Deceased/Not Found CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #44

[sds71]

I don’t get the feeling that this new one is interested in a plea bargain...well at least right now.

i think if she keeps her mouth shut 8-16 for hindering/tampering
CT will drop conspiracy

 

[afitzy]

But if he didn’t fill out the application completely, then how did they get the money?

Good question @MollyDDD! IDK. Hope Atty Colangelo and the Judge know.
MOO

 

[dlharris2712]

My carpal-tunnel is acting up today...with all of my scrolling and rolling.

 

[spaz1959]

IMO, MT is much more upset about AC, and FD high regards for her. This is the sort of thing that pushes a woman like MT buttons. Another woman. I just feel certain that all the charges against MT she was willing to indure, because FD and her were in it together. She is finally shaking off her medicated daze, and seeing the reality of her situation. Now she's pissed. Haha haha it couldn't happened to a better person. #JUSTICE for Jennifer and her family

 

[Ruminations]

I thought he was implying she was never in New Canaan so
if she did anything criminal it was in Hartford county.

That is an interesting technical question. If you are helping murder someone by lugging around cell phones for your murderous significant other (and maybe his rapist friend) are you committing a crime where the phone owner(s) is/are committing a crime, or is your crime where you are holding the cell phone(s)? (Asking for a friend.)

 

[afitzy]

But if he didn’t fill out the application completely, then how did they get the money?

Good question @MollyDDD! IDK. Hope Atty Colangelo and the Judge know.
MOO

See that would be interesting, especially if it was a fresh rash at the time. And if FD had been working near Poison Ivy? I wonder if any Forensic Botanist would know if there was a way to trace that back to a specific patch in a specific area, seems unlikely but plants also have genetic markers! either way probably too late now, which just makes it curious. What I wonder, is how could FD be so obvious about disposing of these bags all over, and they have video for that, and yet there is absolutely no sign of a body or tools or weapons being disposed of in the same amount of time, or along the same route? no purchases of items that one would most likely require but could have? something is way off about this and it stinks... so many questions

The additional questions you raise clearly exist.

BUT, how do we know that LE and Atty Colangelo do not have such evidence in their possession?

We haven't seen all the evidence and the AWs simply show sufficient information in order to obtain the warrant an LE has stated that MUCH more evidence exists.

Its a waiting game that required patience. Stack up your questions and see if they eventually get answered.

Fd was known to shop both at HD and Rings End in NC and so what makes you think that these location and their CCTV weren't scoured in order to get receipts and footage (and ditto for MT).

The footage of the JFd Suburban most likely has been captured multiple times in/around NC on the murder date and who knows, perhaps a face will be visible.

The footage of the French Bike and who was riding it was captured 1x on CCTV per AW3 so who knows if the face will eventually show up on CCTV footage somewhere or even bus cam footage. Many NC houses have CCTV and the NCPD did an amazing job IMO of reaching out and requesting the footage and it is believed that the FBI assisted with this very difficult process too.

This has been a super slow process in great part due to the complexity of the case and for all the reasons you express frustration. Also please realise that other than the AWs, LE hasn't briefed the public on this case at all (we had one small presser at MIRA and one by FPD at the site of Fd suicide last week). Everything you see here was from Press and WS people putting the pieces together via court documents and MSM and the AWs and SWs.

MOO

 

[pandaknows]

Correction: I can't speculate regarding MT's motives. MT could have been in love. And we don't know who put the knife in. Pictures of knives on insta is gangsta but not proof of an actual killing. Apologies to MT for jumping to conclusions. I'll come back to this when the evidence is made public by LE. MOO.

 

[afitzy]

FD, being deceased, will never be charged for JFds murder.

We don't have an answer yet on whether he/his estate can be pursued for wrongful death in a Civil Suit.
MOO

 

[afitzy]

I thought he was implying she was never in New Canaan so
if she did anything criminal it was in Hartford county.

Mmmm.

Remains to be seen I suppose if you are correct!

Curious POV IMO.

MOO

 

[sds71]

https://twitter.com/lauraingle

@lauraingle

Andrew Bowman out, Jon Schoenhorn in, as Michelle Troconis *new defense lawyer. He just filed 4 New motions in the case as he takes over defending Troconis on conspiracy to commit murder, tampering w evidence, & hindering prosecution in #JenniferDulos disappearance

 

[afitzy]

In documents filed in Stamford Superior Court on Wednesday, Troconis’ new attorney, Jon L. Schoenhorn, of Hartford, asked the court to transfer prosecution from the Stamford-Norwalk Judicial District to the Judicial District of Hartford.

“The Stamford-Norwalk Judicial District is saturated with the New York City media market, the chances of prejudicial publicity are greater in Stamford, which has little nexis to the crimes charged, of the defendant than the proper judicial district, namely Hartford,” Schoenhorn wrote in his motion.

Michelle Troconis’ new attorney wants trial moved in Jennifer Dulos case

Haha! Figured it was a media play.

JFd, THE VICTIM, lived at 69/71 Welles Lane, New Canaan, CT - County of FAIRFIELD and not County of HARTFORD

NY media also have the ability and $$$ to travel so not sure the move to Hartford will deter a determined bunch of reporters IMO.

We had NY media all over the Civil Trial.

Surprised to see a hand tip so early in this new game!

MOO

 

[citygirl]

Good question @MollyDDD! IDK. Hope Atty Colangelo and the Judge know.
MOO

The additional questions you raise clearly exist.

BUT, how do we know that LE and Atty Colangelo do not have such evidence in their possession?

We haven't seen all the evidence and the AWs simply show sufficient information in order to obtain the warrant an LE has stated that MUCH more evidence exists.

Its a waiting game that required patience. Stack up your questions and see if they eventually get answered.

Fd was known to shop both at HD and Rings End in NC and so what makes you think that these location and their CCTV weren't scoured in order to get receipts and footage (and ditto for MT).

The footage of the JFd Suburban most likely has been captured multiple times in/around NC on the murder date and who knows, perhaps a face will be visible.

The footage of the French Bike and who was riding it was captured 1x on CCTV per AW3 so who knows if the face will eventually show up on CCTV footage somewhere or even bus cam footage. Many NC houses have CCTV and the NCPD did an amazing job IMO of reaching out and requesting the footage and it is believed that the FBI assisted with this very difficult process too.

This has been a super slow process in great part due to the complexity of the case and for all the reasons you express frustration. Also please realise that other than the AWs, LE hasn't briefed the public on this case at all (we had one small presser at MIRA and one by FPD at the site of Fd suicide last week). Everything you see here was from Press and WS people putting the pieces together via court documents and MSM and the AWs and SWs.

MOO

And who wore the bloody partial shoe prints in the garage and SUV?
MOO.

 

[dkryder]

I've been reading through thread after thread after thread and honestly some of the opinions and speculations are reaching and irrelevant IMOO. Could someone please just try and give me concrete evidence that JD is dead? not hearsay, not DNA on a bag? I think we forget that our emotions get the better of us and we are forgetting that the client/suspect/ FD is presumed innocent. They haven't found a body yet, and as far as I know, from the evidence they collected there isn't evidence of enough blood being lost belonging to JD to concretely say she should be presumed dead. Do I think she's dead? Yes. Does that matter? No. Do I think FD probably did it? Yes. Does that matter? NO!... It doesn't matter if they were going through a divorce, it doesn't matter if they got into arguments( millions upon millions of people go through the same and worse), and unfortunately any suspicious behavior and behaviors in the past are not proof beyond a reasonable doubt that JD was murdered let alone is deceased. I think all of the brilliant minds here, we would be more helpful to the investigation by using our skills to find out where she is, dead or alive, and then you work outward from there. I think if JD is a victim, than we owe it to her to find her and find out what actually happened. JUST A THOUGHT....also FD isn't on trial for murder, correct? Sorry to come off this way, just it gets a little frustrating to hear over and over again that someone is a lying ******* and murdered his wife when that is a big accusation that there is no concrete proof of... I would keep in mind that THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION HAS A GANG MENTALITY-STAY OBJECTIVE!

Someone probably said this already but there was a professional statement of enough blood loss to think JD is dead.

 

[Jmoose]

MT new atty:
Attorney Jon L Schoenhorn & Associates, LLC

From website:
Criminal Defense:
Jon L Schoenhorn & Associates, LLC handles all aspects of criminal cases on an affordable and professional basis, including white collar investigations, from the investigative stage, through grand jury investigations, interviews with law enforcement officials and prosecutors, the arrest and bail process, pre-trial motions, then ultimately trial to verdict and (if unsuccessful) appeal. The firms' attorneys are experienced in all felony, misdemeanor, motor vehicle infractions, youthful offender and juvenile delinquency matters. We work with clients on probation and parole problems, grand jury investigations, extradition, petitions for new trial, sentence modification and habeas corpus. Possible grounds for constitutional challenges to arrests and motions to suppress for violations of individual rights are explored in every case.

Attorney Schoenhorn has never worked in law enforcement or as a prosecutor as a matter of choice and believes that the rights of individuals are paramount when the nearly limitless resources of the state or federal government are brought to bear on citizens.

What do we think happened here? It seems to me that since last week, MT and KM suddenly became more imperiled, and not less. Otherwise, she wouldn’t have needed a new, more aggressive lawyer, yes? So was this MT’s decision (made with her parents), or did Bowman decide that he wanted out, based on the new focus on the two co-conspirators, especially since MT had months and months to cooperate (and chose to roll the dice instead)? I don’t see any way that this indicates that the picture is better, rather than worse for MT, since Fd’s suicide.

 

[Canchance]

Or you could scroll and roll. You do not have to read every post if you do not want to. Also you can hit the ignore button on any member whose post you are not interested in reading. As long as a member's post do not violate TOS, they can post their opinions. Not every opinion is going to be based on hard facts. Some are going to be based speculation and sometimes emotion, which is why you see MOO, IMHO,etc. Every poster is here for Justice for Jennifer. MOO.

So I can block all posts from people I don’t want to see/read!? Thank you for that valuable tip.

 

[citygirl]

@lauraingle

Andrew Bowman out, Jon Schoenhorn in, as Michelle Troconis *new defense lawyer. He just filed 4 New motions in the case as he takes over defending Troconis on conspiracy to commit murder, tampering w evidence, & hindering prosecution in #JenniferDulos disappearance

IMO, they must have some solid evidence, not yet revealed , to charge MT with conspiracy to commit murder.

 

[annekris]

MT new atty:
Attorney Jon L Schoenhorn & Associates, LLC

From website:
Criminal Defense:
Jon L Schoenhorn & Associates, LLC handles all aspects of criminal cases on an affordable and professional basis, including white collar investigations, from the investigative stage, through grand jury investigations, interviews with law enforcement officials and prosecutors, the arrest and bail process, pre-trial motions, then ultimately trial to verdict and (if unsuccessful) appeal. The firms' attorneys are experienced in all felony, misdemeanor, motor vehicle infractions, youthful offender and juvenile delinquency matters. We work with clients on probation and parole problems, grand jury investigations, extradition, petitions for new trial, sentence modification and habeas corpus. Possible grounds for constitutional challenges to arrests and motions to suppress for violations of individual rights are explored in every case.

Attorney Schoenhorn has never worked in law enforcement or as a prosecutor as a matter of choice and believes that the rights of individuals are paramount when the nearly limitless resources of the state or federal government are brought to bear on citizens.

Interesting timing of this new lawyer coincides with the arrival of one new individual sleuther’s ‘innocence mission’ MOOooooooo

 

[merrymary]

Marissa Alter
@MarissaAlter
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This is Attorney Jon Schoenhorn who is now representing Michelle Troconis in her case on charges of conspiracy to commit murder, evidence tampering, and hindering prosecution.
@News12CT
spoke with him and will have more on what he had to say starting at 7.

 

[Jmoose]

I thought he was implying she was never in New Canaan so
if she did anything criminal it was in Hartford county.

I think he is attempting to maintain and control the narrative that MT is at most, someone who was not “in on” the murder, but rather someone who assisted her lover after the fact, even though she was horrified. If he can, he’ll try to say she had no hand in anything, save for the trash bin odyssey of stupidity, where she was on the phone with Petu the whole time. This is my guess-and if he says it often enough, people who haven’t been immersed like us, may believe it.

 

[Jmoose]

For sure I think the case is very compelling, and I'm sure anyone bringing a capital NO BODY murder case, had better be damn sure they know and are convinced of what they are doing. though I am advocating for the presumption of innocence and our 2nd constitutional right in general, I am human and I absolutely weigh in the circumstances and I can believe that it's probable he was involved in her disappearance, but I do not lean towards beyond a reasonable doubt. This reminds me of the Scott Peterson case. I was in school for forensic psychology at the time and I was advocating that they should have never charged him with murder, that the evidence was circumstantial and he shouldn't have been convicted, and I actually at the time believed he did it ( I had the entire class against me, screaming, yelling, that he was a monster etc etc etc, but I just didn't feel they proved that)...well looks like now he might not have done it, and this is exactly the point i'm trying to make. I think it reminds me of it, because the possibility that something else could have happened is there, that for me is reasonable doubt, and I think to charge or convict someone when there is even an inkling of doubt is a dangerous game we play with peoples lives all the time. The system is beautiful when it works, unfortunately it doesn't work that often. I would hate, for him to be aquitted of murder and then the body is found later on, and there is no way to charge him if he did do it again. Where is JD's Justice in that?

What?