Still Missing CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #54

[Tink56]

Yeah, but what about the Lifetime movie “Gone Mom”? Do we think he was a contributor, and if it was before the ruling, will it matter?

ITA...What was Lifetime thinking when they decided to produce a movie about a "disappearance" in which the case is still active in court? Am sure if NP was asked, he contributed to the information on which the film is based....He wouldn't have been able to contain himself.

 

[Jmoose]

Interesting perspective on Jennifers' Law from Jennifer's atty in the attached video.

While I am not a fan of Shannon Miller due to her close ties to Schoenhorn and MT, it's a worthy watch. MOO

Definitely an interesting perspective by Jennifer’s divorce atty...in a way, I think he is right about some abuse is likely; but I rhink it is still far more likely that the truly abused spouse will have their claims ignored without the law.

 

[Morgan10028]

ITA...What was Lifetime thinking when they decided to produce a movie about a "disappearance" in which the case is still active in court? Am sure if NP was asked, he contributed to the information on which the film is based....He wouldn't have been able to contain himself.

@Tink, this interview might explain a little bit more about it. Maybe NP wasn't involved after all?

Dan Abrams talks "Court Cam," "Kennedy's Avenger" book, and "Gone Mom" Lifetime special

 

[HopeForTheBest]

At least we won't hear from Pattis about his G-G theories. Maybe. See Lisa Backus story.

"FARMINGTON — Attorneys Norm Pattis and Kevin Smith have agreed to not discuss the Jennifer Dulos disappearance for the next four decades as part of a lawsuit settlement over legal fees they received weeks before their client’s suicide, according to a settlement awaiting the approval of a probate court judge."

Why Norm Pattis cannot discuss Jennifer Dulos disappearance for 40 years


"Pattis and Smith are also banned from discussing the two remaining co-defendants in the case, Michelle Troconis, the former girlfriend of Fotis Dulos, and Kent Mawhinney, his former friend and attorney. Troconis and Mawhinney have each pleaded not guilty to conspiracy to commit murder and their cases remain pending."

GF and her lawyers are brilliant thinking of this! What a way to protect those kids and keep them from having to hear NP’s fantasy bilge! I’m happy we won’t have to hear it, either! Once again, GF gave up money for the good of those kids. I admire her so much. What a contrast between her and all the others we’ve seen in this case including FD and MT trying—and too often succeeding—to take, take, take for their own gain from JFD, GF, and what would belong to the kids. MOO.

 

[Laughing]

Say, anyone think that Michelle Troconis' Miami divorce includes a pysch eval?

The divorce action that was filed after she moved to Connecticut with Jennifer's husband???

Could someone arrange one for Mama A-T?

Preferably a complete study, with an appropriately licensed practitioner who goes to court & is complies with the judge and is examined by both sides? Complete.

IMHO all those pictures of Michelle Troconis are all the evaluation I need --

crotch grab
double bird
'artistic' nudes, 2 in the house, one over the bed she shared with the children's father

Rather complete, that.

Not particularly articulate, but where's my Barfing emoji?

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[Tink56]

GF and her lawyers are brilliant thinking of this! What a way to protect those kids and keep them from having to hear NP’s fantasy bilge! I’m happy we won’t have to hear it, either! Once again, GF gave up money for the good of those kids. I admire her so much. What a contrast between her and all the others we’ve seen in this case including FD and MT trying—and too often succeeding—to take, take, take for their own gain from JFD, GF, and what would belong to the kids. MOO.

I didn't realize that this isn't a "done deal" yet. Judge Evelyn Daly has o approve the decision, but I would hope she's anxious to get the estate closed.

Hopefully JS won't object, since he inserted himself into the probate trial....

From the CT Post:
"The agreement, if approved by Probate Judge Evelyn Daly and signed by all parties, would prohibit anyone involved from commenting on the settlement other than confirming they have consented to the plan, the filing shows. The parties also cannot publicly disparage each other, according to the agreement."

Why Norm Pattis cannot discuss Jennifer Dulos disappearance for 40 years

 

[Tink56]

@Tink, this interview might explain a little bit more about it. Maybe NP wasn't involved after all?

Dan Abrams talks "Court Cam," "Kennedy's Avenger" book, and "Gone Mom" Lifetime special

Thanks Morgan....I remain concerned as Abrams said the Gone Mom program is dramatized, but based on "the facts of the case."

Whose facts?.....Hmmmmmmm

(Edited to add: A lot of people are making money off of the death/disappearance of JFD....AirMail writer, Abrams and Lifetime....NBC Dateline, etc. This makes me sad for the kids and family. )

 

[Morgan10028]

Thanks Morgan....I remain concerned as Abrams said the Gone Mom program is dramatized, but based on "the facts of the case."

Whose facts?.....Hmmmmmmm

(Edited to add: A lot of people are making money off of the death/disappearance of JFD....AirMail writer, Abrams and Lifetime....NBC Dateline, etc. This makes me sad for the kids and family. )

Oh, I am concerned as well, though a little more hopeful with Abrams involved (mostly given how closely I follow Jennifer's case specifically on Law & Crime). I didn't know before today the the movie will be followed by a documentary on the case.

Let's hope the facts are based on evidence. Can anything else be considered fact?

As for the ETA above...we're here for Jennifer, though her story is also giving a voice to many more cases like hers that may never have had the attention they deserve. Based on the family statement released last week, the family is determined to see the day justice comes for her as well as for other victims. The shows are background noise, though also making more people aware of DV. I have never thought for a minute that the family is upset over the money that is being made while also raising the awareness...

 

[HopeForTheBest]

I didn't realize that this isn't a "done deal" yet. Judge Evelyn Daly has o approve the decision, but I would hope she's anxious to get the estate closed.

Hopefully JS won't object, since he inserted himself into the probate trial....

From the CT Post:
"The agreement, if approved by Probate Judge Evelyn Daly and signed by all parties, would prohibit anyone involved from commenting on the settlement other than confirming they have consented to the plan, the filing shows. The parties also cannot publicly disparage each other, according to the agreement."

Why Norm Pattis cannot discuss Jennifer Dulos disappearance for 40 years

Oh, gosh. I didn’t realize that, either.

 

[pernickety]

@Tink, this interview might explain a little bit more about it. Maybe NP wasn't involved after all?

Dan Abrams talks "Court Cam," "Kennedy's Avenger" book, and "Gone Mom" Lifetime special

Abrams said movie would be followed by a "documentary." I wonder how they couldn't include NP in that.

 

[pernickety]

Thanks Morgan....I remain concerned as Abrams said the Gone Mom program is dramatized, but based on "the facts of the case."

Whose facts?.....Hmmmmmmm

(Edited to add: A lot of people are making money off of the death/disappearance of JFD....AirMail writer, Abrams and Lifetime....NBC Dateline, etc. This makes me sad for the kids and family. )

And the documentary that will follow--according to Abrams--wouldn't that be even more "factual" than the movie?

 

[pernickety]

You can bet that the contents of that report are going to be made public. That is the whole point of Schoenhorn getting his hands on it-it has no other value to him or to MT. This will be the next salvo sent over the Farbers’ bow...to dirty up the reputation of Jennifer Dulos. As if the fact that fD and MT deliberately tried to drive her crazy was her fault.

My guess is that MT wants the custody report bc it says something nice about MT.

 

[sds71]

Obviously
It was to keep her daughters name out of Norm’s mouth.

“Attorney Weinstein and his clients are wasting whatever resources the Estate may have, which is not
surprising since the true motive for the suit obviously is something other than money."
Norm Pattis, Fotis Dulos' Lawyer, Sued Over Retainer Payment

"Ms. Farber, who has more money than any person ought to have and doesn't need or even want anymore…”
Jennifer Dulos' Mother Against Settling With Norm Pattis: Lawyer

 

[pernickety]

Obviously
It was to keep her daughters name out of Norm’s mouth.

“Attorney Weinstein and his clients are wasting whatever resources the Estate may have, which is not
surprising since the true motive for the suit obviously is something other than money."
Norm Pattis, Fotis Dulos' Lawyer, Sued Over Retainer Payment

"Ms. Farber, who has more money than any person ought to have and doesn't need or even want anymore…”
Jennifer Dulos' Mother Against Settling With Norm Pattis: Lawyer

Here's just one of the comments about the NC Patch article you posted:


"Tom Galvin, Neighbor

New Canaan, CT|Sep 24

Donald T. Duck I don’t think Pattis found it advantageous to have Dulos dead. Pattis is, for want of a better term, a “showboat” and the Dulos trial was guaranteed to be the ultimate media circus for Pattis’s antics. Pattis ...for his own reasons... certainly wanted the trial (and the media attention) to take place. However, Pattis was negligent in not providing Dulos with better supervision on the morning of his emergency bail hearing: many criminal attorneys recognize the mortal risk to clients who are in a situation where an adverse ruling may send the client to jail for life. Pattis should at least have sent one of his associates to shepherd Dulos to court that morning.
I see the grab of the $250K retainer as a separate, after the fact, issue that may raise an ethics issue for Pattis; clearly, he should have returned at least a portion of that money to Dulos’s estate."

I so agree.

 

[sds71]

Some stills from the movie and quotes from the actors:

Q) Did either of you come to a conclusion of whether or not you really felt that Dulos was guilty or not? Or do you try not to judge the characters that you’re portraying?

Annabeth Gish: Warren that’s to you. That was a good question.

Warren Christie: I wouldn’t want to comment on it too much, and I think it’s really important.

Annabeth Gish: He thinks Fotis is guilty.

https://starrymag.com/annabeth-gish-warren-christie-ilene-kahn-power-gail-harvey-gone-mom/

Gone Mom: The Disappearance of Jennifer Dulos | Lifetime

 

[HopeForTheBest]

Obviously
It was to keep her daughters name out of Norm’s mouth.

“Attorney Weinstein and his clients are wasting whatever resources the Estate may have, which is not
surprising since the true motive for the suit obviously is something other than money."
Norm Pattis, Fotis Dulos' Lawyer, Sued Over Retainer Payment

"Ms. Farber, who has more money than any person ought to have and doesn't need or even want anymore…”
Jennifer Dulos' Mother Against Settling With Norm Pattis: Lawyer

Good for her! I admire her so much! She is a role model for me with her strength and determination to do all she can for those kids and for justice for her daughter. MOO.

 

[sds71]

In interviews with Hearst Connecticut Media, the actors and the movie’s executive producer said they aimed to raise awareness to domestic violence while honoring the New Canaan mother’s memory and respecting her family and five children...

The writers took liberties with the relationship and some of the plot twists, but the crew, including Kahn Power, were dedicated to honoring the memory of Jennifer Dulos while producing a thought-provoking film about domestic violence, the actors said. There were people on the set who opened up during filming about their own stories of abusive relationships, Kahn Power said…

Kahn Power recently discussed the movie with Carrie Luft, the close friend of Jennifer Dulos who has served as the family’s spokesperson since the disappearance. Kahn Power said she assured Luft that care was taken in telling Jennifer’s story. “I feel we did justice to her,” Kahn Power said.
Luft did not participate in the movie and has declined to comment about it…

“We tried to take the high road as much as possible and be as truthful as possible with the story and touch other women who are victims of abuse,” Kahn Power said.

Meet 'Gone Mom' actors who play Fotis and Jennifer Dulos and why one scene haunts them

 

[Tink56]

In interviews with Hearst Connecticut Media, the actors and the movie’s executive producer said they aimed to raise awareness to domestic violence while honoring the New Canaan mother’s memory and respecting her family and five children...

The writers took liberties with the relationship and some of the plot twists, but the crew, including Kahn Power, were dedicated to honoring the memory of Jennifer Dulos while producing a thought-provoking film about domestic violence, the actors said. There were people on the set who opened up during filming about their own stories of abusive relationships, Kahn Power said…

Kahn Power recently discussed the movie with Carrie Luft, the close friend of Jennifer Dulos who has served as the family’s spokesperson since the disappearance. Kahn Power said she assured Luft that care was taken in telling Jennifer’s story. “I feel we did justice to her,” Kahn Power said.
Luft did not participate in the movie and has declined to comment about it…

“We tried to take the high road as much as possible and be as truthful as possible with the story and touch other women who are victims of abuse,” Kahn Power said.

Meet 'Gone Mom' actors who play Fotis and Jennifer Dulos and why one scene haunts them

Thank you so much for finding and posting this sds71! The fact that Kahn Power took the time to visit with Carrie Luft eases some of my fears about this movie.

Jennifer should honored and treated with care while the State of CT works at some semblance of justice.

 

[HopeForTheBest]

My guess is that MT wants the custody report bc it says something nice about MT.

I say this without intending to be snarky although I have thought of a lot of comments that would be although still true: I can’t imagine how a child custody report about JFD’s five kids could possibly have anything good to say about the married father’s mistress who had been carrying on an affair with FD for years behind JFD’s back including going on trips paid for with JFD’s money and then living in the house that JFD and the kids had to flee to try to get away from FD and his threats. And then there’s the fact that MT had agreed to live there with her child and FD with JFD and the kids there, too; that really sounds like a person who cares about the feelings of others like the five Dulos kids plus those of her own child. It was an insulting idea that JFD nixed knowing what a terrible thing that would be for the kids and her. Then, after the affair was revealed, MT, knowing that she was not supposed to be around when FD had the kids there, violated those rules and hung around anyway, putting the poor Dulos kids in a terrible position. Just those two things alone make me wonder how that could be. If it does, that surely had to be a very rough draft and I’d wonder how a psychologist could come to that conclusion. I’d wonder a LOT about that entire situation and want to know exactly how that occurred and based on what standards of practice, given how strict the rules are for psychologists in terms of ethics such as with dual relationships (assessing a mistress and the cheating husband and the devoted mom who was still married to the cheating husband?), record keeping such as with draft reports, confidentiality, and not practicing beyond the scope of one’s expertise including not making hasty judgments without the proper assessment. Yes, I’d wonder. I DO wonder. What does the psychologist have to say about it? Hmmm. Surely the state licensing board for psychologists is aware of all of this and reviewing it to be sure that no one was harmed through any possible violations of the rules that psychologists must follow. MOO.

 

[Laughing]

I've never worked in Family Court.

Long ago I worked in mortgage processing.

There are many parts to a mortgage, and if you've purchased a home you remember at least some of the parts. The parts vary by location.

Incomplete parts mean you don't have a mortgage. Incomplete parts stop the entire process. Incomplete parts mean you cannot buy the house.

incomplete real estate transaction paperwork means no mortgage, no house
incomplete title search means no mortgage, no house
incomplete water & sewer report means no mortgage, no house
incomplete inspection means no mortgage, no house
incomplete credit history means no mortgage, no house
incomplete work history means no mortgage, no house
incomplete appraisal means no mortgage, no house
incomplete survey means no mortgage, no house

Now my experience isn't decades long, and I have owned few properties, but I have never heard of a realtor, a title company, a county sanitarian, a structural engineer, a credit reporting agency, an employer, an appraiser, or a surveyor refusing to answer the lender's questions about their work or about the house.


Why did Michelle Troconis' side want that incomplete document so much? That document was part of stalling that divorce, the divorce that might have benefited Michi so much.

Why? Why?


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