Deceased/Not Found CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #45

[Dacaesar]

"But I was cleaning the house. I wasn't cleaning Jennifer."

This seems like a pretty well constructed English sentence - IMO. Why would she need an interpreter? This about says it all.

 

[BUF]

MT was always with her attorney when talking to LE, etc. If there was a language barrier I really don’t think Bowman would have allowed her to answer any questions.

 

[Tink56]

Interesting. In the deposition transcript way back when, it seemed like she could hardly understand what was being asked. My opinion only.

Generally speaking, while individuals acquire proficiency in another language their aural skills and reading skills outpace their oral skills. MT probably understands spoken English very well. She may encounter difficulties in expressing herself in English, but I doubt this was a barrier in her communications with LE.

MT was in the U.S. in her teens and had been living in Miami for more than 10 years prior to her move to Farmington. Her sister is quite proficient in oral English as witnessed in the videos about marketing seal boots. I think insisting on a translator is a dip into the new attorneys bag of tricks. MOO..IMO

 

[Jmoose]

Did she request an interpreter?

If you mean before, no she did not. And if she had, I am sure one would have been provided to her, considering how the judge had been accommodating all of her other requests. She wants one now, because “Dogbite” wants her to have one.

 

[BellaVita]

"But I was cleaning the house. I wasn't cleaning Jennifer."

This seems like a pretty well constructed English sentence - IMO. Why would she need an interpreter? This about says it all.

Biggest Freudian slip of all time.

 

[enelram]

If you mean before, no she did not. And if she had, I am sure one would have been provided to her, considering how the judge had been accommodating all of her other requests. She wants one now, because “Dogbite” wants her to have one.

my morning guffaw! Thanks.

 

[enelram]

Hopefully, FD's estate will not profit from any book/movie deal. I bet NP would like to play himself. MOO.

Based on NP's personal comments, "The story will come out", "I'm very creative", my money's
on Author Squirrel Tail writing the book and getting residuals for the screenplay.
Anyone want a side bet?

 

[pseudo_hum]

Based on NP's personal comments, "The story will come out", "I'm very creative", my money's
on Author Squirrel Tail writing the book and getting residuals for the screenplay.
Anyone want a side bet?

Agreed, I bet that was part of the retainer. MOO

 

[Tink56]

Based on NP's personal comments, "The story will come out", "I'm very creative", my money's
on Author Squirrel Tail writing the book and getting residuals for the screenplay.
Anyone want a side bet?

Definitely agree...But the horror of this from the radio interview is NP's insistence that he will "get the discovery." In other words, he wants to use the family psych report, and he plans to use it to defame JFd, IMO.

When asked in the radio interview if he has the information that Fd promised in his suicide note, NP's says, "It's a work in progress...We don't have everything yet. We're still investigating." (paraphrased) In other words, NP and Fd were relying on trying to create reasonable doubt about who was driving the Tacoma and if it was in fact EE's Tacoma. Wonder what he is planning to do about the bicyclist on Weed street and other evidence containing DNA and blood.

NP doesn't want to commit himself until he sees the State's evidence. He has to mold his explanation around the evidence held by the State. In other words, again, NP has nothing except Fd's words that he didn't do it. It's all a smoke and mirrors show that prolongs Fd's family's grief....extends the grief of the Farbers and the children. This isn't an honorable pursuit...all IMO...MOO.

P.S. And, he still wants the CT Supreme Court to rule on the gag order for his own future benefit....IMO. If the case is closed next week, the gag order would be moot also, IMO. NP should tell us all his story then.

 

[Boxer]

"But I was cleaning the house. I wasn't cleaning Jennifer."

This seems like a pretty well constructed English sentence - IMO. Why would she need an interpreter? This about says it all.

MOO MTs cleaning statement needs it's question with it.
Police were pressing her in an interview. It seems like someone was saying you're in a lot of trouble for helping FD
and she is trying to say "I was just there cleaning the house."
I think an interpreter is a good idea.

 

[pandaknows]

Reply to quote from @BeckyF "IMO FD was only happy if he was able to manipulate people, especially women. Which means to me he most likely told MT lots of details about the murder of Jennifer. Why would he keep it from her? He needed a cohort. He had learned how to manipulate women. Why did she help him dispose of evidence? Because she was under his control due to her own psychological issues. He had no guilt, IMO, so I don't think he would have spilled his guts just to relieve his guilty conscience. JMO."

CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #44

Agreed. I think Fd manipulated MT with I lost the kids because of you. MOO. Meanwhile Fd slyly pitted MT against JFd every chance he got, putting them in the same house if he could. JFd knew Fd wanted to kill her and JFd even told Family Court how he would do it: through MT, MOO. Fd shrugged his shoulders, explains to AC that women are just crazy about me, I can't help it. Wait for me in the wings. Fd, knowing that MT had a raging jealous streak, proceeded with throwing Momma/Wife from the train/into the lion pit. MT, desperate to keep Fd and the money (through the kids), sensing she was losing Fd but couldn't quite put her finger on why, or to whom (AC was just a shadowy figure, managing money in North Carolina, at that time), crashes her car while out stalking/spying. MT, knocking herself out trying to figure out how to keep Fd, spying on the barbecue in the back yard (Fd saying look at this beautiful life I'm giving up for you, my kids, money, beautiful smart wife), believing that JFd was still a rival for Fd's heart, MOO. Something snapped and the bull charged, just like Fd planned all along. MT figured it out when AC moved in. MT gave up the bike to LE, IMO. Fd was afraid of MT spilling all the beans out of jealous rage, got nervous because LE could place him in New Canaan now. Painted into a corner, Fd signed out. Hoping MT would keep quiet with a note: anything you say will implicate us both. Just speculatin' MOO.

 

[Niner]

Okay - I confess - I skipped a bunch of pages - you guys are just posting too much for me to keep up!
Can someone tell me "when" MT got a new lawyer? TIA!

 

[Jmoose]

Based on NP's personal comments, "The story will come out", "I'm very creative", my money's
on Author Squirrel Tail writing the book and getting residuals for the screenplay.
Anyone want a side bet?

Not taking that bet-I think you are right! Hope he has an excellent proofreader

 

[Jmoose]

Okay - I confess - I skipped a bunch of pages - you guys are just posting too much for me to keep up!
Can someone tell me "when" MT got a new lawyer? TIA!

Yesterday

 

[Dacaesar]

"But I was cleaning the house. I wasn't cleaning Jennifer."

This seems like a pretty well constructed English sentence - IMO. Why would she need an interpreter? This about says it all.

MOO MTs cleaning statement needs it's question with it.
Police were pressing her in an interview. It seems like someone was saying you're in a lot of trouble for helping FD
and she is trying to say "I was just there cleaning the house."
I think an interpreter is a good idea.

Point well taken. If the questions were translated in Spanish for her and then her responses were all then made in Spanish. But, she's the one who so indelicately had chosen to mention the victim by name. I'd wager the response would still come out the same, in this case.

 

[enelram]

Okay - I confess - I skipped a bunch of pages - you guys are just posting too much for me to keep up!
Can someone tell me "when" MT got a new lawyer? TIA!

We just heard about it in the last couple days.
sds71 may know exactly when as I think she was
one of the first to report it.
Oh and so you know, we call him "Dogbite".

 

[isabella88]

What is the point of a civil suit against Fotis’ estate for wrongful death? Fotis’ assets, if any, will belong to his kids after probate. Who would civilly sue whom? The kids sue themselves? GF sue her grandchildren? And assets on both sides (which I argue are the same side) get depleted.

There is a point in finding the disappearing funds to make sure they are distributed legally. But wrongful death? That’s to nobody’s benefit.

Wrongful death may give Jennifer's family some peace of mind. It doesn't have to be about the money at all--just ask Fred and Kim Goldman and Nicole Brown's family. JMO

 

[afitzy]

We disagree.

The judge tested the contents of the arrest warrant to see if it met the criteria for FD to be arrested. He did not test the evidence/statement itself to determine whether FD was guilty of the crime. And this is where the Court of Public Opinion comes in, where they are ready to deem someone a murderer on the basis of untested evidence.

Sniped for focus

IMO MOO and all that.

IMO these ongoing critiques of the US system of justice whilst interesting are largely irrelevant as it will be the system under which MT and KM are tried for the crimes they have been accused by the State of CT.

The US system is based on the system of 'innocent until proven guilty' and so this will be how MT will move forward in the CT system and her case will be heard by a jury 'of her peers'.

To ask that a judge 'test evidence' to determine whether, "Fd was guilty of a crime" is simply NOT the US system and I'm not sure any US judge would want this responsibility or power as this is the job of the jury to decide AFTER hearing all the evidence. Also, what person accused of a crime would want a Judge with this power either? There are bench trials in the US where the Judge decides but MT I believe will be tried by a jury.

'Ole Atty. P. and his infamous 'Court of Public Opinion' statements and how it was responsible for Fd taking his life. Fd was responsible for his own actions and how he spent his time and Fd for reasons of his own decided to gas himself to death. The public did not kill Fd. IMO the group of attorneys surrounding Fd did their client no favours with their strategy for the criminal case. Sadly Atty. P. doesn't want to take any responsibility for his strategic choices vis a vis the decision of his client to kill himself and so its simply easier for Atty. P. blame others. Its his choice to do so but it also IMO says a lot about Atty. P. and interpretation of 'duty of care' for his clients.

It is also clear after the fact that sadly Fd had no substantive professional psychological support to deal with the issues that he was having with his situation and certainly with house arrest conditions. The people closest to Fd were his legal team and on the day he killed himself they weren't looking for him it appears until 12:15pm (he was due in court at noon) and the team chose to not drive him to Court as seemed to have been their custom in the past. In short, the people that were responsible for making sure Fd was in Court for his appearance didn't get it right on the day he killed himself. Why? Had the money gone to provide such services or was their anger about the JFd memorial desecration and the disaster with the FAUX Bond? Or, was it all three?

Just tossing this idea out there as a possibility but I seriously question whether Fd ever said anything that was truthful to Atty. P. and Pattisville? We saw the 'alibi script' spouted endlessly by Atty. P. for months and when that AW dropped to explain the 'alibi scripts' to the world, IMO Atty. P. looked like a stooge and buffoon for not having checked and verified the Fd statements. We then saw in the Civil Trial that the Fd and MT affair actually happened a year prior to when was conventionally believed to have happened. Atty. P. LEARNED THIS FACT while sitting in Civil Court and his response was to bend over and put his head on the desk and cover it with his arms. Yes, it seemed like Fd lied about the duration of the affair to Atty. P. Did Fd also lie about FAUX bond package and the desecration of the Jfd memorial and who knows what else? But when AW3 with the murder charges dropped on Fd it seemed like a chill had set in with the folks of Pattisville and so I wonder how much time, effort and energy had been spent to create a narrative that was simply blown out of the water with information presented by the State? My guess it was substantial and devastating to the Defense. Pure speculation on my part but something changed IMO with AW3, Fd and Pattisville.

Most attys won't tolerate lying and yet it seems that Fd just might have been unable to speak or face much of the truth in his life. Sadly we will never hear from Fd because rather than waiting to tell his truth or put on his case he decided to kill himself.

Many defense attorneys tell their clients to stay off the internet and away from the Press. Doesn't sound like Fd got this advice. But the other issue I think that is present is that Atty. P. fed the Court of Public Opinion with a ferocity that hasn't been seen in CT ever and frankly IMO he did his client no favours. So, to see Atty. P. throwing stones at the public and holding them responsible for the death by suicide of Fd, then the only thing I can say is, "Shame On You Atty. P."

I am very surprised that if you are a member of a bar somewhere that this soundbite about the Court of Public Opinion hooked you! The Court of Public Opinion has been around since the idea of trials first took place. The folks here on WS have been busy for months searching out information from Court documents, MSM and other sources with the goal of trying to figure out what happened to JFd. No information has been forthcoming from any source to suggest any viable alternative theory for Fd/MT/KM. Atty. P. never presented one and you know he has spent most likely a huge amount of Fd's money trying to put it together. The only card Atty. P. had to play was to blame the victim in any number of ways and he did this relentlessly.

Will will just have to wait and see if MT new atty can do what Atty. P. was unable to do.

MOO

 

[Eli9]

I've seen it asked but missed the answer, if it was provided. Can anyone tell me why 4JX needs the court to determine who the receiver is? I'm not understanding why this is a matter of the court instead of just being left to GF to appoint her own property minder. TIA

 

[isabella88]

English isn’t MT’s first language and she’ll need an interpreter in court????

Puh-lease. She understands just fine.