Deceased/Not Found CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #37

[BellaVita]

For some reason this made me wonder...did FD take KM's phone and break it? It was broken on the 25th, right? I somehow feel like all roads lead to FD, I guess.

I am not buying the fall down the stairs/concussion/breaking phone story. Nope, that didn't happen. More story-time stories a la FD/NP.

My opinion only.

Well, he is smarter than FD who handed his phone over. LOL.

 

[Alathea]

Since they have his call records from this period I wonder if they can tell when he last used his phone before it broke and he had to get a new phone... Hypothetically maybe they could be able to tell if the phone broke before or after Fd had his phone taken away and if it did happen after that, then what calls came into KM's phone in the interim.

MOO

According to AW/KM's words, he broke the screen, not the phone. One does not need to replace a phone due to a broken screen - yet, that's what he said he did.

Also, one usually has a backup of phone data, and if not, the phone or internet co. usually does.

Wonder if there is a hospital record of his supposed concussion.

 

[Nanobody]

Sorry, my mistake! The way I read the AW made me think he replaced it instead of fixing it.

Well we now know that Fd could have access to EE dirt bike as well.

This gives access to locations IMO that might not be easily accessible by foot and also is faster than jogging.

It makes sense that so much of LE searching took place near the reservoirs adjacent to 4Jx.

Yes, lots of trails back there! Seems like a likely place to find poison ivy as well.

Fd has a motor bike listed on his Farmington tax records too, so there were likely at least two available for most of the day on 5/24.

 

[afitzy]

Contrary to popular conceptions, concrete is porous. JMO.

Yes, that is what I was trying to get at.

But, what I have seen is that people put sealers on top of the concrete. I agree that these sealers doesn't create an absolute perfect barrier but it could mean that perhaps blood seepage into the concrete was not uniform.

I was also trying to understand why the concrete floor wasn't partially removed by LE if there was forensic material in the concrete? Does this mean that they were able to get what they needed from remaining matter that was on top of the concrete?

Also, the issue of Fd using bleach for his clean up in the garage and I was trying to understand the forensic impact of the bleach not only on the floor but the walls as well.

Sorry for lack of clarity.

MOO

 

[andalso]

Regarding the zip ties:

Would FD have a reason to remove the zip ties to facilitate Jennifer's disposal, aside from for dismemberment?

If the zip ties were cut off Jennifer, could FD not wanting the zip ties on tell us anything one way or another about if Jennifer was or wasn't placed in water? Certainly, there have been many water searches.

Removal of the zip ties must have had a purpose for FD. Why remove them if planning to place her in a pre-dug grave? More likely to remove them if, maybe, trying to cram her remains into something?

I wouldn't put it past FD to put her remains in a cooler and weigh it down.

So, just to be clear on where I am at.
I think Jennifer could be...in CT or not, in NY or not, in MA or not, in water or not, in a pre dug grave or not, dismembered or not. I wish I had an actual clue and I can't imagine how the family and loved ones are handling this torture.

 

[andalso]

Well, he is smarter than FD who handed his phone over. LOL.

Great point, hahaha!

 

[Alathea]

Sorry, my mistake! The way I read the AW made me think he replaced it instead of fixing it.


Yes, lots of trails back there! Seems like a likely place to find poison ivy as well.

Fd has a motor bike listed on his Farmington tax records too, so there were likely at least two available for most of the day on 5/24.

Re: KM's phone being replaced:
It wasn't your mistake at all - you got it right. The AW did say he replaced it instead of fixing it, which doesn't make sense... unless, of course, one is hiding evidence!

 

[sds71]

9 Connecticut Attorneys Disciplined | Connecticut Law Tribune

I wonder if they were going to name 10 until they did the interview with Pattis

Nine Connecticut attorneys faced penalties after ethics charges, according to the latest roundup of attorney discipline cases.
The sanctions included suspensions, presentments, reprimands and discipline with conditions, according to the Statewide Grievance Committee’s December report, released Friday.
Here’s a look at the attorneys, listed alphabetically, whose ethics charges led to court actions.

 

[afitzy]

9 Connecticut Attorneys Disciplined | Connecticut Law Tribune

I wonder if they were going to name 10 until they did the interview with Pattis

Nine Connecticut attorneys faced penalties after ethics charges, according to the latest roundup of attorney discipline cases.
The sanctions included suspensions, presentments, reprimands and discipline with conditions, according to the Statewide Grievance Committee’s December report, released Friday.
Here’s a look at the attorneys, listed alphabetically, whose ethics charges led to court actions.

@sds71, No Atty. P. or Pattisville?

Couldn't get behind paywall.

 

[BellaVita]

Yes, that is what I was trying to get at.

But, what I have seen is that people put sealers on top of the concrete. I agree that these sealers doesn't create an absolute perfect barrier but it could mean that perhaps blood seepage into the concrete was not uniform.

I was also trying to understand why the concrete floor wasn't partially removed by LE if there was forensic material in the concrete? Does this mean that they were able to get what they needed from remaining matter that was on top of the concrete?

Also, the issue of Fd using bleach for his clean up in the garage and I was trying to understand the forensic impact of the bleach not only on the floor but the walls as well.

Sorry for lack of clarity.

MOO

Well, doubt he threw bleach on the walls. Did JD have bleach on hand? I don't have it in my own house. LE must have gotten what they needed without removing the floor. Whether the main blows were to carotid artery by slitting JD throat or bashing her on the head with a bat, FD likely did not understand the fine blood spray that would go everywhere unseen by the naked or unpracticed eye. The AW stated spatter caused by an external object. That is bludgeoning, IMO. I don't think paper towels are going to clean up everything. Blood spray can go everywhere. Even up to the ceiling. JD must have fought very hard for her life. I can't imagine that this was supposed to be anything more than strangulation. I don't believe FD wanted to get down and dirty with blood. MOO.
ETA: FD did not watch enough Dateline/48 Hours Mystery

 

[sds71]

@sds71, No Atty. P. or Pattisville?

Couldn't get behind paywall.

nope
maybe they are going to a special Dulos Attorney Spread

 

[LosAngeles]

My buddy turned himself in to Stamford courthouse (non violent crime) the same day FD was there. Interestingly enough, he was locked up next to him. Everything you see on tv is how he is- calm, cool, collective. He mentioned that FD seems to not have a care in the world. FD mentioned multiple times he would be making bail. He wouldn’t answer any questions about the case, all he would say is to “value your freedom”. Of course to no ones surprise he received special accommodations while he was in there.

My friend is now at BCC where KM is. He’s still in there and is secluded by himself due to the nature of his charges as well as his high bond. Crazy stuff

Admirable that your friend took responsibility to turn himself in for an infraction that he caused. Honestly. Sadly, he had to meet up with FD who seems to feel entitled on so many levels to skirt responsibility for his missing wife. So wrong, on so many levels.

 

[afitzy]

Video: Legal analyst weighs in on 3 arrests linked to disappearance of Jennifer Farber Dulos

Murder vs. Conspiracy to Commit Murder Discussion

 

[afitzy]

Interesting article about the impact of surveillance footage in the Dulos case:

Surveillance footage played big role in Dulos investigation

We had alot of questions the other day about how many surveillance spots were in the high tech Hartford System and according to this article:

Hartford’s system is so high tech, it covers at least 720 spots in the city and can isolate certain vehicles or clothing, down to the color, in any given time-frame. [BBM] From 7:31 p.m. to 7:50 p.m. on May 24, cameras tracked a truck, which police say Dulos and Troconis were in, dumping multiple garbage bags along Albany Avenue.

 

[citygirl]

Interesting article about the impact of surveillance footage in the Dulos case:

Surveillance footage played big role in Dulos investigation

We had alot of questions the other day about how many surveillance spots were in the high tech Hartford System and according to this article:

Hartford’s system is so high tech, it covers at least 720 spots in the city and can isolate certain vehicles or clothing, down to the color, in any given time-frame. [BBM] From 7:31 p.m. to 7:50 p.m. on May 24, cameras tracked a truck, which police say Dulos and Troconis were in, dumping multiple garbage bags along Albany Avenue.

Busted!
MOO.

 

[joypath]

Yes, that is what I was trying to get at.

But, what I have seen is that people put sealers on top of the concrete. I agree that these sealers doesn't create an absolute perfect barrier but it could mean that perhaps blood seepage into the concrete was not uniform.

I was also trying to understand why the concrete floor wasn't partially removed by LE if there was forensic material in the concrete? Does this mean that they were able to get what they needed from remaining matter that was on top of the concrete?

Also, the issue of Fd using bleach for his clean up in the garage and I was trying to understand the forensic impact of the bleach not only on the floor but the walls as well.

Sorry for lack of clarity.

MOO

No need to remove the floor IF they found forensic material on the surface. The saturated flooring would "light up" like a Christmas tree when treated with Luminol AND the smears, smudges & cleaning attempts would be very visible. Standard practice is to rub sterile swabs over the suspect area(s), of course after photographs are taken.
Ah the ever popular BLEACH clean up! IF he were stupid enough to use bleach to flood the floor or walls, there would remain a distinctive smell......tell-tale sign of a big NO NO occurring, especially when no washing machine is within "spitting distance"! As mentioned in other posts, bleach can effect biological materials (denatures the protein), so that's another reason why other exemplar sites are evaluated (high surface areas, semi-"protected" areas, spots where there is evidence of re-arranging the scene).

IME, IMO.

 

[Midwestmom2019]

Re: KM's phone being replaced:
It wasn't your mistake at all - you got it right. The AW did say he replaced it instead of fixing it, which doesn't make sense... unless, of course, one is hiding evidence!

iCloud could come in handy.

 

[NCmom99]

@sds71, No Atty. P. or Pattisville?

Couldn't get behind paywall.

***
Same here. They wanted professional email address instead of gmail and mine would not be relevant. Would be interesting to see the list.

 

[Curious in CT]

KM might do well to keep in min what happened to Fotis Dulos's mother after SHE "fell down, got concussed."

For some reason this made me wonder...did FD take KM's phone and break it? It was broken on the 25th, right? I somehow feel like all roads lead to FD, I guess.

I am not buying the fall down the stairs/concussion/breaking phone story. Nope, that didn't happen. More story-time stories a la FD/NP.

My opinion only.

 

[joypath]

Well, doubt he threw bleach on the walls. Did JD have bleach on hand? I don't have it in my own house. LE must have gotten what they needed without removing the floor. Whether the main blows were to carotid artery by slitting JD throat or bashing her on the head with a bat, FD likely did not understand the fine blood spray that would go everywhere unseen by the naked or unpracticed eye. The AW stated spatter caused by an external object. That is bludgeoning, IMO. I don't think paper towels are going to clean up everything. Blood spray can go everywhere. Even up to the ceiling. JD must have fought very hard for her life. I can't imagine that this was supposed to be anything more than strangulation. I don't believe FD wanted to get down and dirty with blood. MOO.
ETA: FD did not watch enough Dateline/48 Hours Mystery

PERFECT ANSWER! and yes, Fd missed the on screen tutorials from other failed "characters"! Just MOO!