Deceased/Not Found CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #47

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  • #861
This sounds far-fetched, because it is, but this would be affirmative.
Fiction:
“MSM is reporting a secret underground cash only outpatient surgery and trauma center accessible by trap door from Waveny Park.”
(Link to fictional article)
If you posted that, there would be an affirmative reason to begin to consider that Jennifer is not dead.
Your post is golden. RSBM and responding to BBM:
ROTFLM[REDACTED]O.

Perhaps that is what Dave Altamari may be reporting next.
 
  • #862
Michelle Troconis is charged with:

Ct. General Statute for Conspiracy To Commit Murder

(a) A person is guilty of conspiracy when, with
intent that conduct constituting a crime be performed, he agrees with one or more persons to engage in or cause the performance of such conduct, and any one of them commits an overt act in pursuance of such conspiracy.

The sole charge above covers Michelle Troconis's actions BEFORE the murder.
She performed certain actions along with another person which led to murder. Somehow she was complicit.
Was she a lookout in New Canaan?
Did she notify FD when JFD arrived at a certain point on her school run?
did she bring things to WL to help cleanup?
This charge to me indicates her assistance prior to the murder.
Will there be another charge as 'accessory'?
Lots of missing information on her participation and how she conspired.
She was not just a "bit player' as Atty. DogBite
claims. She conspired with the murderer to assist the murderer. In order for the murder to have been accomplished as it was, it required her help.
did she bring the weapon to WL?
We may be getting some grim discovery when it's released. Her participation may be keeping
MamaA awake at night.
Odd that her atty. is awfully quiet. Maybe he's
finally read the AW's and is now floored with
how to develop a defense based on the evidence in the AW's. But LE firmly believes she Conspired To Commit Murder. Hefty charge to defend.
 
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I'm still hung up on the phone ping on Birch St., Bristol.
I have a couple new thoughts on this and it involves Michelle Troconis's involvement.

Who's old stomping grounds is right around
Middle St., Birch St., Pine St, ESPM headquarters? That's right, Michelle Troconis.
She would most likely have thought of using or being in this area rather than FD because of her familiarity of this neighborhood.
And again, having lived nearby many years ago, this area is not a place that locals go to
or near UNLESS they go there was a specific purpose. It's an old, rundown semi-industrial
mixed use neighborhood of little old houses,
small factories, public and private dumps and landfills which accept normal waste and toxic materials. Many run down rentals and a few
apartment sites there also. Not what you'd call a good neighborhood.
So I believe this errand into Birch/Middle St. was run by Michelle as an errand for FD.
Because I'm convinced she participated in some of the post mortem handling of the body
due to her dna being on several bags, and because I suspect the body was likely desecrated after death for both disposal and possibly due to joint hatred by both FD and Michelle Troconis. It's very possible, IMO, that Michelle Troconis may have been delivering parts of the body, maybe the severed head and hands, re-wrapped after unwrapping and being
dismembered at 80 MS or DC, and then repackaged in a container like a cooler, driven
to the Middle St. area and disposed of. Either
in a lake or swamp, or a pre-dug grave, or left
as toxic waste at one of the dumps/landfills there.
I believe that we'll eventually read that the phone pings around Birch St. , Bristol was FD's
female crime assistant, Michelle Troconis.
Come on Kent, we need you to come clean.
You know all about this errand, tell LE all you know.

I believe MT worked for ESPN Argentina in 2004, as noted in the attached. I doubt she had any reason to be at the ESPN Headquarters in CT. I guess she could look for employment, otherwise I do not see her going to Bristol for ESPN. So, I do not see ESPN as the reason for any familiarity with the Bristol area.

Why was Bristol on the 'to do' list That day?

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IMO.
 

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Jmoose said:
What makes you think that it is unlikely the ponchos were worn to commit the murder?

also the aw said jd Dna only was found on the ponchos.i don’t recall mention of blood?(correct me if I’m wrong) if they were used for the attack or dismemberment you would expect there to be blood on the ponchos. Moo
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The AW only specifies the term "blood" in 3 instances in the table shown above. It doesn't specify in the above that there was blood on the zip ties but it was on the zip ties according to this:
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In other words, lack of specification in the table shown does not mean lack of blood. JD shirt and bra were certainly bloody as reported extensively by MSM citing LE sources. And that's not specified either.
 
  • #866
Michelle Troconis is charged with:
Ct. General Statute for Conspiracy To Commit Murder
(a) A person is guilty of conspiracy when, with
intent that conduct constituting a crime be performed, he agrees with one or more persons to engage in or cause the performance of such conduct, and any one of them commits an overt act in pursuance of such conspiracy.
Will there be another charge as 'accessory'?
RSBM: IMO, and from what I have read, in CT Conspiracy=Accessory. It's not a separate charge.
MT has been charged with hindering prosecution and evidence tampering which in my book equals the common usage of the term accessory but not the legal term used in CT. MOO.
 
  • #867
DBM
 
  • #868
So, your theory is that Jennifer is not dead being that that it appears the crime scene was not messy enough to make LA feel alarm; she sensed only weirdness?

You are NOT postulating that Jennifer was killed after LA left, per your explicit answer to an explicit question, but rather you are hinting that the ME is wrong?

Why the hint, and not say it outright? I can’t imagine a lot of people would agree, but even those of us who do not believe she is alive know that team Fotis’ defense is going to be to bring in a parade of their own paid experts. It’s not like it is a defense theory we are not anticipating. For that matter, it’s not like it’s a defense theory that hasn’t been used.

Fotis himself eventually went to that theory of defense. Initially, when most people were hoping she lost her phone and was stuck under something heavy, Fotis already told Meehan the “news” she disappeared, and was arranging to be there for the kids who “needed him now.” It was as if he already knew she wasn’t coming back, and that the kids needed to move on with him more than they needed him to tell LE her state of mind on their visit, etc. He didn’t even ask if he could help check hospitals, etc.

Eventually, most assumed she had been killed by him, and the general population had got to where he was less the 24 hours after her death, assuming her disappearance was a concrete thing that had happened in the past, not a current mystery. The mystery was the location of her body. (Although MT has a theory for where it was at some point.)

But Fotis and his murder-fantasizing attorney were floating absurd theories of her being alive. The weirdest was Fotis wishing dead Jennifer happy holidays even when Jennifer was dead, and it wasn’t the holidays.

So float that defense theory if you want. I call BS because even Fotis knew right from the start, she wasn’t coming back.
“Initially, when most people were hoping she lost her phone and was stuck under something heavy, Fotis already told Meehan the “news” she disappeared, and was arranging to be there for the kids who “needed him now.” It was as if he already knew she wasn’t coming back”

BINGO !! Not one accused party in this crime has behaved in the manner that an innocent, concerned, perplexed party would conduct themselves.

MT.... just imagine that your relationship partner was accused of murdering their estranged spouse — is there anything in MTs conduct that resembles how you would behave ? Lying to LE? Making up shower sex stories that never occurred? Heck no!

KM...imagine that your client/friend was accused of murder and you were implicated. Would you flee your workplace upon notification of an arrest warrant, to parts unknown, and only give yourself up to police at gunpoint ?

Etc
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  • #869
“Initially, when most people were hoping she lost her phone and was stuck under something heavy, Fotis already told Meehan the “news” she disappeared, and was arranging to be there for the kids who “needed him now.” It was as if he already knew she wasn’t coming back”

BINGO !! Not one accused party in this crime has behaved in the manner that an innocent, concerned, perplexed party would conduct themselves.

MT.... just imagine that your relationship partner was accused of murdering their estranged spouse — is there anything in MTs conduct that resembles how you would behave ? Lying to LE? Making up shower sex stories that never occurred? Heck no!

KM...imagine that your client/friend was accused of murder and you were implicated. Would you flee your workplace upon notification of an arrest warrant, to parts unknown, and only give yourself up to police at gunpoint ?

Etc
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And the icing on the cake?
Fotis Dulos checks out.
MOO.
 
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DEAN, MARK H., AS TRUSTEE OF THE CT RE 2019 TRUST v. DULOS, FOTIS Et Al
P AMENDED COMPLAINT AS SERVED
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SECOND AMENDED COMPLAINT

138.00 02/20/2020 http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/DocumentInquiry/DocumentInquiry.aspx?DocumentNo=18751285

Re the probate of FD’s estate, on 2/19/20 Chaz & AJ’s guest was Lisa Wexler, who is host of her own radio show as well as the Probate Judge of the Westport/Weston district. LW said that Atty P could be a creditor. One of the guys said that when he asked Norm (on the air) if he had been paid, “he hung up on me.” LW also discussed the cat—said it had belonged to FD’s mother, and spoke of how close FD had been to his mother. Guess she didn’t know the circumstances of Mama D’s death and her speedy cremation. They also discussed the psychological impact of events at JX and whether it would affect its marketability. They--including Judge W--discussed what CT law said about it and agreed that a house’s history, e.g., homicide, other felony, or suicide, had to be disclosed—on a form you had to fill out. That’s incorrect. In CT the RE agent doesn’t have to disclose such an “immaterial fact” and the seller has to disclose it only if a serious buyer in process of making an offer requests the owner to disclose any such “immaterial” fact known to him or her-- in writing .

https://www.cga.ct.gov/2004/ba/2004SB-00481-R01-BA.htm
 
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Re the probate of FD’s estate, on 2/19/20 Chaz & AJ’s guest was Lisa Wexler, who is host of her own radio show as well as the Probate Judge of the Westport/Weston district. LW said that Atty P could be a creditor. One of the guys said that when he asked Norm (on the air) if he had been paid, “he hung up on me.” LW also discussed the cat—said it had belonged to FD’s mother, and spoke of how close FD had been to his mother. Guess she didn’t know the circumstances of Mama D’s death and her speedy cremation. They also discussed the psychological impact of events at JX and whether it would affect its marketability. They--including Judge W--discussed what CT law said about it and agreed that a house’s history, e.g., homicide, other felony, or suicide, had to be disclosed—on a form you had to fill out. That’s incorrect. In CT the RE agent doesn’t have to disclose such an “immaterial fact” and the seller has to disclose it only if a serious buyer in process of making an offer requests the owner to disclose any such “immaterial” fact known to him or her-- in writing .

https://www.cga.ct.gov/2004/ba/2004SB-00481-R01-BA.htm
Interesting that NP could be a creditor.
 
  • #873
Jmoose said:
What makes you think that it is unlikely the ponchos were worn to commit the murder?




also the aw said jd Dna only was found on the ponchos.i don’t recall mention of blood?(correct me if I’m wrong) if they were used for the attack or dismemberment you would expect there to be blood on the ponchos. Moo
AW lists blood like stain on poncho dna Jd. Also, just listing stain doesn’t indicate how large in any of listed evidence. It may be large!

MOO
 
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The AW only specifies the term "blood" in 3 instances in the table shown above. It doesn't specify in the above that there was blood on the zip ties but it was on the zip ties according to this:
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In other words, lack of specification in the table shown does not mean lack of blood. JD shirt and bra were certainly bloody as reported extensively by MSM citing LE sources. And that's not specified either.

A poster a few pages back said the use of the ponchos was one those things that bothered them(May not be their exact wording) so I thought a reasonable answer to her would be the arrest warrant didn’t mention blood on the ponchos, so I would assume they weren’t used for a attack or dismemberment.
So what you are saying is I should not have answered back with that answer because we don’t know if there was blood on the ponchos or not because the aw doesn’t state if there was blood or not on the ponchos.
I’m sorry it dose say blood like stain down a little further I missed it
 
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unlike FD, she appears attentive, respectful, even cheerful and interested in going on with her rug business and tending to her daughter. she does not seem angry or belligerent. if she was coached about how to act in court, she got the lesson, IMO. also shows how difficult home confinement is - once you can go to a store, can you go to two stores? can you get a hair cut? once you are at a grocery, can you stop for coffee and a bathroom? fuzzy.
Who really cares about MT, or her home, whaaaa confinement, IMO
 
  • #876
I don't believe we, WSers, have enough info to connect the dots on JFD disposal.
If we had access to all the info LE has, the full
tracking on vehicles and phones and forensics found at MS, maybe we could contribute.
If I recall, when 80MS was being searched there had been several spring rainfalls which
would have washed away any outside tracings
of blood in the yard, etc. Same with a temporary grave. IMO there was a long time lapse from her death in AM on 5/24 and when
80 MS was searched. The news hasn't made much of this delay but I believe it played a huge part in not finding or even tracking where the body went.
Not sure why LE spent so much time and expense searching MIRA unless they were positive that's where the body went. Were they
positive or was this an effort to make up for lost time and effort on the weekend of 5/24-5/25?
Sure wish we could see the discovery LE has.
I do believe LE did find evidence at MIRA. Just not JD body.
 
  • #877
These few choice quotes reveal a distinct disdain and lack of respect for women in general. I don’t believe he would dare to imagine and then put into words “strangling” or “slapping down” a male colleague. He reserves this powerful imagery solely for females. IMO
I understand. However, I think he admired her. She was not afraid of PT. Basically, he's see's himself in her. His opinion that he wanted to strangle her is honest, even if not appropriate. He really looks foward to coming up against her again. NP loves the show, the fight, the dance if you will. Make no mistake NP respects SH, MOO.
 
  • #878
I may have missed this in prior threads but did we ever discuss how FD used the pound ridge place as a NC office and also MM house in providence as a Rhode Island office?

No, @kimch33kim, these issues haven't been specifically addressed so far as I know. We have discussed the Farber Pound Ridge house in general, Fd building the guest house, the Fd bills from the guest house which were presented in the Civil Trial, JFd/Fd original plan to move to Pound Ridge prior to MT affair happening - this plan cratered, LE searching Pound Ridge post JFd murder with assistance of NYS Police, and GF selling Pound Ridge at what appeared to be a loss to an LLC entity that we cannot find any information about.

But, no, no info that I can recall about Fd continuing to use the Pound Ridge house. Just generally I would have thought that this would have ended once JFd moved to NC and the divorce was in process. Are you suggesting that Fd still used the Pound Ridge house after the divorce process kicked off?

On Rhode Island I hadn't seen much evidence of Fd doing any work up there other than the Block Island house for the Masiello family. I think early on some property searches were undertaken there looking for FORE and I don't think anything was found. Have you found any other info to suggest more activity by Fd in Block Island such that he would need an office? Or, could he have purchased a house or land there in an LLC that possibly KM might have helped him with or ever perhaps MM?

If there are Fd properties out there in LLCs or Partnerships then it would make sense to find them IMO. There has been evidence along the way of looking at FORE that Fd sometimes looked to have optioned property tracts. So, if you see this practice happening in Rhode Island it might make sense to pursue it and see if anything is there.

On the Masiello connection I have to really wonder if the loans were in fact funded and whether they weren't part of some paperwork scam to push GF further down the list in terms of priority on the Sturbridge property etc. Do you have any suggestions on other projects where Masiello and Fd/FORE were working together, perhaps behind an LLC or Partnership?

MOO
 
  • #879
These few choice quotes reveal a distinct disdain and lack of respect for women in general. I don’t believe he would dare to imagine and then put into words “strangling” or “slapping down” a male colleague. He reserves this powerful imagery solely for females. IMO

I agree 100%, especially in light of his body of work and behavior.
 
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Scroll & Roll. :cool:
This is the best post I have read so far this evening. Speaking Only for myself, I never feel compelled to answer a post I suspect is disingenuous or diversionary nor am I obligated to read what every poster writes.
Sometimes the posts say more about the poster than the case so I just move on ! IMO
 
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