Deceased/Not Found CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #36

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  • #861
Following Tuesday’s arrest of Foits Dulos for the murder of his wife Jennifer Farber Dulos, state Sen. Alex Bergstein, D-Greenwich, announced Friday plans for legislation intended to redefine how cases of domestic violence and abuse are handled Connecticut family court.
“Jennifer Dulos was my constituent,” said Bergstein, vice chair of the judiciary committee. “We stand here today seeking justice for Jennifer.”
With support from the Connecticut Protective Moms, an advocacy group, Bergstein explained the key points of the proposed “Child Safety First Bill" at a news conference in New Haven. The Connecticut Protective Moms support mothers who are in the midst of divorce proceedings.
The bill seeks to expand the statutory definition of domestic violence or abuse to account for a person’s history of “coercive, controlling behavior.” Among physical violence or sexual assault, coercive behaviors include financial, emotional, and psychological abuse.
The bill would also make abuse “the first factor assessed by the court” in determining custody and the “best interests of the child.”
Evan Stark, who authored the book on coercive control, explained how abusers maintain control over a partner not only through violence, but through threats to take away or harm their children. The United Kingdom passed laws based on Stark’s work in 2015.
“The fundamental principle about which all of us are concerned is that people should have equal rights to liberty, equality, and dignity. That’s what’s on the table, for children as well as women,” he said Friday.
when courts give custody of the children to a parent who has committed domestic violence, Stark said it “puts the children into indentured servitude, taking away their rights to liberty and dignity.”
A recent study conducted by domestic violence expert Joan S. Meyer at Georgetown found through an analysis of 2000 cases that “courts are skeptical of mothers’ claims of abuse by fathers [and] this skepticism is greatest when mothers claim child abuse.” Such claims of abuse may hurt the mother’s chances of gaining custody of her own children.
As a result, advocates for the bill said parents may be forced to share custody with an abuser while enduring years in family court to finalize a divorce. Farber Dulos’ own divorce case stretched on for two years. In court transcripts, she said her husband "expects to exhibit complete control over me and the children.”
Dulos, through his lawyer Norm Pattis, has denied any involvement in the disappearance or death of Jennifer Farber Dulos. Pattis called it a “tragic mystery,” and accused Bergstein of “crisis-mongering.”
Hysteria is not a sound basis for public policy,” he said.
“This is a crisis. Domestic abuse and violence has been a crisis forever,” responded Bergstein. "And I would say that anybody who uses the word hysteria in the context of speaking about a women is attacking the credibility of all women.”
The Dulos divorce case had hundreds of motions filed in family court over a number of years, said Bergstein.
“Such cases are often labeled as ‘high-conflict,’ but that is a misnomer," she said. "These cases are often the result of abusers weaponizing the legal system to harass, intimidate, and destroy the person who dared to leave.”

Pointing to Dulos case, state Sen. Alex Bergstein announces new legislation to reform family court
 
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Advocates against domestic violence said it is common for abusers to continuously file motions to keep dragging victims back to court.

“I’ve asked judges what the standard for frivolous motions is in Connecticut, and the answer I got was, ‘Well they have to be frivolous,' which means there’s really no standard,” said Bergstein. “Yes, everyone is entitled to due process, but there have to be limitations. Due process cannot be used to harass, intimidate, and destroy someone else.”

She added that such cases waste taxpayer money, as they “consume an enormous amount of judicial resources.”
As part of the Child Safety First Bill, if a parent is found to have committed domestic violence or child sexual abuse, that abuser will have to pay the attorney’s fees and all other court-related expenses of the other parent. Findings of domestic violence or sexual abuse of the children would also be grounds against awarding the abusive parent custody.
Model legislation has already been passed in Louisiana, and the movement to reform family court is gaining prominence in Maryland, California, and several other states said Danielle Pollack, an ambassador for Child USA.

Pollack is currently working to pass “Kayden’s Law” in Pennsylvania, named after a child who was murdered by her father during a court-ordered visit despite the mother’s claims that he was abusive.

“Connecticut now can lead with this [Child Safety First] bill,” she said. “It’s an opportunity for Connecticut to catch up and be at the forefront of the reforms that need to take place in family court, so that children and their protectors are properly protected.”

Bergstein said she has already informed her colleagues in the judiciary committee about the bill and will send them an official letter with the concept draft attached. In the upcoming “short session” of the state legislature in February, she said individual legislators cannot introduce a bill, only committees.

“It would really be up to the leadership of the judiciary committee,” she said. “Given the public support and awareness of this issue, I hope that they will take it seriously and propose the bill.”
 
  • #863
After re-reading the AW3 of FoDU, you cannot discount dismemberment as a possibility. The number of bags in the Raptor seen on C4 camera, it appears as though only two were recovered from the AW3 but not necessarily. What disturbs me is the mentions of cut clothing and torn bags or multiple pieces of bags. That might lend itself to the idea that she was bagged and then dismembered. But again that's not proof of anything. Bags could have torn or ripped for other reasons but when I read about JD DNA that isn't referred to as BLS or bloodlike stain I started thinking more and more along those lines unfortunately as it being a real possibility.
He may have zip tied her inside the garbage bags thinking that would contain the mess ?
I think if there was a speck of tissue found at MIRA this is what happened IMO
 
  • #864
Because the two parties in a lawsuit will always disagree about if the other side has exactly complied with every clause in a discovery request or case management order. Mistakes happen everyday. Misunderstandings happen everyday. Judges cannot be expected to memorize every deadline in every order in every case and unilaterally punish parties they find to be non-compliant. That would leave them no time to actually do their jobs of interpreting what the law says. Have you ever read a case management order? What you guys are suggesting is impossible unless you'd like to hire about 100 judges for each judge currently on the bench. That's why parties are left to file motions for contempt or sanctions. That's how the system works.
I will certainly concede that you know the legal system and I don’t. I have heard many times that judges are overwhelmed with cases. It just cries out to me that our legal system, though the best in the world, is in need of an overhaul. Just the time it takes to get a case to actual court in insane.

I also agree a protective order won’t stop anyone determined to kill you or do you harm.

Thats the reason I never want my second amendment right taken from me.
 
  • #865
I’m now wondering if perhaps FD had on one of the panchos under his hoodie when he was peddling his vintage Mercier Childhood bike made in France to his estranged wife’s house to ambush, kidnap and murder her.
 
  • #866
He may have zip tied her inside the garbage bags thinking that would contain the mess ?
I think if there was a speck of tissue found at MIRA this is what happened IMO
The conspicuous absence of MIRA from AW3 has me curious. I doubt tissue was found for the sheer fact that I would think it would be mentioned when arguing that JFd could not have survived.
 
  • #867
Dismemberment is hard, bloody work. Not sure fd could manage it by himself, not sure if he could handle the struggle of a fresh corpse: moving it, balancing it, the purge, & the "strength" of body tissues: ligaments, muscles & bones. Just as a "teaching tool", picture yourself disarticulating a raw large turkey....

Given this, I'm curious what you think he did with her body / body parts? I wonder if they were able to closely track his movements post the night of the 26th?
 
  • #868
Given this, I'm curious what you think he did with her body / body parts? I wonder if they were able to closely track his movements post the night of the 26th?
This is a good question. That's something you lose when you take a suspect's phone: their ping history.
 
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I'm wondering why the bicycle didn't show up on the Welles camera that captured the Suburban. Also, where on Weed Street was the bicycle caught on the video? I'm wondering if Fd rode it down Indian Waters drive and came in through the woods. It's easier and less treacherous than taking Weed St to Frogtown. And he wouldn't have to time coming in through the front driveway and pass the cameras. IMO.
BBM: I think you are right. That is how I believe the route went. I studied some google satellite images and maps and that is what makes sense. There is a certain back way to the house that is fairly wooded. There was a rumor here posted by someone that LE had video of FD behind WL. Maybe the video referenced in the AW is what the poster was referring to. Or maybe there is an even better video closer to JD house that we haven't heard about.
 
  • #870
wouldn't be surprised if FD is reading these threads on WS. Mark Sievers read his case threads... JMO
The creep let him read - he is not the GQ dude he thinks he is. We all see thru him and his inside ugliness shines thru to his outside appearance, just repulsive to look at and better still he is so low class, with a low class girlfriend not the upper crust he was trying for, far from it. Enjoy house arrest jail time will be painful.
 
  • #871
Yes I'm behind, unlike Fd & MT some people go to work. Pray tell why do they need specific release-from-home instructions for "work?" Neither one does any work!

Maybe FD sold the rights to a book, LOL.

Dear Lord I hope not...some states have laws to prevent profit from a crime, does Connecticut???

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Sing with me:

Do the Perp Walk in that Yellow Tuxedo,
Yellow Tuxedo,
Yellow Tuxedo!

Do the Perp Walk in that Yellow Tuxedo....
 
  • #872
The cut shirt and bra still baffle me, especially since there is no mention of other articles of clothing, like pants.

Why cut off her clothing?

Being able to SEE the joints for dismemberment is one option, I guess. I haven't come up with any option that really makes sense to me.

If he buried her in an unmarked grave, why cut off her clothes? If he weighted her down in water, why cut off her clothes? If he dissolved her with chemicals, why cut off her clothes?

I feel like I'm missing something.

And yes, I'm aware the clothes could've been cut off in some sexual assault scenario, but I don't think FD had the time to really do much beyond the attack and cleanup, and I'm not convinced JFd left NC alive.

Sadly, I get the feeling there was some sort of torture scenario here. This was a crime fueled by rage. I'm also not convinced that she was dead the night of the 26th, despite them throwing away bloody evidence, but I guess it is most likely.

I also think Michelle was very involved / participatory. imo.
 
  • #873
Does anyone else spend half of their time here deciphering acronyms, lol? I'm off topic.
 
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I'm wondering why the bicycle didn't show up on the Welles camera that captured the Suburban. Also, where on Weed Street was the bicycle caught on the video? I'm wondering if Fd rode it down Indian Waters drive and came in through the woods. It's easier and less treacherous than taking Weed St to Frogtown. And he wouldn't have to time coming in through the front driveway and pass the cameras. IMO.

That soinds right, there is a network private home drives linked to streets other drives by informal paths from the Tacoma parking spot Lapham to Welles.

Why is this man on bail?
 
  • #875
Given this, I'm curious what you think he did with her body / body parts? I wonder if they were able to closely track his movements post the night of the 26th?
Hypothesis: he struggled with her, hit her head, copious blood flow, dizzy JFD interacted with the vehicles trying to get away, he violently hit her again & again, she hit the ground & he pummeled her face. He was overwhelmed by the amt of blood & damaged body tissues, tries to clean up. "Packages" her with the zip ties & possibly her clothing, bagged her & buried somewhere. IMO
 
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Hypothesis: he struggled with her, hit her head, copious blood flow, dizzy JFD interacted with the vehicles trying to get away, he violently hit her again & again, she hit the ground & he pummeled her face. He was overwhelmed by the amt of blood & damaged body tissues, tries to clean up. "Packages" her with the zip ties & possibly her clothing, bagged her & buried somewhere. IMO

So, buried her entire body. Maybe, but why can't they find her? It is curious that they don't appear to have looked for her too extensively, as if they know she can't be recovered. If she is buried, what about the location? They know his movements to the letter that day. I can't believe lawyer friend buried her, but maybe. Just thoughts.
 
  • #877
Respectfully, not all attorneys obey the law. Not all Doctors do no harm. Not all clergy members do not sin. You would think an educated person wouldn't make such awful decisions. Yet, here we are.

You'd think so, but as you say, here we are.
 
  • #878
Following Tuesday’s arrest of Foits Dulos for the murder of his wife Jennifer Farber Dulos, state Sen. Alex Bergstein, D-Greenwich, announced Friday plans for legislation intended to redefine how cases of domestic violence and abuse are handled Connecticut family court.

(DBM for brevity)

“Such cases are often labeled as ‘high-conflict,’ but that is a misnomer," she said. "These cases are often the result of abusers weaponizing the legal system to harass, intimidate, and destroy the person who dared to leave.”

Pointing to Dulos case, state Sen. Alex Bergstein announces new legislation to reform family court

That bolded statement above, is certainly FD's tactics, finally murdering Jennifer.
MOO.
 
  • #879
"Why Cut Off Her Clothes?"
Very few murders include cutting off clothes,
that I could find, except here's one- Serial Killer
Danny Rolling killed and bound several victims,
cut off their clothes before sexually assaulting
their dead bodies. He always bound their hands.
133 - Made of Crystals
 
  • #880
I also think he buried her; I think he had a deal cooked up with his attorney friend (KM) that both their soon to be exes would disappear, and two graves were dug.

Since KM's wife did not disappear and the one grave was found, JFD is in the other one (imo). Can't think of another reason an attorney would place himself in the middle of all this, at their property when the deed was being accomplished with an alibi phone call for FD coming in, unless something was in it for him (help with his wife's disappearance/death).

Mooo

But we don't really know that he is involved. I think it's possible that the defense will use lawyer friend Kent to simply create doubt for the jury. That's all they need.

I do find the concussion and fall and phone going missing on the 25th to be important and odd. I also can't believe this dual wife murdering scheme. It's too ridiculous. imo.
 
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