Still Missing CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #59

[Diddian]

Was she down on her knees in this video, at the end with her attorney??

It appeared that way to me.

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

Maybe what some call ‘fox-hole‘ prayers perhaps? MOO

 

[Jmoose]

It appeared that way to me.

How dramatic! “You have to get me out of this mess!” is what it looked like to me. She could have helped herself out, by ‘fessing up, first to her attorney, and then to the cops. She would have been in a lot less trouble.

 

[Diddian]

It appeared that way to me.

It's all fun and games while you're in your little bubble making plans to get what you want (everyone else be damned).

Then, reality comes calling and others point out to you the weak spots in your plan that are going to nail you. And you get on your knees and beg to be saved.

Sorry, MT. Salvation requires confession of and contrition about what you really did. Taking it on your shoulders, your sins exposed.

If she thinks she suffered in that interview room, she has NO IDEA what awaits her for eternity absent coming clean.

Where is Jennifer?

 

[afitzy]

Attorney Bowman is doing his best to avoid "conspiracy" charges for his client - telling the officers that the person they are seeing as they interview her is the same person that he has been seeing as his client. Telling them that he sees, as they are seeing, that her relationship with Fotis is definitely over. But she is definitely not picking up on this attempt to separate her from Fotis and to allow her to tell the truth.

Instead, she is laying her head on the table. She still wants the rewards of the conspiracy's efforts. (ETA: She has confidence that their plans have resulted in adequate cover to get away with the murder.)

This testimony IMO is much worse that even I imagined based on the snippets we have viewed so far.

No wonder Defence tried to get it quashed.

Drama central and MT was at the centre of it. The byzantine web she tried to weave today for law enforcement could only come from the mind of a sociopath imo. Today's testimony from MT was without few exceptions ALL ABOUT HER.

To listen to an ignorant an ill informed MT talking about the Victim and her mental health really is sickening as well as appalling.

I honesty smell a rat and my guess is that Mama Troconis was feeding MT a psycho-babble narrative on how to manage the professional reports to facilitate the custody process and frankly this sickens me to see the Troconis family wrapped up into no doubt pushing and prodding the ignorant MT.

MT was totally into the drama of the custody based on all we heard today and was no doubt needling and prodding FD endlessly and no wonder she said, "...we fight all the time".

I just clocked it and MT spoke about mental health of Victim AND HOW SHE WAS AFRAID FOR HERSELF as she would be with FD for the rest of her life for nearly 5 minutes and how it was important it was that they spoke with a psychologist to get a professional opinion until Detectives directed her to talk about the properties again.

MOO

 

[afitzy]

Because they are putting on a show. Don’t forget, Mt’s mother is a criminal-or maybe you don’t know that she was defrauding the Medicaid system and got caught doing it. Then turned her practice’s office into a legal office and her employees into legal researchers so the office couldnnt be searched and the employees couldn’t be questioned. And don’t forget that they all have spent the last 4 years disparaging the victim. Not very Catholic/Christian of them, is it?

I think I just might need to do my 10 Commandments post about MT and the Troconis clan based on available information to date and I didn't want to do it...but, the rosary beads simply did me in and to use religious symbols that are very important to the Church simply as a prop for Press Coverage and CLICKS is not right. Not right at all....disgusted and its disgusting.
MOO

 

[Alkali13]

Was she down on her knees in this video, at the end with her attorney??

That's what I saw, literally begging him.

 

[afitzy]

Wasn't the reason MT's crying in court while her interview is being played in court is because she understands now how ridiculous her alibi list is and how it doesn't protect her from "cleaning Jennifer."

The vehicles she drove that day were aligned with Fotis' for much of the time after her breakfast omelet. That is, when she wasn't staging photos and driving to an empty lake with only hope that someone would pull her. I'm appalled that she ordered a sandwich while at Starbucks following the Albany Odyssey. Barf.

MT says more than once in her interview that she was upset. She stayed dramatically upset. I think that it's just born in her to be upset; and demanding and selfish and ambitious. How much prodding did she do to convince Fotis their evil deeds would go unpunished? We know she didn't try to stop him. She facilitated his their hideous deeds. jmoo

Nope, I don't for a second believe MT cares about how ridiculous she looked in her testimony of lies and more lies today because I think she is incapable of thinking she did anything wrong or embarrassing.

The ONLY thing I think MT MIGHT be upset about is the fact that law enforcement wasn't buying what she was selling and that SHE WAS CAUGHT. Both of these issues made her angry. She didn't care about FD too much, certainly didn't care about the Victim or her family and she absolutely didn't care about the 5 Dulos Children. I even seriously question whether MT cared too much about her daughter as what mother (and a single mother at that) would undertake any of the choices that she had been making for 5 years in her relationship with FD.

Your words of "Demanding, Selfish and Ambitious" are Perfect to describe so much of what we heard today as is classic narcissism imo.

MT appears to have the inability to think about anyone other than herself. Very few sentences she uttered today (even when lying imo) weren't about herself.

One narcissist can be very destructive to the people around them imo but to combine two narcissists as we see in this tragic case had tragic consequences. Hearing what we heard today I very much wonder if we are possibly witnessing a classic folie à duex, where the two (MT and FD) simply fed off of each other in a highly unhealthy way and planned and executed the murder of the person that they blamed for ALL their problems in life and thought that they would get away with it and the Farber money.

Stunning stuff today.
MOO

 

[carolmaria]

One narcissist can be very destructive to the people around them imo but to combine two narcissists as we see in this tragic case had tragic consequences. Hearing what we heard today I very much wonder if we are possibly witnessing a classic folie à duex, where the two (MT and FD) simply fed off of each other in a highly unhealthy way and planned and executed the murder of the person that they blamed for ALL their problems in life and thought that they would get away with it and the Farber money.

Stunning stuff today.
MOO

(snipped for emphasis)
You said it more eloquently than I ever could. Thank you.

So many past cases; the most recent that come to mind are the Daybell and Frazee ones of course. Details & degree vary; what’s common is personalities with a propensity for cruelty combusting into delusion and devastation.

ETA: And yes, am also gobsmacked (but sadly, not surprised) that her tears have dropped only today. Stone faced for Jennifer when viewing her bloody clothing. MOO

 

[citygirl]

It appeared that way to me.

I found it really unsettling.
MOO.

 

[Diddian]

Did anyone catch that MT handed the FedEx envelope to FD?

I caught that the officer told MT that in the interview, but I did not see that visually on the video. To me, it appeared that, after dropping something white into the garbage bin at the curb behind the Raptor, FD strolled over to the storm drain opening beside MT's open passenger door and tucked the envelope into that opening.

Either LE has access to a clearer video than we saw OR they were saying that to see if she'd correct them. (Or, possibly to plant the fear that LE might have her prints on the envelope...?)

 

[Curious-A]

I couldn’t watch the whole trial today but was this brought up yet?


BRIDGEPORT — State police say a truck Fotis Dulos had access to the day his wife disappeared contained a “bloodlike substance” found to contain Jennifer Dulos’ DNA.
Five days after the disappearance, Fotis Dulos had the vehicle cleaned. In an interview with police, his girlfriend, Michelle Troconis, allegedly said he had the truck washed “because the body of Jennifer at some point was in there.”

BBM

https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/local/article/Jennifer-Dulos-estranged-husband-faces-new-14413850.php

 

[afitzy]

I found it really unsettling.
MOO.

Frankly, imo it was positively chilling.

I''m a bit behind on the feed but had to take a break because it was simply too upsetting to contemplate that this was MT just a few days after the murder.

MOO

 

[Alkali13]

I caught that the officer told MT that in the interview, but I did not see that visually on the video. To me, it appeared that, after dropping something white into the garbage bin at the curb behind the Raptor, FD strolled over to the storm drain opening beside MT's open passenger door and tucked the envelope into that opening.

Either LE has access to a clearer video than we saw OR they were saying that to see if she'd correct them. (Or, possibly to plant the fear that LE might have her prints on the envelope...?)

Yes, I was taken aback by that as well since, to me at least, it's clear the FedEx mailer is in his hands the entire time.

 

[Baby baby Jane]

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Waterski area known to him?, boat ramps, desolate areas (June tho hot and people using water …)

 

[Baby baby Jane]

Not a fan of the Daily Mail, but is it an approved source? Glad to delete.

Michelle Troconis SOBS in court as detective dismantles her story

Troconis broke down in tears, dabbed her nose with a tissue, and placed her hands on her head in a moment of anguish as lead detective on the case John Kimball highlighted apparent lies she told.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Good grief no plea was a bad decision, IMO

You could see her wiping tears away, this was after you see her on her knees in pleading posture in interrogation room. She is crying for herself. No tears at the bloody bra or shirt. But tears for herself.

 

[Mysticeilis]

Not a fan of the Daily Mail, but is it an approved source? Glad to delete.

Michelle Troconis SOBS in court as detective dismantles her story

Troconis broke down in tears, dabbed her nose with a tissue, and placed her hands on her head in a moment of anguish as lead detective on the case John Kimball highlighted apparent lies she told.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Good grief no plea was a bad decision, IMO

Oh, my! mt certainly didn’t shed a tear when they showed JFd’s bloody clothing! What a piece of work! JUSTICE FOR JENNIFER!

 

[Baby baby Jane]

MOOMOOMOOMOO

Trying to keep up with this, my brain has carpal tunnel.

Observation: defendant is one self-centered individual. I detect a lot of "I wants" like everything is hers for the taking. She seems annoyed with the divorce, custody. Wants her life the way she wants it without all that drama. Also gullible, believing every ridiculous assertion FD makes.

What I find hugely disgusting is, fine, maybe she was bamboozled by FD and thought things were one way (Jennifer costing them money) when in reality they were another (Fotis was stealing Jennifer's money) that she didn't immediately (or ever) cooperate with the police, realizing she'd been lied to too. Nope, she owns this. She wanted this. She wanted the thing (person! Not thing, not toothbrush, person, mother, Jen) gone that was interfering with her life.

I hope the jury is able to reconcile the matronly beige woman they see in the courtroom with the woman on the video, lying with ease.

They thought they were going to get away with this. Probably off to Greece for months at a time, curating professional waterskiiers out of the oldest two and schlepping AL along with them to parent the youngers. All while riding on trust funds, living the good life, in homes built with Farber money.

Fail.

MOOMOOMOOMOO

Hated her psychology reporting and her list of “borderline disorder” behaviors as if anyone would believe the mistress in custody hearing. Like forgetting things on holiday w 5 kids is a psych problem ? She’s the one with the issues, JF certainly stress w these 2 in her life.

 

[wizardbizzoom]

I've been closely following the updates and discussions here about Jennifer Dulos's case. It's truly a heart-wrenching situation, and each new detail from the court proceedings just adds to the complexity and tragedy of the case.
Regarding the recent post about the interviews to be played in court, it's intriguing to see how the legal process is unfolding. The agreement between the prosecution (P) and defense (D) to play the tapes with certain rules in place is a significant development. It seems like the prosecution is pretty confident about the content of these interviews, especially with the mention of dropping the rules if a "language barrier" is brought up. This kind of strategy in court is always fascinating, albeit a bit like a chess game with high stakes.
Also, the point about the potential prejudice from the jury due to certain defenses like pleading the fifth or asking for an attorney is quite interesting. It's a delicate balance for the defense to maintain credibility while vigorously representing their client.

 

[Baby baby Jane]

I caught that the officer told MT that in the interview, but I did not see that visually on the video. To me, it appeared that, after dropping something white into the garbage bin at the curb behind the Raptor, FD strolled over to the storm drain opening beside MT's open passenger door and tucked the envelope into that opening.

Either LE has access to a clearer video than we saw OR they were saying that to see if she'd correct them. (Or, possibly to plant the fear that LE might have her prints on the envelope...?)

When they showed the FedEx drop footage, you can see MT in passenger seat, just barely, but she appears to be getting something out of the back seat. Turning and reaching back to her left. I think they conclude she is getting fedex from back seat and putting it on the front seat for FD.