Czech Republic - Jane Doe, deceased, possibly falsely IDd as Alice Billing, 4 March 2012

[MyCousinAlice]

Do these two photographs look like they could be the same person? The police concluded that my cousin Alice died in 2012. I have since learned through police records that the body is not Alice. In 2019 I found a photograph on social media which in my opinion has a striking resemblance to Alice. Your feedback means a lot to me. Can anybody refer me to a facial recognition analyst?

Thank you

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[SandyQLS]

JMO not the same person. The ears have a different position or are set at different angles. Ears are a very distinguishing feature.

 

[Marg from Oz]

Ears and jaw bone are different in my opinion.

 

[Orgona]

At first sight without looking carefully I see why you would think it could be the same person.
But by looking closer I too find the position of the ears completely different. On the first picture the ear is standing, on the second the ear is tilted. The form of it seems different too.
Find the tip of the nose “heavier” on the picture from 2019.

Sorry, can’t help with a facial recognition analyst.

MOO

 

[Catmommy]

No, MyCousinAlice, they do not appear to be the same person. I am sorry for your circumstances. I hope that you are granted answers soon.

 

[Sillybilly]

We have invited MyCousinAlice to apply for verification. Hopefully they will, and we will notify members on this thread as soon as they are approved.

Note: WS does not normally allow posting images of random individuals but, based on some background info that MyCousinAlice will eventually share, we are making a thread specific exception in this case .

 

[Sillybilly]

I am tagging @rae100 and perhaps they could weigh in for us. They are WS Verified as an expert in facial shape analysis.

 

[Sillybilly]

Hey everyone, please welcome MyCousinAlice to this discussion.

MyCousinAlice has now been verified as a family member and will share a lot of information to help us understand the background in this case.

I'm sure you will have many questions for our VI, so as always, please be respectful, polite and do not argue with our Verified insider.

As there may be discussion related to many different people, please remember to use initials, or first name and initial only, so as to protect the privacy of innocent individuals.

Thank you to MyCousinAlice and everyone for being here to discuss this interesting case.

 

[PayrollNerd]

Has DNA been done to match Alice with any unidentified persons? Are there any personal belongings like a toothbrush or hairbrush still available?

What is the process, if any, that is done in the Czech region to identify people?

(I’m of Czech decent so I find this case interesting.)

 

[Sillybilly]

I'm sure MyCousinAlice will be here shortly to answer our questions and provide documentation ... but my very first question is related to how the first person to arrive on scene actually identified the deceased as being Alice.

 

[MyCousinAlice]

RE: First to Find the Body.

EC found the body in Alice’s bed on March 4, 2012. Alice hired EC to care for Alice’s houseplants and other minor housekeeping at Alice’s home in Prague, which Alice visited about 5 weeks out of the year, according to EC.

Because Alice wouldn’t answer her telephone and her Porsche was parked right outside her home when she should have been back at her residence in Germany, EC’s grandmother, who lived right next door, asked EC to look into what was going on. EC had keys to access Alice’s home in Prague, so EC investigated.

I exchanged e-mails with EC during 2018 and 2019.

How convinced was EC that the body in Alice’s bed, was in fact Alice? After I told EC about the autopsy (which is worthy of a book on its own accord) and that the face on the body does not look like Alice, EC had no hesitations writing me back that I should report this to the Czech Police. This tells me that EC was not certain that the body was Alice.

From EC’s perceptions, who else could that have been in Alice’s bed? I guess if the body was a man’s or was 50 pounds heavier than Alice, then EC would have had reason to pause before concluding that it was Alice’s body. But the fact is that the body appears very similar to Alice’s build: EC found the body, looked at the face, noticed she was dead, freaked out, and ran outside and immediately called the police. In the heat of the moment, EC had every right to believe that the body was Alice. EC did not take the time to carefully look at the face of a dead woman to make certain that she was Alice.

Sadly, this was the only time that EC ever saw the body. I asked EC if the police invited her to give a positive identification of the body at the police morgue, and EC wrote back that the police had not.

In 2019 I and a family member called the now retired detective, Komisar Petr Michal of the Czech Police. Komisar Michal said that the body was “positively identified” as Alice by (1) Alice’s husband, (2) their adult son (and only child), and (3) their former au Pair. Komisar Michal also pointed out that all of the family portraits in the home had the decedent’s face on them, as well as on a Passport which was reissued on December 2, 2011. So I can accept that, from the perspective of the Czech Police, they probably felt no need to invite EC to identify the body.

The face on the 2011 Passport does have Alice’s bio data and signature, but the photograph is Jane Doe. The police also seized Alice’s expired 2006 Passport and 2007 Driver’s License: these two documents have Alice’s bio data, signature and photograph.

I have attached a compilation slide (“2006-2011 Compilation”): the one on the left is Alice and is the same as found on Alice’s 2006 Passport and 2007 Driver’s License; the one on the right is Jane Doe from the 2011 Passport. Do they look like the same person, 5 years apart?

As an aside before I forget, did anybody see the 2018 film “A Simple Favor”? Although this film is based upon a novel written by Darcey Bell and is a work of fiction, there are some very hair-raising parallels which I hope to get to later. I recommend that you who have not watched “A Simple Favor” to watch it and take notes on the forensics side of things as apply to the villainess, and her murdered twin.

 

[MyCousinAlice]

RE: DNA

Dear PayrollNerd,

Thank you for your feedback and questions.

Has DNA been done to match Alice with any unidentified persons?

I don’t know.

The police will not investigate because the Czech Prosecutor refuses to reopen the case. The Prosecutor’s reasoning seems absurd and I feel like they are not taking me seriously, but I don’t have money to hire a Czech attorney to address this head on. If you know of a Czech attorney who is willing to volunteer, please send them my way. Maybe raise funds through GoFundMe? I would rather have the WS community put together a team effort with input from members who have specialized training, and present a compelling case to the Czech authorities.

Are there any personal belongings like a toothbrush or hairbrush still available?

I don’t know.

What is the process, if any, that is done in the Czech region to identify people?

I don’t know what the official police procedures are, however according to what Komisar Michal told me, Alice’s husband, adult son and former au Pair (let’s call this former au Pair “IK”) identified the body at the police morgue.

Since long before any of this drama began, I and my immediate family lived and continue to live in the United States; we were kept out of the loop. We were not even told when or where Alice’s funeral would take place.

In Facebook messaging, IK tried to rub into my face the fact that I did not attend Alice’s funeral, and therefore I somehow don't care about Alice. I was not aware during this exchange, but another former au Pair (call this one “LC”) wanted to inform us about Alice’s funeral and during a face-to-face confrontation between LC and IK, LC demanded that IK hand over a booklet so that LC could contact me about what happened and when/where the funeral would take place: IK not only refused to let LC see the booklet: IK would not even read my contact information to LC. IK was clearly running interference and did not want me or my immediate family to know what was going on or even attend Alice’s funeral.

Attendees told me that Alice’s casket remained closed during the entire funeral ceremony. Only Alice’s son (call him “AAB”), was allowed to see Alice in repose, no less while in a private viewing room. I can see why IK and AAB didn’t want me to attend Alice’s funeral: I would have insisted on seeing Alice one last time. Imagine that!

Jane Doe was cremated. Find attached a picture of Alice’s urn which sat on a shelf at the crematorium, unclaimed for over 4 years following the funeral ceremony. I cannot express enough the shock, outrage and heartbreak that I felt when I learned about this in 2016. Alice didn’t deserve this! All I could think of was “is this the way a son treat’s his mother?” Of course this was before I found out about “the rest of the story”.

The crematorium staff said that they see Alice every day. At first I thought that the staff was drunk or joking. So they sent me photographs: they were sober and they were definitely not joking. They considered Alice to be a personal friend and didn’t have the hearts to dump her remains into a nameless mass grave.

I had Alice’s urn put to rest into the family burial plot where many of our ancestors rest. A year later, in 2017, I found out that the ashes in the urn didn’t even belong to Alice. At least Jane Doe can have some rest and peace while we work to get her some Justice. Are you with me?

Just recently I learned from a very reliable source that all tissue samples that were taken during the investigation and autopsy were destroyed shortly after the investigation was completed. Although this is unfortunate, there is so much more evidence that should compel any reasonably minded prosecutor to reopen the case.

Sincerely,

MyCousinAlice

 

[Sillybilly]

A year later, in 2017, I found out that the ashes in the urn didn’t even belong to Alice.

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How was that determined?

 

[Auntie Cipation]

I'm curious whether Alice's husband and/or adult son have any explanation for the differing appearances.

For example do they say she had cosmetic surgery which might address facial differences? Or some illness or condition which could explain it?

Was either the husband or the son around her on a daily basis during those years between the older photo and the newer one?

I haven't seen the movie you refer to but I'm starting to think of fiction stories I've read where one person steps into the life of another person (after killing or hiding the person they are impersonating) but generally that only works if the person in question doesn't have close friends or family who would notice the person they see is now an imposter.

In your initial post you say you learned through police records that the body was not Alice. Can you elaborate? Is it the police who say the body was not Alice (and if so, why do they think that?) or is it your own suspicion based on the differences in the photographs?

I apologize if I'm asking questions you've already addressed. I got a bit confused reading the earlier posts.

 

[MyCousinAlice]

Re EC Witness Statement,

In order to stay within the TOS, I had to figure out how to edit certain identifiers from the police file documents. I finally found a way to remove items like full names, addresses, residential addresses and telephone numbers, government-issued identification numbers, etc. If you are a verified professional in forensics (I need a forensics pathologist and finance), investigators, translators, and any professional who wants to help Jane Doe), please ask through private chat for the unredacted originals. This hampered my ability to answer your questions in a more timely manner, so please have patience.

Find attached the translated witness statement from EC: EC found the body and identified it as Alice. I have posted a previous post about EC.

Here are additional points that I find worth noting from EC’s official statement:

February 28, 2012 was the last day that EC saw Alice alive, when they had lunch together.

“Whether Alice has a health problem I am not aware of any, she seems to be psychologically a very strong person, who can solve her problems.”

A neighbor told EC that on March 3 after 1:00 pm, Alice “quickly drove off in her automobile, and she was speeding away and literally cut the curve.”

As to Alice’s mental health: “it did not appear to me, that she was in severe depression.”

Alice’s Husband’s “job was relocating from Germany to Dubai.”

Please ask me any questions; feel free to point out anything else that you find noteworthy that I may have overlooked. The importance I place on what I point out is based upon the fact that I have already read the other files which I am working to bring to you, and a whole lot more that is not in these police files.

Thank you,

MyCousinAlice

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[MyCousinAlice]

Dear Sillybilly and Auntie Cipation,

Regarding how I determined in 2017 that the ashes in the urn don’t belong to Alice AKA that the body was not Alice:

(1) When I met Alice in 2001, we kicked off our shoes and went back to back to see who had the bragging rights to being the tallest; we were so close that we called it a draw – I am still about 170 cm tall.

(2) In 2017 when I received “Alice’s” autopsy (it is titled “Expert opinion”): It says that Alice was only 163 cm tall – that is almost 3 inches shorter than I am.

(3) I also received the 2011 passport was seized from the death scene, in 2017: it listed Alice’s height at 168cm – close enough to my 170cm so okay I can accept that.

(4) Still, 168 cm is 2 inches taller than the body’s height of only 163 cm.

(5) The face on the 2011 passport is not Alice.

(6) According to the autopsy, the postmortem decay displayed by the body indicates that she was biologically dead for at least 36 hours; MM was the last person to see Alice alive when Alice left MM’s home a little after 10pm on March 3, 2012; EC discovered the body and called the police at 1222 pm the very next day, March 4, 2012: so at most the body could have been dead for only 14 hours and 22 minutes: you can’t compress 36 hours’ worth of postmortem decay, into a body that was chronologically dead for only 14 hours and 22 minutes. The two experts noted the advanced stages of decay yet they never addressed its significance upon the time of death calculus.

(7) Earlier in 2017 before I got the autopsy and 2011 passport, LC told me that during 2015 while she was eating in a restaurant, Alice walked right past the front window. LC was so shocked that she dropped everything and ran out in hopes of catching up to Alice, but Alice quickly jaywalked into a crown and disappeared. I could hear and see the trauma that LC was going through from simply recalling this encounter to me: we were communicating over Skype.

(8) Also earlier in 2017 before I got the autopsy and 2011 passport, I found a social media posting by one of Anthony’s friends, showing a breed of canine that Alice was fond of. I was so excited that I ran to show my brother. As I played the video back for my brother I was still excited and talking about it and the next thing I knew my brother was yelling over my babblings: “That voice in the background, that’s Alice!” He was right, the voice in the background sound just like Alice.

(9) There are all sorts of “hints” such as when IK kept me in the dark about Alice’s death and funeral, how Anthony ignores my messages and how he even avoids his father’s side of the family, how Anthony refused to accept his mother’s urn, how Alice’s urn was left abandoned at the crematorium, etc.

In 2017 these circumstances made me conclude that the body, and hence the ashes, was not Alice. The final “straw that broke the camel’s back” was the autopsy and the 2011 passport: these documents validated my fears that the body was not Alice and, ergo, the ashes were not Alice’s.

This is why I went to WS: to get help because I want Justice for Jane Doe as much as I want Alice to be brought to Justice.

Mr. Gibson’s 2018 Facial Recognition report merely confirmed my conclusion that the body is Jane Doe; the 2019 siting put to rest my concern over whether or not Alice was a victim of foul play.

Please let me know whether I have answered your questions as to how I determined that the body wasn’t Alice.

Thank you,

MyCousinAlice

PS: I am reviewing the referenced documents and will post when they are ready.

 

[MyCousinAlice]

RE: The Autopsy AKA Expert Opinion

Find attached the translated and edited autopsy, which is titled “Expert opinion”; personal identifiers of third parties (non-family persons but excluding public officials) have been edited.

I will keep my comments (“COMMENT:”) to a minimal. I am not a medical or a forensics expert. If you are one, please tell me what you think. I plan to add more in-depth comments on a later post, but I would really like to hear from you first.

1. The autopsy was performed by Dr. Michal Beran, Ph.D. and Dr. Jana Markvartova, MD (AKA “the Experts”).

2. The skin on both sides of her lower abdomen was dirty green colored. Translation page 2. COMMENT: The skin on this area of the body typically takes about 24 hours to turn greenish following death, caused by bacteria activity.

3. Every examined organ had already started undergoing autolysis decay. COMMENT: Signs of organ autolysis decay typically take at least 36 to 48 hours to appear in or on organs, following death. Autolysis is caused when the body’s own enzymes digest the organs.

4. At the left corner of her mouth was a small quantity of dry white bulk material, with smaller ones on her right cheek; residue of what appears to be dried vomit on her face. Translation page 3. COMMENT: the white residue is from sleeping pills.

5. Her appendix was removed. Translation page 5. The possible surgical scar was noted on translation page 3.

6. The medical first responder to reach the body, Medical Doctor Miroslava Smidova, estimated the date of death to February 18, 2012. Translation page 8. COMMENT: Two weeks earlier? At least this is more consistent with the degree of postmortem decay.

7. The Experts cite to a report published by Dr. Smidova. COMMENT: I never got a copy of Dr. Smidova’s report. Can anybody help me get a copy of Dr. Smidova’s report?

8. According the Experts, Dr. Smidova observed that the body exhibited full rigor mortis when she examined it at the scene. COMMENT: Full rigor mortis on a body whose organs have begun to undergo autolysis? What could cause a body to exhibit full rigor mortis, other than plain conventional biological rigor mortis, and already exhibit autolysis in the organs? Please share your thoughts or expertise.

9. According to the Experts, based upon the presence of full rigor mortis, Dr. Smidova concluded that death took place at 100 am on March 4, 2012. COMMENT: This narrows the PMI (Post Mortem Interval AKA the quantity of time between death and the moment when the body is discovered) to 11 hours and 22 minutes, since the body was discovered by 1222pm the very next day by EC. Never mind Dr. Smidova’s earlier estimated date of death of February 18, 2012.

10. There was evidence that the decedent was coping with a serious case of emphysema, pulmonary edema, and cirrhosis. COMMENT: watch “A Simple Favor” – there is an uncanny parallel.

11. The edge of her lower lip had “dried out”. Translation page 3. COMMENT: Freezer burn? What else could cause this? The lower lip was partially black, like when a steak gets freezer burned. Will post CSI photograph later.

12. “[A] small hematoma on the lower phalanx of the fourth toe of her left foot. This injury was caused by the effects of blunt violence of small intensity, which worked at the place of its production. And shortly before the death of Alice Hedkvist Billing: on the actual cause of death, the injury did not participate”. Translation page 9.

13. “More specifically, it is not possible to express the time of death from a legal/forensic medical point of view.” Translation page 10. COMMENT: In other words, the autopsy evidence doesn’t match the storyline given by the witnesses, and these Experts don’t want to be so blunt about it? Anybody with experience care to comment?

14. The blood collected during the autopsy tested to have 0.62 g / kg of alcohol. Translation page 11. COMMENT: Can anybody convert this into the BAC standard used in the United States? Is it the same as our “0.062 BAC”?

15. “The immediate cause of the death … was cardiorespiratory insufficiency (respiratory and circulatory failure) with the concurrent toxic effect of Zolpidem, potentiated with alcohol, and aspiration (breathing in) of the content of the stomach into the lungs.” Translation page 10. COMMENT: In other words, she chocked to death on her own vomit?

16. “As stated above, causes of the death of Alice Hedkvist Billing was causal to the ingestion of alcohol and zolpidem [sleeping pills]”. Translation page 11.

17. Copious amounts of sleeping pills and penicillin were found at the scene.

18. Even “instantaneous highly specialized medical care” would not have saved her from dying. Translation pages 11-12. COMMENT: a fatal overdose?

If you or somebody you know can provide a professional review of this autopsy or any other matter in this case, please do so. Even if you are not an “expert” maybe you see something I don’t, and I want to hear from you. How else can we help Jane Doe?

For all of the Jane Does and John Does who will never have the chance to be identified or located or get Justice for their sufferings, here is a Jane Doe who can carry their hopes, all she needs is your help. Maybe if you don’t know such an expert, look for one, share Jane Doe’s story with them, please be proactive.

MyCousinAlice

 

[MyCousinAlice]

Dear Auntie Cipation,

I cannot give you a comprehensive answer of everything that I am aware of. That would be a Herculean task. What happened here is diabolical. One or two sentences or paragraphs will not get you the complete answer. I will do my best, with more to come.

You have the autopsy, now read it very carefully. Then ask yourself: does the physiological profile of Jane Doe match an actively healthy Alice? Consider:

In January, 2012, one month before she “died” Alice was skiing the Italian Alps. Alice was continuing to live a very healthy and active lifestyle. In the attachment, that is Alice on your left wearing the black skiing helmet.

On the other hand, poor Jane Doe was suffering from emphysema, pulmonary edema, and cirrhosis: Jane Doe was a heavy smoker and a heavy drinker, and living with the consequences. Jane Doe should have been in intensive care at the local hospital, not on Alice’s bed with a ton of penicillin and sleeping pills, and alcohol. Was Alice playing doctor? Jane Doe was in no condition to go skiing the Alps, not even one month before her death.

Watch “A Simple Favor” yet? Hint: Alice was neither as drinker nor a smoker.

Au contraire, Alice was a “health nut”!

You:

“I'm curious whether Alice's husband and/or adult son have any explanation for the differing appearances.

For example do they say she had cosmetic surgery which might address facial differences? Or some illness or condition which could explain it?

Was either the husband or the son around her on a daily basis during those years between the older photo and the newer one?”

I believe that I have answered some of your questions. But:

Neither Alice’s husband, TB, nor Alice’s son, AAB, said or wrote anything to me or to my immediate family, at any time before or after Alice’s “death”.

TB gave a police witness statement; AAB did not.

I only briefly spoke with TB in 2001. I had a much better – actually fun – time with Alice when I visited her, again very briefly, in 2001.

Alice’s mom, Aunt Marie, died in 2007.

Then Alice “died” on March 4, 2012.

And then TB “died” on November 20, 2012. I can’t tell you enough about TB; for another day.

TB never contacted us during the interim between Alice’s “death” and his “death”.

TB’s older brother, MB, wrote to me that he never saw TB at the hospice or any time after TB came down ill from “ravaging cancers” (my paraphrase from a web article about TR’s death; to this day I cannot get a response back from the author).

All that MB got for $20,000 in attorney fees was an urn. He never even saw TB’s body before it was cremated.

Back to Alice:

Recall that the body is 2 inches shorter than Alice, so unless her plastic surgery included shortening her body height by 2 inches, that body belongs to somebody else. At least “logic” would dictate this conclusion. Of course the face isn’t Alice’s face. You can’t change certain features even with plastic surgery. Modern facial recognition software goes skull deep, not skin deep.

I have no information that Alice was in an accident which would have caused her to lose 2 inched of body height. None of the witnesses interviewed – and I am editing personal identifiers from witness statements as fast as I can in order to let you read what they said – mentioned that Alice lost 2 inches of body height from an accident or through plastic surgery or illness. As sick as the body was, if that body really was Alice, then Alice would have been in a hospital bed, not skiing the Alps!

As to Alice’s son, AAB:

According to his uncle MB, AAB moved in with MB his family for a very very short period time after TB died, then moved out and never contacted them again.

AAB never responded to any of my messages that I sent him.

AAB blocked me from accessing his Instagram and Facebook.

I am not aware that Alice ever got any plastic surgery, although she might just get it done now since I posted that 2019 siting.

Alice, TB and AAB were together quite a bit. You must beware who is telling what to the police. You will understand better when I release the edited witness statements and provide you with more background information.

You:

“I haven't seen the movie you refer to but I'm starting to think of fiction stories I've read where one person steps into the life of another person (after killing or hiding the person they are impersonating) but generally that only works if the person in question doesn't have close friends or family who would notice the person they see is now an imposter.”

Alice, her husband, and their son were very isolated from family. They had friends and au Pairs, but not family. Please share with me your thoughts why they isolated themselves from both sides of their respective families: you might be surprised now right you are.

You:

“In your initial post you say you learned through police records that the body was not Alice. Can you elaborate? Is it the police who say the body was not Alice (and if so, why do they think that?) or is it your own suspicion based on the differences in the photographs?”

The photographs were only one factor. Background information, behavior, the autopsy, the physiological profile of the body to that of Alice, and my first-hand knowledge, all play a part in my convictions that the body is not Alice. This was not a casual conclusion. It was heart-wrenching.

This past Friday I answered how I concluded that the body is not Alice. I can be wrong, but that is why I need your feedback. I added more here, because there is simply so much information.

If there are any WS members with forensics or LE experience in these sorts of cases, please share what you think or suggestions you may have. And if you have no such training or expertise, you can still take time to read the information and share what you wish, think, or suggest. I appreciate all feedback.

You:

“I apologize if I'm asking questions you've already addressed. I got a bit confused reading the earlier posts.”

No harm asking. Time allowing, I will refer you to previous posts. Remember, I hardly scratched the surface with the information that I want to share with you and the WS community. Jane Doe still needs Justice; she is somebody’s daughter, sister, mother, friend, cousin. She deserves to be reunited with her family, just like every Jane Doe and John Doe.

Thank you for your questions,

MyCousinAlice

 

[Auntie Cipation]

@MyCousinAlice , thank you for your replies. This is a mysterious situation for sure.

I think the underlying question I was trying to ask with all my questions was whether it was possible that the differences were changes over time. (I myself lost more than an inch of height between my 30s and my 40s.)

If it can be ruled out that Alice experienced all these changes then I am inclined to agree with you that Jane Doe is someone else. Ideally a way would be found to conduct DNA tests between something known to have Alice's DNA on it, and Jane Doe's ashes (do ashes still have DNA?).

I hope someone here at WS is able to help you solve the mystery.

 

[MyCousinAlice]

RE: Body Height

Dear Auntie Cipation,

Thank you for clarifying your concerns.

Body Height:

Recall that this is just one factor that I used to conclude that the body is not Alice.

I have a friend who lost 3 inches of body height over a 20-year time span. My Dad, Alice’s uncle, lost maybe an inch and he is in his late 70s. Good genes? My Mom is in her late 70s and she lost maybe 2 inches. We are all unique.

I am not aware that Alice inherited some sort of degenerative bone disorder or suffered from osteoporosis or whatever else would have an accelerated effect upon the loss of her body height. But we generally get shorter as we age.

So sure, Alice could have lost 2 inches between 2001 when I met her, and March 4, 2012.

Or Alice could have lost 2 inches between December 2, 2011 when she renewed her passport, and March 4, 2012.

Did Alice lie on her Passport application in 2011? Of course she did: she lied when she submitted a photograph of Jane Doe and handed it off as her own.

Does that mean that Alice also lied about her own height?

I don’t believe so and here is why:

Body height can be easily and quickly verified. I would hazard to guess that all offices that process passport applications will have a measuring tape mounted to a wall or door frame.

Alice knew that she was doing something very bad but she knew that she can always say something like “I gained some weight” or “I accidentally took my friend’s photograph” or whatever.

But Alice can’t talk herself out of a corner if she lies about her height and gets called out to stand up against the wall to be measured. That is a risk that I don’t see Alice would have ever taken.

One last point to ponder:

Alice and I were so close to the same height back in 2001 that we considered each other the same height. Today I am about 170cm tall.

Since Alice declared in December, 2011, that she was 168cm tall, and assuming that Alice did not lie, then that would mean that Alice lost 2cm or a little over three-quarters of an inch in body height over that 10 year (2001 to 2011) time span. This shows that Alice was getting shorter as she was getting older. Where is the mystery?

So I have no reason to conclude that Alice lied in December 2011, when she declared that she was 168 cm tall.

Could Alice have lost another two inches between December, 2011, and March 4, 2012? Sure, but that would have been so catastrophic that one of the witnesses would have told the police about it.

Does this satisfy your inquiry as to how I believe that Alice really was 168cm on December 2, 2011, Auntie Cipation? If not, then please elaborate.

And I consider body height as only one factor. I believe in a “holistic approach”. What say you, Experts of WS? Is there such a term? “Profiling”?

DNA:

I already covered this in an earlier post.

Unfortunately the body was cremated and the tissue samples and evidence was long destroyed.

If DNA can be pulled from possibly teeth fragments that might have survived the cremation process, then I would gladly provide my DNA. Why? Because Alice and I share the same Grandmother. This is where WS experts are invited to interject.

Hypothetically, Auntie Cipation, what if a DNA test was done and the results showed that the body “is” Alice?

Do we then turn a blind eye to the fact that the face is not Alice’s face? Do we then turn a blind eye to the fact that the PMI does not match the advanced postmortem decay?

Would we then turn a blind eye to a plethora of other evidence?

That Face: Just another element, but I will next post Mr. Gibson’s facial recognition report.

I hope that this satisfies your inquiry.

MyCousinAlice