Deceased/Not Found CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #37

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  • #141
So Fd called KM when the arrests were imminent...and how likely was it that NP was in the room with Fd when the call was made? I think NP was there, and approved the phone call that was intended to put KM on the run. Why aren’t these two being charged (Fd again) with obstruction if justice?
 
  • #142
So he could have dismembered her right there in the garage. But then what would the the purpose of the extra long zip ties?
MOO could he have spent some of the time in the garage torturing her,(after restraining her with the zip ties), to get info for the location of something he needed or wanted ? Did he take anything from her purse? Did he get more furious because she wouldn’t tell him because it would mean danger for the children and the attack became more brutal than the quick killing he planned for? If he was in there for over two hours he didn’t spend the whole time cleaning.MOO
 
  • #143
So Fd called KM when the arrests were imminent...and how likely was it that NP was in the room with Fd when the call was made? I think NP was there, and approved the phone call that was intended to put KM on the run. Why aren’t these two being charged (Fd again) with obstruction if justice?

I "knew" when KM ran that Fd called him....he (Fd) only had 10-15 minutes according to NP....He spent some time calling KM just cause he's an innocent buddy??...Yeah, right. I'm also sure that NP knew for whom the third warrant was issued. I wonder what their (NP and Fd's) intent was in calling KM...???

And, they should be charged with something...MOO
 
  • #144
So Fd called KM when the arrests were imminent...and how likely was it that NP was in the room with Fd when the call was made? I think NP was there, and approved the phone call that was intended to put KM on the run. Why aren’t these two being charged (Fd again) with obstruction if justice?
And would KM destroying his phone, if he in fact did, be Tampering with Evidence?
 
  • #145
BBM: In my opinion, the Gone Girl theory came up later when FD hired NP. I hadn't imagined that FD was planning on going with that idea until he was busted in the Albany Ave debacle and had to grasp for straws. I could be wrong though.
I am still on the fence about dismemberment but I think if he did do that it wasn't in the garage.
Thing is, a stranger doesn't kill someone in their own home and then take the body somewhere. Body stays at the home. FD HAD to know the amount of blood was so great that it could never be just that JD was abducted at the park or disappeared on her own. I believe there wasn't meant to be blood at all therefore, no dismemberment in garage. I seriously doubt FD was hands on with the tanning business. More like he supervised others or hung out there. I don't know how it worked back then in Greece, but I researched some and hides are usually delivered to the tannery already cut from the carcass. I don't think FD was dismembering anything in Greece.

I wonder if the crime had been bloodless where the case would be right now. Would there even have been a murder arrest? I will have to think more about that. Any thoughts?
 
  • #146
And would KM destroying his phone, if he in fact did, be Tampering with Evidence?
Someone should just start keeping a list of Charges Noted BUT NO CHARGES MADE!s,

MT lying to LE for months, Fd assisting KM to work around the KM STBX no contact order, Fd Family assisting to work around the no contact order for the 5 Dulos children, Fd no shows in Civil Case, Fd lying on the stand in Family Court, KM evading LE on the arrest date when he knew an arrest warrant was in place, and GAL Meehan providing sealed psych report draft to Fd atty which ended up being released by Atty. P. to the Press.

The list can go on and on IMO!

Situation IMO is becoming ridiculous.

I also keep thinking about MT lying to LE for so many months. In most places the act of lying to LE would be punished with charges, but yet in CT lying to LE seems to be ok.

What I still don't understand is the MT lying didn't just happen once, it happened on 3 occasions. Each of these 3+ hr long sessions (estimated based on time of the 1 session that we are aware of as the press were outside) generated a lot of LE work to verify what was being said by MT. Why no charges?

MOO
 
  • #147
This is probably in the AW, but can someone quickly clarify: Did the nanny see JD's purse on the floor? If so, I'm confused as to why she wouldn't have called 911 right then and there.
To me it suggests it didn't strike her as too off- maybe explainable or a minor mystery like why is the RR in the garage, and what happened to all the paper towels? At least until her heart sank.
 
  • #148
Thanks for posting the link. In the last photo, #23, an aerial view shows the back of the house along with garage doors. The back door into the mudroom is recessed and out of view but, to me, there appears to be a key pad on the left-hand side of the frame of the middle garage door.

It will not surprise me if Fd asked one of the children to give him the key code. The man is a master manipulator. The emotional harm he has inflicted is worthy of the death penalty.

JMO
Good point. I would not be surprised if he was in the house when he attacked JD. I wonder if he could have chloroformed her inside and then dragged her to the garage. MOO
 
  • #149
Good point. I would not be surprised if he was in the house when he attacked JD. I wonder if he could have chloroformed her inside and then dragged her to the garage. MOO
IMO
There was so much blood that LE has concluded she died from a traumatic injury and did not survive, the chloroform would enable him to kill her without blood. There has been talk of a knife found by a homeless man Fudge in the garbage on Albany Ave. I think FD used a knife and there was a struggle, and then maybe she got away and he bludgeoned her to finish the job. But he anticipated no blood I think he was planning on sliting her throat and having her go down easy and that just did not happen and there was a large amount of blood from a head wound and possibly brain matter splattered - thus the conclusion of LE that she could not have survived.
I agree he could have been in the house and they ended up in the garage??
The poor soul, she knew he was pure evil and the courts just didn't listen.
Who in their right mind is afraid of their ex?
Only someone has has been a victim of DV, the rest of the male population are good men, he is not.
This all sounds like a modern day Clue Game just so surreal.
IMO
 
  • #150
This is probably in the AW, but can someone quickly clarify: Did the nanny see JD's purse on the floor? If so, I'm confused as to why she wouldn't have called 911 right then and there.

She said it was on the floor in the doorway between the mudroom & the kitchen. I took this to mean it was sitting upright like someone neatly set it down (vs. being on it's side or with the contents spilled out like it dropped during a struggle) so while it seemed kind of odd to her, it didn't set off immediate "omg something is really wrong here" alarm bells.
 
  • #151
Good point. I would not be surprised if he was in the house when he attacked JD. I wonder if he could have chloroformed her inside and then dragged her to the garage. MOO
I think he already was in the house when she arrived home. I don't believe he used chloroform because if he did, no need for the tie restraints. I think he wanted JD to know that it was him and he intended to punish her for defying him.

JMO
 
  • #152
MOO could he have spent some of the time in the garage torturing her,(after restraining her with the zip ties), to get info for the location of something he needed or wanted ? Did he take anything from her purse? Did he get more furious because she wouldn’t tell him because it would mean danger for the children and the attack became more brutal than the quick killing he planned for? If he was in there for over two hours he didn’t spend the whole time cleaning.MOO
I never considered him to torturing her. Omg, I hope not.
For some reason I just see him hiding in a corner, or a closet in the garage with an axe or knife in his hand.
I would imagine his adrenaline would be running high or at least should have been, and he would want to get the dirty deed done ASAP and get out of there. So I don’t know how much time he wanted to spend there torturing her.
 
  • #153
Hi. Been gone all day. Was KM able to make bail today? I certainly hope he doesn’t.
 
  • #154
Thing is, a stranger doesn't kill someone in their own home and then take the body somewhere. Body stays at the home. FD HAD to know the amount of blood was so great that it could never be just that JD was abducted at the park or disappeared on her own. I believe there wasn't meant to be blood at all therefore, no dismemberment in garage. I seriously doubt FD was hands on with the tanning business. More like he supervised others or hung out there. I don't know how it worked back then in Greece, but I researched some and hides are usually delivered to the tannery already cut from the carcass. I don't think FD was dismembering anything in Greece.

I wonder if the crime had been bloodless where the case would be right now. Would there even have been a murder arrest? I will have to think more about that. Any thoughts?
In the absence of a body, blood evidence is a strong indicator of murder. Without the blood, evidence of a cleanup, and video of FD and MT dumping evidence in an area where they are not known, LE would have a much harder time making their case. However, IMHO, FD was sloppy enough to put the noose around his own neck, figuratively speaking. MOO
 
  • #155
To me it suggests it didn't strike her as too off- maybe explainable or a minor mystery like why is the RR in the garage, and what happened to all the paper towels? At least until her heart sank.
...and why did Jennifer leave the door unlocked?
 
  • #156
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In the absence of a body, blood evidence is a strong indicator of murder. Without the blood, evidence of a cleanup, and video of FD and MT dumping evidence in an area where they are not known, LE would have a much harder time making their case. However, IMHO, FD was sloppy enough to put the noose around his own neck, figuratively speaking. MOO


That is what NP is thinking, he will bring a huge effort to supress those instances of evidence.

He will attack everyones credibility.
The precise situation of FD calling KM should be sorted out and charged if NP had a hand in the tip off call.
MOO DA should be proactive in this regard.
 
  • #157
In the absence of a body, blood evidence is a strong indicator of murder. Without the blood, evidence of a cleanup, and video of FD and MT dumping evidence in an area where they are not known, LE would have a much harder time making their case. However, IMHO, FD was sloppy enough to put the noose around his own neck, figuratively speaking. MOO
Yeah, no blood and the Hartford run is eliminated.
 
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My buddy turned himself in to Stamford courthouse (non violent crime) the same day FD was there. Interestingly enough, he was locked up next to him. Everything you see on tv is how he is- calm, cool, collective. He mentioned that FD seems to not have a care in the world. FD mentioned multiple times he would be making bail. He wouldn’t answer any questions about the case, all he would say is to “value your freedom”. Of course to no ones surprise he received special accommodations while he was in there.

My friend is now at BCC where KM is. He’s still in there and is secluded by himself due to the nature of his charges as well as his high bond. Crazy stuff
 
  • #160
IMO
There was so much blood that LE has concluded she died from a traumatic injury and did not survive, the chloroform would enable him to kill her without blood. There has been talk of a knife found by a homeless man Fudge in the garbage on Albany Ave. I think FD used a knife and there was a struggle, and then maybe she got away and he bludgeoned her to finish the job. But he anticipated no blood I think he was planning on sliting her throat and having her go down easy and that just did not happen and there was a large amount of blood from a head wound and possibly brain matter splattered - thus the conclusion of LE that she could not have survived.
I agree he could have been in the house and they ended up in the garage??
The poor soul, she knew he was pure evil and the courts just didn't listen.
Who in their right mind is afraid of their ex?
Only someone has has been a victim of DV, the rest of the male population are good men, he is not.
This all sounds like a modern day Clue Game just so surreal.
IMO
Why would someone think that slitting someone's throat would be bloodless? Here is commentary by Michael Baden:
'Game of Thrones' -- Throat Cutting Is TOTALLY UNREALISTIC ... Says O.J. Simpson's Witness
Have you ever seen the Simpson/Goldman crime scene photos? That's alot of blood.
MOO.
 
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