AMBER ALERT CT - Vanessa Morales, 1, missing after mother found deceased, Ansonia, 28 Nov 2019

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  • #461
Omg, this doesnt sound good at all. It's like LE thinks she may have also been killed, and put into a trashcan somewhere?

So will LE go to Bridgeport to search through the trash picked up in this area, and delivered there?

I wonder if the offender was trying to purposefully mislead LE into believing she was kidnapped after they murdered her mom? This way the offender would know all of LEs attention would be concentrated on finding her alive, and safe.

Jmho
I understood the facility they searched and the bins were for charitable donations and not trash bins. We're they trash bins?
 
  • #462
Omg, this doesnt sound good at all. It's like LE thinks she may have also been killed, and put into a trashcan somewhere?

So will LE go to Bridgeport to search through the trash picked up in this area, and delivered there?

I wonder if the offender was trying to purposefully mislead LE into believing she was kidnapped after they murdered her mom? This way the offender would know all of LEs attention would be concentrated on finding her alive, and safe.

Jmho

It sounds to me like they were just covering all their bases.

My understanding is that Bridgeport is an incinerator facility, so if it went there, it's gone.
 
  • #463
We have a couple of cases to compare this to possibly - IMO. Frazee killed Kelsey and had the baby for about a month - he had help with her from his family but it was all in the open. Other significants (spouses, boyfriends) have killed the child and left the mom dead at the scene - Neveah comes to mind. So the killer of mom either killed the baby and took the body with him and there is evidence of her DNA at the house, or he took the baby alive from the house, and gave her to someone perhaps Saturday or Sunday - ? - or he took the baby and killed her after the fact leaving her body somewhere else. Since we don't have a POI we can't speculate about who could have done this but.... if someone close to her did it - I think they will find what they are looking for and it will lead them to the baby. I think someone is hiding something and they are NOT in custody.. JMO.
 
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JUST IN: State police and K9s are searching the woods on Derby Ave in Derby in connection to the abduction of 1-year-old Vanessa Morales.
@News12CT
 
  • #465
JUST IN: State police and K9s are searching the woods on Derby Ave in Derby in connection to the abduction of 1-year-old Vanessa Morales. @News12CT

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Marissa Alter on Twitter
 
  • #466
BREAKING: Several @CT_STATE_POLICE K-9s are now searching for evidence related to missing one year-old Vanessa Morales in the woods above Saint Michael’s Church in #Derby, right next to a parking lot, where investigators searched kids clothing donation bins yesterday. @FOX61News

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Tony Terzi on Twitter
 
  • #467
Family members and even complete strangers spent the morning handing out Amber Alert flyers and hoping someone knows something about where 1 year old Vanessa Morales is. #WFSB

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Matt McFarland on Twitter
 
  • #468
BREAKING: Several @CT_STATE_POLICE K-9s are now searching for evidence related to missing one year-old Vanessa Morales in the woods above Saint Michael’s Church in #Derby, right next to a parking lot, where investigators searched kids clothing donation bins yesterday. @FOX61News

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Tony Terzi on Twitter
I wonder if they have video or cell phone data leading them to this specific area?? ugh.
 
  • #469
The search for Vanessa Morales is going on in the woods behind the parking lot for St. Michaels Church on Derby Ave in Derby. These donation bins in the parking lot let to the search of the Hamden sorting facility yesterday. @News12CT

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Marissa Alter on Twitter
 
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BREAKING: Several @CT_STATE_POLICE K-9s are now searching for evidence related to missing one year-old Vanessa Morales in the woods above Saint Michael’s Church in #Derby, right next to a parking lot, where investigators searched kids clothing donation bins yesterday. @FOX61News

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Tony Terzi on Twitter

It makes my heart sink when they bring in the dogs after the missing child has been gone so long...
 
  • #471
Jose Morales, 43, of New Haven, the father of missing #Ansonia one year-old #VanessaMorales, has been in the custody of @NewHavenPolice since Wednesday, when they found two stun guns in his possession. Being a convicted felon, he is not permitted to own weapons. @FOX61News

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Tony Terzi on Twitter
 
  • #472
Before my heart sinks, I'd have to know what kind of dogs--if they're scent dogs, they could be tracking the path where the killer carried Vanessa through the woods.
 
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curious why Tony would tweet this now???
Yeah, it's curious. I've had a few thoughts about the search and seizure warrant since we found out about it, has anyone seen the warrant? I thought I read in an early article that the warrant was served with the provision that the person (JM) had to be taken to police station before the search was executed?
 
  • #476
Yeah, it's curious. I've had a few thoughts about the search and seizure warrant since we found out about it, has anyone seen the warrant? I thought I read in an early article that the warrant was served with the provision that the person (JM) had to be taken to police station before the search was executed?

I haven't seen the warrant, but I read this too.
 
  • #477
We have a couple of cases to compare this to possibly - IMO. Frazee killed Kelsey and had the baby for about a month - he had help with her from his family but it was all in the open. Other significants (spouses, boyfriends) have killed the child and left the mom dead at the scene - Neveah comes to mind. So the killer of mom either killed the baby and took the body with him and there is evidence of her DNA at the house, or he took the baby alive from the house, and gave her to someone perhaps Saturday or Sunday - ? - or he took the baby and killed her after the fact leaving her body somewhere else. Since we don't have a POI we can't speculate about who could have done this but.... if someone close to her did it - I think they will find what they are looking for and it will lead them to the baby. I think someone is hiding something and they are NOT in custody.. JMO.

This case keeps bringing another one back to me, but the name is escaping me. I think a dead mother and missing child, and the father was seen on TV with mother's parents...LE in that case suspected him from the beginning but didn't let on. Maybe one of you will recall. Many of us commented on the fact that grandma knew the truth but had to pretend to be kind to this man in order to find the baby. This reminds me of that case.
 
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Before my heart sinks, I'd have to know what kind of dogs--if they're scent dogs, they could be tracking the path where the killer carried Vanessa through the woods.

I have a sinking feeling they are more than likely cadaver scenting dogs. :(

Imo
 
  • #480
I have a sinking feeling they are more than likely cadaver scenting dogs. :(

Imo

Me, too. This is awful. These babies are defenseless and have never done a wrong thing in their lives. :(
 
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