Deceased/Not Found CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #47

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  • #81
Interesting that Colangelo would do a radio interview on a pending case with a gag order still in place. Is it possible the gag order died with FD ? He made no mention of the gag order - unless I missed it.
He states the body was not found at MIRA, that they are still looking for it and that the bicycle was in the back of the Tacoma on the return trip to Farmington. Said that if he did not think he could prove the crimes he would not have made the charges. Also a bit surprising to me he seemed to indicate that although there is more video and dna evidence than what is in the warrants, most info is already included in those warrants. Also when asked if anybody else is involved, other than those charged, he did not rule it out. He said something like “ it is still an active investigation and we will see where it takes us”.
Colangelo: “Once it’s a pleaded case, I’d be happy to answer any questions you guys have”.

Also: LE had the FD cell pings on Albany Avenue (from cell ping requests) before they even had the warrant to search FDs phone. So all NPs malpractice blather over the phone is just that, it matters little to the case.

Colangelo also says all the evidence in the FD case applies as well to the MT and KM cases.

Will there be any others charged? Colangelo: hard to tell at this point, don’t know what direction the investigation will go.
 
  • #82
Your so good. I did pull up this map to see what's on Middle Road. I'm thinking of something I can write on and mark the areas of pings. Are these areas where pings were, rather close to each other? Do these towns just flow into each other? I just don't think these areas are random. The time for conversation seems to start at 35 to 40 mins. In the state of CT is it against the law to speak on your cell phone while driving? Could it be that the person driving just pulled over to talk on Middle Rd? Nothing special about Rd is there? The storage unit is important, IMO, but what went on there. Why was it used? When was it rented and under whose name? Was it still being rented after the murder? Has it been explored by LE. Trying to keep up with the many, many details.
 
  • #83
Just leaving a reminder that the issue of the Stamford Advocate FOIA Request for the 10 page report by Lisa Backus still hasn't been made public by the SA or any other member of the Press so far as I can tell.

Glock 19 of Fd (believed to have been illegally brought to CT and unregistered from FL) was released to a member of the public by the FPD.
 
  • #84
Just leaving a reminder that the Farmington Police Department investigation into the suicide/death of Fd hasn't yet been made public. Perhaps its time for another Lisa Backus Stamford Advocate FOIA request?
 
  • #85
Your so good. I did pull up this map to see what's on Middle Road. I'm thinking of something I can write on and mark the areas of pings. Are these areas where pings were, rather close to each other? Do these towns just flow into each other? I just don't think these areas are random. The time for conversation seems to start at 35 to 40 mins. In the state of CT is it against the law to speak on your cell phone while driving? Could it be that the person driving just pulled over to talk on Middle Rd? Nothing special about Rd is there? The storage unit is important, IMO, but what went on there. Why was it used? When was it rented and under whose name? Was it still being rented after the murder? Has it been explored by LE. Trying to keep up with the many, many details.
Interesting that Colangelo would do a radio interview on a pending case with a gag order still in place. Is it possible the gag order died with FD ? He made no mention of the gag order - unless I missed it.
He states the body was not found at MIRA, that they are still looking for it and that the bicycle was in the back of the Tacoma on the return trip to Farmington. Said that if he did not think he could prove the crimes he would not have made the charges. Also a bit surprising to me he seemed to indicate that although there is more video and dna evidence than what is in the warrants, most info is already included in those warrants. Also when asked if anybody else is involved, other than those charged, he did not rule it out. He said something like “ it is still an active investigation and we will see where it takes us”.
This is really interesting.
 
  • #86
With the spotlight firmly on MT and her charge for Conspiracy to Commit Murder in the role of the murder of JFd, I found myself going back to reading the short blog posts of JFd with the idea of trying to learn more about the victim in this case who as the months go by seems to fade from discussion.

I found reading these blog posts brought back the focus on JFd and what seemed to be important in her life.

And five makes seven...

Each time I read these JFd blog posts and see the extreme care JFd took in all aspects of her children's lives and with great love and caring and then I contrast this loving mother of 5 children with the 2 individuals initially charged in her disappearance and murder, namely Fd and MT, the question of what justice will look like is answered.

MT choose to not leave 4Jx and Fd with her daughter when she had the clear opportunity to do so and instead chose to stay and support Fd in all aspects of the plan the 2 (or 3) devised to murder JFd IMO. I do very much wish we had more information about MT in terms of mental health issues and what perhaps ended up with her being placed in a mental health facility in NY for troubled children at the age of 15 where it is believed she first encountered equine therapy. We have seen the aimless and frankly less than productive life of MT via her resume and relationship history with simply finding wealthy men to support her and so its no stretch to believe that MT believed Fd was her 'ticket' to financial security when her time as a Miami party girl was in the rear view mirror due simply to her advancing years and fading looks as so clearly explained in the article posted yesterday in the prior thread. Is MT the uncaring amoral sociopath that has emerged so far in AW1-3 and a perfect partner double for Fd? As @BellaVita always seems to hammer home so clearly, it looks like this is MT to a 'T'!

So, in my mind now justice looks like seeing an eventual clear legal consequence for this decision by MT (and all other co-conspirators) for their participation in the murder of JFd. Let MT explain in the language of her choosing how she could participate in such a monstrous act with zero remorse or caring. I very much look forward to hearing the defense put on by the MT New Atty and look forward to the eventual jury trial.

Right now MT is looking at 20 years to life if convicted on a combination or all of her existing charges. We don't know if more charges will be forthcoming as we know that other charges (such as lying to LE or possibly further obstruction charges related to lying in 3 interview) could have been brought against MT but have not yet happened.

MOO
 
  • #87
All the cell tower dump makes sense except for Bristol. Hutchs pond address is included as well as the Starbucks MT said FD wanted to go to. And that’s right there on Albany ave. That plaza address you guys keep talking about is wheee the trash dump started
I don't believe that's where the trash dump started, unless I'm mistaken. 26 Crossroads is across the street from the Starbucks in West Hartford. The area of Albany in Hartford with surveillance is almost 3 miles from there.

Was it published anywhere that the trash dump started in West Hartford? I was under the impression they disposed of everything in the Hartford, lower-income section of Albany.
 
  • #88
Also: LE had the FD cell pings on Albany Avenue (from cell ping requests) before they even had the warrant to search FDs phone. So all NPs malpractice blather over the phone is just that, it matters little to the case.
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The SW for FD phone was issued 8:50PM 5/25. Not sure LE could have gotten cell pings quicker than that from the cell provider. Is this info in the SW? That is a long freaking document, lol!
 
  • #89
Thank you for this. I had only read bits and pieces, and it took me a while to read this entire AW. I had to keep going back over the lies, and more lies. I only can conclude that I'm still not sure MT has still told the truth. What a mess she has gotten herself into. If her attorney thinks he can get the interviews dismissed because of language barrier, he has a tough hill to climb on that.

I do believe KM has the upper hand, he seems to not have been a part of the actual activities (can I say murder), but he is certainly deserving of a conspiracy charge. That plus the fact that he ran, and had to be arrested at gun point indicates guilt in my mind of something.

I just hope that this will quickly come to trial and be also quick with the verdict. The grandmother is the children's first family now, and I understand she is advanced in age. While I wish her the best of health for many years, I also don't want the children to go through more turmoil.

MOO
 
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I don't believe that's where the trash dump started, unless I'm mistaken. 26 Crossroads is across the street from the Starbucks in West Hartford. The area of Albany in Hartford with surveillance is almost 3 miles from there.

Was it published anywhere that the trash dump started in West Hartford? I was under the impression they disposed of everything in the Hartford, lower-income section of Albany.
https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.tow...-11ea-845d-bfd3124a7453/5e14e1a421b22.pdf.pdf
pages 6,7 and 8
 
  • #91
Attorney’s deal in rape case pending ‘discussions’ in Jennifer Dulos homicide

Quotes from article:

A judge said Friday an attorney accused of sexually assaulting his wife has been offered a deal that’s pending “discussions” in the Jennifer Dulos homicide case.

Kent Mawhinney, who is accused of helping Fotis Dulos in the death and disappearance of his estranged wife, has been offered a plea deal in the sexual assault and violation of a protective order cases related to alleged incidents involving his own wife, Judge Laura F. Baldini said.

The terms of the potential deal were not revealed in court and the judge said it could be held up pending “discussions” in the Jennifer Dulos case. It was the first time the two cases were mentioned together.
Just my opinion/guess, I think KM may have been talking ever since he couldn't post bond on the conspiracy charge. After all, MT and FD both bonded out and guess who was left sitting there - yep, KM. Plus, KM has more to lose than even MT really. His law license has been suspended , which is his life/income. Plus, he has the other charges against him regarding his wife, etc., so his plate really is full. MT has family to support her emotionally/financially/physically, etc., versus IMO, KM doesn't have much of that. I think MT's chance to talk has now passed and I think that may have played a role in Atty. B no longer representing her.

This is all JMO and no way am I referring in this post that KM doesn't have coming what he's getting, but rather the point being, I think he will or has probably been more forthcoming with info to LE/investigators than MT has or will.
 
  • #92
Just my opinion/guess, I think KM may have been talking ever since he couldn't post bond on the conspiracy charge. After all, MT and FD both bonded out and guess who was left sitting there - yep, KM. Plus, KM has more to lose than even MT really. His law license has been suspended , which is his life/income. Plus, he has the other charges against him regarding his wife, etc., so his plate really is full. MT has family to support her emotionally/financially/physically, etc., versus IMO, KM doesn't have much of that. I think MT's chance to talk has now passed and I think that may have played a role in Atty. B no longer representing her.

This is all JMO and no way am I referring in this post that KM doesn't have coming what he's getting, but rather the point being, I think he will or has probably been more forthcoming with info to LE/investigators than MT has or will.
I agree that he may be talking, but also think it has been a slow process to get there. He’s been locked up for a while now with a lot of time to think....and now his buddy has committed suicide.
 
  • #93
Just my opinion/guess, I think KM may have been talking ever since he couldn't post bond on the conspiracy charge. After all, MT and FD both bonded out and guess who was left sitting there - yep, KM. Plus, KM has more to lose than even MT really. His law license has been suspended , which is his life/income. Plus, he has the other charges against him regarding his wife, etc., so his plate really is full. MT has family to support her emotionally/financially/physically, etc., versus IMO, KM doesn't have much of that. I think MT's chance to talk has now passed and I think that may have played a role in Atty. B no longer representing her.

This is all JMO and no way am I referring in this post that KM doesn't have coming what he's getting, but rather the point being, I think he will or has probably been more forthcoming with info to LE/investigators than MT has or will.
I agree, but KM as a lawyer, also knows what prison would be like. Yikes, I can't imagine being locked up for years. He should be terrified and should be telling all he knows.

MOO
 
  • #94
Was Fd's self-storage large enough tor a truck to pull in and do a body transfer?
Good question, but do a body transfer to what?
To:
  • Another truck or SUV (not sure what KM drove, owned or borrowed)
  • A large storage bin, barrel, car-top-carrier
  • A large trunk or suitcase
  • A shipping container for other medium to large item (bike, sofa, etc)
 
  • #95
Investigators found no evidence that the body of Jennifer Dulos was at a Hartford trash plant after an extensive search that lasted nearly three weeks last spring, according to the lead prosecutor in the case of the death and disappearance of the New Canaan mother.

“We didn’t find any evidence of that,” Chief State’s Attorney Richard Colangelo said in an interview Friday on
WPLR’s Chaz & AJ show.
priority.

“That has been our No. 1 focus since Jennifer went missing back in May,” Colangelo said in the radio interview. “We’ve unturned every stone that we possibly could, we’re still looking.”

It was the first extensive interview Colangelo has given on the case since his request for a gag order in the case was granted in September. The gag order, which the defense has
appealed to the state Supreme Court to overturn, prohibits anyone involved, including witnesses, from speaking publicly about the case.

Colangelo was the state’s attorney in charge of the Judicial District of Stamford and Norwalk when Jennifer Dulos was reporting missing on May 24. He was appointed chief state’s attorney, overseeing the Division of Criminal Justice, on Jan. 30 — the same day Fotis Dulos
died from an apparent suicide.
Colangelo said he was with attorney Kevin Smith, one of the members of the Dulos defense team, when Farmington police found the 52-year-old inside his running SUV in the garage of his home on Jan. 28. Colangelo and Smith were waiting for Dulos at the Stamford courthouse for an emergency bond hearing where a judge could have sent him back to jail.

It was “real sad,” Colangelo said. “I was sitting with Kevin Smith when it was happening in real life.”

Prosecutor: No ‘evidence’ of Jennifer Dulos at Hartford trash plant
So if the body did not go to MIRA, what are the other possibilities?

- LE thinks body left Welles in JDs Suburban driven by FD per AW. Could have been disposed of in NC en route to Waveny, handed off at Waveny, taken elsewhere during the 43 minute interval (JD phone turned off 11:08am so presumably FD was at Waveny parking spot at that time.)
These would all be pretty high-risk of visibility and/or body being found I would think. Although I would like to know what LE has to say about FDs foray to Silver Spring Rd on June 25, when KM was doing his 2nd interview with LE and the MIRA search had just ended.

-average mph on Tacoma trip between NC rest stop and 80MS (all between 57-60mph entire route) suggests no time to drop body along this route, otherwise average mph between timepoints would be drastically lowered. Given age and condition of vehicle and need to avoid being pulled over for speeding likley FD was keeping to 60mph average. (Side note, although midday, still surprising to me he could make that good time given the usual traffic backup and unpredictability along the lower portion of the route at least. FD lucked out with traffic!)

-MOO: highly likely that body was brought back to 80MS. Where did it go after that?

-disposal in afternoon of 5/24, AW says they believe that FD was at 80MS all afternoon. But MT was rolling back and forth in various vehicles. How well are these 2 vehicles tracked that afternoon? Could the body have been in one of them and then handed off to someone else? There are SW requests for cell tower dumps that afternoon at The Pond, and various other locales. FD could have disposed in woods behind/around 80MS.
Gap in AW between FD arrival at 80MS 12:20 and him returning in Suburban at 1pm with MT following. Could FD have brought body to 4JC in that time, for burial behind 4JC late at night? Or for pickup or handoff to someone else? We would assume that LE would have cam of anyone else arriving or leaving 4JC or 80MS that day or night.

-did FD leave 4JC after returning from Albany that night? Or could he have buried her out back behind 4JC in the night? Or very early Saturday? FD was texting LA around 5am on Saturday.

One thing we do know is the clothing had been removed (this is hard to write) by Friday evening since the clothes were in the Albany trash. The condition and number of bags taped together, ripped open and knotted, ponchos, etc in Albany trash suggest that most of the activity relating to the murder and disposal was completed by the time they left on the Albany run. Either they put the body into some sort of container, or had disposed of or handed it off already. Otherwise there would have been additional cleanup needing disposing. It seems like most of the operation was likely concluded by the time of the Albany run.

I doubt FD kept the body around past very early Saturday am as he was planning to pick up the kids. He would be planning on having them for long term and thus would have needed to get the body out of the way before he had the kids on his hands.

This is all MOO and just current thinking in light of Colangelo interview.
 
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The SW for FD phone was issued 8:50PM 5/25. Not sure LE could have gotten cell pings quicker than that from the cell provider. Is this info in the SW? That is a long freaking document, lol!
This was from Colangelo interview on Chaz and AJ on 2/14, that’s what he said in answer to questions about the phone seizure at NCPD.
 
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Just my opinion/guess, I think KM may have been talking ever since he couldn't post bond on the conspiracy charge. After all, MT and FD both bonded out and guess who was left sitting there - yep, KM. Plus, KM has more to lose than even MT really. His law license has been suspended , which is his life/income. Plus, he has the other charges against him regarding his wife, etc., so his plate really is full. MT has family to support her emotionally/financially/physically, etc., versus IMO, KM doesn't have much of that. I think MT's chance to talk has now passed and I think that may have played a role in Atty. B no longer representing her.

This is all JMO and no way am I referring in this post that KM doesn't have coming what he's getting, but rather the point being, I think he will or has probably been more forthcoming with info to LE/investigators than MT has or will.
If anyone of the stooges were going to talk, I had hoped it would be him. Thankfully it appears he has.
 
  • #99
I've read the warrants multiple times. Where does it mention any activity related to dumping trash outside of the Hartford after of Albany Ave? 26 Crossroads is 3 miles from the locations described in the AW.

ETA: Not trying to be snarky, just wondering if I missed something.
I'm not the person that is discussing Crossroads. You asked where the trash dump started. AW outlines the journey. IMO.
https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.tow...-11ea-845d-bfd3124a7453/5e14e1a421b22.pdf.pdf
Pages 6,7 and 8.
AW states where trash dump started.
 
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