Silver Alert CT- Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019

[MyBelle]

Thanks for this insight. But the GAL process is one that frankly I find unsettling and I am not 100% sure that the State of CT has the best track record in looking out for minors as I recall some extremely sad cases of abuse and true negligence by the State over the years. But I guess that sadly no State has a perfect record in looking after its children.

The children aren't in the custody of the State of Ct and I doubt they will be. The GAL had already recommended to the court that the father have only supervised access to them. I doubt that will change especially now that they are physically in NYC.

JMO

 

[Sherlockhemlock]

Hummm what if her ex isn't involved at all and it's someone else that maybe she ticked off.

Ok. I’ll bite. Like who? She was a journalist. What did she write? She knew her way around the legal system and seems to have decent lawyers. Yet so far it appears she only feared FD. JMO

 

[MassGuy]

Hummm what if her ex isn't involved at all and it's someone else that maybe she ticked off.

This person had to have known her schedule.

Anyone else probably wouldn’t have a reason to remove the body, and clean the crime scene.

Her ex has all the motive in the world.

 

[enelram]

This person had to have known her schedule.

Anyone else probably wouldn’t have a reason to remove the body, and clean the crime scene.

Her ex has all the motive in the world.

Yes to all you said plus if he is as much as a control freak as the
divorce papers allege, he could have put tracking technology on
her vehicle and placed an app on her ipad to know her appt. schedule.
He most likely knew where she was every minute of every day.

 

[MassGuy]

Yes to all you said plus if he is as much as a control freak as the
divorce papers allege, he could have put tracking technology on
her vehicle and placed an app on her ipad to know her appt. schedule.
He most likely knew where she was every minute of every day.

It’s possible that he went that far.

At a bare minimum though, he would know her general schedule.

Perhaps she always returned home immediately after dropping the kids off at school.

 

[enelram]

It’s possible that he went that far.

At a bare minimum though, he would know her general schedule.

Perhaps she always returned home immediately after dropping the kids off at school.

One of her friends described her as very "organized" which would
say to me that she had a routine for keeping track of everything.
With 5 active kids I'm sure she needed an appt. scheduling method, for soccer practice, horseback riding lessons, dance classes, etc. She was probably very predictable in her life.

 

[afitzy]

Hummm what if her ex isn't involved at all and it's someone else that maybe she ticked off.

What are you suggesting? Her life revolved around her children and she didn't appear involved in the real estate business. So far as we know she didn't work outside the home as with 5 young children she was no doubt quite busy! I suppose anything is possible but the two major things that appear to be going on in her life is resolving the custody/divorce situation and looking out for the welfare of her children. I guess we can never say never on any theory but I'm curious as to where your ideas are taking you? She had alot on her plate so far as I can tell.

 

[afitzy]

The children aren't in the custody of the State of Ct and I doubt they will be. The GAL had already recommended to the court that the father have only supervised access to them. I doubt that will change especially now that they are physically in NYC.

JMO

My concern is that the existing arrangement was in place because the mother had primary physical cusody. If the mother is not around to take on the care of the children and the father was on supervised custody, I'm not sure what options are available to the court as we have seen grandparents in other cases that were ready willing and able to care for children to be turned down by the court and the children returned to a parent that was unfit or put into foster care. My suspicion is the the grandmother will legally fight a good fight to protect the children but I'm trying to better understand the states options regarding the children if the father puts up a fight which based on what we know seems inevitable given his propensity to win at all costs. It seems unrealistic to expect the state to allow the children to simply remain with the grandmother in NYC for a prolonged period of time.

 

[Inthedetails]

My concern is that the existing arrangement was in place because the mother had primary physical cusody. If the mother is not around to take on the care of the children and the father was on supervised custody, I'm not sure what options are available to the court as we have seen grandparents in other cases that were ready willing and able to care for children to be turned down by the court and the children returned to a parent that was unfit or put into foster care. My suspicion is the the grandmother will legally fight a good fight to protect the children but I'm trying to better understand the states options regarding the children if the father puts up a fight which based on what we know seems inevitable given his propensity to win at all costs. It seems unrealistic to expect the state to allow the children to simply remain with the grandmother in NYC for a prolonged period of time.

I'm concerned too. And that's why I feel like this is an urgent race against the clock (even more so than in a "regular" disappeared person case) to find Jennifer and to have clear evidence for charges against the perp.

Fingers and toes crossed for quick resolution...because of the custody issue. Such a tough situation.

jmo

 

[afitzy]

https://nypost.com/2019/05/30/kin-o...-mom-blocks-estranged-hubby-from-seeing-kids/

The NYP discusses the provision about visitation which might allow the STBX to claim the children. Very concerning. Will have to see if the document is public or sealed.

 

[bestill]

Biggest fear for her family regarding the kids to me is dad getting custody and taking the kids out of the country, they would be gone forever to them. His threat would come true, Jennifer is out of the picture and the kids are under his control.

 

[Sherlockhemlock]

It’s possible that he went that far.

At a bare minimum though, he would know her general schedule.

Perhaps she always returned home immediately after dropping the kids off at school.

It’s also possible He hired a PI of his own (one of the articles stated she had one) to find out, perhaps under the guise of getting dirt for the divorce.

 

[Spider92]

Hummm what if her ex isn't involved at all and it's someone else that maybe she ticked off.

Hey Debbie, anything is possible and it seems to me we have only conjecture and circumstancel evidence at this time. I think the most obvious scenario will be realized but who knows?
I’m wondering about the kids. I know the husband is largely viewed as a jerk but there are five kids and at least one of them must like, and be asking to see Dad. A parent is missing and it’s only natural that a child seek comfort from the other parent. How in the world do you deal with that if there is no evidence to indicate a crime has been committed by Dad? What seems likely to us might seem impossible to a child. A very challenging case for grandma and the social workers

 

[GordianKnot]

A parent is missing and it’s only natural that a child seek comfort from the other parent. How in the world do you deal with that if there is no evidence to indicate a crime has been committed by Dad? What seems likely to us might seem impossible to a child. A very challenging case for grandma and the social workers

RSABBM:

I understand what you're saying and share your concerns re: the kids.
However, there absolutely IS evidence here to indicate a crime has been committed:

JD has been missing for a full week.
No one has heard from her in that time.
Her vehicle was found abandoned.
LE found blood in the home.
LE is treating it as a crime scene.
FD is the only one with apparent motive.

I do think LE will officially identify him as a POI if push comes to shove and they need to do that in order to prevent FD from gaining custody of the kids.

JMO.

 

[Spider92]

RSABBM:

I understand what you're saying and share your concerns re: the kids.
However, there absolutely IS evidence here to indicate a crime has been committed:

JD has been missing for a full week.
No one has heard from her in that time.
Her vehicle was found abandoned.
LE found blood in the home.
LE is treating it as a crime scene.
FD is the only one with apparent motive.

I do think LE will officially identify him as a POI if push comes to shove and they need to do that in order to prevent FD from gaining custody of the kids.

JMO.

Many of those are evidence of a crime but not one “by Dad”. I’m not saying he’s innocent. I’m asking what you tell the kids if you just don’t know for sure.

 

[Sherlockhemlock]

RSABBM:

I understand what you're saying and share your concerns re: the kids.
However, there absolutely IS evidence here to indicate a crime has been committed:

JD has been missing for a full week.
No one has heard from her in that time.
Her vehicle was found abandoned.
LE found blood in the home.
LE is treating it as a crime scene.
FD is the only one with apparent motive.

I do think LE will officially identify him as a POI if push comes to shove and they need to do that in order to prevent FD from gaining custody of the kids.

JMO.

I also won’t be surprised if her mom files a wrongful death suit against him to prevent him from gaining physical custody. The standard is much lower for civil action and much of the documents from the divorce can be brought in. It would also give the divorce judge an excuse to delay any decision. JMO

 

[GordianKnot]

I also won’t be surprised if her mom files a wrongful death suit against him to prevent him from gaining physical custody. The standard is much lower for civil action and much of the documents from the divorce can be brought in. It would also give the divorce judge an excuse to delay any decision. JMO

Yes, absolutely...I won't be at all surprised, either.
JD's mom is obviously willing to do whatever it takes to protect her grandchildren.
I'm confident this will include looking out for their emotional wellbeing in addition to their physical safety.

This is a strong woman. She's much to be admired.

JMO.

 

[Spider92]

....and I do agree that naming the husband as a POI is a good next step. I don’t know the law but that would probably put the custody issue on ice for a while

 

[citygirl]

Many of those are evidence of a crime but not one “by Dad”. I’m not saying he’s innocent. I’m asking what you tell the kids if you just don’t know for sure.

Agreed. What do you tell the children other than Mommy is missing? And, despite hearing he was hard on the children, he is their Dad. I bet they do miss him. What isn't clear is when is the last time they spent time with him?

 

[Inthedetails]

Many of those are evidence of a crime but not one “by Dad”. I’m not saying he’s innocent. I’m asking what you tell the kids if you just don’t know for sure.

I think the only thing you could say is something like - "We don't know what happened, but the police are working hard to figure it out. They are doing what they can to help us."

How hard it must be to be strong for those five kids while also having a beloved daughter disappear.

jmo