Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #32

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From reading up I see Jennifer's mom has filed a civil suit against her son-in-law. The mom's attorney wants to be able to question the nanny in connection to the lawsuit.

There is nothing to suggest the Nanny has anything directly to do with this case. It is a logical assumption that the Nanny may know things that will be helpful to Jennifer's mom in her lawsuit.

For now, I am going to say that we cannot sleuth the nanny.
If I am not understanding the situation, in this case, please email me at [email protected]
@Tricia, sorry for the confusion with the Nanny Question. There are multiple Nanny's in this case and the Nanny in question relates to FD Mama being run over by SUV in her driveway. The thread hasn't sleuthed the Nanny that was with JD at the time of her disappearance and she has just been referred to here as LA.

Here is the Avon PD Incident report on the issue for your review for the nanny we have a question about:

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.tow...11e9-b476-a34b66ae09f7/5cf84647b8a32.file.pdf

Article:
Mother of Connecticut husband arrested in connection with his wife's disappearance died in a freak accident after being run over by Land Rover driven by couple's 24-year-old 'nanny' in their driveway
 
  • #322
@Tricia, sorry for the confusion with the Nanny Question. There are multiple Nanny's in this case and the Nanny in question relates to FD Mama being run over by SUV in her driveway. The thread hasn't sleuthed the Nanny that was with JD at the time of her disappearance and she has just been referred to here as LA.

Here is the Avon PD Incident report on the issue for your review for the nanny we have a question about:

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.tow...11e9-b476-a34b66ae09f7/5cf84647b8a32.file.pdf

Article:
Mother of Connecticut husband arrested in connection with his wife's disappearance died in a freak accident after being run over by Land Rover driven by couple's 24-year-old 'nanny' in their driveway

Trisha said to email her.
 
  • #323
I wouldn't even go so far as to put the "lack of spark" in the marriage on her - not that you are doing so, but society tends to blame the 'undersexed wife.' While she mentioned she was tired - since he was gone a lot of the time, leaving her to deal with 5 kids on her own for extended periods, even with nannies - he was not an equal partner at all.

In her Patch writings, she mentions that they got away on their own a few times when he was back. Here's how romantic he was:

They went to a movie: It was an action flick he chose, that she did NOT want to see. Romantic?:

"This past Sunday we saw (not my choice) Marvel's The Avengers. ... It was awful, less for Robert Downey Jr. ... Movies used to mean so much to me." - Jennifer Dulos, May 24, 2012 1:49 pm ET

They went away another time for the weekend. She was looking forward to the peacefulness of it, just the two of them. But he binged-watched Game of Thrones the whole weekend, one after another. He bought them at the airport before even boarding the plane (making them late):

"Fotis is spending all his lovely time watching the first (and only) ten episodes of Game of Thrones on his computer. He bought it at the airport, while we were late to board. Not my fault! They were calling our names and so I parted from him and just got on the plane. He says that if they have your luggage on the flight they wait. ... So here he now is, watching episode 6, or 7?"
- Jennifer Dulos, Mar 20, 2012 12:56 pm ET

Once again, it’s all about him...thinking it was ok to hold up an entire plane full of people because he needed something that was holding him up
 
  • #324
Once again, it’s all about him...thinking it was ok to hold up an entire plane full of people because he needed something that was holding him up
I know - that really got to me, too - arrogant [REDACTED]!

And how would MOST people feel if they finally had a quiet weekend getaway with their spouse who is gone most of the year - and then that spouse buy hours of binge-worthy movies for THEM to watch, knowing the other partner is not also going to watch them - before even getting on the plane?

It was a really cold thing to do, actually.
 
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I know - that really got to me, too - arrogant [REDACTED]!

And how would MOST people feel if they finally had a quiet weekend getaway with their spouse who is gone most of the year - and then that spouse buy hours of binge-worthy movies for THEM to watch, knowing the other partner is not also going to watch them - before even getting on the plane?

Hurtful, actually.

FD wanted someone that could hangout with him and go where ever he wants to go and do everything he wants to do.

In 2010, JF was busy rearing 2 sets of twins aged 4 and 2. Exactly When was she supposed to 'make it All about FD, All the time'? JF did not have children, to just hand them over to a nanny 24/7, so that she could take care of her 'man child' 24/7.

I wonder if they ever did anything that JF Wanted, or was it Always what FD wanted?

MT is That play friend for FD, while JF was busy raising 5 children.

IMO.
 
  • #326
Out of curiosity, why are we calling JD, JF? Per family's statements , they are still calling her JD, so why are some members here calling her JF?
 
  • #327
NC Real Estate Market is having a tough go of things presently. Found this article today which I have to say was creative marketing and so if you purchase this house by a specific date you get a 3 yr lease for a Range Rover.

IMO Mr. Karp might have to get similarly 'creative' on the listing for 69/71 Welles in New Canaan.

Wow! House: Range Rover Lease Comes With Sale Of New Canaan Home
 
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If you look at the official statement she signs it as – CARRIE LUFT, ON BEHALF OF THE FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF JENNIFER FARBER DULOS. Also many women drop their married name in the midst of going they a divorce or even before but JD didn’t drop it. Just trying to bring up a point.
 
  • #330
If you look at the official statement she signs it as – CARRIE LUFT, ON BEHALF OF THE FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF JENNIFER FARBER DULOS. Also many women drop their married name in the midst of going they a divorce or even before but JD didn’t drop it. Just trying to bring up a point.
It was still her legal name, so it makes sense they'd use that. Plus it's how the MSM and public mostly knows her: as Dulos. So most people will know who they mean that way.

I personally like calling her JF (though I also have used JD or JFD) or Jennifer.

You can call her JD. Deal?
 
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It was still her legal name, so it makes sense they'd use that. Plus it's how the MSM and public mostly knows her: as Dulos. So most people will know who they mean that way.

I personally like calling her JF (though I also have used JD or JFD). So I'll continue to do so.

You can call her JD. Deal?
You’re right that’s how MSM knows her because her own Instagram account name was Jennifer Dulos also all her email addresses.
 
  • #332
You’re right that’s how MSM knows her because her own Instagram account name was Jennifer Dulos also all her email addresses.
I'm sure she had her hands full with more important things than changing instagram and email addresses (not that simple to change over while in the middle of things) in the midst of the divorce.

We don't know what she was thinking or feeling about it, though.
 
  • #333
Out of curiosity, why are we calling JD, JF? Per family's statements , they are still calling her JD, so why are some members here calling her JF?

Honestly, I prefer to call her Jennifer, because, IMO, it’s bad enough that she was murdered, and I don’t want to reduce her to a pair of initials on top of it. He, on the other hand, doesn’t deserve the respect, and will continue to be known simply as “FD” (which can stand for any number of things...)
 
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If you look at the official statement she signs it as – CARRIE LUFT, ON BEHALF OF THE FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF JENNIFER FARBER DULOS. Also many women drop their married name in the midst of going they a divorce or even before but JD didn’t drop it. Just trying to bring up a point.

She did not drop Dulos because the Divorce was not final yet, and until then, she is legally Dulos. You can't just change your name overnight, even if she wanted to do so, Before the Divorce was final. She could have, but it would be easier after the divorce.

In addition, she was the mother of 5 children with the name. I bet she wanted them to all feel some continuity, with them all having the same last name.

The family and Carrie have added Farber to her official name and I think, that is fitting.

If everyone wants to begin using JFD, I would not be opposed.

I began using JF, because to FD, JF was just a meal ticket and I did not want to associate the beautiful JF with this [REDACTED].

IMO.
 
  • #335
Honestly, I prefer to call her Jennifer, because, IMO, it’s bad enough that she was murdered, and I don’t want to reduce her to a pair of initials on top of it. He, on the other hand, doesn’t deserve the respect, and will continue to be known simply as “FD” (which can stand for any number of things...)
LOL! I can think of a few names that begin with FD!
 
  • #336
@Tricia, sorry for the confusion with the Nanny Question. There are multiple Nanny's in this case and the Nanny in question relates to FD Mama being run over by SUV in her driveway. The thread hasn't sleuthed the Nanny that was with JD at the time of her disappearance and she has just been referred to here as LA.

Here is the Avon PD Incident report on the issue for your review for the nanny we have a question about:

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.tow...11e9-b476-a34b66ae09f7/5cf84647b8a32.file.pdf

Article:
Mother of Connecticut husband arrested in connection with his wife's disappearance died in a freak accident after being run over by Land Rover driven by couple's 24-year-old 'nanny' in their driveway

Thanks....reading this there is more then one Nanny! Got I finally!!!
 
  • #337
Jennifer Dulos home listed for sale in New Canaan

NEW CANAAN — Jennifer Dulos was last seen six months ago returning to her home — which is now on the market — although the owner says he doesn’t believe she died there.

The 9,800-square-foot house situated on a quiet cul-de-sac on Welles Lane has been listed with Douglas Elliman Real Estate for $2,995,000. The six-bedroom, nine-bath home is available for purchase or rent.

“It is time to put it on the market and sell it,” said Arnold Karp, the builder and owner of the house. “Nobody is currently living there. It has all been cleared and ready for the next homeowner.”

It’s just so sad.
 
  • #338
Simply NO WORDS for Mr. Karp, who is an active local developer who IMO should know better than to make such statements publicly about what he believes happened to JF. None.

Did Mr. Karp NOT read AW2 which specifically states that the "Body" of JF left 69 Welles/71 Welles in her Suburban which was driven per AW2 by FD. AW2 didn't say that JF left sitting in the passenger seat of her Suburban while chatting about what a beautiful day it was with the driver, FD. Nope. JF IMO based on what AW2 stated did not leave 69 Welles/71 Welles alive and she was allegedly killed at the house. AW2 was absolutely unambiguous about the status of JF leaving Welles so I'm not sure what Mr. Karp is basing his statement that, "...he doesn't believe she died there".

I feel for Mr. Karp as the owner of a property where someone was allegedly murdered, but I believe for him to make assumptions about what happened to JF that are absolutely CONTRARY to those made by LE in the AW2 is simply wrong, premature and IMO irresponsible at this time. Further, to make such statements to the Press about the property and what happened to JF IMO simply defies logic for the exact same reasons.

Selling a haunted or otherwise notorious house

Quotes from Article:

Homes with this unusual problem are known as "stigmatized properties." Marc Ben-Ezra and Asher Perlin, writing for the American Bar Association, say these properties are considered to have emotional or psychological defects rather than physical ones. In other words, the home itself is in good shape but a buyer might not be comfortable purchasing it due to its reputation.

Several states have adopted laws about stigmatized properties, though there are several different definitions for this designation.

Disclosures

Stigmatized properties are not limited to homes where the doors shut themselves and ghosts are glimpsed at the end of hallways. It is much more likely that a buyer will be uncomfortable to learn that someone has been murdered, committed suicide, or died in an accident at the home. Buyers may also be deterred by properties where serious crimes took place or where the previous occupant had an infectious disease.

Buyers are more likely to be concerned with these issues when they are fresh in memory, but some reputations can be especially persistent. For example, the homes featured in "The Amityville Horror" and "In Cold Blood" are still known as the scenes of notorious multiple murders.

In Connecticut, the issues that stigmatize a property are defined as nonmaterial. As such, a seller or their agent does not have to disclose them when putting a property on the market. These parties are also protected from any action a buyer might pursue against them for not disclosing an issue related to the home's past or supposedly haunted nature.

However, the law also recognizes that such issues may be important to the buyer. It provides that the buyer can make a written request that the seller disclose any information about whether the home was the site of a murder, suicide, or felony. The seller can refuse to provide this information, but must inform the buyer in writing.

2011 Connecticut Code
Title 20 Professional and Occupational Licensing, Certification, Title Protection and Registration. Examining Boards
Chapter 392 Real Estate Brokers and Salespersons
Sec. 20-329ee. Purchaser or lessee may request written disclosure of property's status re homicide, other felony or suicide.

Sec. 20-329ee. Purchaser or lessee may request written disclosure of property's status re homicide, other felony or suicide. Notwithstanding sections 20-329cc and 20-329dd, if a purchaser or lessee of real estate, who was in the process of making a bona fide offer, advises an owner of real estate or his or her agent, in writing, that knowledge that the property was at any time suspected to have been the site of a homicide, other felony or a suicide is important to the purchaser's decision to purchase or lease the property, the owner through his or her agent shall report any findings to the purchaser or lessee, in writing subject to and consistent with applicable laws of privacy. If the owner refuses to disclose such information, his or her agent shall so advise the purchaser or lessee in writing.

(P.A. 90-141, S. 3; P.A. 02-122, S. 2.)

History: P.A. 02-122 substituted reference to a homicide, other felony or a suicide for "psychological impact" and substituted "the purchaser's" for "his".

Connecticut General Statutes > Chapter 392 > § 20-329cc
Connecticut General Statutes 20-329cc – “Nonmaterial fact concerning real property” defined
Current as of: 2018 | Check for updates | Other versions


As used in sections 20-329cc to 20-329ff, inclusive, a “nonmaterial fact concerning real property” means a fact, set of facts or circumstance surrounding real estate which includes, but is not limited to: (1) The fact that an occupant of real property is or has been infected with a disease on the list of reportable diseases, emergency illnesses and health conditions issued by the Commissioner of Public Health pursuant to section 19a-2a; or (2) the fact that the property was at any time suspected to have been the site of a death or felony.

Terms Used In Connecticut General Statutes 20-329cc
  • Felony: A crime carrying a penalty of more than a year in prison.
  • Real property: Land, and all immovable fixtures erected on, growing on, or affixed to the land.

He’s made things far worse than they might have been—in MOO. I wonder when or if people will realize that saying something is so doesn’t mean it is especially in this world of information that can be checked. I’ve got to ask: If a possible buyer learned about this, would he or she trust anything else that was said by the seller? MOO.
 
  • #339
I think he changed it thinking no one will question him about it. But obviously word got out and he cannot keep quiet about it so he spoke to the press. We actually found out about it the day he listed the house but did not say anything I guess word got to the reporters and they reached out to him .....MOO
But didn’t you see, Karp said it wasn’t about a crime at all, he never liked the original address and it was a Feng Shui thing. I mean I know the number 69 has some lewd associations and all, but “Feng Shui”, really? Blood stains on the floor doesn’t sound like such good Feng Shui to me, actually.

Karp probably realized he needed to offload it soon because once a trial or even another AW drops, then there are likely to eventually be photos of the house, the garage, the woods behind and FDs supposed approach to the house, where he was “laying in wait” all diagrammed out, plus any fingerprint evidence on doors, kitchen faucets, etc.
Then really who is going to buy it, or even want to go over there for dinner? Like, “and here is where he had dinner outside with his kids and played basketball 2 days before” and “ here is where they say he was hiding, right in this corner over here behind our Lamborghini” and “we changed the faucet out in the kitchen and actually moved the island because we wanted to change around the Feng Shui”.

Think of how Kelsey Berreth’s townhouse photos are plastered all over the media. Karp probably saw that and ran, not walked, to the Public Works office.

Final thought: for those of you who want to see how huge a difference having the leaves fallen down off the trees makes (a subject of convo here a thread or two back) scroll through the pictures in the SA article. One of the first pictures shows the house a few weeks after JDs disappearance. You can see the thick leaf cover of the woods in back that would have made it much easier for FD to sneak around back there.
The photos near the end show the house presumably within the past couple weeks. The trees in the woods behind are totally bare, and there is a huge difference in the visibility. This is true not just for someone sneaking around but also for anything that might have been discarded, like a colored tarp, an item of clothing, etc. or dropped unintentionally.
 
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