Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #32

[sds71]

The civil trial will resume on Wednesday and may continue to additional days this week. Troconis, who has been ordered to answer some deposition questions in the civil case, is scheduled to appear in Stamford court on Friday in the criminal matter.
Fotis Dulos: Had 'Good Relationship' With Missing Wife's Father

 

[kimch33kim]

Who else wants to see these new surprise invoices? besides me

 

[Aydrianna523]

I only have a little concept of what's going on. Fotis received huge amounts of money from the Farbers, and now he's claiming he doesn't have to pay back money because it was a gift.
Does it seem like a win or lose for the Farbers today?

 

[afitzy]

1. @davealtimari 2h2 hours ago
   Judge says they are going to break for the day at 4:15 so likely Dulos will be back on stand tomorrow for cross examination by Weinstein.
   
   
2. Dave Altimari‏ @davealtimari 2h2 hours ago
   Attorney Murray going through series of invoices for work Fore group did on Pound Ridge guest house that appear to show several of what Weinstein claimed were loans actually just payments to Fore group for work done at Pound ridge. Already laid out about half million in invoices.
   
   
   Reading Tweet 2, I just have to wonder at what point in his relationship with the Farber family did FD simply make the decision to not cooperate with anything having to do with JD or GF and the goal was to suck as much money out of the Farber and JD as possible? Seems like it all might have gone back to 2010 and the birth of the 5th child and certainly the point around the death of his FIL appeared pivotal too.
   
   Between the FD antics in Family Court that are so well documented to the mysterious 'invoices' that probably IMO were 'hot off the ink jet printer' or 'the photocopier at Staples', it has become painful on behalf of anyone that cared about JD or her children and Family to watch such abuse of the court system play out with FD. While we have no reason to believe the invoices are 'real', it is mind blowing that if someone was being sued for nonpayment of a debt that such items would have been submitted long long ago in this process. The discovery process for this suit has been long and gruelling for all involved so why not just protest the 'amount owed' up front when the initial claim was made? Its for this reason that I doubt whether the invoices are real as no doubt the books and records of the FIL estate have been gone through with a fine toothed comb looking to prove both the loans in existence and any repayment IMO.
   
   What is baffling though is that FD seems willing to set himself on 'fire' and torch his life down to the ground simply to prove an unknown point.
   

 

[sds71]

@FOX61News


WATCH: Fotis Dulos speaks briefly to the media after a day in court. via.fox61.com/puZJC

 

[Seattle1]

Fotis Dulos arrives in court to testify in civil case | Daily Mail Online

Dec 3, 2019

Fotis Dulos was funding a jet-set lifestyle for him and his girlfriend Michelle Troconis for years before he and his now missing wife Jennifer started divorce proceedings, it was claimed on Tuesday at a civil trial over $2.5million he allegedly owes his in-laws.

[...]

While he awaits his next court appearance in the criminal case, Dulos is simultaneously being sued by his ex-wife's mother, Gloria Farber, who says he owes her $2.5million in unpaid loans.

The lawsuit was filed in January 2018, 18 months before Jennifer disappeared.

In a risky and unorthodox move on Tuesday, Fotis decided to take the stand in that case, despite exposing himself to questions about Jennifer, their marriage and their life which could later be used against him in the criminal trial.

A forensic accountant also told the court he had been paying for flights for him, Troconis, and Troconis' son [daughter] to exotic locations since 2015 - two years before Jennifer filed for divorce.

He and Troconis had been having an affair but he resolved to save his marriage after Jennifer found out. She then later filed for divorce.

According to The New York Post, Dulos was surprised when the flights were brought up in court on Tuesday.

His criminal attorney, Norm Pattis, who was there to watch the proceedings, put his head in his hands, the newspaper reported.

Fotis himself took the stand.

He was at first questioned about his business and his relationship with his late father-in-law, Hilliard, who he said was 'like a second father to him'.

He said that in the beginning, the money was intended as a loan but that as he progressed in business, Hilliard said he no longer had to pay him back.

While it was not about Jennifer's disappearance, anything he says about their marriage could be used as part of the criminal case.

Early on Tuesday morning, his attorney Norm Pattis told CBS This Morning: 'These commercial transactions took place years ago.

'We don't think they shed any light whatsoever on the criminal allegations,' he said.

[..]

He has dismissed their claims in interviews saying he does not owe them anything.

[..]

The first witness called on Tuesday was retired attorney John Schmitt who was the executor of Jennifer's late father, Hilliard's, estate.

Next was an accountant who said in a 2016 tax return, Fotis noted in company documents a loan from Hilliard for $2million.

The next year, the accountant claims Fotis asked him to move it from accounts payable to equity. When he refused, Fotis, he alleged, had someone else do it.

 

[sds71]

NP gave interview to cbs this morning

CBS This Morning on Twitter

 

[afitzy]

In what way did he treat him as a father? In the way that some sons manipulate money out of their father, and then don’t pay it back? Is that what he means? All while he cheated on his daughter?

The only thing I can think of here other than the narcopath profile that we have talked about endlessly here is that perhaps this type of behaviour is simply the typical "Greek" way of doing business which was what FD saw growing up and so all these games, tricks and lies etc. are just par for the course in the normal day to day of business life in Greece? IDK, so much of the economic system in Greece simply seems broken and similar games to what we have seen from FD, KM and now Atty BM are simply 'ho hum' and 'no big deal' in Greece perhaps? The idea of any type of standard business practices or certainly what most might call business "Best Practices" simply don't exist in the mind of FD as the only person he cares about is himself.

If there is any good news today for Atty Weinstein I guess it would have to be that there is no real issue at all with his 'piercing the corporate veil' argument as it seems that all 3 tests to do so were in fact 'passed with flying colors' by FD as the smartest guy in the room with no concept or care of "Best Practices" in business despite having a Columbia University MBA!

Just a few examples based on information from the LA deposition in the Civil Litigation:


LA to FD: I have to take the children to school but there isn't any gas in Suburban?

FD to LA: No problem, just take the FORE GROUP CORPORATE AMEX and fill up the tank and be sure to get a trunk full of healthy snacks and juice boxes for the children!



LA to FD (in excited tone): I'm so excited to be heading to Aspen and Greece with you, Jennifer and the children. How should I pay for the tickets and all our expenses?

FD to LA (in exasperated and bored tone): L, I've explained this all to you so many times before, all these expenses are to be charged to the FORE GROUP CORPORATE AMEX as you are well aware I pay for NOTHING PERSONALLY EVER.

LA to FD: Ok, Fotis. Got it, everything gets put on the FORE GROUP CORPORATE AMEX.




LA to FD: Here is a summary of my hours for the month and I've broken them down between FORE and Babysitting.

FD to LA: Please make sure that Jennifer cuts me a check personally to cover the Babysitting amounts please and send me an email to make sure that the check gets deposited when she gives it to you.

LA to FD: Got it, Jennifer has to give me check for babysitting made out to you and then we deposit the check in your personal account?

FD to LA: Yes, its not that difficult but its very important as I am NOT paying for childcare.

MOO

 

[afitzy]

Fotis Dulos arrives in court to testify in civil case | Daily Mail Online

Dec 3, 2019

Fotis Dulos was funding a jet-set lifestyle for him and his girlfriend Michelle Troconis for years before he and his now missing wife Jennifer started divorce proceedings, it was claimed on Tuesday at a civil trial over $2.5million he allegedly owes his in-laws.

[...]

While he awaits his next court appearance in the criminal case, Dulos is simultaneously being sued by his ex-wife's mother, Gloria Farber, who says he owes her $2.5million in unpaid loans.

The lawsuit was filed in January 2018, 18 months before Jennifer disappeared.

In a risky and unorthodox move on Tuesday, Fotis decided to take the stand in that case, despite exposing himself to questions about Jennifer, their marriage and their life which could later be used against him in the criminal trial.

A forensic accountant also told the court he had been paying for flights for him, Troconis, and Troconis' son [daughter] to exotic locations since 2015 - two years before Jennifer filed for divorce.

He and Troconis had been having an affair but he resolved to save his marriage after Jennifer found out. She then later filed for divorce.

According to The New York Post, Dulos was surprised when the flights were brought up in court on Tuesday.

His criminal attorney, Norm Pattis, who was there to watch the proceedings, put his head in his hands, the newspaper reported.

Fotis himself took the stand.

He was at first questioned about his business and his relationship with his late father-in-law, Hilliard, who he said was 'like a second father to him'.

He said that in the beginning, the money was intended as a loan but that as he progressed in business, Hilliard said he no longer had to pay him back.

While it was not about Jennifer's disappearance, anything he says about their marriage could be used as part of the criminal case.

Early on Tuesday morning, his attorney Norm Pattis told CBS This Morning: 'These commercial transactions took place years ago.

'We don't think they shed any light whatsoever on the criminal allegations,' he said.

[..]

He has dismissed their claims in interviews saying he does not owe them anything.

[..]

The first witness called on Tuesday was retired attorney John Schmitt who was the executor of Jennifer's late father, Hilliard's, estate.

Next was an accountant who said in a 2016 tax return, Fotis noted in company documents a loan from Hilliard for $2million.

The next year, the accountant claims Fotis asked him to move it from accounts payable to equity. When he refused, Fotis, he alleged, had someone else do it.

Quotes from NYP Article (Kudos to the NYP on actually providing some useful information from the testimony today!!).

"The Greek real estate developer looked confused and concerned — and his lawyer put his head in his hands [this is alleged to be Atty. P. [who doesn't have a case IMO]] — in Hartford court as a witness revealed that Fotis bought flights to Fort Lauderdale and Miami in Florida, Argentina, Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands for himself, his gal pal and her daughter as far back as December 2015 [BBM].

His estranged wife filed for divorce June 2017, but the new allegations in Hartford Superior Court suggested that Fotis and Traconis were having an affair for years prior. [BBM]

All I can say to this information from Court today is that FD is "BUSTED" and I truly wonder if FD has been lying about the duration of the MT affair to his entire legal team? Why else would Atty. P. put his head into his hands?

I am very curious if the NYP reporter might have noticed what FD 'sister' response was to this information and I'm super curious if she thought that her brothers behaviour was that of a 'nice person' or perhaps that just how folks in Greece roll when they have a wealthy spouse and 5 young children?

MOO

 

[Seattle1]

Marissa Alter‏Verified account @MarissaAlter
HAPPENING TODAY: the civil trial that sets Jennifer Dulos’ mother, Gloria Farber, against her estranged husband, Fotis Dulos, begins in Hartford. Farber is suing Dulos for more than $2.5 million in back payments for loans that helped finance his home building business. @News12CT

5:57 AM - 3 Dec 2019

Marissa Alter‏Verified account @MarissaAlter
Dulos’ attorney is expected to argue he owes nothing because the money from his then-in-laws were gifts. I’ll be in court and have updates on @News12CT.

5:58 AM - 3 Dec 2019

Marissa Alter‏Verified account @MarissaAlter
Fotis Dulos has arrived at Hartford Superior Court for the start of the civil trial. Fotis is expected to take the stand & testify at some point. Defense attorney Norm Pattis is also here to ensure his client isn’t asked questions about his wife’s disappearance. @News12CT

6:21 AM - 3 Dec 2019

Marissa Alter‏Verified account @MarissaAlter
Farber/Dulos case begins with retired attorney John Schmitt taking the stand. He’s the executor of Hilliard Farber’s estate. @News12CT

7:08 AM - 3 Dec 2019

Marissa Alter‏Verified account @MarissaAlter
Next witness in the Farber/Dulos is the accountant who prepared the tax returns for the Fore Group, Fotis Dulos’ home building business. @News12CT

7:19 AM - 3 Dec 2019

Marissa Alter‏Verified account @MarissaAlter
Accountant testifies that the 2016 tax return included notation of a 2 million dollar loan from Hilliard Farber, Jennifer Dulos’ father. @News12CT

7:22 AM - 3 Dec 2019

Marissa Alter‏Verified account @MarissaAlter
The accountant also says that with the 2017 tax return, Fotis Dulos asked him to move the loan amount from accounts payable to equity. The account said he did not agree to do that so Fotis got someone else to do so and file the return. @News12CT

7:48 AM - 3 Dec 2019

Marissa Alter‏Verified account @MarissaAlter
Next witness in Farber/Dulos civil case is attorney Mark Dean, trustee gif estate set up by Gloria Farber for funds owed. @News12CT

7:54 AM - 3 Dec 2019

Marissa Alter‏Verified account @MarissaAlter
Fotis Dulos has just taken the stand. Richard Weinstein rested his case. Dulos is the first witness for the defense. Begins by talking about his business. @news12ct

9:17 AM - 3 Dec 2019

Marissa Alter‏Verified account @MarissaAlter
Fotis Dulos says Jennifer's father, Hilliard Farber, was "like a second father to me," incredibly supportive of the business, and encouraged him to start the business. @News12CT

9:19 AM - 3 Dec 2019

Marissa Alter‏Verified account @MarissaAlter
Fotis Dulos testifies that I’m the beginning, the money arrangement with Hilliard Farber contained promisorry notes. But the relationship changed as Farber gained more confidence in him. In 2010, “there was no obligation to pay any of the funds that were advanced.” @News12CT

9:59 AM - 3 Dec 2019

Marissa Alter‏Verified account @MarissaAlter
Fotis Dulos' sister is also here for the civil trial. She told us, "He’s the nicest person I know. He’s a very, very good person." When asked if he could've hurt Jennifer Dulos, she said, “Oh no, no, no, not possible. To everyone who knows him, this is obvious." @News12CT

10:57 AM - 3 Dec 2019

Marissa Alter‏Verified account @MarissaAlter
Dulos' attorney again asks Fotis about how the business relationship between him and Hilliard Farber changed. Dulos says in 2010, after the birth of his 5th child, Farber told him that in the future, "any advancements were not loans." @News12CT

11:09 AM - 3 Dec 2019

Marissa Alter‏Verified account @MarissaAlter
Dulos also says money claimed by the plaintiff as loans were actually payments to Dulos for work he did building the Farbers a guest house on their Pound Ridge, NY property. @News12CT

11:26 AM - 3 Dec 2019

Marissa Alter‏Verified account @MarissaAlter
Dulos' attorney has produced invoices that show this--invoices that appear to be a surprise to the plaintiff's attorney, Richard Weinstein. He says those were never turned over to him until this morning.

11:27 AM - 3 Dec 2019

Marissa Alter‏Verified account @MarissaAlter
Testimony has ended for the day in the Farber/Dulos civil case. It’ll start back up again tomorrow morning with Dulos back on the stand. We haven’t gotten to Richard Weinstein’s cross of Dulos yet. @News12CT

1:19 PM - 3 Dec 2019

 

[dkryder]

Another thing I am wondering about -- why wasn't the Greek guy who wired money to Mr. Farber (for FD) not able to wire money directly to Fore Group bank account??? Any ideas?

may be an attempt to bypass reporting the money on fore group documents?

 

[afitzy]

I only have a little concept of what's going on. Fotis received huge amounts of money from the Farbers, and now he's claiming he doesn't have to pay back money because it was a gift.
Does it seem like a win or lose for the Farbers today?

IMO a solid day for Atty Weinstein as he was building his case against FD. FD has nothing on paper to support his view that funds from his FIL were 'gifts'. FIL DID NOT adjust his will to reflect any change in treatment of the loans to FORE and so we are left with the word of an avowed liar as stated by Judge Heller in Family Court (AKA FD) that his FIL said any loans post 2010 were to be 'gifts'. Yep, right.

Things are just getting started as Atty Weinstein hasn't yet done his cross examination of FD (will be tomorrow) but today certainly seemed to make it clear that Fotis Dulos was funding a lavish lifestyle for himself, MT and her daughter SINCE 2015 while at the same time nickel and diming Jennifer Dulos for childcare expense reimbursement for their nanny.

It was quite stunning to hear all this given that Judge Heller called FD a 'DEADBEAT DAD' because he paid ZERO for his 5 children's upkeep and welfare from the time JD left 4Jx.

It was also quite clear from the limited tweets from Reporters that were present today that FD ran the FORE Group as his personal piggy bank and with the amount of money that he spent on MT and her daughter and what he paid himself, there was no reason in the world that he couldn't pay the small mortgage obligation he had for 4Jx (think it was interest only and less than $2,000/month) or repay the loans to his deceased FIL IF HAD WANTED TO DO SO.

FD and Atty BM 'hail mary pass' in the form of the 'hot off the press' invoices which they say represented payments made for the house FD/FORE built in Pound Ridge, NY for the Farbers in 2007/9, allegedly to the tune of $500,000 or so were produced in Court today in yet another example of 'financial alchemy' by FD. To be noted is that we have zero idea if there is any substance to the invoices and whether the invoices are 'worth the paper they are printed on' either? Could all this just be a transparent and fraudulent ploy by FD and Atty BM and so we will have to wait for cross examination to get more information on them tomorrow.

We also learned (not much as the tweets weren't detailed) about another payment from a "FD Friend" made directly to FIL Estate Office to allegedly repay FD indebtedness. IMO this entire line of questioning was quite murky so hopefully Atty Weinstein will clarify this situation tomorrow. Again, this looks highly suspicious as funds should have gone to FORE from the "FD Friend" and then paid to FIL and not paid directly to FIL. Will have to wait on clarification of this issue tomorrow too as per usual with FD and Atty BM, nothing here made much sense IMO.

What was clear also from the LA deposition IMO was that FD/FORE never took a straight line from A to B ever with regards to financial issues. FD/FORE ran his financial life as a big tax game and when his 'by the books' accountant wouldn't do what he wanted him to do with regard to the FIL loans, FD simply found a 'not by the books' IMO accountant to do what he wanted to do. The FD financial games seemed endless but the bottom line was that he seemed to do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING ALWAYS to personally enrich himself and at the expense of his wife and their 5 children.

I'd actually like to know what financial contribution FD/FORE made to the welfare and well being of JD and the 5 children EVER! My guess would be that FD/FORE gave more money to MT/her daughter than FD/FORE ever gave to JD and his 5 children. Pure speculation, but probably directionally correct IMO!

MOO

 

[Seattle1]

Who else wants to see these new surprise invoices? besides me

Sounds like typical FD arrogance/stunt to me. I'm more interested in the contemporaneous job cost records for Pound Ridge Guest House -- bring it on!

 

[Daisyeve]

may be an attempt to bypass reporting the money on fore group documents?

And how can those documents with the passport picture etc even be allowed as evidence? What trustworthy person was invited to Murray’s office when all this “evidence” came about?

 

[afitzy]

I'm curious about the ongoing MT deposition saga. Was MT deposed with the questions the Judge ordered her to answer or does she have to come to court to testify directly? I don't recall MT listed as a witness for either party.

 

[citygirl]

@FOX61News


WATCH: Fotis Dulos speaks briefly to the media after a day in court. via.fox61.com/puZJC

They show a clip of FD on the witness stand. Is it possible we will see the entire day? Thinking it must be coming. Hope so.
And, thanks to all for the updates.
RL called and , but not for all of you, I would be out of the loop!
A huge thanks and a long MOO MOO.

 

[HopeForTheBest]

FD back on stand
Dulos' attorney again asks Fotis about how the business relationship between him and Hilliard Farber changed. Dulos says in 2010, after the birth of his 5th child, Farber told him that in the future, "any advancements were not loans."
@News12CT

Defense attorney and Gloria Farber’s attorney continue to battle over SURPRISE invoices Fotis Dulos’s attorney has now presented in court
@WTNH

There is no limit to this subterfuge, is there? It’s like that black hole they just discovered. MOO.

 

[Aydrianna523]

IMO a solid day for Atty Weinstein as he was building his case against FD. FD has nothing on paper to support his view that funds from his FIL were 'gifts'. FIL DID NOT adjust his will to reflect any change in treatment of the loans to FORE and so we are left with the word of an avowed liar as stated by Judge Heller in Family Court (AKA FD) that his FIL said any loans post 2010 were to be 'gifts'. Yep, right.

Things are just getting started as Atty Weinstein hasn't yet done his cross examination of FD (will be tomorrow) but today certainly seemed to make it clear that Fotis Dulos was funding a lavish lifestyle for himself, MT and her daughter SINCE 2015 while at the same time nickel and diming Jennifer Dulos for childcare expense reimbursement for their nanny.

It was quite stunning to hear all this given that Judge Heller called FD a 'DEADBEAT DAD' because he paid ZERO for his 5 children's upkeep and welfare from the time JD left 4Jx.

It was also quite clear from the limited tweets from Reporters that were present today that FD ran the FORE Group as his personal piggy bank and with the amount of money that he spent on MT and her daughter and what he paid himself, there was no reason in the world that he couldn't pay the small mortgage obligation he had for 4Jx (think it was interest only and less than $2,000/month) or repay the loans to his deceased FIL IF HAD WANTED TO DO SO.

FD and Atty BM 'hail mary pass' in the form of the 'hot off the press' invoices which they say represented payments made for the house FD/FORE built in Pound Ridge, NY for the Farbers in 2007/9, allegedly to the tune of $500,000 or so were produced in Court today in yet another example of 'financial alchemy' by FD. To be noted is that we have zero idea if there is any substance to the invoices and whether the invoices are 'worth the paper they are printed on' either? Could all this just be a transparent and fraudulent ploy by FD and Atty BM and so we will have to wait for cross examination to get more information on them tomorrow.

We also learned (not much as the tweets weren't detailed) about another payment from a "FD Friend" made directly to FIL Estate Office to allegedly repay FD indebtedness. IMO this entire line of questioning was quite murky so hopefully Atty Weinstein will clarify this situation tomorrow. Again, this looks highly suspicious as funds should have gone to FORE from the "FD Friend" and then paid to FIL and not paid directly to FIL. Will have to wait on clarification of this issue tomorrow too as per usual with FD and Atty BM, nothing here made much sense IMO.

What was clear also from the LA deposition IMO was that FD/FORE never took a straight line from A to B ever with regards to financial issues. FD/FORE ran his financial life as a big tax game and when his 'by the books' accountant wouldn't do what he wanted him to do with regard to the FIL loans, FD simply found a 'not by the books' IMO accountant to do what he wanted to do. The FD financial games seemed endless but the bottom line was that he seemed to do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING ALWAYS to personally enrich himself and at the expense of his wife and their 5 children.

I'd actually like to know what financial contribution FD/FORE made to the welfare and well being of JD and the 5 children EVER! My guess would be that FD/FORE gave more money to MT/her daughter than FD/FORE ever gave to JD and his 5 children. Pure speculation, but probably directionally correct IMO!

MOO

Thx so much for the update. It sounds like it went good for the plaintiff, except possible invoices that may prove some monies were used for a guest house for the F's.
I can imagine the jurors (there's jurors, right?) must think, "What a user"! He got monies from F's and a friend in Greek, and seemed to have no obligation (in his mind) to his family.
Let them take care of ME!

 

[HopeForTheBest]

@SabinaKuriakose


“That’s his problem...”—Fotis Dulos says the invoices should not be a surprise to Farber’s attorney, & that they were not required in discovery. Plaintiff’s attny Richard Weinstein is irate
@WTNH

Un(redacted)believable! Weinstein being irate after all he’s seen with this group says it all. MOO.

 

[sds71]

“He was incredibly supportive,” Dulos said, adding the Fore Group also gave his father-in-law funds to invest. “He provided advice, he was always there for me and the business.”
Husband of Missing Connecticut Mom Jennifer Dulos Takes Stand in Civil Lawsuit Brought by Mother-in-Law