Deceased/Not Found CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #36

[Jacquie1]

I follow Anna’s case, too-I doubt they will ever charge her husband

Don’t say that!! I’m still hopeful.

 

[donrusty777]

Even tho I read the AW, I still get confused on the days, but I believe FD thought he had more time, that JD would simply have 'vanished' he would get the children, FD, MT, her daughter, his 5 kids, live as a faux family in one of the properties and at his leisure dispose of bags, clothing, bloody misc., as LE looked and looked and looked for the missing 'jogger' as FD went on with life as better than normal, as he started suing GF for the kids trust funds, etc., etc.

I don't think it ever crossed his mind - a silver alert would be sent out for JD as quickly as it did - or that GF would have armed guards never allowing him to see the 5 children hence forth..

If it wasn’t for the bloody mess and them on camera dumping bags I think they would get away.

I don’t think the blood and dna spread was in his plans. Something in their planning went upside down.

either that or it was just pure dumb luck they got away with hiding the body for so long.
I still don’t get it. Be a man. Fall. Then get back up and carry on. See kids grow. Even if it’s on weekends.

Greed. Arrogance and lack of gratitude will ruin many.

 

[Chloe_ee]

Ha! I was going to reference that case as well. Watts ended up having less time than FD did, on account of Shanann’s friends.

Time helps one to muddy the waters, and complete steps necessary to further a coverup.

Neither were afforded that luxury.

Time sure does help muddy the waters, but with FD, knowing that without a doubt there is no way JD body will be found, he had that. *I say this as my friend's ex was arrested in June for stalking, harassing, threatening her, in CT btw, and the ex H driving her off the road WITH their 3 children in the car...my friends incident was 1 month after JD went missing, and my friend asked LE, will JD ever be found and without missing a beat the officer said, nope, IMHO she is in deep deep water and will never be found. I remember at that time, NOT believing that, and that EVENTUALLY JD would be found...but here we are 8 months later no body..

But, what I do think was going to happen was, with JD body long gone; FD was not going to miss a beat with that "missing estranged wife business" and with the time to dispose of EVERYTHING properly and at his discretion, there would simply be NOTHING tying him to her 'disappearance' and he would keep promoting his GG theory to the kids to make them HATE her (memory)..that his plan was him, the mistress and 6 kids keep living in absolutely free luxury, private schools, nannies, back to water skiing, vacations ...he would sue Farbers, etc., etc., and keep living the lifestyle he had become accustomed to via Jennifer's wealthy father..and when people would mention his missing wife or "anything new on the wife", he would smirk and LOL...and eventually take all 5 kids, MT and her kid to Greece and peace out..

 

[afitzy]

Absolutely. JD being reported missing that soon, was not scenario that FD was banking on. He must have thought he had more time, which would have played to his benefit.

Thank God it didn’t work out that way.

It's going to be interesting to see how the missing reporting timing plays out in this Dulos case vs the other cases you all are referencing.

JFd was reported so quickly by an on point LA and her friend (and GF) and the JFd Suburban was found by 7 pm on the missing date.

Fd was called into NCPD on the day after the missing date (Saturday of Memorial Day Weekend). I think it was @MassGuy who speculated initially that probable cause to search 4Jx came from the Fd phone info. So, phone info had to be obtained, searched and then warrant request made which took some time.

The Albany Ave. search was I believe the result of info found on Fd phone and happened quickly after the 5/25 trip he made to NCPD. Albany Ave. search results also probably added to probable cause information to support further searches and this took time to process I would think. Ditto for the later search at MIRA which happened after Albany Ave.

The issue of slight delay in the searching could have been the holiday weekend or possible delays in getting search warrant approvals.

We are waiting for the search warrants to be unsealed to confirm all the dates for the searches but Fd and MT and KM did have possibly 3-4 days post missing date to be largely invisible and the first arrests didn't happen until 6/3 or 6/5 if I recall too. DNA testing in Litchfield also took a week post missing date (happened on Friday after missing date). Searching in/around Waveny Park in NC happened quickly after the missing date and lasted roughly a week. Fd main residence, 4Jx, I believe happened the Saturday and Sunday after the missing date.

I guess we won't know until trial how exactly the time gap between the missing date and the LE searches played out in terms of evidence collection. Fd was probably surprised by the speed of the Albany search efforts but there was definitely a lag IMO between when the physical searches of 4Jx, the FORE properties (80 MS, 585 DC, and 61 Sturbridge etc. happened).

MOO

 

[Caroline Lago]

Hmmmm the live stream just shows the road I wonder if he made it back or if he found another place to squat

As a CT resident, I'm especially disgusted that FD is allowed to go back home. With MURDER charges against him, they are
giving him the opportunity to take the easy way out...SUICIDE!! I would if I were him. He has lost his children, his wealth
and MT. Why on earth would he risk going to jail if he doesn't have to? He can polish off his wet bar, down some sleeping pills, and we will
never know where JD is. Way to drop the ball LE.

 

[Jmoose]

Only two days...they have years ahead staring them in the face

The first time MT was arrested, she spent one night in a much less scary place than I think she did this time, for two nights. This isn’t a woman who can tolerate incarceration, I don’t think. She appears to have an aversion to hard work and responsibility, as well as non luxurious accommodations, and she is looking at all of these things every day for years. She is sick with the thought of going to prison. I believe she is dumb enough to have thought that it would never happen, because they weren’t supposed to get caught. Fotis assured her that he was too smart for the police. And she likely thought that if she just kept lying, Andrew Bowman would be able to save her.MOO

 

[Melrose]

[QUOTE="my friend asked LE, will JD ever be found and without missing a beat the officer said, nope, IMHO she is in deep deep water and will never be found. ..[/QUOTE] Did he go out to sea, or are those "ponds" they have in CT really deep? Any locals that can answer?

 

[Kapua]

Never Say Never!

IMO the die is cast for MT as LE seemed to have stopped chatting with her since August per AW3 (whether this is true or not who knows?).

Perhaps MT does know something and it will be revealed to LE as the reality of the situation of sitting in prison for a good portion of the remainder of her life settles in.

Knowing what we know about MT do I believe we will see this? IMO Highly Doubtful.

BUT, I don't think she wants to spend that time in prison so at some point might try to find a way to cut down on time served. Issue is that I'm not sure her atty did a very good job protecting her as her credibility as a witness of any sort appears to be shot at this point. Perhaps her credibility doesn't matter if she knows where the body is located?

IDK, time will tell and we have time and KM and GV and the Greek Friends and LE still has ALOT of work to do with this ongoing investigation IMO.

MT can sit and simmer and load up on Xanax in the meantime.....

MOO

I agree. But I don't think MT has much, if anything to bargain with. LE is signaling that they intend to proceed with a no-body case, using the DNA evidence they have collected along with video evidence and eyewitness testimony. IMHO

 

[GoodWins1]

As a CT resident, I'm especially disgusted that FD is allowed to go back home. With MURDER charges against him, they are
giving him the opportunity to take the easy way out...SUICIDE!! I would if I were him. He has lost his children, his wealth
and MT. Why on earth would he risk going to jail if he doesn't have to? He can polish off his wet bar, down some sleeping pills, and we will
never know where JD is. Way to drop the ball LE.

I personally don’t see him committing suicide. He’s a narcissist and too valuable in his own mind, to ever cut his life short IMO.

 

[acedecker1]

Question for all of you. Everything below is MOO. According to arrest warrant, security cams picked up that FD left Welles Lane at 10:25 am. Its less than a 10 minute drive to Lapham Road where he left his car. If he switched the body into the Tacoma from JD's car, it had to have been QUICK to avoid being seen. Then the New Canaan rest stop camera picked up the tacoma on the Merritt at 11:12. Thats a 5 minute drive, tops, from Lapham Road. Even with all that travel time accounted for and the car switch, there is still a lot of time unaccounted for there before he left New Canaan, at least a half hour. We know that FDs company was working on 61 SH Road at the time. We also know that neighbors of 61 SH reported loud banging the morning after, and police got a warrant and searched it soon after. However, what if he dug a hole prior to showing up to her house, then after ditching her suburban in Waveny, he dropped the body in the pre-dug hole, covered it with lime and then filled the hole in. Then early the next day he filled in the cement over the hole. Pictures of the house show that when she went missing, the driveway wasn't paved. Now, the house is completed and it is listed on Zillow. Lots of patio space and concrete that could have been filled in.

So, I know the police had a warrant and already searched the property. My question is, did they bring cadaver dogs? I know some dogs can smell out human remains even through cement. If they did not bring dogs, is there any way they could have found her body if she was deep in the ground below a driveway or patio? This may have already been discussed and this is all just a random theory but I can't seem to find any information on this. Sorry if this is confusing. To summarize, I am wondering if it is at all possible that they missed finding her body at this location when they searched it? Or did he leave New Canaan with the body and I am just completely off base?

 

[afitzy]

As a CT resident, I'm especially disgusted that FD is allowed to go back home. With MURDER charges against him, they are
giving him the opportunity to take the easy way out...SUICIDE!! I would if I were him. He has lost his children, his wealth
and MT. Why on earth would he risk going to jail if he doesn't have to? He can polish off his wet bar, down some sleeping pills, and we will
never know where JD is. Way to drop the ball LE.

I totally get your disgust but sadly we are most likely going to see this eventually be taken to trial as Fd doesn't believe that the State's case against him will hold.

So, perhaps you are correct that a Fd suicide will happen at some point, but my guess is if we see that it will be much later after all his money is gone and transferred to the attorneys and the Pattisville crew has packed up their files and put Fd in their rear view mirror.

MOO

 

[Nanobody]

Did he go out to sea, or are those "ponds" they have in CT really deep? Any locals that can answer?

Not sure of the answer to this question exactly but a few years back a couple of witnesses allegedly saw a 'whale-sized' object drop into Bantam Lake, and that was never found or explained even though the lake was searched and is only 25ft deep at most. Unsure of how that is even possible though.

 

[MassGuy]

I totally get your disgust but sadly we are most likely going to see this eventually be taken to trial as Fd doesn't believe that the State's case against him will hold.

So, perhaps you are correct that a Fd suicide will happen at some point, but my guess is if we see that it will be much later after all his money is gone and transferred to the attorneys and the Pattisville crew has packed up their files and put Fd in their rear view mirror.

MOO

I’m not worried about FD taking his own life, but I am worried that KM might. It doesn’t look like he’s going to be able to post bond, so that’s definitely a plus.

But people kill themselves in jail, and I just hope he isn’t able to pull it off.

 

[afitzy]

Question for all of you. Everything below is MOO. According to arrest warrant, security cams picked up that FD left Welles Lane at 10:25 am. Its less than a 10 minute drive to Lapham Road where he left his car. If he switched the body into the Tacoma from JD's car, it had to have been QUICK to avoid being seen. Then the New Canaan rest stop camera picked up the tacoma on the Merritt at 11:12. Thats a 5 minute drive, tops, from Lapham Road. Even with all that travel time accounted for and the car switch, there is still a lot of time unaccounted for there before he left New Canaan, at least a half hour. We know that FDs company was working on 61 SH Road at the time. We also know that neighbors of 61 SH reported loud banging the morning after, and police got a warrant and searched it soon after. However, what if he dug a hole prior to showing up to her house, then after ditching her suburban in Waveny, he dropped the body in the pre-dug hole, covered it with lime and then filled the hole in. Then early the next day he filled in the cement over the hole. Pictures of the house show that when she went missing, the driveway wasn't paved. Now, the house is completed and it is listed on Zillow. Lots of patio space and concrete that could have been filled in.

So, I know the police had a warrant and already searched the property. My question is, did they bring cadaver dogs? I know some dogs can smell out human remains even through cement. If they did not bring dogs, is there any way they could have found her body if she was deep in the ground below a driveway or patio? This may have already been discussed and this is all just a random theory but I can't seem to find any information on this. Sorry if this is confusing. To summarize, I am wondering if it is at all possible that they missed finding her body at this location when they searched it? Or did he leave New Canaan with the body and I am just completely off base?

No, IMO you aren't off base at all. Sadly we have few answers on Sturbridge property from LE and it was released back to Fd relatively quickly after it was seached.

On an earlier thread we posted pics of Sturbridge around the missing date (a few weeks after) and all the landscaping and driveway/masony work was not complete.

I actually was there one day when the CSP Crime Lab Van and team was processing Sturbridge (I believe they were there multiple times but we won't know exact details until the search warrants are unsealed).

BUT, it never appeared that any excavation work happened at Sturbridge and I agree with you this this is unfortunate. We don't know whether dogs went to Sturbridge (we only saw specialised dogs in Waveny). We don't know the forensic testing that happened at Sturbridge BUT we do know the property was released quickly back to Fd and he was there with relatives cleaning out the property to ready it for sale. We also don't know if the noise heard by neighbours was the large dumpster being tipped in the early morning hours or possibly something else. LE has never provided updates on any of these questions about Sturbridge. We have no idea if JFd DNA has been found anywhere at Sturbridge.

MOO

 

[afitzy]

I’m not worried about FD taking his own life, but I am worried that KM might. It doesn’t look like he’s going to be able to post bond, so that’s definitely a plus.

But people kill themselves in jail, and I just hope he isn’t able to pull it off.

I too am worried about KM as his downward spiral has been ongoing in a major way for the past 18 months at least. Perhaps his being in prison will allow at least for him to be under observation. Not convinced that he has the strength or health to go the distance here and that is unfortunate on many levels IMO.

 

[dkryder]

i'd be interested in hearing more about this deal FD, or NP, made with the bail bond company. it was reported that a friend supplied $~147K, [hope that's right] and then the bond company was to handle the rest? that on the surface looks like a real sweet arrangement considering it was supposed to be $~420K the bond company had to cover.

 

[sds71]

Video obtained by
@FOX61News
show a suspicious person outside the home of Kent Mawhinney’s estranged wife.
@pd_southwindsor
called it an, “uncorroborated criminal complaint,” and did not comment further.

 

[citygirl]

Sounds like he is home. No video yet.

 

[spaz1959]

IMO, FDoo, MTramp, and KMashuggah know how Jennifer was attacked, killed, remains deposed of and exactly where. They know absolutely every single detail. They all participated from the planning on how to kill Jennifer, to knowing who made the fatal strike. All 3 stooges can at anytime, anytime offer this info to LE. All 3 choose not to.

 

[Nanobody]

Vlad_the_inhaler on Twitter
FD returning to 4JX