DC DC - Relisha Tenau Rudd, 8, SE DC, 26 Feb 2014 - #3

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  • #381
From the dissolution action filed, it showed KT as the plaintiff and AT as the defendant, meaning he filed against her.

I never heard or read the name of the so-called granddaughter that played with Relisha, which makes me believe the granddaughter did not exist and was used as a ploy.
 
  • #382
My girlfriend surprise visited me today and I missed everything! I can't believe KT killed himself. Guh .. and more importantly, WHERE IS RELISHA????!!!!!!
 
  • #383
Relisha's great-grandmother was at the vigil per fox5 news. No mother and she hasn't been seen at the shelter for 4-5 days per the people at the shelter.

Great!!!! did she beat feet :banghead::banghead::banghead:
 
  • #384
I hear ya. I would rather think Relisha is having fun in Heaven surrounded by love rather than living a life of he77. As I'm sure we all would. Yet I wonder too what and where do we go if she isn't there. He spent too much time in the park for her not to be there right?

It feels horrible hoping Relisha will be found in the park. But the alternatives sound even worse. If only SY had cared about Relisha a little bit, even just enough that she had not given/sold her to KLT!
 
  • #385
Much we don't know but as far as the wife goes she was found face down with gun shot to the back of the head. The key card showed entrances. Tatum and LE. Perhaps the gun was found with him and traced to what he had bought? Some guesses as to the latter.

All true. But I am referring to the fact that LE seemed convinced he was the perp of wife's murder before finding dead Tatum or ostensibly gun by this theory.

Sorry, not trying to be argumentative, just trying to wrap my head around possibly never finding Relisha or knowing for sure if she is dead.

Thank you for letting me vent some heartbreak by jumping off yours. :(
 
  • #386
Has anyone seen an obit for Andrea? If she had a granddaughter she may be listed. Andrea's nephew, the only member of her family to speak publically to a reporter never mentioned one.

I think that finding out if this mystery granddaughter is actually real is very important. It would help in determining exactly what Tatum was into and how long this has been going on. I am having really bad vibes that there may be more than just Relisha who has disappeared.

More in the Parking Lot if you want to discuss, but she posts pics of children on her page that her daughter comments on referring to them as her kids.
 
  • #387
All true. But I am referring to the fact that LE seemed convinced he was the perp of wife's murder before finding dead Tatum or ostensibly gun by this theory.

Sorry, not trying to be argumentative, just trying to wrap my head around possibly never finding Relisha or knowing for sure if she is dead.

Thank you for letting me vent some heartbreak by jumping off yours. :(

No worries. This is another tough one for sure. I know there was an early report of a man helping him purchase a gun. Perhaps it matched to what the wife was killed with? We do know Tatum was in that Hotel room that night. We know he was picked up early morning from hotel. Perhaps LE knows much more? And you are never argumentative :seeya:
 
  • #388
I want to know how long he's been in that shed! Was the shovel and bags and lime in there too. They better figure out real fast if this was really a suicide. Need a really thorough forensic investigation...on his body, the shed, the motel rooms, the vehicles, etc. I hope they have his damn phone.
 
  • #389
It feels horrible hoping Relisha will be found in the park. But the alternatives sound even worse. If only SY had cared about Relisha a little bit, even just enough that she had not given/sold her to KLT!

I want to always believe the human spirit can overcome and excel, and arise victorious from the most horrific of circumstance. Death to me means that possibility is removed.

Yes death means no more suffering. But it also means no overcoming, no victory over victimization. It is sad to me.

I think of Sunny. Deprived of the very sunshine, of food, she ate her own skin, but she lived. She is in loving home, family, for the first time. Every small victory is a miracle.

Death means release. Life means possibility of victory.

Neither do I care for but one I prefer because release is always there. Later.

Thank you for letting me get my mixed up, tangled, confused thoughts on this case out of my system. Because I have been doing a great deal of thinking about the alternatives. That is my biggest fear. That we never know.
 
  • #390
Wonder why we haven't heard about anyone hearing a gunshot? No one in the hotel, no one in the park? Maybe gun shots are normal around there?

In one of the searches, there is several trailers from tractor trailers. The cargo part that they pull. I don't know about the city or whoever owns the park using them, but I have heard that people buy them for storage units, or even convert into a home. Maybe he was found in one of them?

Seems like that park was right in his stomping grounds. I would think he knows the nooks and crannies of it. Wasn't far from his job, housing, etc. With it being so large, I wonder if police are able to regularly patrol it? Or if most is not accessible by vehicle.

Does anyone know where his wife worked?
 
  • #391
I want to always believe the human spirit can overcome and excel, and arise victorious from the most horrific of circumstance. Death to me means that possibility is removed.

Yes death means no more suffering. But it also means no overcoming, no victory over victimization. It is sad to me.

I think of Sunny. Deprived of the very sunshine, of food, she ate her own skin, but she lived. She is in loving home, family, for the first time. Every small victory is a miracle.

Death means release. Life means possibility of victory.

Neither do I care for but one I prefer because release is always there. Later.

Thank you for letting me get my mixed up, tangled, confused thoughts on this case out of my system. Because I have been doing a great deal of thinking about the alternatives. That is my biggest fear. That we never know.

Lovely post :grouphug:
 
  • #392
Direct quote

TY: Last time I talked to my other sister, the one that she's (SY) referring to, it was in like February? I don''t remember if it was before or after Valentine's Day; but I do recall her saying that my niece was over there? So..... right now I can't really tell who's lying and who's not lying; but I do know that as far as her being missing as far as February 26th, that is a lie because I've read that as of February 25th, she already had 5 unexcused absences."

This is an exact quote, as I am DVR'ing this, and pausing it to make sure I got it right. Please note, it's difficult (in the quote) to tell who "she" is, in this statement (SY v. AY!). Also, when she talks, her statements sound like questions, which is why they are written as such. I transcribe a LOT downstairs, so that's just :moo:

:loveyou:
 
  • #393
Wonder why we haven't heard about anyone hearing a gunshot? No one in the hotel, no one in the park? Maybe gun shots are normal around there?

In one of the searches, there is several trailers from tractor trailers. The cargo part that they pull. I don't know about the city or whoever owns the park using them, but I have heard that people buy them for storage units, or even convert into a home. Maybe he was found in one of them?

Seems like that park was right in his stomping grounds. I would think he knows the nooks and crannies of it. Wasn't far from his job, housing, etc. With it being so large, I wonder if police are able to regularly patrol it? Or if most is not accessible by vehicle.

Does anyone know where his wife worked?

BBM I do not know the area. But gunshots ringing out, at night, particularly, in the warmer months, when more people in general are out and about, are not uncommon in my area. I always note the day, time of them though, and watch the paper to figure out if I can connect them to a news story from my neighborhood.
 
  • #394
Nikki Burdine ‏@NikkiBurdine 6m
At 11-Reaction from #RelishaRudd's family as they heard the news about Khalil Tatum's death. Plus more from a walk/vigil for Relisha. @wusa9

NBCWashington ‏@nbcwashington 7m
Body of man wanted in #RelishaRudd disappearance found in DC park. Watch #News4at11 for latest: http://bit.ly/1fIy09B
 
  • #395
Relisha's great-grandmother was at the vigil per fox5 news. No mother and she hasn't been seen at the shelter for 4-5 days per the people at the shelter.

:banghead::banghead: and the reason she hasn't been seen is.....?????
 
  • #396
:banghead::banghead: and the reason she hasn't been seen is.....?????

I think she hasn't been seen cause she's afraid someone(s) will kick her sorry a$$!
 
  • #397
Mom is notably absent. Heartbreaking. So many emotions. But above all

Relisha, princess. You are most important. Where are you baby girl?
 
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I wonder why KLT killed himself at the park? Why didn't he kill himself in the hotel where he killed his wife? I'd like to know why were KLT, his wife and the other people at that hotel in the first place. Another horrible scenario entered my mind. What if Relisha isn't found during the searches? Then what? What would that mean? I do think Relisha will be found in that park, but I've been wondering what will happen if she isn't. I so want her to be alive, but I don't think she is. So many questions that need answers.

I think the park was his stomping ground and he felt comfortable there. Considering he grew up in that neighborhood, he probably knew it well.

As far as Relisha, I've thought about that, too. I'd like to know if the bag/lime was found with him. I doubt it - I'm sure he didn't use it on himself (it would be kind of hard, but possible, I guess). But if so, then there's a greater change that Relisha may still be alive... :o (<---hoping against hope)
 
  • #400
I've actually been away from the internet all dang day, and saw the headlines on my phone just a short while ago. Wish I had more time to hang on the thread right now with you guys - we've been here since Day One. I have to believe that they will find Relisha, one way or the other...

:grouphug:
 
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