Darlie's injuries

[beesy]

No the spray is not going the wrong way. I said the knife was upraised in the hand of the knifeholder and then brought down to try to stab her. Cast off could happen while the knife was being upraised and if her were standing close to Darlie then the back of her shirt could very easily get a tiny drop of cast off with the front getting a lot and the intruder also getting a lot of cast off.
Darlie saying she was not attacked standing means nothing. I don't think she ever said she WAS NOT attacked standing up, rather she just never said anything about being attacked standing up. I don't think she remembers it because I think it was a part of when she saw her children stabbed to death and she has buried that memory deep. And if you all don't believe in buried memory then you don't but I do.

I believe Darlie is guilty. So I believe any recovered memory of hers is BS. So I believe that if she could explain any of this she would have "recovered" it by now. She just says well it was contaminated because the clothes were put together, typing is wrong, blah blah. You know that cast-off is not created by transfer.
Snooty, she doesn't say alot of things. She doesn't say she was attacked on the stairs, she doesn't say she was attacked in the kitchen, she doesn't say she was attacked at the front door, she doesn't say "a dingo stole my baby". I believe in buried memory, but I do not believe Darlie's BS. It cannot cancel out everything else.
There was no cast-off on her front. There is only cast-off on her back. The tails on her back would be going the other way.The cast-off on her back is not one teeny spot. Do you have your book with you? Even Chris admits it's more than a teeny spot.
Snooty, you are smarter than this, I know you are

 

[beesy]

When I 1st got here y'all were discussing bell bottoms and hip huggers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What is wrong with the snakes and bears you have something against critters.
I thought you'd like the thought of Bears eating child killers sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cowboys and Indians is the last game I played with the boys. I worked for a chemical co that sold its product wholesale at sams. I did product demonstrations. On Halloween I dressed up as the "Sheriff of Stainville" The two little "Indians" raided my candy bowl. They stuffed their pockets when they thought I wasn't looking. I recognized them as they looked so much like Darlie and especially when she was young. I apprehended my "suspects" and was heading to the "jail" with my hands on their backs. ( where Darlie was standing ) when I commented to them that their grandma Darlie wouldn't want them acting like that either. They both looked up at me and started to empty their pockets. Darlie saw us and didn't recognize me. I told her what they had done and she was MORTIFIED. She gave them that you are grounded for LIFE look her own mother used on her. I reminded her who I was and she laughed about not recognizing me. She talked to the boys but we both agreed that even though they returned the candy they had stolen. Darlie suggested no Halloween candy for the rest of the day even if they went trick or treating at Sarildas house. But I suggested a better punishment would be if they had to work their debt off.
She agreed so the boys helped me clean little kids tennis shoes with this non toxic enviromentally friendly 100% biodegradable cleaner, for about an hour.
I'm dressed to the hilt in chaps, hat, rattlesnake hide with the rattle still on it tied aroung the brim of my hat. Spurs, I had a Pikes Peak Sheriffs badge and 2 Toy 6 shooters with the TV show OVERLAND TRAIL on them. If you saw this show as a kid you are as old as I am, or older, so no more posting about our decrepid states of age.

They loved it, I gave Damon my hat, Devon my vest with the badge on it and a gun after all my hat had a REAL RATTLESNAKE HIDE on it. It was COOL to them.
They charmed the customers and acted like perfect little gentlemen.
Darlie had picked up the supplies she needed and the boys gave me a hug. I told them you didn't know when you took that candy that I would have given you the whole bowl had you asked. They shook their heads no and I told them they did a good job and their 'debt' was paid in full. I gave them 1 candy each and winked at them.

So please don't make fun of the cowpokes and indians it is the last time I saw the boys and the best way in my own mind to remember them. Young boys who were learning about life, family, friends and what it takes to be a good man in this world. They were all boy boys. I feel lucky, no blessed, I got to play with them even if it was for the last time. I am glad I saw them steal-- I know I imparted the right values upon them and they gladly accepted them.

This is the kind of detailed story we've been wanting to hear. When you said you were like family to Darlie, I thought you meant you saw her often when she was an adult? No?

 

[SnootyVixen]

Ok, she didn't get cut. She went over to him to make sure he was dead after she had cut herself. I know that child did not die peacefully. The nick on his butt shows that. Darlie was stronger than Devon and she did attack him in his sleep. But, she could have been worried he'd bruised her. If she and Darin had "found" the boys dead the next am and Darlie ended up with bruises all over her, she would have been a suspect, so what to do...ok, I'll be a victim too.
No, but since you think she is, when you bring up something about her blood near Devon, you are obviously trying to show she innocently went over to him instead of how I'm saying it, which is she was there killing him or checking him.

Beesy, can you explain the bruises on Devon's palms and the bruising on the left side of his neck? It was there and it has to be explained before there is complete understanding of what happened to him that night.

 

[G.I.RattlesnakeJane]

which I clearly stated in post #239

ok lets look at the shirt .
Are her wounds lined up with the shirt, If you are asleep in t shirt it may be higher on one side than the other when laying down, flat, side, it might make a difference. I agree at looking at the crime scene evidence. It tells the story better than a portrayal of Darlie's percieved faults do.
It doesn't make sense that she would stab only her shirt if she is self inflicting wounds at some point. Why bother and it looks worse not better, it smells of a clean up, cover up , if you don't have wounds lining up with these holes why put them there. It doesn't make you look innocent it makes you look guilty.

 

[SnootyVixen]

I believe Darlie is guilty. So I believe any recovered memory of hers is BS. So I believe that if she could explain any of this she would have "recovered" it by now. She just says well it was contaminated because the clothes were put together, typing is wrong, blah blah. You know that cast-off is not created by transfer.
Snooty, she doesn't say alot of things. She doesn't say she was attacked on the stairs, she doesn't say she was attacked in the kitchen, she doesn't say she was attacked at the front door, she doesn't say "a dingo stole my baby". I believe in buried memory, but I do not believe Darlie's BS. It cannot cancel out everything else.
There was no cast-off on her front. There is only cast-off on her back. The tails on her back would be going the other way.The cast-off on her back is not one teeny spot. Do you have your book with you? Even Chris admits it's mroe than a teeny spot.
Snooty you're smarter than this, I know you are.

Not much has come from Darlie since she went to Death Row. There are probably many things that she has remembered or that have happened in the continuing investigation that we don't know. Things that would be of great help to us. I have my book somewhere around here I will look tomorrow for it. And do not be so sure that I am so smart. Sometimes I feel very dumb. But it is sweet of you to say so.

 

[beesy]

No that is not good. No body wants to look at pictures or believe them. If anyoen is truly interested then they will do their own experiment or just think it out. Imagine it. Albert Einstein pointed to his head and said it was his laboratory. That's where he figured out thiings and what would work and not work. You can imagine this and figure it out. But if you do not then have the person who kills the chickens for the table let you be there to get the frest warm blood. You do not have to see the actual killing. I do not do that. But I think that fresh blood is the best for this kind of thing.
It does not have to be a chicken. A pidgeon would do.

Snooty, I live in a small town, but even we have grocery stores and they butcher our meat there. Fancy that! I don't kill any sort of animal, on purpose that is, lol, once I forgot to put water in the ant farm and they all died. Oops. Then I fried the lizard by leaving him in his tank too close to the window. Poor guy, didn't even fall over. Just burned to a crisp sitting on his stick. But, anyway, I would believe pictures. I really would. I do believe them, otherwise I wouldn't know what cast-off looks like.
So would you take warm chocolate syrup? That's the only kind of animal I kill(on purpose)

 

[beesy]

Beesy, can you explain the bruises on Devon's palms and the bruising on the left side of his neck? It was there and it has to be explained before there is complete understanding of what happened to him that night.

He also had bruises on his feet. I reckon he fought with his killer. I do not have the knowledge to explain every second of the attack. Why do those bruises point to Darlie or away from Darlie? He was a small child. She was a grown woman. She woke him up already attacking him. He fought, but didn't stand a chance. How do you think he got the bruises?

 

[G.I.RattlesnakeJane]

This is the kind of detailed story we've been wanting to hear. When you said you were like family to Darlie, I thought you meant you saw her often when she was an adult? No?

She and Darin were high school sweethearts, they wanted what every young kid in Lubbock Texas wants- out of Lubbock Texas. They had a plan and a dream and they made it real. They worked hard and did without. Darlie knew how to pinch a penny when they were newlyweds. I witnessed her shrewd shopping skills she knew how to ask for a further discount cause the can was dented. I saw Darlie on special occasions with other friends, ran into her often when she came down to see Sarilda and Lenny. Watched her get big and beautifully pregnant. I saw her at least a couple of times a year for a long time after they moved to Dallas.She is the daughter of a good friend of mine. When she was young I babysat her a few times and when she was a teen she babysat for me. My sister ( the one much younger than me) went to school with her . Nothing in darlie's past is darker than a dumb blonde joke. She had her moments like all teens do she was normal -. She married her best friend.

 

[SnootyVixen]

Snooty, I live in a small town, but even we have grocery stores and they butcher our meat there. Fancy that! I don't kill any sort of animal, on purpose that is, lol, once I forgot to put water in the ant farm and they all died. Oops. Then I fried the lizard by leaving him in his tank too close to the window. Poor guy, didn't even fall over. Just burned to a crisp sitting on his stick. But, anyway, I would believe pictures. I really would. I do believe them, otherwise I wouldn't know what cast-off looks like.
So would you take warm chocolate syrup? That's the only kind of animal I kill(on purpose)

No, I would not myself kill any animal either. But they do get killed for the table and that happens on the grounds where I live. Other people do the killing and preparing the meat for the table. The surrounding land is fertile and grows much of what we eat, and the grapes of course. I did not enjoy going down to where they killl the chickens at all as they are kind of cute and doing the experiment was kind of a horrible thing but it did show me that there are other ways to get that cast off. My younger sister did not like at all being Darlie although she was eager and thinking it fun until I was shaking blood on her.I ask no one here to believe me and if they won't test it then it will die here. I do not know if warm chocolate would do the same. Perhaps it would. And be a lot less traumatic.

 

[beesy]

ok lets look at the shirt .

Are her wounds lined up with the shirt, If you are asleep in t shirt it may be higher on one side than the other when laying down, flat, side, it might make a difference. I agree at looking at the crime scene evidence. It tells the story better than a portrayal of Darlie's percieved faults do

Why do you even feel the need to say that? I am looking at the evidence. We all look at the evidence. Yes, it does tell a story. It says Darlie killed those boys, no matter what she dressed like, acted like or looked like. No matter the size of her , no matter her mothering skills, the evidence says she did it.

It doesn't make sense that she would stab only her shirt if she is self inflicting wounds at some point. Why bother and it looks worse not better, it smells of a clean up, cover up , if you don't have wounds lining up with these holes why put them there. It doesn't make you look innocent it makes you look guilty

Bingo! Give the little lady her prize, Bill! Look! It's a brand new car!
Pictures of the cuts in her shirt are in MTJD

 

[justice2]

No, I would not myself kill any animal either. But they do get killed for the table and that happens on the grounds where I live. Other people do the killing and preparing the meat for the table. The surrounding land is fertile and grows much of what we eat, and the grapes of course. I did not enjoy going down to where they killl the chickens at all as they are kind of cute and doing the experiment was kind of a horrible thing but it did show me that there are other ways to get that cast off. My younger sister did not like at all being Darlie although she was eager and thinking it fun until I was shaking blood on her.I ask no one here to believe me and if they won't test it then it will die here. I do not know if warm chocolate would do the same. Perhaps it would. And be a lot less traumatic.

Isn't there fake blood that we could use instead, like what you use at Halloween? Or something that has the same properties as blood.

So we don't have to have this discussion at all.

 

[deanws]

I am not Beesy or Goody but I assure you that I have been studying this case far longer than either of them and there are indeed holes in Darlie's shirt.

Really? I think not. You don't even know half of the evidence! How can I say that? Because your posts show you are flawed in your knowledge of many important facts. Most of what you do get right beesy and Goody taught you.:twocents:

 

[deanws]

No that is not good. No body wants to look at pictures or believe them. If anyoen is truly interested then they will do their own experiment or just think it out. Imagine it. Albert Einstein pointed to his head and said it was his laboratory. That's where he figured out thiings and what would work and not work. You can imagine this and figure it out. But if you do not then have the person who kills the chickens for the table let you be there to get the frest warm blood. You do not have to see the actual killing. I do not do that. But I think that fresh blood is the best for this kind of thing.
It does not have to be a chicken. A pidgeon would do.

Who in their right mind would kill an animal to do an experiment such as this?:loser: I will put my faith in the EXPERTS....who have clearly shown that she DID indeed kill her children.

 

[G.I.RattlesnakeJane]

Why do you even feel the need to say that? I am looking at the evidence. We all look at the evidence. Yes, it does tell a story. It says Darlie killed those boys, no matter what she dressed like, acted like or looked like. No matter the size of her , no matter her mothering skills, the evidence says she did it.
Bingo! Give the little lady her prize, Bill! [url="http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/12/12_7_23.gif"]http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/12/12_7_23.gif[/url] Look! It's a brand new car!
Pictures of the cuts in her shirt are in MTJD

You haven't seemed to use anything but evidence, goody too, and dp- other posters have made some comments and I'm hoping if they read my posts they won't seem so threatened by the evidence . If I QUOTE THEM THEY FEEL THREATENED. We all have to be prepared for the evidence to tell a story- even if it is not what you thought you'd find.

Gee , a NEW CAR for me you guys shouldn't have. Does this mean I have to quit driving the 67 Ford p/u . LOL

 

[Jeana (DP)]

You haven't seemed to use anything but evidence, goody too, and dp- other posters have made some comments and I'm hoping if they read my posts they won't seem so threatened by the evidence . If I QUOTE THEM THEY FEEL THREATENED. We all have to be prepared for the evidence to tell a story- even if it is not what you thought you'd find.

Gee , a NEW CAR for me you guys shouldn't have. Does this mean I have to quit driving the 67 Ford p/u . LOL

"Threatened by the evidence"????? LOL Nope, I think the evidence speaks for itself.

 

[G.I.RattlesnakeJane]

Who in their right mind would kill an animal to do an experiment such as this?:loser: I will put my faith in the EXPERTS....who have clearly shown that she DID indeed kill her children.

Cows blood would be what the police used and if there is a meat processing plant near you you might be able to purchase some. Don't go killing chickens, not much blood in them anyway. You should also cover the floor with butcher paper with the waxed side down. This would allow you to simulate blood drops and it would photograph better than any other color surface. Less clean up after your "crime reinactment" Zip lock baggies taped to your arms - do not pierce with knife use a toothpick, You are trying to simulate bleeding and gravity will empty the bags quicker than bleeding does if your hole in the baggie is too big. Hold the knife, let it run down your arm unto the blade and drip a bit. Now lay it down on the paper. Move away throw it on the paper. Move away and drop it on the paper, Which one looks the most like the photo in the book of the knife print.
You have described how to reinact the shirt so I thought while you are simulated bleeding, the knife wouldn't be a bad experiment to try.

P.S. I have done some crime reinactment in another case, close your curtains or blinds , if your neighbors see you they will not understand.

 

[SnootyVixen]

Who in their right mind would kill an animal to do an experiment such as this?:loser: I will put my faith in the EXPERTS....who have clearly shown that she DID indeed kill her children.

I never said to go kill an animal to do this experiment. Does no one ever read completely the posts? I said that if chickens were killed on the premises as they are at my home that you could use the chicken blood. I did not ever say to killl the chicken to do the experiment. That is disgusting.

 

[SnootyVixen]

P.S. I have done some crime reinactment in another case, close your curtains or blinds , if your neighbors see you they will not understand.[/QUOTE]


LOL I just bet they would not.

 

[SnootyVixen]

Really? I think not. You don't even know half of the evidence! How can I say that? Because your posts show you are flawed in your knowledge of many important facts. Most of what you do get right beesy and Goody taught you.:twocents:

Oh is that so? Well I am here to tell you that Goody and Beesy get things wrong. I have been around on various forums for many many years. Long before Goody and Beesy. Long long before. Before Dani, Before Cami, before anyone I know here but Jeana. If you want to learn about this case then you had better start taking what is presented to you as truth here with a grain of salt because it is not the truth. But, I think that all you want is for a bunch of women to get together and have a Darlie bash and then you fit right in. If my posts are flawed it is only because I have forgotten stuff. It's been a long time for me and I am not feeling the need to rush to look up stuff now. I'm actually not enough interested in this type discussion anymore. But I never could stand to see half truths or down right un truths put out there and taken by newcomers as the truth. I should get over that and just move along and ignore this forum. Don't know why I can't seem to do that.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

I never said to go kill an animal to do this experiment. Does no one ever read completely the posts? I said that if chickens were killed on the premises as they are at my home that you could use the chicken blood. I did not ever say to killl the chicken to do the experiment. That is disgusting.

Yes, some of us DO read each post completely.


You kill chickens at your house? YUCK.