Cyndy Short: "I will continue to search for Baby Lisa" PC tomorrow

[Karmaa]

But if the child is still alive, I think that would be an exception to lawyer client privilege, wouldn't it? Since the crime would be in progress? Doesn't that fall under the exception?

Sorry I took so long to reply - dinner break, LOL.

No, there are really only two circumstances which permit breaking privilege. The first is if the atty. becomes aware of an impending act that is intended to cause bodily harm to another person. So, if the client says they are going to beat up the witness or kill them, the lawyer (usually) must break confidence. The second case is if the client caused the lawyer to unwittingly become involved in a crime. Like, if the lawyer took a package for the client, and there were drugs in the package.

The only other times have to do with finances. If the client doesn't pay and the lawyer has to take him to court limited parts of the privilege may be waived, and if the client brings a malpractice suit against the lawyer, limited parts could be waived.

Privilege is taken really seriously by the Bar. While on the surface it looks like it protects the client, in fact it is a huge CYA for the lawyers, and the Bar doesn't want to ever take a chance on losing that, so they don't give an inch. You can be the sleaziest ambulance chaser and the Bar won't take action, but break privilege and boom - you are toast! LOL

 

[Karmaa]

The reason I am thinking of as to why CS is announcing she's going to be searching for Lisa is that mostly she is a woman scorned.

She's mad at JT for getting kicked to the curb and wants to "one up" him by showing she does care for Lisa, while he cares more about the spotlight. Maybe win back/over the parents that way. I got the feeling CS was/is very aware of the negativity surrounding DB and JI and tried/s to correct/influence that and JT just doesn't care about that as much.

Maybe she believes DB and/or JI are involved somehow too but I'm not entirely certain on a theory as to how that relates to searching for Lisa. Does CS want justice served? Are her motives pure? Or is she mad at the parents for lying to her (assuming for a moment they are involved and she now believes or knows that too) and wants to "one up" them too. Seems unlikely.

But, although wobbly in the speculation department it does surprise me a bit this announcement comes now that the parents are laying low and have been whisked away to a mystery location. I dare not assume they are running away but it did kind of feel that way to me. CS= out, BS = back, parents whisked away, CS announces her "plan."

Guess we'll find out tomorrow. Hope motives are pure and it'll have the right result; find Lisa - get justice. ETA: Have to admit I doubt it.


All my opinion :twocents:

I think you may be misreading CS. I can't see her being the least bit worried about being dropped from the case. She is a star in her own right. Maybe not as "celebrity" as Joe T. but she is damned good and has been recognized very heavily for her work.

I think you may have hit the nail on the head though, about Cyndy recognizing the media-frenzied public opinion about the parents, and very likely feels that they need to let the public know what is really happening, rather than just letting the lynch mobs get angrier and angrier. Joe T. is insulated from that since he is not in the area most of the time. Cyndy is, and she can surely see what's happening.

 

[cj1132]

JMO - maybe CS was tired of the BS from BS and JT. Was the house tour her idea or someone else's? I would like to know how she was chosen to be involved in this case. IMO, she's come to the conclusion that there are some people involved who don't really care about baby Lisa and she does not want to be involved with them -- people who are in it for the publicity.

 

[mysteriew]

I have been thinking about this today. I would have loved to have seen the parents face when they heard about this. She has sat with them, planned with them, constructed strategy. They know what they told her. They don't know what she may have overheard or deduced while she was with them.

If she holds this conference (she has a history of announcing and then cancelling) I do hope that she announces in the PC that she will be turning any info she receives over to the LE.

OTOH could this be a ploy to get back on the case? It would certainly put pressure on JT, not knowing what she is going to say or do to "find Lisa." Maybe she could even get back on the case with some money this time.

 

[SilkySifaka]

I have been thinking about this today. I would have loved to have seen the parents face when they heard about this. She has sat with them, planned with them, constructed strategy. They know what they told her. They don't know what she may have overheard or deduced while she was with them.

If she holds this conference (she has a history of announcing and then cancelling) I do hope that she announces in the PC that she will be turning any info she receives over to the LE.

OTOH could this be a ploy to get back on the case? It would certainly put pressure on JT, not knowing what she is going to say or do to "find Lisa." Maybe she could even get back on the case with some money this time.

BBM. That is why I find this disturbing. There is at least the perception of bad faith/impropriety

Innocent or guilty no one deserves to feel their attorney may be using private confidences after they part ways.

jmo

eta..there is always the outside chance of the family and JT agreeing with this..but doubt it after BS's comment to the reporter last night questioning CS's motives.

 

[21merc7]

Maybe she wants to set the record straight about not being an attorney for the family anymore, since media has really made a spin of it, and she has not really explained? Maybe she does not think media is spending enough time focusing on "Finding Lisa" and feels any publicity about that is better than what we have been seeing? I have no idea why a presser, just an announcement would be fine. I feel someone needs to be pushing finding Lisa in the media, but that is not happening. Maybe this lady really saw this and feels she can get that ball rolling. IDK, guess we will see in a few hours.

 

[Cazzie]

Reminder: CS' presser is at 10:30am KC time, today.

This link will have a live stream:

http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_Blog_Amber_Alert_Issued_For_Missing_10-Month-Old

 

[21merc7]

Reminder: CS' presser is at 10:30am KC time, today.

This link will have a live stream:

http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_Blog_Amber_Alert_Issued_For_Missing_10-Month-Old

Thank you. Since I can't view kmbc, my computer refuses, I want to thank everyone in advance for telling us what is happening.

 

[~n/t~]

I'd rather see LE give a live PC than an ex attorney. Where are the results? Are they still searching? Have they ruled out anyone in the case? Is Jersey connected or not? Are there any suspects? Any new leads? etc etc

 

[Cazzie]

Thank you. Since I can't view kmbc, my computer refuses, I want to thank everyone in advance for telling us what is happening.

Usually at that link, in addition to the live stream, a station employee tweets the highlights of the presser.

And someone will possibly post an additional live link from another website...

 

[LaLaw2000]

woodsiecam Woodsie
just had 10min convo w Bill Stanton outside Lister home about #LisaIrwin case, says he genuinely believes mom & dad are innocent #babyLisa

woodsiecam Woodsie
most of Stanton convo was off-record, but he had ?'s about motive of ex #LisaIrwin family atty Cyndy Short & her Mon. press conf #babyLisa

http://twitter.com/#!/woodsiecam

Wonder just what Stanton was doing outside the Lister Street home? Was he looking up a reporter hoping to get an on-camera interview?

I think he was there looking for attention to do his little 'spin'. UGH! Most of his conversation was off-record? Alrighty, then! He's just hoping someone will leak it. Makes me sick!

*BS wanted whatever he has to say out there before the CS PC today, IMO.

JMO

 

[Sigh Sister]

JT was just interviewed on GMA and talked about several things that have gone wrong with the investigation including "the crime scene was trampled on". Not sure, but I'm thinking he may be referencing CS taking media on tour of the home. I definitely think she was forced off the case. IMO

 

[Cazzie]

JT was just interviewed on GMA and talked about several things that have gone wrong with the investigation including "the crime scene was trampled on". Not sure, but I'm thinking he may be referencing CS taking media on tour of the home. I definitely think she was forced off the case. IMO

And before Cyndy Short did her home tour, media toured the home (a la the Lisa crib photo that has it's own thread here).

Both sure sound planned by the DT (or DB/JI), for sure. JMO.

 

[Donjeta]

JT was just interviewed on GMA and talked about several things that have gone wrong with the investigation including "the crime scene was trampled on". Not sure, but I'm thinking he may be referencing CS taking media on tour of the home. I definitely think she was forced off the case. IMO

I didn't see the interview but I'm thinking it probably means something that happened earlier. When CS toured the home it had been searched and released to the family and free for trampling.

 

[~n/t~]

And before Cyndy Short did her home tour, media toured the home (a la the Lisa crib photo that has it's own thread here).

Both sure sound planned by the DT (or DB/JI), for sure. JMO.

The cops should've sealed off the house with crime scene tape, not allowed the family back into the house. It took them 3 weeks to get a search warrant. How is this in any way DB or JI's fault? I don't get it.

 

[~n/t~]

JT was just interviewed on GMA and talked about several things that have gone wrong with the investigation including "the crime scene was trampled on". Not sure, but I'm thinking he may be referencing CS taking media on tour of the home. I definitely think she was forced off the case. IMO

I didn't watch GMA but I totally agree with JT. Contaminated inside and out, imo.

 

[Cazzie]

The cops should've sealed off the house with crime scene tape, not allowed the family back into the house. It took them 3 weeks to get a search warrant. How is this in any way DB or JI's fault? I don't get it.

Better wording: IMO, it seems like DB and JI were able to take advantage of having the house released to them, and then allowed media to trample it. IMO, one or both of them possibly thought that doing such was to their own advantage.

 

[~n/t~]

Better wording: IMO, it seems like DB and JI were able to take advantage of having the house released to them, and then allowed media to trample it. IMO, one or both of them possibly thought that doing such was to their own advantage.

They're getting blamed for LE botched job in securing the crime scene? Seriously? Good grief.

 

[NancyA]

Better wording: IMO, it seems like DB and JI were able to take advantage of having the house released to them, and then allowed media to trample it. IMO, one or both of them possibly thought that doing such was to their own advantage.

In that case how does it absolve LE? How are LE NOT at fault for releasing the property for them to take advantage of the opportunity to contaminate the scene? If LE weren't finished with the house then basic common sense dictates they were duty bound to hold it off limits to EVERYONE until such time as they were. To come complaining now that the crime scene is contaminated smacks to me of a cover up of gross incompetence on the part of LE and I don't get the impression that this LE is incompetent just maybe a bit single-minded.

 

[LaLaw2000]

JT was just interviewed on GMA and talked about several things that have gone wrong with the investigation including "the crime scene was trampled on". Not sure, but I'm thinking he may be referencing CS taking media on tour of the home. I definitely think she was forced off the case. IMO

JT can go on TV and say anything he wants to. It makes me so angry for him to say that several things had gone wrong with the investigation! Does he think he could do better than LE and the FBI? He can blame himself and the parents for the scene being 'trampled on' because they had an exclusive with a major network for money. There have been several walk throughs of the scene apparently with the total blessing of his own clients.

What irks JT is that he has no idea what (if any) evidence LE & the FBI have other than both of his clients going on TV changing their stories (lying) umpteen times. JT has no idea what LE & the FBI have uncovered on the computer usage by the parents. He has no idea whether or not LE & the FBI have conclusively ruled out the 'eyewitnesses' of a man carrying a diaper clad baby. He has no idea about what the investigation has uncovered about the pink haired person call. He does not know if the burned clothes are Baby Lisa's or another family members, or even someone unknown. I could go on and on, but it is clear JT is on the attack where LE & the FBI are concerned because he does not know where the investigation stands. When you have nowhere else to go, attack the investigation! Attack LE & the FBI! UGH!

They all just make me sick, and I am talking about JT, BS, CS, and the parents. Baby Lisa is the victim here.

Where is Baby Lisa???