Cynthia Short-Local Attorney no longer representing Irwin and Bradley

[SmoothOperator]

Not sure what to think.. I'm hoping to God that this CS was fired due to her NOT wanting to allow the boys to be reinterviewed.. I hope to God this means that the parents want to allow them to be reinterviewed and I hope to God that grow a backbone and say EFF off to any Attys saying NO to the boys being reinterviewed and march those boys down there and let's find Lisa!!
ATLEAST this is what I'm hoping for..

 

[MyBelle]

Not sure what to think.. I'm hoping to God that this CS was fired due to her NOT wanting to allow the boys to be reinterviewed.. I hope to God this means that the parents want to allow them to be reinterviewed and I hope to God that grow a backbone and say EFF off to any Attys saying NO to the boys being reinterviewed and march those boys down there and let's find Lisa!!
ATLEAST this is what I'm hoping for..

If the parents wanted to allow the interview, Joe Tacopina wouldn't have cancelled it because it's the parents' decision. The attorneys can't be blamed for the parents' decisions just as the cops can't be blamed. This case is like watching a train wreck.

JMO

 

[~n/t~]

I'd like to know who "fired" her. MSM is reporting she was fired. Umm....fired by whom? Who was paying her?

I think it's interesting that they located a woman who allegedly received a phone call on her cell phone but nobody knows who this secret "benefactor" is. Amazing.

:innocent:

 

[butwhatif?]

You know what? I don't give a carp about who's firing who, who's running the show, or the why's about any of this atty carp. I'm tired of it being about them.

All I care about is Where is Lisa?????

 

[Abby Normal]

Do you, by any chance, have a link. Shep Smith had two attorney's on his program this afternoon. The one with glasses, sorry can't remember his name, said JT didn't want the kids to meet with LE, and he wouldn't either if he was the attorney.

http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/ne...ing-parents-off-lisa-irwin-case#ixzz1c7cxuCAM

 

[Scamperoo]

I'd like to know who "fired" her. MSM is reporting she was fired. Umm....fired by whom? Who was paying her?

I think it's interesting that they located a woman who allegedly received a phone call on her cell phone but nobody knows who this secret "benefactor" is. Amazing.

:innocent:

Here is a link where CS said only the parents can fire her and she doesn't want the boys interviewed.

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/27/3233889/interviews-of-baby-lisas-young.html

 

[menmo]

Phones couldn't dial out per DB/JI because of a restriction because bills weren't paid. The fact a 50 sec. connection/call was made, proves that's a lie. Unless the unknown perp paid their phone bill.

All my opinion :twocents:

I'm new but have been reading from the beginning. This did it for me. I am no longer a fence sitter. As for the phone call, she said her and her EX boyfriend had walked around the neighborhood. Who is her ex? Did the reporter ask her that? If not then he needs to go back and let us know. So glad someone figured out who she was and let us know!

WHERE IS LISA?

 

[AnaTeresa]

Thank you! I wonder why DB didn't know anything about it then? It seems that if CS is representing DB, then DB is the one with the power to discharge her (if I understand your post correctly). But DB told reporters she didn't know anything about it. How can that be?

I found that odd as well. My first thought was, at the time DB was asked, she didn't know anything - and then DB and JI were convinced by JT to discharge Short. Or, DB was straight up lying. With this case, who knows? Nothing would surprise me at this point.

 

[AnaTeresa]

But what about LE? What if an attorney thinks their client might "do it again", and/or there are minor children in the client's care?

Attorney-client privilege is absolute. There have been attorneys who refuse to divulge information, such as the location of victim's bodies, even after the death of their client. From what I understand, even if an attorney thinks their client may harm again, they cannot break the confidence. Now, I'm sure they could find a creative way to work around things if the situation was imminent and urgent, but basically, no, you cannot say anything, ever.

 

[DeepThinker]

I was just thinking to myself this morning "I wonder when this attorney will no longer be representing these people"....then I come on tonight and see this...:waitasec:

 

[Cazzie]

Attorney-client privilege is absolute. There have been attorneys who refuse to divulge information, such as the location of victim's bodies, even after the death of their client. From what I understand, even if an attorney thinks their client may harm again, they cannot break the confidence. Now, I'm sure they could find a creative way to work around things if the situation was imminent and urgent, but basically, no, you cannot say anything, ever.

With respect, this is not my understanding at all. A long-experienced attorney told me this, but maybe they were willing to go outside the law in such a situation. Thus why I asked.

Again, with respect, are you maybe thinking about clergy (ministers, priests, etc.)?

Another reason I question this is regarding the apparently common knowledge that defense attorneys never ask their client if they're guilty. Could that be becuz they would be compelled by law to report them to LE?

 

[AnonymousD]

I'd like to know who "fired" her. MSM is reporting she was fired. Umm....fired by whom? Who was paying her?

I think it's interesting that they located a woman who allegedly received a phone call on her cell phone but nobody knows who this secret "benefactor" is. Amazing.

:innocent:

BBM

She was working pro bono.

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/20/3220223/baby-lisas-lawyers-say-police.html

They stand ready to do more for police, said Short, who is working on the case pro bono.

 

[curiositycat]

I'm new but have been reading from the beginning. This did it for me. I am no longer a fence sitter. As for the phone call, she said her and her EX boyfriend had walked around the neighborhood. Who is her ex? Did the reporter ask her that? If not then he needs to go back and let us know. So glad someone figured out who she was and let us know!

WHERE IS LISA?

Welcome to WS's friend!!
:welcome3::welcome5::wagon:

 

[Rallihanna]

Oh the tangled webs we weave...

 

[SmoothOperator]

No Attys are not compelled to tell the truth if their clients tell them something.. They can even know where the body is and still not be compelled to tell this information.. Yea most defense Attys don't ask cuz they don't wana know but however whatever their client divulges to them they do not have to tell anyone anything especially where the body is. I learned this following Kyron Horman's case..

 

[Karmaa]

With respect, this is not my understanding at all. A long-experienced attorney told me this, but maybe they were willing to go outside the law in such a situation. Thus why I asked.

Again, with respect, are you maybe thinking about clergy (ministers, priests, etc.)?

Another reason I question this is regarding the apparently common knowledge that defense attorneys never ask their client if they're guilty. Could that be becuz they would be compelled by law to report them to LE?

The ONLY times that an attorney is permitted to break privilege is if they are aware of impending illegal activities that are expected to cause physical harm to another, or if the attorney has unknowingly participated in illegal activity. That's it.

If the client breaks privilege, by disclosing the information to a third party (even a stranger) then privilege is broken and the attorney can not only discuss it, but can be forced to testify about it. The classic example of this is if the lawyer and client were discussing the case in an elevator and someone else was in the elevator, the court sees that as the CLIENT breaking privilege.

And, the reason that attorneys don't ask their clients about guilt or innocence is because they don't want to unwittingly form a bias. But no one would become a defense attorney if they had any compunction about defending the devil himself. They beat that in your head in law school - it's not about how YOU feel about the client - it's about their right to have a vigorous defense. Period. If the student can't accept that they better go to corporate law.

 

[Cazzie]

The ONLY times that an attorney is permitted to break privilege is if they are aware of impending illegal activities that are expected to cause physical harm to another, or if the attorney has unknowingly participated in illegal activity. That's it.

If the client breaks privilege, by disclosing the information to a third party (even a stranger) then privilege is broken and the attorney can not only discuss it, but can be forced to testify about it. The classic example of this is if the lawyer and client were discussing the case in an elevator and someone else was in the elevator, the court sees that as the CLIENT breaking privilege.

And, the reason that attorneys don't ask their clients about guilt or innocence is because they don't want to unwittingly form a bias. But no one would become a defense attorney if they had any compunction about defending the devil himself. They beat that in your head in law school - it's not about how YOU feel about the client - it's about their right to have a vigorous defense. Period. If the student can't accept that they better go to corporate law.

BBM. That is exactly what I was asking about in my first post about this issue. TY...

 

[cluciano63]

I said that Cyndy looked awfully uncomfortable defending DB on TV.

Thank God--a lawyer with a conscience!

Do we know this for a fact?

 

[Karmaa]

BBM. That is exactly what I was asking about in my first post about this issue. TY...

Just so you understand what I am saying... this means that if (for example) the client told the attorney that she was going to commit a murder tomorrow, the attorney could (must) break privilege. Nothing that has been done in the past would qualify for that.

And a non-violent future illegal activity would not count either. If (for example) the client told the attorney that she was going to give money to her accomplice, the lawyer can NOT break privilege.

 

[epiphany]

http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/k...8973/KCUR.News/Legal.Tempest.in..Child.Search

The Kansas City lawyer representing the parents has quit, contesting accounts that she, Cyndi Short, was fired by a New York Lawyer who signed on earlier.