AMBER ALERT CT - Vanessa Morales, 1, missing after mother found deceased, Ansonia, 28 Nov 2019

[Dre]

Will post when it is available, but JM's nephew says JM and CH used to live together but didn't since she moved to Ansonia... JM would come to town and stay with family, not CH, but the nephew insists they were together.

Also interesting: The report says JM was last with CH and VM Friday "or possibly Saturday."

Or possibly Saturday? WTH?

Wow, waiting patiently to hear more about THAT

 

[Mistree]

This.

Criminal court records are public in CT though for anyone curious. As I said earlier though, JM's name isn't exactly uncommon, so you can't assume everything you see is necessarily VM's dad.

Thanks, ugh,,,, I don’t like the way this is looking now that I went researching.

 

[Alkali13]

Well that’s not good IMO seems as if she may have been creating some distance ?

Yeah, I'd say it's a pretty clear signal when you used to live with someone, have their child, and now they aren't allowed to stay with you when they're in town.

 

[maureen718]

@WTHN.com is reporting the family was all together on Thanksgiving, both sides of the family and then runs a short interview with Josh Morales (I think). He says the have been together for years and lived together until Christine moved to Ansonia. He said since then Jose stayed the weekends with her and weekdays in NH. Every weekend but Thanksgiving weekend I guess. The reporter Sabina stresses Jose Morales is not a suspect for the murder or the kidnapping.

 

[oviedo]

@WTHN.com is reporting the family was all together on Thanksgiving, both sides of the family and then runs a short interview with Josh Morales (I think). He says the have been together for years and lived together until Christine moved to Ansonia. He said since then Jose stayed the weekends with her and weekdays in NH. Every weekend but Thanksgiving weekend I guess. The reporter Sabina stresses Jose Morales is not a suspect for the murder or the kidnapping.

Well I think most know what the story may be - and that they are searching the woods is not good IMO
Please let this be the one - a Miracle ?

 

[Mistree]

This.

Criminal court records are public in CT though for anyone curious. As I said earlier though, JM's name isn't exactly uncommon, so you can't assume everything you see is necessarily VM's dad.

Thanks, ugh,,,, I don’t like the way this is looking now that I went researching.

Yeah, I'd say it's a pretty clear signal when you used to live with someone, have their child, and now they aren't allowed to stay with you when they're in town.

wonder what “come to town means”?
Did he live in another state?
Not a lot of distance between Ansonia, West Haven and New Haven.

 

[Alkali13]

@WTHN.com is reporting the family was all together on Thanksgiving, both sides of the family and then runs a short interview with Josh Morales (I think). He says the have been together for years and lived together until Christine moved to Ansonia. He said since then Jose stayed the weekends with her and weekdays in NH. Every weekend but Thanksgiving weekend I guess. The reporter Sabina stresses Jose Morales is not a suspect for the murder or the kidnapping.

I need to hear the story again. I heard JM stayed with his family when he was in Ansonia on the weekends, not CH...

 

[Alkali13]

Thanks, ugh,,,, I don’t like the way this is looking now that I went researching.


wonder what “come to town means”?
Did he live in another state?
Not a lot of distance between Ansonia, West Haven and New Haven.

It's a long enough distance to not want to drive back and forth if you're going to be back the next morning anyway (I speak from experience), especially if you have somewhere to crash.

 

[maureen718]

I need to hear the story again. I heard JM stayed with his family when he was in Ansonia on the weekends, not CH...

I thought he said with Christine, I will listen again as soon as the video is ready. I might have misunderstood.

 

[Alkali13]

I thought he said with Christine, I will listen again as soon as the video is ready. I might have misunderstood.

Same! I keep refreshing the WTNH site and it's not up yet.

 

[carbuff]

When you map those addresses in the order they appear in the text, they wind up looking more like route for somebody running, or possibly a bus route, than a route anybody was taking from somewhere to somewhere. It loops back on itself in a couple of places.

Maybe it's the route to connect all the donation bins? Did I read that somewhere, or is my tired sad old brain making it up?

 

[oviedo]

I need to listen and watch her aunt speaking from yesterday / I’m wondering if she will remind me of Cheryl Berreth and her careful composure when Frazee still had the baby?

 

[oviedo]

Same! I keep refreshing the WTNH site and it's not up yet.

We appreciate your efforts I tried to find it and listen in the car but was not successful- you gotta love technology though !
Where is the baby?

 

[24Roses]

Following along quietly here, but so want to believe and pray that this beautiful little girl is safe somewhere. I have to say that if this is a domestic violence family situation, it is not typical of what I have followed lately where the mother and child(ren) are killed all together by the father/husband and then he commits suicide, so I still have HOPE that little Vanessa is still alive.

 

[Alkali13]

When you map those addresses in the order they appear in the text, they wind up looking more like route for somebody running, or possibly a bus route, than a route anybody was taking from somewhere to somewhere. It loops back on itself in a couple of places.

Maybe it's the route to connect all the donation bins? Did I read that somewhere, or is my tired sad old brain making it up?

I'm thinking it's because cameras don't have to be on the direct path someone takes to catch something LE can use. The newest streets aren't near the donation bins, but the end of the new route (Main Street) leads towards the bins in Derby they were searching yesterday and where the dogs were today.

 

[SassynOz]

Was there a briefing today? Not sure of time difference. I’m in central standard time here

 

[imstilla.grandma]

"We are concerned very much of how this happened and who could’ve done something very, very crazy to a one-year-old," said Josh Morales, the cousin of the missing one year old.

"It’s really sad," said a weeping Cassandra Brousseau of Derby. "It’s terrible."

She paid to have 100 flyers printed to spread the word.

"it’s heartbreaking, whether you know them or not," she said. "It’s not right and she needs to be brought home."

"I actually called in the number when I saw through the camera that police came over and hopefully when they go through it they’ll find what they’re looking for," said Mwengo Kambeu, of Derby Ave.

Among those, who picked up a flyer Friday was a couple with a baby of their own.

"I have my daughter and they don’t have their baby and I was just really sad and I was just like it’s just really sad," said Aneek Dixon of Derby. "It makes me appreciate my children."
Amber Alert: State police searched multiple locations in Derby Friday

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Meanwhile Josh Morales of Naugatuck, whose uncle is Jose Morales, the father of missing Vanessa, organized some friends to hand out flyers filled with photos of the toddler and asking anyone who has any information on her whereabout to contact Ansonia police or the FBI.

"We've handed out over 300 already," said Morales. "We're going to try to arrange similar groups in Hamden, Stratford, Bridgeport, at the flea market in New Haven on Saturday..."

Friday's group included Josh's friends and relatives Ed Smith, who is a cousin of Josh Morales’s wife, and Toni Cochran of New Haven, one of Josh Morales’s cousins.

Also on volunteer duty were Third Ward Alderman Joseph Cassetti, a 70-year-old grandfather of three in whose district Holloway's homicide occurred, and Roberta Tripp, a mother of six and wife of Phil Tripp, the former second ward alderman and Democratic mayoral candidate.

"Who wouldn't want to volunteer?" asked Tripp. "Everything should be on standstill until this little girl is found."
Missing child’s family hand out flyers, police report no new information

 

[Beth11311]

This is a weird one. In a standard domestic murder, you’d expect the child to be unharmed, as the grievance is between the parents, and has nothing to do with the child.

She’s also too young to pose any sort of danger to him (telling people what happened).

My fear, is that he didn’t know what to do (assuming daddy is responsible). He couldn’t leave the baby unattended for (potentially days), and giving the baby to someone else would be incriminating.

If that’s what happened, I would have expected this person to have come forward by now, or law enforcement to have figured it out on their own.

So I’m feeling less than confident that she is alive and well.

Agreed. I continue to believe baby V was an afterthought and that there was no true plan, and so there was panic and another rash decision made.

I think having a little one the same age as baby V has made this case tougher for me than usual. Normally I’m pretty good at seeing the facts for what they are and being honest with myself about the likelihood of the child being alive. Hope is fading.

We all wish she was with someone safe and sound, warm and loved. I think that at this point, that’s looking less and less likely. Statistics don’t lie....

 

[FreshEyes]

Police, FBI investigating possible break in missing 1-year-old case as family continues search