DC DC - Relisha Tenau Rudd, 8, SE DC, 26 Feb 2014 - #2

[PLT]

PLT, the street address for the Red Roof Inn (where TK's wife was found murdered) is 6170 Oxon Hill Road, Oxon Hill, MD 20745. hth

http://www.redroof.com/property/Oxo...s-close-to-Capital-Beltway-I-95-I-495/RRI181/

thanks! the reviews for the correct place are not as bad as the other place - one person alluded to prostitution (women standing around in the halls).

 

[2Hope4]

I don't have a problem with employers hiring people with a record. Seriously, at least they are willing to look for work, unlike some people who are quite content having everything provided for them, and infact seem to feel entitled. Maybe the rules should be changed that if you are receiving gov't assistance, then drug screening paid for by the person applying! Something has to change!

 

[sonicfanaticsmommy]

I just wanted to add my two cents to the poster who said that this area isn't a great one to walk around in, even in daylight - they are correct. It's no 8 Mile, but it's a crap area. I go thru there sometimes while driving to Fed Ex Field from northern VA (I refuse to drive on the beltway on game days!) and it's one of those bars on every window, people loitering on steps drinking, constant sirens etc. I wish no child had to live there, honestly. It's so gloomy and grimy and just depressing.

 

[sonicfanaticsmommy]

It's wild how different parts of DC are. The Capitol building is like 5 min from the homeless shelter and it's beautiful around there.

 

[AstroKitty]

I'm embarassed to say this, but I have had to live in these" week by week motel" but it was in a good area ( Livonvia Mi)It was a Day's Inn, but very nice, no crime, maybe drugs????????. Very nice people, went to a Easter BarQ there at a room redisence's invite. None of them were interesterd in sex, they worked all day.Had everything I needed laundry, ice machine, maid service, nice neighbors, internet(free) fridge, microwave, front desk service, great resturant with a bar 50 feet away, alittle over priced until I found a place to find contentment. BUT I called the cops 1 night because a woman was screaming help me and the big fight next door. It was a very quiet, place mostly, except for that. They got booted.


If a little girl and man checked into a Holiday Inn, my red flags would have have been all over the place. I'm paranoid like that.:facepalm:

I just want to say to you, please don't be embarrassed of this! A home is where you make it. If it makes you feel any better at all, I grew up in a hotel (the Chelsea Hotel NYC) - there were something like 100 residents when I grew up there and I kept that same room till 2011 when all residents were exiled. Hell, now I have another in NYC on the west side. A lot of people live like this, and it's more than ok. It's no different than an apartment and to many that's what it is - a studio apt! Do not feel shame for that, no way no how.

Personally most of those places are rip off's because they know that a majority of its residents cannot afford to put a first month + deposit + pass a credit check. But if you have running water (and it's hot), a roof over your head, a door that locks, linens, a bed.. you get the point here It's a home and you do what you have to do. If you have kids and you're worried about them living in a hotel, I'm in my mid 30's now and when my sons were first born - we still lived in the Chelsea hotel. I loved it, they loved it. It's a great and strange mixture of people - it's terrific for people watching. I know where I grew up is vastly different in the sense of hotel living but it's still a hotel. As a kid it's exciting and you always have someone to play with. Chin up.

 

[AstroKitty]

I don't have a problem with employers hiring people with a record. Seriously, at least they are willing to look for work, unlike some people who are quite content having everything provided for them, and infact seem to feel entitled. Maybe the rules should be changed that if you are receiving gov't assistance, then drug screening paid for by the person applying! Something has to change!

Agreed!!!
Almost all jobs require a drug screen, if you can pass that than there shouldn't be a reason not to hire.

I don't know if everyone is aware or not but if you have any priors for drug convictions - you cannot receive ANY govt assistance (medicaid, foodstamps etc). This really hurts those who had an arrest when they were younger and turned their entire life around but due to those charges on their record - have a rough time finding a job that is stable. Those are the people that should have stipulations applied but allowed to at least receive medicaid if they do a monthly drug screen. But that's an entire other topic and boy I do not like talking politics online lol.

 

[FindingTheMissing]

I'm embarassed to say this, but I have had to live in these" week by week motel" but it was in a good area ( Livonvia Mi)It was a Day's Inn, but very nice, no crime, maybe drugs????????. Very nice people, went to a Easter BarQ there at a room redisence's invite. None of them were interesterd in sex, they worked all day.Had everything I needed laundry, ice machine, maid service, nice neighbors, internet(free) fridge, microwave, front desk service, great resturant with a bar 50 feet away, alittle over priced until I found a place to find contentment. BUT I called the cops 1 night because a woman was screaming help me and the big fight next door. It was a very quiet, place mostly, except for that. They got booted.


If a little girl and man checked into a Holiday Inn, my red flags would have have been all over the place. I'm paranoid like that.:facepalm:

Don't be embarassed! My posts regarding the hotels weren't meant to make anyone here feel ashamed or embarrassed whatsoever :hug: Honestly I wish I hadn't brought the topic up because I wasn't clear with what I meant, and I think a few people on this thread have misunderstood what I was trying to get at. My fault! I find myself thinking out loud or listening to msm video links while typing on this thread. A lot. So I probably don't make much sense most of the time :crazy:

 

[AstroKitty]

I think that's very likely. I still can't figure out why he'd kill her.

I really think it's because he killed his wife and could not afford or maintain a child on the run. I still have this smidge of a feeling that he's not a pedophile, and I'm a total negative nancy, so I'm shocked I even think like this! I already stated what I thought the scenario might be, but no less - he didn't have to kill Relisha - he could have simply dropped her off at a store (wal-mart for example) and told her to ask for help. If he cared for her at all.

Maybe she is alive, maybe he bought all of these things and truly considered doing it but after spending 2 hours out there in the reserve, he changed his mind? I rarely ever post in threads with these unrealistic alternative outcomes but this child never had anyone protect, love or guide her. She never had a chance to be anything more than a damn paycheck and I would love to see her be something bigger than that.

 

[Elphaba]

It's wild how different parts of DC are. The Capitol building is like 5 min from the homeless shelter and it's beautiful around there.

The Mall area is gorgeous, and a facade of sorts… a few streets over and it is like walking into a whole different world. One that can break your heart, if you truly care about humanity. For the longest time DC was considered one of the most dangerous cities in the US, but thankfully they have started turning things around. But still, there are parts that are scary.

 

[2Hope4]

Wanna know what's scary? In my area, lots of country, farming, etc., it wouldn't be uncommon to see someone buying the same items Tatum bought. In fact, no one would blink an eye about it. It's almost garden season, time to clean up the yards from winter debris, till the garden, apply the lime to the soil, and get those seeds in the ground. Contractor bags work better than the lawn and garden when you're dealing with lots of tree limbs, rocks from the garden that have been tilled up, trash that has blown in from litterbugs, etc.

Of course in a large city, buying those items would be more suspect I'm sure.

Oh, I've also bought lime to keep around for the occasional chicken or other farm animal that has died, and I don't want anything trying to dig it up. It helps hide the odors. Our area doesn't have a leash law, so wandering dogs is common.

 

[hollye]

I added Fort Dupont and the Days Inn to the map. Does anyone know what day they were at the Days Inn? Was it March 1st, the last time Relisha was seen?

https://www.google.com/maps/ms?msid...&ll=38.924962,-76.966782&spn=0.08774,0.195179

 

[Maya Love]

I really think it's because he killed his wife and could not afford or maintain a child on the run. I still have this smidge of a feeling that he's not a pedophile, and I'm a total negative nancy, so I'm shocked I even think like this! I already stated what I thought the scenario might be, but no less - he didn't have to kill Relisha - he could have simply dropped her off at a store (wal-mart for example) and told her to ask for help. If he cared for her at all.

Maybe she is alive, maybe he bought all of these things and truly considered doing it but after spending 2 hours out there in the reserve, he changed his mind? I rarely ever post in threads with these unrealistic alternative outcomes but this child never had anyone protect, love or guide her. She never had a chance to be anything more than a damn paycheck and I would love to see her be something bigger than that.

Here's the thing, in my mind- If he had her b/c he cared about her, he and his wife enjoyed having a sweet little girl around, I don't see him killing her.

If he had her for nefarious reasons, I see him killing her.

 

[mpnola]

I added Fort Dupont and the Days Inn to the map. Does anyone know what day they were at the Days Inn? Was it March 1st, the last time Relisha was seen?

https://www.google.com/maps/ms?msid...&ll=38.924962,-76.966782&spn=0.08774,0.195179

thats right

 

[ohhieliz]

Clarifying my earlier post - I already knew that DC was putting their homeless up in hotels as they ran out of shelter space. My post was in regards to what reason/reasons would someone who HAS a home decide to go stay at a hotel if NOT on a vacation? JMO but that's not normal.

I was asking so to try and piece things together. Fact is Tatum and his wife HAD a home (apartment actually, but same thing), they were NOT homeless. Same for the other family member I was referring to, not homeless clearly by their photos. Yet they have the occasional pics in the middle of the others of a hotel room.

So that's why I was asking. And thanks to those of you who did give me some ideas to consider. Drugs, that seems to be the biggest reason. But, that makes no sense to me. Why go to a hotel to do drugs or deal drugs? Is there a reason you wouldn't just do that at your own home? So I guess that leaves prostitution as the reason. For me anyway :moo: :twocents:

are you SURE they aren't homeless? in the previous thread, didn't we discuss an eviction notice from early february for KT's home??

 

[kimi_SFC]

I don't have a problem with employers hiring people with a record. Seriously, at least they are willing to look for work, unlike some people who are quite content having everything provided for them, and infact seem to feel entitled. Maybe the rules should be changed that if you are receiving gov't assistance, then drug screening paid for by the person applying! Something has to change!

ITA - however, in positions near children, perhaps a little more discretion isn't a bad thing?

I posted the article because it seems the positions where we should protect children were made easier to access. That doesn't sit well with me, and the parallel to Relisha's case was the point. :moo:

I have no qualms with their employment in positions that do not place children at risk.

If those rules hasn't been changed, would klt have still been hired, and had unfettered access to Relisha and her cohort of young girls?

That's the only point I was trying to make. The bottom line is we need to implement systemic changes that seek to strengthen the protections around those that need it the most - not weaken them. I think most would agree on that.

:twocents:


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[2Hope4]

Yes I would agree. The only problem I can see is that no matter what safe guards are in place, no matter who is hired where, if the ones that are, by nature, suppose to nurture, love, provide for, and protect their offspring don't...then I don't know how any laws, regulations, rules, etc. are going to change that.

I don't know the solution, obviously, but I do know one child in this situation is one too many. Even more surprising to me is how quick Shamika's own peers quickly thought Relisha has been sold. What does that say? I mean seriously! The last thing I would think about anyone I know is that they sold a missing child! And all this time I was thinking trafficking was due to runaways that the perps grab, or abductions. I had no idea that people actually feel it's their right to SELL their child! I can't comprehend! I don't want to comprehend, and I pray I never lose my moral compass.

 

[Maya Love]

I wanna know what the metro video tapes show. Where did he take the metro to? There are cameras allllll over the metro, inside and out.

 

[FindingTheMissing]

are you SURE they aren't homeless? in the previous thread, didn't we discuss an eviction notice from early february for KT's home??

I did see one person mention something about an eviction early on. However, I did not see proof of an eviction, and especially not proof of an eviction at 2508 N Street SE Apt #3 in DC, which is where the Tatum's lived. That is not an assumption, that's a fact.

In early February the Tatums lived at this address which can be verified by divorce papers filed on February 7, 2014 which listed 2508 N Street SE Apt #3 as an address for both parties. I don't have the video link any longer but I do have that image from the video which was posted via Channel 4 News and will attach it to this post. (FWIW, I thought it was Andrea that filed... it was not. I just realized while digging this image out that Tatum actually filed for divorce from her. Interesting.)

Also, the search warrant for Khalil's apartment was for 2508 N Street SE Apt #3. The vigil for Mrs. Tatum was at this address as well. Here is a video where a reporter speaks with the landlord of that address on N Street (1:09 mark) and it shows the building behind them. http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/loc...lisha-tenau-rudd-abducted-photographs/6837621 and if you scroll down there is another video where the landlord states Tatum was one of the greatest tenants. He doesn't say anything about an eviction or that he was one of the greatest tenants up until he had to evict him.

So yes, I for one am SURE he and his wife were not homeless. Which is why I was trying to understand what the nature of his/their/other family members business was which would have them staying in hotels so often. The second video says that Tatum showered children at the shelter with gifts and money. A neighbor says how Tatum had them fooled thinking he was an executive with the city, he was so well groomed, wore expensive tailored suits. According to his landlord he has a cabin and a trailer in VA. He didn't make that kind of money on a janitor's salary! So clearly he was conducting some kind of business which provided him with the money to afford those things as well as spend money on grooming little girls. JMOO

 

[LaborDayRN]

I did see one person mention something about an eviction early on. However, I did not see proof of an eviction, and especially not proof of an eviction at 2508 N Street SE Apt #3 in DC, which is where the Tatum's lived. That is not an assumption, that's a fact.

In early February the Tatums lived at this address which can be verified by divorce papers filed on February 7, 2014 which listed 2508 N Street SE Apt #3 as an address for both parties. I don't have the video link any longer but I do have that image from the video which was posted via Channel 4 News and will attach it to this post. (FWIW, I thought it was Andrea that filed... it was not. I just realized while digging this image out that Tatum actually filed for divorce from her. Interesting.)

Also, the search warrant for Khalil's apartment was for 2508 N Street SE Apt #3. The vigil for Mrs. Tatum was at this address as well. Here is a video where a reporter speaks with the landlord of that address on N Street (1:09 mark) and it shows the building behind them. http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/loc...lisha-tenau-rudd-abducted-photographs/6837621 and if you scroll down there is another video where the landlord states Tatum was one of the greatest tenants. He doesn't say anything about an eviction or that he was one of the greatest tenants up until he had to evict him.

So yes, I for one am SURE he and his wife were not homeless. Which is why I was trying to understand what the nature of his/their/other family members business was which would have them staying in hotels so often. The second video says that Tatum showered children at the shelter with gifts and money. A neighbor says how Tatum had them fooled thinking he was an executive with the city, he was so well groomed, wore expensive tailored suits. According to his landlord he has a cabin and a trailer in VA. He didn't make that kind of money on a janitor's salary! So clearly he was conducting some kind of business which provided him with the money to afford those things as well as spend money on grooming little girls. JMOO

I sure hope LE know about the cabin and trailer!

 

[TurtlePie]

I sure hope LE know about the cabin and trailer!

I really can't remember where I saw it, but I did read a news article that they were aware of the two places and had checked them out. That's all that was said.