial Information.

A toddler will test and test the limits with a parent and will Never comply if consequences are not consistently imposed.

Now the CT courts have a 3 year old toddler, on their hands.

Just wait for that hurricane of a tantrum, when someone finally imposes a consequence on this toddler.

Unfortunately, JF was a victim of a deadly tantrum by FD.

I can only Hope that the new year brings the rushing waters down on this toddler.

IMO.

Judge: Fotis Dulos must reveal how Norm Pattis is being paid

Above is the SA article re Judge Noble's first ruling on it--that FD must reveal how Norm Pattis is being paid.
“ However, Noble sided with Weinstein in several other rulings, requiring Fotis Dulos to reveal the financial information related to Pattis and McKenna.” I agree with you that the judge might have said--in his rulings as to whether Pattis had to reveal the info--that it would be "redundant", but he didn't say that. I assume that if Fotis didn't yet produce the records Weinstein requested--and the court ordered to be produced, by overruling def's objection--(including the retainer agreement with NP) Weinstein would've filed a motion for default on it for failure to comply with a court order. MOO

 

[dkryder]

Translation: My only concern is my children and their trust funds and I can't wait to see them again even though I haven't contributed a penny in child support for them and I haven't bothered to even "pretend look" or show any concern for the mother they love dearly & must deeply miss.

And btw, why does the press cater to him like that with the microphones set up outside the courthouse? He's not a celebrity, he's a suspected murderer who doesn't deserve any attention. Nothing he says is of any importance. The only people I want to hear from are LE & the only words I want to hear are: You're under arrest Mr. Dulos.
MOO.

i think this press coverage is because for the local station they can say "coming up next ,it was another day in court for dulos...." then commercial. it's a way to keep people coming back. what i would like to see is some indie reporter address him with this question every time he approaches the microphone , " Mr. Dulos, did you kill Jennifer?" and then after his statement. and then follow him to his car politely asking , "Mr. Dulos, do you pay child support ?" who knows, he might decide not to approach microphones

 

[sunshinegirl2013]

Tomorrow, here in Northern California, where I live; is the one year anniversary of the Camp Fire in Paradise. In Public Health (the department I work in) 12 people lost their homes and everything precious to them. At 11:08a tomorrow we are doing a moment of silence for the lives that were lost during the fire. I will also be mourning, Jennifer Farber and Kelsey Berreth. The fire, and the death and destruction that came with it is unfathomable; as is the needless death of Jennifer and Kelsey. I have my tissues ready - tomorrow is going to be a hard day, Not MOO...truth.

Will be thinking of you & your co-workers and others affected by the terrible Camp Fire last year. Sending (((hugs)))

 

[Mimi in London]

Imo Atty. P. Was blowing smoke about quick trial and pushing buttons of State who smartly didn’t take that bait IMO. They have limited discovery and zero alternative theory and their client spewed the alibi script for months so the public narrative is blown too IMO and their client is an avowed liar as documented by judge heller in family court and due to the alibi scripts. State holds all the cards now and defense has zero IMO. Atty. P. palming off case to another atty also gives the case strange optics. But perhaps as the smartest guy in the room, FD wants to effectively represent himself? I do very much wonder if FD is simply the client that no atty can represent? My guess is yes but the sad thing is that given the charges he needs solid representation and does need to be saved from himself IMO. But I don’t see anyone able to do this unfortunately.

In certain respects it might help the defense if the body were located perhaps as it might give them something to work with but it doesn’t seem that either FD or MT will give up the location or any possible accomplice.

Looks like FD and MT prefer to roll the dice on possible murder charges in a no body case with the high likihood of dna evidence from MIRA. Perhaps the results of the Frasee jury might change course for MT and FD. We shall see.

Last part BBM. What’s the betting each of them - and their lawyers - are watching that very closely.

 

[Mimi in London]

I keep thinking that if this cast of attorneys were in a book, everyone would say it's improbable....Oh my goodness!

I feel I’ve been transported to London in 1852. Jarndyce and Jarndyce have nothing on this cast of characters. Charles Dickens, come back. You could write a trilogy about this lot.

 

[dlharris2712]

Will be thinking of you & your co-workers and others affected by the terrible Camp Fire last year. Sending (((hugs)))

Thank you...it is only 9:00a...and so many tears have been shed between all of us.

 

[Tink56]

Thank you...it is only 9:00a...and so many tears have been shed between all of us.

Good thoughts and hugs to all of you!

 

[Alathea]

i think this press coverage is because for the local station they can say "coming up next ,it was another day in court for dulos...." then commercial. it's a way to keep people coming back. what i would like to see is some indie reporter address him with this question every time he approaches the microphone , " Mr. Dulos, did you kill Jennifer?" and then after his statement. and then follow him to his car politely asking , "Mr. Dulos, do you pay child support ?" who knows, he might decide not to approach microphones

bbm Yes! They did that in the very beginning - now they just stand back and allow him to say he "cares about the kids" after he removed their financial and psychological support system, by killing their mother.

And then, spreading the incredibly cruel rumor that she abandoned them... disgusting beyond words.

 

[Alathea]

What possible "interest" needs to be "preserved overriding the public's interest" in this case. A diversion program for the defendant or the person to whom he is accused of selling drugs???? I really wish the judiciary would speak common sense...

MOO...Edited to fix basic communication errors...it's late...

IMO, a likely possible explanation is that he sold narcotics or hallucinogens to a minor, so the purpose of the seal is likely to hide the minor's identity.

ETR: Deleted the last options, as it says in the document that the arrest was for a "sale or possession with intent to sell by a non drug-dependent person"

 

[Alathea]

Imo Atty. P. Was blowing smoke about quick trial and pushing buttons of State who smartly didn’t take that bait IMO. They have limited discovery and zero alternative theory and their client spewed the alibi script for months so the public narrative is blown too IMO and their client is an avowed liar as documented by judge heller in family court and due to the alibi scripts. State holds all the cards now and defense has zero IMO. Atty. P. palming off case to another atty also gives the case strange optics. But perhaps as the smartest guy in the room, FD wants to effectively represent himself? I do very much wonder if FD is simply the client that no atty can represent? My guess is yes but the sad thing is that given the charges he needs solid representation and does need to be saved from himself IMO. But I don’t see anyone able to do this unfortunately.

In certain respects it might help the defense if the body were located perhaps as it might give them something to work with but it doesn’t seem that either FD or MT will give up the location or any possible accomplice.

Looks like FD and MT prefer to roll the dice on possible murder charges in a no body case with the high likihood of dna evidence from MIRA. Perhaps the results of the Frasee jury might change course for MT and FD. We shall see.

BBM. If MT has any brains, she'll be doing exactly what KK (Krystal - who was Frazee's girlfriend and helped clean up after the murder) is doing in the Frazee trial: telling EVERYTHING she knows in order to get much less time - even if she were directly involved in the murder.

It's amazing how much LE knew about that case behind the scenes! Astonishing. Frazee is toast, IMO.

 

[sds71]

IMO, three possible explanations are:

1) He sold narcotics or hallucinogens to a minor, so it's to hide the minor's identity
2) He's offered some sort of deal to go into drug rehab for his own drug problems, if that is the case
3) Both of the above
I am thinking it's more like 1) because if he were entering drug rehab he'd be off the FD case, no?

It’s probably a dui and You can ask for it to be sealed the enter a PTI program and after accelerated probation it’ll be expunged

 

[Alathea]

It’s probably a dui and You can ask for it to be sealed the enter a PTI program and after accelerated probation it’ll be expunged

Respectfully: If I read the document referring to his arrests correctly, the case document, which details his 2 counts, refers to a sale or intent to sell "Narcotics, controlled substances and hallucinogens," and excludes marijuana. It looks very different than a typical DUI.

Also I can take 2 and 3 off my previous post, as that felony code is for someone who is 'non-drug-dependent.'

 

[sds71]

Respectfully: The case document, which details his 2 counts, refers to a sale or intent to sell "Narcotics, controlled substances and hallucinogens," and excludes marijuana. It looks very different than a typical DUI.
Also I can take 2 and 3 off my previous post, as that felony code is for someone who is 'non-drug-dependent.'

I’m referring to this:
HABIB MICHAEL J 1986 New Haven GA 23 Pre-Trial 12/02/2019 10:00 AM

N23N-CR19-0223214-S

Not these:
Description Class Type Occ Offense Date Plea Verdict Finding
21a-279(b) NONSTDNT-DRGS NEAR SCH/DAY CR A Misdemeanor 1 10/31/2019
21a-277(b(2A* INTNT SEL/DSPNS NO NRC/HAL U Felony

 

[CTGrammy]

What does statutorily sealed mean in reference to one of the charges?

A Minor child may be involved.

IMO.

 

[sds71]

When you punch that [case] in tomorrow, a box will pop up that says, ‘This file has been statutorily sealed,’ which means we can surmise he paid a fee for a diversionary program,” Russell said in a phone interview. “That’s a good piece of lawyering

Torrington school board member’s DUI case sealed in Bantam court

 

[CTGrammy]

Judge: Fotis Dulos must reveal how Norm Pattis is being paid

Above is the SA article re Judge Noble's first ruling on it--that FD must reveal how Norm Pattis is being paid.
“ However, Noble sided with Weinstein in several other rulings, requiring Fotis Dulos to reveal the financial information related to Pattis and McKenna.” I agree with you that the judge might have said--in his rulings as to whether Pattis had to reveal the info--that it would be "redundant", but he didn't say that. I assume that if Fotis didn't yet produce the records Weinstein requested--and the court ordered to be produced, by overruling def's objection--(including the retainer agreement with NP) Weinstein would've filed a motion for default on it for failure to comply with a court order. MOO

No, Judge Nobel did not say that, but it was inferred. I only used the word in my context to make it easier to understand why Nobel ruled against NP being deposed.

I have No Doubt that FD will NOT provide the documents required to determine where the money is coming from to pay everyone in Pattisville.

Weinstein Knows this all too well.

I can only hope that Dr. GF will receive a Default Judgement, but with the track record in this case, I think it will be continued and continued, well into 2020 giving FD all the chances in the world.

IMO.

 

[CTGrammy]

IMO, a likely possible explanation is that he sold narcotics or hallucinogens to a minor, so the purpose of the seal is likely to hide the minor's identity.

ETR: Deleted the last options, as it says in the document that the arrest was for a "sale or possession with intent to sell by a non drug-dependent person"

May I use your MOO attachment as my avatar?

Love your current avatar of Pepe Le Pew with big ears, smirk on his face, and is that a velvet blazer he is wearing?

IMO.

 

[Midwestmom2019]

IMO, a likely possible explanation is that he sold narcotics or hallucinogens to a minor, so the purpose of the seal is likely to hide the minor's identity.

ETR: Deleted the last options, as it says in the document that the arrest was for a "sale or possession with intent to sell by a non drug-dependent person"

Maybe he needed to make a few extra dollars for the holiday season. FD must not have paid this month’s statement that came out of the lawyer’s accounts receivable department. Imagine that: FD not paying his bills.

 

[Alathea]

May I use your MOO attachment as my avatar?

Love your current avatar of Pepe Le Pew with big ears, smirk on his face, and is that a velvet blazer he is wearing?

IMO.

Yes, feel free to use the MOO as an avatar!

Re: my avatar - thanks for asking. Why yes, yes indeed: that is a velvet blazer he's wearing. And the big smirk on his face -it's as if he thinks he's getting away with something - isn't that hilarious?

 

[CTGrammy]

Yes, feel free to use the MOO as an avatar! Re: my avatar - thanks for asking. Why yes, yes indeed: that is a velvet blazer he's wearing. And the big smirk on his face -it's as if he thinks he's getting away with something - isn't that hilarious?

Thank you. Yes, it is absolutely hilarious. Love It.