"Damning Proof Found"

[Texana]

While some of us here (okay, me) may have rushed to judgment because they left the kids alone and we (I) hate that, the POLICE didn't rush to judgment. That's a very big deal, in my opinion. Why they did not ask the parents to take a lie detector test and clear them from the beginning, as is standard in the United States, will continue to boggle my mind to the end. Its fairly inexpensive and fairly reliable in ruling out suspects.

Do we know for sure they did ask, and the parents refused? It is not something the PJ can reveal legally, and not something the parents would reveal willingly.

I don't think honestly it's a rush of judgment to connect their behavior with leaving the children alone and possibly covering an accidental death. Leaving them alone, in a room bordering a public walkway, with supposedly unlocked doors, and a pool nearby--that is a callous indifference to the possibilities of harm that could happen to very young children. I don't fault them for not realizing there might be a predator/abductor, but the possibility of drowning in the pool, wandering on the roadway, jumping on the bed and then falling to hit their head on something (my pediatrician had a particularly gruesome story about that, which makes me freak every time my child even stands on the bed)--

The only way the children would be safe for certain is if they were sedated and sleeping soundly, and the McCanns deny that.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

Do we know for sure they did ask, and the parents refused? It is not something the PJ can reveal legally, and not something the parents would reveal willingly.

No, I don't know if they asked, but I would think that the P.R. Firm representing them would find a way to "leak" it to the media, don't you?

By the way, I just heard that the P.R. Firm quit.

 

[Show Me]

No, I don't know if they asked, but I would think that the P.R. Firm representing them would find a way to "leak" it to the media, don't you?

By the way, I just heard that the P.R. Firm quit.

The newly hired PR firm quit?

Weird.....for sure. Still not convinced the McCanns killed Madeline but boy...I wish some questions can be answered.

 

[CaliKid]

If I were the McCanns, I'd insist on a polygraph whether it was admissable in Portuguese court or not.

 

[Texana]

No, I don't know if they asked, but I would think that the P.R. Firm representing them would find a way to "leak" it to the media, don't you?

By the way, I just heard that the P.R. Firm quit.

I bet Philomena McCann would have leaked it in a heartbeat. BTW, have you seen a picture of the woman? She looks a lot like Gerry, and I mean that in the most sincere way.

Hmm, the PR Firm quit? What was that about rats leaving a sinking ship?

 

[CaliKid]

Hmm, the PR Firm quit? What was that about rats leaving a sinking ship?

:doh: Would you want to be representing the McCanns?

 

[twinkiesmom]

<<LE and prosecutors having suspicions is proper and not the problem. Using the media to destroy people is the problem, a truly evil problem. >>

The media and public opinion are not required to hold to the standard of innocent until proven guilty.

In some of the cases you mentioned, the cloud of suspicion is clearly well deserved.

 

[Texana]

:doh: Would you want to be representing the McCanns?

What, the fund didn't raise enough $$$ ?

Seriously, it's one thing to sign on to help with an abducted child campaign, it's another to be associated with parents who are officially named suspect in same child's disappearance.

 

[kittykat1]

What, the fund didn't raise enough $$$ ?

It is my understanding that once the parents are/were named suspects, the money remaining in the fund is no longer available for them. I heard this on MSNBC and will look for a link.

 

[kittykat1]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2005320001-2007420467,00.html

There was controversy about whether or not Mr and Mrs McCann would use money from the fund to pay their legal costs after it became clear police suspected them of involvement in her disappearance.

On Friday a family friend said the fund was looking into whether it could by law pay for the couple’s defence.
But today Mr Hughes confirmed that they would not apply for money from the fund.
He said: “Gerry and Kate’s view is that if they take money from the fund it might be that 90 per cent of people who made donations aren’t bothered about it.

I say "BRAVO!" to the McCann's.

 

[Rino]

confirmed that they would not apply for money from the fund.
He said: “Gerry and Kate’s view is that if they take money from the fund it might be that 90 per cent of people who made donations aren’t bothered about it.

I say "BRAVO!" to the McCann's.

I can't pull up the article but that quote doesn't make any sense to me??

 

[kittykat1]

My interpretation of the quote:

90% won't be bothered but 10% (the remainder) would be.
I saw "BRAVO" because the remaining 10% will make a big stink about it and the McCann's don't need any additional flack.

I think they are doing the right thing because the fund was set up to help find Madeleine, not to help pay for legal assistance in defending themselves.

Just my opinion.

 

[christine2448]

While some of us here (okay, me) may have rushed to judgment because they left the kids alone and we (I) hate that, the POLICE didn't rush to judgment. That's a very big deal, in my opinion. Why they did not ask the parents to take a lie detector test and clear them from the beginning, as is standard in the United States, will continue to boggle my mind to the end. Its fairly inexpensive and fairly reliable in ruling out suspects.

I totally disagree about the lie detector tests, JMO. I have read many studies and we could start a whole thread about this. I would never take one. In my opinion, they are NOT reliable in anyway.

 

[christine2448]

If I were the McCanns, I'd insist on a polygraph whether it was admissable in Portuguese court or not.

No way, I would never. JMO.

 

[kelly london]

its interesting that so many talk show hosts are hesitant to jump on the
MCCANN'S DID IT bandwagon. i've watched so many now that just doesn't put a lot of credibility on the police and to some it appears like aruba all over.

these parents are grieving and i don't believe guilty people would have stayed in portugal for so many months - they would have gotten the heck out of there - the sooner the better -

my "gut" just tells me there is something out of sorts here .... obviously none of us know what it the truth, we'll find out.... i just know that i thought someone in jessica lunsford's family and elizabeth smart's family committed those crimes, because who comes inside and snatches a child from their home/hotel/etc

 

[colomom]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topsto...n-hunt-for-blood-at-flat-no-2-89520-19789121/

Maddy police in hunt for blood at flat No 2
THE SEARCH FOR MADELEINE
Ryan Parry And Lucy Thornton In Praia Da Lux 14/09/2007

"Sniffer dogs have detected blood in an apartment close to the flat from where Madeleine McCann went missing, it was claimed yesterday."

 

[colomom]

My interpretation of the quote:

90% won't be bothered but 10% (the remainder) would be.
I saw "BRAVO" because the remaining 10% will make a big stink about it and the McCann's don't need any additional flack.

I think they are doing the right thing because the fund was set up to help find Madeleine, not to help pay for legal assistance in defending themselves.

Just my opinion.

Mystery benefactor steps in to pay the McCanns' legal fees
Last updated at 23:18pm on 13th September 2007

Harry Potter author JK Rowling has helped the couple in the past
A mystery benefactor has come to the rescue of Kate and Gerry McCann and agreed to fund their potentially crippling legal expenses.

The couple, who are believed to earn around £120,000 a year but have not worked since May, were faced with selling their home to finance their defence against allegations that they were involved in the death of their missing daughter

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...ews.html?in_article_id=481702&in_page_id=1811

 

[Texana]

It's always good to remember that the McCanns have a network of wealthy and powerful/influential people behind them when they present themselves to the public.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

I totally disagree about the lie detector tests, JMO. I have read many studies and we could start a whole thread about this. I would never take one. In my opinion, they are NOT reliable in anyway.

They're not 100% reliable, but when my sister disappeared the police used it as a tool to let them know who NOT to concentrate on. If someone passes a test, it usually means that they can at least look in other directions, even if they decide not to rule out anyone simply because they passed. Law enforcement in the United States, as you know, uses it for this reason and I believe that while it may not work in every case, its a useful tool for them to have and use.

 

[christine2448]

They're not 100&#37; reliable, but when my sister disappeared the police used it as a tool to let them know who NOT to concentrate on. If someone passes a test, it usually means that they can at least look in other directions, even if they decide not to rule out anyone simply because they passed. Law enforcement in the United States, as you know, uses it for this reason and I believe that while it may not work in every case, its a useful tool for them to have and use.

We could really get into this, and I hate to go off topic. Do not concentrate on them because they passed a LDT???...no way Jose, it's not reliable, so why use it to rule someone out and/or not concentrate on them. To me, that makes no sense at all. (not directed at you at all Jeana, directing that at LE doing that).

I have some interesting research (if I can find on my CD's, just changed computers recently) that I'd love to share with you via email, again if I can find it.