Deceased/Not Found CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #38

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  • #161
Retsina? Ouzo, perhaps? ;):p

One thing for certain: that family is not doing any good for Greek tourism, or any honor to their heritage. It'll be a long time before anyone I know dates a Greek or Turk male, as well.

They've really bashed their culture, heritage, and country. Disgusting.
Agree.

What a clan these Duolos/Dulos (or however they spell their name) Turkish folks masquerading as Greek members of the Greek Orthodox diaspora are! And IMO they along with Fd have given new meaning to "Greek Ethics and Morality"! No care or concern to speak of for JFd whose money no doubt supported the group of them through the implosion of the Greek economy as my guess is that the 1500EURO/month retirement pension of the Greek Rear Admiral won't go far even in Athens!

Nope, today the female members of the 'Greek Family' became DV deniers and it was done by both younger and older women of the Dulos family as well. Perhaps the way Fd treated JFd was simply the way Greek women are used to being treated and so these seemingly well educated women of the Dulos family saw no issues of DV in the marriage as it fit into their cultural norms of behaviour and fidelity? I still do wonder if any of the women of the Dulos family took 2 seconds and took a gander through the Family Court files? Probably not and that is sad too as the story and evidence are all there IMO for anyone interested. But I'm not sure the women of the Dulos family care much about anything other than $$$. Were the Ivy League educations of the 2 daughters (Penn and Cornell I believe) paid for by the family in Greece or Fd via JFd? I guess biting the hand that fed you is also that seems to be something of a Greek tradition perhaps as well? IDK. We shall see.

I have missed more comments from the "Greek Rear Admiral" though as his initial attacks on the US Legal System were entertaining as they were ill informed. But even with his lack of knowledge about the US Legal System it was fascinating to see that EVEN HE THE GREEK REAR ADMIRAL was fixated on the $$$$$ being spent by JFd to defend herself from Fd.

Its become pretty clear that as a culture ££££ or $$$$ OR EUROS are really all that matter to these folks and that no government or rule or regulation local or international will come between them and penny!

We saw also the entire issue with the PanPan scandal business as well and we will no doubt meet more such 'ethically challenged' Greeks given that Atty Colangelo named at least one in AW3.

Its really not the fact that these people are Greek, but that despite their educations they simply are unable and unwilling to pursue the truth or have any degree of compassion for JFd.

MOO
 
  • #162
Would there have been enough time for FD or MT to look for journals? That's assuming FD even knew that JD might be Journaling. I certainly hoped she did journal about everything, and LE found first.

wonder if she has a private blog or other on line journal that is stored electronically. didn't she have an ipad?
 
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Agree.

What a clan these Duolos/Dulos (or however they spell their name) Turkish folks masquerading as Greek members of the Greek Orthodox diaspora are! And IMO they along with Fd have given new meaning to "Greek Ethics and Morality"! No care or concern to speak of for JFd whose money no doubt supported the group of them through the implosion of the Greek economy as my guess is that the 1500EURO/month retirement pension of the Greek Rear Admiral won't go far even in Athens!

Nope, today the female members of the 'Greek Family' became DV deniers and it was done by both younger and older women of the Dulos family as well. Perhaps the way Fd treated JFd was simply the way Greek women are used to being treated and so these seemingly well educated women of the Dulos family saw no issues of DV in the marriage as it fit into their cultural norms of behaviour and fidelity? I still do wonder if any of the women of the Dulos family took 2 seconds and took a gander through the Family Court files? Probably not and that is sad too as the story and evidence are all there IMO for anyone interested. But I'm not sure the women of the Dulos family care much about anything other than $$$. Were the Ivy League educations of the 2 daughters (Penn and Cornell I believe) paid for by the family in Greece or Fd via JFd? I guess biting the hand that fed you is also that seems to be something of a Greek tradition perhaps as well? IDK. We shall see.

I have missed more comments from the "Greek Rear Admiral" though as his initial attacks on the US Legal System were entertaining as they were ill informed. But even with his lack of knowledge about the US Legal System it was fascinating to see that EVEN HE THE GREEK REAR ADMIRAL was fixated on the $$$$$ being spent by JFd to defend herself from Fd.

Its become pretty clear that as a culture ££££ or $$$$ OR EUROS are really all that matter to these folks and that no government or rule or regulation local or international will come between them and penny!

We saw also the entire issue with the PanPan scandal business as well and we will no doubt meet more such 'ethically challenged' Greeks given that Atty Colangelo named at least one in AW3.

Its really not the fact that these people are Greek, but that despite their educations they simply are unable and unwilling to pursue the truth or have any degree of compassion for JFd.

MOO
She was an outsider in the family - a non Greek. Therefore different rules applied to her. JMO
 
  • #165
She was an outsider in the family - a non Greek. Therefore different rules applied to her. JMO
Agree. She was a wealthy American Jewish woman, not one of “them.” Notice he went through two marriages and neither woman was Greek. Not even his mistress is Greek. Was it because he planned to use and abuse his women and because they’re “outsiders” his actions are justified. His filthy sister and niece seem to think so. Somehow they know all that went on in JD/FD marriage even though they live full time in Greece.

No doubt they all squandered away hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of JD and HF’s money over the years. To them she was just an ATM, not a human being.

If what I’m saying is not the portrayal of the Greek family, we would’ve heard some sort of compassion, grief, or concern towards missing Jennifer who suffered a deadly blow in her garage. Every time they speak it’s only to defend their evil FD.
 
  • #166
I make it a point not to watch the gasbag speak, but a recent picture of him shows that he is not the carefree, confidant litigator he claims to be. In fact, he is looking positively pasty and drawn. I am no fan of the guy, but if he hasn't had a physical lately, he really should.

I am in no way being sarcastic when I say he should start with his heart. He would not be the first defender to croak in the middle of a stressful case, especially those who do not pay attention to their health.

Maybe Dulos can introduce him to bicycling in a long-sleeved hooded sweatshirt in May, or running through the woods, taking care to avoid the poison ivy (remember Dulos' rashes at the time of his 1st arrest?). Nah, where he is going, he better immediately begin lifting weights and learning exercises for small spaces.

In the meantime, maybe he and Patter can work out together in the luxury work-out room at the Dulos' mansion, paid for with the blood money stolen from the Farber family. Now, I am being sarcastic.
He also need to check that bird’s nest he calls hair for lice. It looks infested.
 
  • #167
Yes; good points.

As she was a writer, and her blogs were of a personal (but not TOO personal) nature, I can't help but think she had more personal writings in her home - in her master bedroom, to be exact. I saw lots of material referenced in the search warrants but wonder if he might have taken her journals, those that may have documented abuse.
I bet you are right - fd was probably looking for her journals. He was mad and afraid because she wrote truthfully about her life and how FD treated her and was respected as a writer. Abusers like fd don’t want their wives to have special talents or good recognitions. He wanted to strip her of everything even after just beating her to death. And, take no chances for being exposed for the devil he really is. MOO
 
  • #168
I thought GF stopped paying the
mortgage Forcing Bank to foreclose.
GF then bought the note so, does that mean she is once again paying the mortgage ?
Yeesh it’s confusing
Is Habib FD’s atty for the foreclosure?
 
  • #169
You mean the same Dr. Herman who is now a hired gun for Patter and has a horrible reputation within his professional community? That Dr. Herman? Yeah, the jury is really going to cotton to that jack rabbit!
Is there a link for Dr. Herman’s profile. Want to make sure I am reading about the right one. Thanx
 
  • #170
Let's hope he does something stupid to revoke his bail.

Witness tampering? Witness stalking? Threatening a Witness? etc.

IMO.
Looks like it’ll be another summer without waterskiing for our boy Fotis. In fact, he may never waterski again. Was killing Jennifer really worth it?
 
  • #171
YEP! I think he's the same "professional" who walked OUT of court while being cross-examined...refused to testify. o_O:confused:
Shocking behavior from a 'professional' but not the first instance of unprofessional behavior from Dr Hermann it would seem! Walking out of court, raising his voice at patients... Seems that he has a little bit of a temper.

This was from NYT in 2004:
Parent Complains, Then Tries to Change the System

A Manhattan stockbroker, Ms. Cockrell said she was not a disgruntled litigant; the evaluator in her case recommended that she retain custody of her daughter, although not on the terms she wanted.

Her grievance involves the way she says she was treated by the evaluator, Dr. Stephen P. Herman, a psychiatrist often appointed in custody cases. In a 25-page complaint filed with the State Health Department and the inspector general of New York's court system, she says he was hostile, raised his voice at her, ordered $4,000 worth of psychological tests he did not use, refused to accept information she had tried to give him, and disparaged the other therapists her family was using.

.......

Ms. Cockrell said she could not protest to the American Psychiatric Association because it said Dr. Herman was not a member. She filed her complaint with the State Health Department's office of professional medical conduct, which quickly rejected it, saying that custody disputes must be handled by the courts.

Ms. Cockrell said she then met with Justice Jacqueline W. Silbermann, the state's chief matrimonial judge, who was sympathetic but told her she should go back to the medical board. Ms. Cockrell has just refiled that complaint, signed by three other women who say they had similar experiences.

......

Now in her third year of trying to fight the forensic-evaluation process in New York, Ms. Cockrell says she has met many other parents with similar problems. ''I just think the whole system should be changed,'' she said. ''It's hurting families.''


...still waiting on changes, sadly. :(
 
  • #172
Yes, that was one of the 'low points' IMO from probably one of the 'lowest point' professionals IMO in this entire case and given that that list includes KM, Atty BM, Atty. P. and Atty Habib that is saying quite a lot IMO.

MOO
We know FD thinks there’s some advantageous-to-him, condemning-to-JD, “smoking gun” in there since he had it in the same office where he kept his sacred alibi scripts.

But exactly what could that be, that would be enough to counter the facts already at hand (and purportedly more to come?)

So is he going to say that JD hired him to kill her off?
That she was that depressed?
And he followed through out of what, compassion, the money she offered him, to protect the kids from her harming them, like what is he going to say?

That a psychologist certified him as a completely healthy, normal human being, and so it must have been his doppelgänger wearing his ball cap and printed T-shirt, driving his truck, hauling along his sleazy girlfriend, with JDs bloody undergarments in bags he stuffed in the trash on Albany?
What kind of certification of normality or mental health is going to vie with that?

With all of this terrible evidence, and only NPs and FDs word against it, and now supposedly this exonerating psych report, are we really supposed to believe that JD pulled this off herself, and/or is still alive? Or that she drove him to do it?

Just what, exactly, is in that report that NP thinks is going to exonerate FD? If it’s so good, doesn't NP want to,”save it for a jury?” Is it going to hold up at the probable cause hearing? Just what did the detectives overlook in this smoking gun of exoneration?

Or, is FDs purpose not even to salvage his own case, but to bring as much damage to JD and her family as he can, even after killing her?Many in his situation at least pretend to lament the dead spouse, it helps with the claims of innocence you know. But killing her wasn’t enough for FD, he is still bent on revenge, even after she’s dead. Perhaps he is so narcissistic that he thinks by making public something that attests to a fragile mental state on her part, or whatever juicy valuable tidbit is in there for him, he can further tarnish her memory?

This tells me that NP is playing his last fiddle, has nothing left in the tank. It’s bags of blood and fingerprints and surveillance cams and alibi scripts and a lyin’ lover and a fugitive attorney accomplice gravedigger, versus a psych report?? That wasn’t even allowed to be admitted in court?
Yeah, I bet the bookmakers are excited about the odds on this one.
As NP likes to say, bring it on.
 
  • #173
Looks like it’ll be another summer without waterskiing for our boy Fotis. In fact, he may never waterski again. Was killing Jennifer really worth it?

Somehow, I think this (and the loss of the apres-ski) is what hurts him most.
 
  • #174
They were apparently looking for something in the master bedroom.

Financial and health paperwork is also a likely target for their searches.

Per Jennifer's writings posted on her blog, FD didn't like her writing about herself. He knew she wrote, and probably knew about her novel and other writings she had done that were more personal - perhaps about the abuse in the marriage? Or about his crimes? Not known to us now, but there's a lot it could have been about.

Perhaps he was looking for her engagement ring. If it was valuable, I imagine he would steal it and sell it. Moo
 
  • #175
So, who’s paying the mortgage right now ..
no one ?
That’s what I assume —GF (or her real estate trust) owns the mortgage and initiated the foreclosure. FD could drag the foreclosure out for years by all kinds of legal bs and live there for a long time without ever paying.
 
  • #176
‘I object’: Norm Pattis says one document could save Fotis Dulos in court
despicable NP just loves loves loves any attention he can get
In the search warrant signed by Judge John Blawie, investigators write Meehan encouraged them to obtain the report “which could assist us in gaining a better understanding of Jennifer’s…mental state.”

That report has never been made public. If it was, Pattis argues that any motive for the killing based on a bitter divorce would be moot. He said it will show Fotis is not the violent man prosecutors and those close to Jennifer have depicted.

I am sure she had mental health issues. I really don't think FD would want that report public. It will damn him, not save him. Is the report going to say that she went down Albany disposing of her own DNA?
 
  • #177
That’s what I assume —GF (or her real estate trust) owns the mortgage and initiated the foreclosure. FD could drag the foreclosure out for years by all kinds of legal bs and live there for a long time without ever paying.

yes, until he is in prison, he will be in that house......think of felon Casey Anthony’s parents who still are in their home Since about 2011 or so when felon was convicted......they even remodeled part of it at one point and now they get to keep the house after years of attempts by bank to foreclose...here is an article

Casey Anthony’s parents avoid foreclosure of infamous Hopespring Drive home as bank agrees to drop suit
 
  • #178
It really is shocking and disheartening how women are still being treated in some cases by the court system. The fact that Jennifer had to go through all of that alone is so sad.

I think the reason this case is particularly anger provoking for me, is because were it not for simply being a woman, and more vulnerable, she would be alive. I just feel so sorry that she seemingly had little to hang onto for help, and no one seemed to properly understand the danger that she was in.

I oddly feel like if I had only known, I would have helped her. I know we all would have. Please don't remind me that she had family, I do know that, and would never disparage them or their relationship with her. imo.
I wonder why the police couldn't be called. Usually they will be there for these sorts of things. Moving out. Especially since there were previous instances of calls to the home. Maybe Jennifer didn't feel close enough to anybody to ask for help. Alot of people say they will help but when it comes right down to it, there's nobody to be found. Not saying that you personally wouldn't have helped, but that's often how it is. MOO.
 
  • #179
So, who’s paying the mortgage right now ..
no one ?
GF has the mortgage. It's hard to evict someone. Still waiting on rulings in the civil case.
 
  • #180
Just remember, everything they say Jennifer did, ultimately it has been shown that he is the one who actually did it. If his family members say they saw Jennifer going after poor sweet Fotis, it’s because they saw him doing it to Jennifer. Like, when he said she left and stole his money
Yeah. Been thru all that myself. I know how it goes. I'm just saying, who cares if Jennifer swore at him. Big whoop! Is that the worst thing she ever did? Jennifer was a human being with real feelings and pushed to the brink by this guy. Also, liars usually include some nugget of truth in their stories. In the case of the Greek Grifters, IF they were even there, and LA would know, they have conveniently left out what FD did but included what JD did. Maybe she DID curse him out. I don't blame her. She was only human.
 
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